Which is the Oldest Indian Language? ...
Facts

Ashburn, VA

#2356 Feb 26, 2014
wisdom tree wrote:
<quoted text>
no i would like to differ , the concept of kumari kandam is that its an extension from kanyakumari to further south meeting madagaskar in the west and possibly indonesia in the east . so sumerians have no llink to this concept of kumari kandam. and talking about the flood in the region of sumerian and indus interactions as kumari kandam well , that is not fair because if u read the rig veda there are so many verses dedicated to the great flood , which hit the indus valley . and its a beleif that mahabharata happened between 900 to 800 bc by many historians and the submergence of dwaraka could be related to another flood happening in that time peiod. sumerians u have to understand spoke a language which is much older than proto dravidian because their civilization is closest to africa theirs is the oldest language atleast closest to the oldest language. there is a language before proto dravidian . may be can find a link between that language and the sumerian language . but proto dravidian is itself a new language compared to what the sumerians spoke and tamil is a derivative of that proto dravidian language so just see how far languages are from the mother language . similarly we can find a link between indo iranian and sumerian languages too . dravidians are from the same tribe of sumerians infact could be a section who parted from the sumerians just like how so many other tribes parted , but calling dravidians as sumerians is very hypothetical in my view .
ramayana and mahabharatha might related to indus valley civilizations of harappa and mohenjodaro,dwaraka was also may related to this
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2357 Feb 26, 2014
CIVAN wrote:
<quoted text>
Naveen Fool,
you have accepted now ashmaka language was prakrit it is native kingdom of andhras . but This kingdom not belong Telugu People .
Fool....Histroy never change....truth CERA , CHOZHAN & PANDIYAN are Tamil King.That why iam repeating same.
North India - Only part UP,Delhi , Panjap & Kashmir
East India -?
Weat India-?..etc
Andhras name itself - on telugu word..Telugu language (mixed of Sanskrit , Prakrit )
may be our language was telugu or other,but we have the identity in vedas and puranas that ashmaka belong to andhra kings,but no tamil tribes r mentioned in vedas r puranas
CIVAN

Dubai, UAE

#2358 Feb 26, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> from ur statement sanskrit words are;puranam,shakthi,dheeram,su ndhar,manikya,mandhiram,sthala m, etc... Sangam a word also did not used anywhere in the sangam literature fool...
FYI ,

Naveen Fool ,

How U Know Sangam word not in sangam Literature . U r did Tamil Literature M.A dgree.U fool u do not know tamil A,B,C D.

Sanskrit is not a indian language . Sanskrit Origin in Now IRAN.Sanskrit no native script
. How all word come from sankrit ..Please Clarify .. Ur Fool & MAD.

Only One Classical Language in INDIA is Tamil. All other language does not have 2000 years before any Liturature .

In india other Classical Language like Kanada,Telugu & Malayalam language have sanskrit word & Grammar .Other language not a classical Language .

To qualify as a classical Language :-

University of California, Berkeley, holds a ‘Tamil’ Conference annually. Its Chair in Tamil Studies, Prof. George L. Hart, writes,“To qualify as a classical tradition, a language must fit several criteria: it should be ancient, it should be an independent tradition that arose mostly on its own and not as an offshoot of another tradition, and it must have a large and extremely rich body of ancient literature. Unlike the other modern languages of India, Tamil meets each of these requirements. It is extremely old (as old as Latin and older than Arabic); it arose as an entirely independent tradition, with almost no influence from Sanskrit or other languages; and its ancient literature is indescribably vast and rich.”
wisdom tree

New Delhi, India

#2359 Feb 26, 2014
Facts wrote:
<quoted text> ramayana and mahabharatha might related to indus valley civilizations of harappa and mohenjodaro,dwaraka was also may related to this
i donot know about ramayana but mahabharata is definetly true and is definetly in the region of indus valley but the indus valley civilization is much older than mahabharata
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2360 Feb 26, 2014
CIVAN wrote:
<quoted text>
FYI ,
Naveen Fool ,
How U Know Sangam word not in sangam Literature . U r did Tamil Literature M.A dgree.U fool u do not know tamil A,B,C D.
Sanskrit is not a indian language . Sanskrit Origin in Now IRAN.Sanskrit no native script
. How all word come from sankrit ..Please Clarify .. Ur Fool & MAD.
Only One Classical Language in INDIA is Tamil. All other language does not have 2000 years before any Liturature .
In india other Classical Language like Kanada,Telugu & Malayalam language have sanskrit word & Grammar .Other language not a classical Language .
To qualify as a classical Language :-
University of California, Berkeley, holds a ‘Tamil’ Conference annually. Its Chair in Tamil Studies, Prof. George L. Hart, writes,“To qualify as a classical tradition, a language must fit several criteria: it should be ancient, it should be an independent tradition that arose mostly on its own and not as an offshoot of another tradition, and it must have a large and extremely rich body of ancient literature. Unlike the other modern languages of India, Tamil meets each of these requirements. It is extremely old (as old as Latin and older than Arabic); it arose as an entirely independent tradition, with almost no influence from Sanskrit or other languages; and its ancient literature is indescribably vast and rich.”
fool r u mad r what,cant u read my statements,i had picked up sanskrit words from ur tamil literature statements,sanskrit was pure indian language if u not agree to it show the similiarity between sanskrit and other languages what ur shouting about,this theory was debunked by most of the wise scholars around the world
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2361 Feb 26, 2014
CIVAN wrote:
<quoted text>
FYI ,
Naveen Fool ,
How U Know Sangam word not in sangam Literature . U r did Tamil Literature M.A dgree.U fool u do not know tamil A,B,C D.
Sanskrit is not a indian language . Sanskrit Origin in Now IRAN.Sanskrit no native script
. How all word come from sankrit ..Please Clarify .. Ur Fool & MAD.
Only One Classical Language in INDIA is Tamil. All other language does not have 2000 years before any Liturature .
In india other Classical Language like Kanada,Telugu & Malayalam language have sanskrit word & Grammar .Other language not a classical Language .
To qualify as a classical Language :-
University of California, Berkeley, holds a ‘Tamil’ Conference annually. Its Chair in Tamil Studies, Prof. George L. Hart, writes,“To qualify as a classical tradition, a language must fit several criteria: it should be ancient, it should be an independent tradition that arose mostly on its own and not as an offshoot of another tradition, and it must have a large and extremely rich body of ancient literature. Unlike the other modern languages of India, Tamil meets each of these requirements. It is extremely old (as old as Latin and older than Arabic); it arose as an entirely independent tradition, with almost no influence from Sanskrit or other languages; and its ancient literature is indescribably vast and rich.”
fool u r always shouting tamil tamil tamil,does tamilnadu has any own history,ancient tamilnadu was formed by pandyas,chola,chera r north and north west indians,pallavas are andhras,medieval kingdoms mid cholas,nayaks,thondaman are telugu origins,where r tamils here?agastya a north indian,ancient jains in tn r north indians and u shouting tamil is older than world fool...
CIVAN

Dubai, UAE

#2362 Feb 26, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> may be our language was telugu or other,but we have the identity in vedas and puranas that ashmaka belong to andhra kings,but no tamil tribes r mentioned in vedas r puranas
FYI,

I am once repeat it again

Purana & two great Sanskrit epics.....are Moral Stories & religious texts. It is not Real....Stories

OK ..In ur puranas why not meantion other country (USA,CANADA.AFRICA,CHINA & KSA, etc.....) All are Epic . Rama & Khrishna color is BLACk . Not a Ariyan Color .So FACT is Real Indian are Tamil People .

& It is not belong to Telugu People .

Some Time u written Telugu is oldest language in india & Some Time u written Sanskrit is Dead Language .

EVERY TIME u written NORTH INDIA . ANCIENT TIME TAMIL LANGUAGE ONLY SPOKEN IN ALL OVER INDIA .Indus valley civilization Belong to Tamil civilization .

That is reason why u mation here every time north india people are TAMIL.

Finaly,

1.TELUGU LANGUAGE AD & TAMIL LANGUAGE BC
2. TELUGU GRAMMAR COPY CAT FORM OTHER LANGUAGE .
3.TELUGU LITERATURE COPY CAT FROM OTHE LANGUAGE etc

This if FACt....fact
Telugu

Bangalore, India

#2363 Feb 26, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> fool u r always shouting tamil tamil tamil,does tamilnadu has any own history,ancient tamilnadu was formed by pandyas,chola,chera r north and north west indians,pallavas are andhras,medieval kingdoms mid cholas,nayaks,thondaman are telugu origins,where r tamils here?agastya a north indian,ancient jains in tn r north indians and u shouting tamil is older than world fool...
Telugu is older than Tamil .Leader of Tamils Periyar E. V. Ramasamy was Telugu by Origin
CIVAN

Dubai, UAE

#2364 Feb 26, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> fool r u mad r what,cant u read my statements,i had picked up sanskrit words from ur tamil literature statements,sanskrit was pure indian language if u not agree to it show the similiarity between sanskrit and other languages what ur shouting about,this theory was debunked by most of the wise scholars around the world
Naveen Fool,

FYI

Tamil literature having the most ancient non-Sanskritized Indian literature, Naveen Kaliveli.

Tamil literature is unique and thus has become the subject of study by scholars who wish to delineate the non-Aryan and pre-Aryan strands in Indian culture.

Tamil literature has a rich and long literary tradition spanning more than 2500 years. Tolkaappiyam has been credited as the oldest work in Tamil available today. The history of Tamil literature follows the history of Tamil Nadu, closely following the social and political trends of various periods. The secular nature of the early Sangam poetry gave way to works of religious and didactic nature during the Middle Ages. Tirukkural is a fine example of such work on human behaviour and political morals. A wave of religious revival helped generate a great volume of literary output by Saivite and Vaishnavite authors.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2365 Feb 26, 2014
CIVAN wrote:
<quoted text>
FYI,
I am once repeat it again
Purana & two great Sanskrit epics.....are Moral Stories & religious texts. It is not Real....Stories
OK ..In ur puranas why not meantion other country (USA,CANADA.AFRICA,CHINA & KSA, etc.....) All are Epic . Rama & Khrishna color is BLACk . Not a Ariyan Color .So FACT is Real Indian are Tamil People .
& It is not belong to Telugu People .
Some Time u written Telugu is oldest language in india & Some Time u written Sanskrit is Dead Language .
EVERY TIME u written NORTH INDIA . ANCIENT TIME TAMIL LANGUAGE ONLY SPOKEN IN ALL OVER INDIA .Indus valley civilization Belong to Tamil civilization .
That is reason why u mation here every time north india people are TAMIL.
Finaly,
1.TELUGU LANGUAGE AD & TAMIL LANGUAGE BC
2. TELUGU GRAMMAR COPY CAT FORM OTHER LANGUAGE .
3.TELUGU LITERATURE COPY CAT FROM OTHE LANGUAGE etc
This if FACt....fact
andhra is the ancient tribe and ancestors of south india,produced number of intelligent and talented people to the world,tamils,keralas,kannadiga s,copied the culture and traditions from andhras
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2366 Feb 26, 2014
CIVAN wrote:
<quoted text>
FYI,
I am once repeat it again
Purana & two great Sanskrit epics.....are Moral Stories & religious texts. It is not Real....Stories
OK ..In ur puranas why not meantion other country (USA,CANADA.AFRICA,CHINA & KSA, etc.....) All are Epic . Rama & Khrishna color is BLACk . Not a Ariyan Color .So FACT is Real Indian are Tamil People .
& It is not belong to Telugu People .
Some Time u written Telugu is oldest language in india & Some Time u written Sanskrit is Dead Language .
EVERY TIME u written NORTH INDIA . ANCIENT TIME TAMIL LANGUAGE ONLY SPOKEN IN ALL OVER INDIA .Indus valley civilization Belong to Tamil civilization .
That is reason why u mation here every time north india people are TAMIL.
Finaly,
1.TELUGU LANGUAGE AD & TAMIL LANGUAGE BC
2. TELUGU GRAMMAR COPY CAT FORM OTHER LANGUAGE .
3.TELUGU LITERATURE COPY CAT FROM OTHE LANGUAGE etc
This if FACt....fact
mad fool..... Adamant moron cant accept the facts
CIVAN

Dubai, UAE

#2367 Feb 26, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> fool u r always shouting tamil tamil tamil,does tamilnadu has any own history,ancient tamilnadu was formed by pandyas,chola,chera r north and north west indians,pallavas are andhras,medieval kingdoms mid cholas,nayaks,thondaman are telugu origins,where r tamils here?agastya a north indian,ancient jains in tn r north indians and u shouting tamil is older than world fool...
MR.N .....fOOL.

1. Cera , Chozha & Pandiyan are Three Tamil King . This basic u do not Know ....Telugu naveen fool I ask ?

Ans Me

1.Tamil Literature 3BC Vs Telugu literature 1100 AD copy cat Sanskrit

2.Tamil Grammar Vs Telugu Grammer 1000 AD copy cat Sanskrit

3. Tamil king Vs Anthara King ( Basicaly Local Language Parkrit & Sanskrit ) Not a Telugu Kings. etc

Only One Indian Tamil Language have classical past 2000 year before . All hindi , Marati , Telugu , Gujarati , Bengali 1100 AD olny have record .Compare Tamil (Mother ) Language all other Language are Childrens )
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2368 Feb 26, 2014
CIVAN wrote:
<quoted text>
MR.N .....fOOL.
1. Cera , Chozha & Pandiyan are Three Tamil King . This basic u do not Know ....Telugu naveen fool I ask ?
Ans Me
1.Tamil Literature 3BC Vs Telugu literature 1100 AD copy cat Sanskrit
2.Tamil Grammar Vs Telugu Grammer 1000 AD copy cat Sanskrit
3. Tamil king Vs Anthara King ( Basicaly Local Language Parkrit & Sanskrit ) Not a Telugu Kings. etc
Only One Indian Tamil Language have classical past 2000 year before . All hindi , Marati , Telugu , Gujarati , Bengali 1100 AD olny have record .Compare Tamil (Mother ) Language all other Language are Childrens )
dont tell the history formed by north indians,andhras r oldest peoples in india,tamils r nowhere in vedas r puranas genes created by north indians and andhras fools
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2369 Feb 26, 2014
CIVAN wrote:
<quoted text>
MR.N .....fOOL.
1. Cera , Chozha & Pandiyan are Three Tamil King . This basic u do not Know ....Telugu naveen fool I ask ?
Ans Me
1.Tamil Literature 3BC Vs Telugu literature 1100 AD copy cat Sanskrit
2.Tamil Grammar Vs Telugu Grammer 1000 AD copy cat Sanskrit
3. Tamil king Vs Anthara King ( Basicaly Local Language Parkrit & Sanskrit ) Not a Telugu Kings. etc
Only One Indian Tamil Language have classical past 2000 year before . All hindi , Marati , Telugu , Gujarati , Bengali 1100 AD olny have record .Compare Tamil (Mother ) Language all other Language are Childrens )
andhras also traced to harappa culture,not originless tamils
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2370 Feb 26, 2014
Tamil grammer composed from 100 b.c. To 400 a.d,as tamil script was developed quicker than other scripts of south indian languages,poets from tamil,karnata,keralas contributed for tamil literature,jains from north also written tamil grammer,tamil grammer is a copied version of sanskrit.most of the sanskrit words are found in tamil but tamil fools changed the sounds of sanskrit words for ex;place means sthal in sanskrit,they changed to sthaalam,puranam to puram,etc....they modified the sanskrit words in tamil to 80% different to sanskrit. Early tamil inscriptions r introduced by ashoka at 250 b.c. Which r modified from bhattiprolu telugu inscriptions old as 400 b.c.,ashoka introduced same script to tamils,they changed the structure of script to early tamil,telugu script in more than 10 kingdoms was similiar from 400 b.c. To 500 a.d. Later the script changed its structure and formed as medieval telugu script. May be telugu literature was not old,but the language was older than tamil,most of the telugu words also found in tamil language,andhras/telugus are the ancient tribe and ancestors of south indians,tamilnadu kingdoms started from b.c. 500 that too created by north indians.
tamil

Chennai, India

#2371 Feb 26, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> neandarthals are bigbrained and intelligent human species,somebody said that ancient indians are neandarthals and genius
bigheaded, doest mean they are intelligent, their orgin is europe serbia particular, maybe you are an neadarthals, thats why you think you are genius, reality you are a big headed fool, and people are laughing at you,
tamil

Chennai, India

#2372 Feb 26, 2014
wisdom tree wrote:
<quoted text>
no i would like to differ , the concept of kumari kandam is that its an extension from kanyakumari to further south meeting madagaskar in the west and possibly indonesia in the east . so sumerians have no llink to this concept of kumari kandam. and talking about the flood in the region of sumerian and indus interactions as kumari kandam well , that is not fair because if u read the rig veda there are so many verses dedicated to the great flood , which hit the indus valley . and its a beleif that mahabharata happened between 900 to 800 bc by many historians and the submergence of dwaraka could be related to another flood happening in that time peiod. sumerians u have to understand spoke a language which is much older than proto dravidian because their civilization is closest to africa theirs is the oldest language atleast closest to the oldest language. there is a language before proto dravidian . may be can find a link between that language and the sumerian language . but proto dravidian is itself a new language compared to what the sumerians spoke and tamil is a derivative of that proto dravidian language so just see how far languages are from the mother language . similarly we can find a link between indo iranian and sumerian languages too . dravidians are from the same tribe of sumerians infact could be a section who parted from the sumerians just like how so many other tribes parted , but calling dravidians as sumerians is very hypothetical in my view .
dravidian langauge still widely spoken by some african tribes and recent DNA in south india claims a entire village carries same DNA of first human migration from africa, they preserved the Dna through inter family marriages,, this could prove either dravidians are summerians who migrated south or they could be migrated south from main stream migration
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2373 Feb 26, 2014
tamil wrote:
<quoted text>bigheaded, doest mean they are intelligent, their orgin is europe serbia particular, maybe you are an neadarthals, thats why you think you are genius, reality you are a big headed fool, and people are laughing at you,
iam didn't said bigheaded means intelligent,i just read in some link about neanderthals as genius species and i dont care about the matters of neanderthals r homo saphiens
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2374 Feb 26, 2014
tamil wrote:
<quoted text>dravidian langauge still widely spoken by some african tribes and recent DNA in south india claims a entire village carries same DNA of first human migration from africa, they preserved the Dna through inter family marriages,, this could prove either dravidians are summerians who migrated south or they could be migrated south from main stream migration
how can anybody says that humans migrated only from africa?what is the proof?is there are no any chances of human origin in everypart of world like other living creatures?why?
wisdom tree

New Delhi, India

#2375 Feb 26, 2014
tamil wrote:
<quoted text>dravidian langauge still widely spoken by some african tribes and recent DNA in south india claims a entire village carries same DNA of first human migration from africa, they preserved the Dna through inter family marriages,, this could prove either dravidians are summerians who migrated south or they could be migrated south from main stream migration
Yes they have found that village but it shows that they are the first humans to enter India from the migration they found this DNA in almost all the civilizations around the world where ever migrating humans settled like Iran China south America etc that's how it is genetically confirmed that we are all from Africa now just like how Ur claiming Dravidian have same DNA as them so only Dravidian were first humans all the other tribes can claim the same because they also have the same DNA Dravidian DNA was the last discovered very recently but other tribes DNA matching with the early humans have been found much before the Dravidian DNA discovery . Marrying within the family is not found only in south India Tamil its found all around world in tribal communities . The Hindus in some castes follow the Gothra system for marriage it's were certain gothra people cannot marry in certain gothra this is intact a codified way of marrying your first cousins for example khaps in haryana.

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