Proof Jesus never existed

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#39 Aug 24, 2009
Rowan wrote:
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Stop spreading your hate for so called unbelievers. You are not a good person because you believe a myth. You are a victim.
There are unbelievers, and there are unbelievers also. The Gospel is not a message of hatred.
Truly, even among Christians there is confusion!
There is a difference between, being saved, not being save, and being condemned. Would God really condemn one who has never even come to hear of Christ? What if this one is a poor starving child who suffers through others greed even?
Come the end you will see. And others will see also. The day of judgement will not be in Heaven, but will be here on Earth. For a person cannot enter heaven unless they are born of body, soul and spirit. Christ himself is the judge.
Some are Christian in name only - and miserable comforters they are also - they do not know God as well as they think!
God is of mercy, compassion and understanding - God knows the heart.

God is Love.
Rowan

Netherlands

#40 Aug 24, 2009
why wrote:
Why do those cristains tell so many lies?
Because a lie must be maintained. Truth not. Truth will always emerge. That is why onc you start to lie you will need to keep on lying to cover your old lies.

The worst lying is the lying that people do to themselves. The ones that shout: "Jesus is real" do this because they have deep doubt they must silence by shouting. They lie to themselves.

And if you continue this lie half you life, it becomes even more desperate to cling on to this lie. That is why they go on.

But they do not need to. They can simply be free by letting go of the lie. They can simply drop the fear and be free. They are not evil, they have only been programmed to believe so.

The rich will always make the poor believe they are evil. That is what a slavesociety does. That is what the Romans did.

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#42 Aug 24, 2009
Rowan wrote:
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Because a lie must be maintained. Truth not. Truth will always emerge. That is why onc you start to lie you will need to keep on lying to cover your old lies.
The worst lying is the lying that people do to themselves. The ones that shout: "Jesus is real" do this because they have deep doubt they must silence by shouting. They lie to themselves.
And if you continue this lie half you life, it becomes even more desperate to cling on to this lie. That is why they go on.
But they do not need to. They can simply be free by letting go of the lie. They can simply drop the fear and be free. They are not evil, they have only been programmed to believe so.
The rich will always make the poor believe they are evil. That is what a slavesociety does. That is what the Romans did.
That is what you have been given to think. Things are not quite what you think.
I have said already the Jewish influence went beyond their borders, causing new religions to be born. The Stoic religion, and others, had it's influence from the Jewish prophets! But only the Jewish Messiah was born.
If the gospel were not true, it would not have stood. Easier would it have been to follow emperor as god. The Romans put out many lies and tried to wipe Christianity out. Rome collapsed.
There is much you do not understand. I do not condemn you, for I am not to judge you - you just do not understand.
Look closer into how history emerged and came to pass. Not just New Testament history, but Old Testament history also, and how the Jews came into contact with other lands, and how influence spread. The truth will unravel. It is still there.

God is Love.
Rowan

Netherlands

#43 Aug 24, 2009
scambuster wrote:
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Good point. If christianity is as fake as he says it is, then it will die out on it's own (which it is, slowly).
Christianity will nor die out. But maybe we can civilize it. Now chrisitianity is a not a civilizing force. In fact it is the perfect excuse for being uncivilized. The Romans are called civilized because they were great architects, lawgivers, organizers, created beatifull art.

But at heart the Romans were all but civilized. It was only the outside that was impressive. We see the same in a country like the USA. It boasts how great it is, it calls itself the greates nation on earth. It sees itself as chosen by God. Even all the aliens land there.

There is no denying it is a remarkable country, Its techonology and science, its skyscrapers, its display of power are impressive. But are the Americans truly civilized? Then why are they in war every generation? Why to spread pictures of hate and violence over the world. Why is there so much crime. Why can't they live without a weapon?

The US is not a civilized country and Christian culture is at the heart of this. The US is new empire. The US is present successor of old Rome. And it thinks like Rome. It has the same ideology as Rome. This ideology drives the empire, but does it really make the americans a happy people? I don't think so.

All these dreams of greatness and belief they do Gods will, changes nothing from the fact that they go to countries and shoot it to pieces, not to serve a higher ideal, but to make big money for very uggly people. All in the name of Jesus, because if you do it in the name of JEsus it is good. And if you feel bad you simply ask forgiveness. That is what the empire needs do horrible things.

Do evil, ask forgiveness
Do evil, ask forgiveness
Do evil, ask forgiveness

This ideology was deviced by the Romans to perpetuate evil. No army can do without it. The soldiers in Iraq are praying every day.

Today mylord, I shoot this little girl. She stormed out of the house and in an instance I shot her face to pieces. It was horrible my lord. The mother came out an started to cry and shout insults. I really feel bad, mylord, please forgive me. I only wanted to serve my country and defend the cristian culture against these barbarians that denounce you. But still I feel guilty, pleasse forgive me mylord

Yes Americans believe they can defend their civilisation 4000km from home. Why? Because like the romans it is their duty to bring Christianity all over the world. Yes they have this duty to save people and if in the proces the people get hurt that is the will of God.

This is an imperialist ideology. It has nothting to do with the divine. It was developed to serve the Roman empire.

It has nothing to do wiht the Divine
I see Stupid People

Baltimore, MD

#47 Aug 24, 2009
Rowan wrote:
New historical finds now prove what many have previously suspected.
Your a nutcase - see help

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#50 Aug 24, 2009
Rowan wrote:
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You have to understand that the church have been writing the history books for almost two thounsand years.

....editted due to length...

I am not going to convince you, neither do I desire to. But there are people who are truly seeking the truth, people that are not afraid to think outside the box. People that have questions like I had when I was young. People that have pure hearts and feel that something is wrong.
To those people I reach out.
It is not just the church that has been writing history...Those outside of the church have been writing history too.

You want people to know the truth...Well that is a good thing! But in order to teach the truth, you need to know the truth first in order to teach it.
And unfortunately you do not know the truth, but only a confusion about the truth.

Things are not as you think....Nor are they as many Christians seem to think...You have not understood what I have told you. And even some Christians will fail to understand what I have said!
And it is that Rowan, that you are finding.

Truly, God is more merciful than many believe, and that includes many who are Christians. Many make like John the baptist...but we were told to be like Christ!
And that Rowen is what you seek to prevent, though you do not realise it.
Look again at Christ.
He is more alive than you think!

God is Love.

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#52 Aug 24, 2009
Wattamoozy wrote:
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Did you know that you've been dying slowly since the moment you've been conceived ? How do you like dying so far ?
<;o)
I love it. Cell division is a wondrous thing isn't it?

Best regards.

“Keeping my fingers crossed ...”

Since: Aug 07

Life's enduring gifts

#56 Aug 24, 2009
Rowan wrote:
New historical finds now prove what many have previously suspected. Jesus never existed. The proof is overwhelming.
For christians this is a must read. Especially if you are young, read this carefully before you let yourself be entangled in a life long belief that is mainly based on lies.
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
Prove that he did exist.

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#57 Aug 24, 2009
Rowan wrote:
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Well education was in the hands of the church.
What Church?
I see Stupid People

Baltimore, MD

#58 Aug 24, 2009
Well written web page.

But, It is noting but B.S. There is no proof here. Just another bunch of wacko's trying to push thier stupidity.

Still Rowan - seek help. You are a nutcase.
Rowan

Netherlands

#59 Aug 24, 2009
A Son Of God wrote:
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What Church?
for a thousand years there was only one church, the Roman church.

But as you may know the Romans were in the end defeated by the Germans. The Germans were a very fierce and equally warlike people as the Romans. Though they were not empire builders yet, they equally loved war. The Romans tried to conquer them but lost horribly. So they decided it was better to let the Rhine be the border of the empire and defend this. The Romans still send their missionaries to undermine the Germans, but the Germans attacked them and demanded they stopped sending their missionaries. The Roman did but in the end the German kept on invading and overflowed the empire. You may wonder what this has to do with your question?

Well after the fall of the Roman empire the church was the only Roman institution to survive and there was still a great admiration for the Roman empire. The Church were able to come to terms with the German kings and a new German Roman empire rose. In fact many people in Europe till the 14 century still believed they lived in the Roman empire.

The church was able to Christen the Germans by taken over many of their customs had they had done with other cults before. But there always remained a strained relation between the German people and the Church. The church was a hierarchical Roman power structure, but the Germans knew no hierarchy. Their society had never developed such power structure, they were used to have one chief, and they did not al all like it.

That is why in the 14 century the German people rose up to the church. You may believe that Protestantism is all about a better interpretation of the bible and the corruption of the church, but it was more about power as always. The split between Catholics and Protestants is along the very lines of the split between Romans and Germans.

In fact if you will ever visit my small country, the Netherlands you may learn that the people below the Rhine are catholic and above are mainly protestant.

In Islam something similar happened when the Persian people who had a much greater history split themselves of from Islam. Here it was the other way round. The Arabs were the wild men without hierarchical structure, and the Persian the ones with it. That is why the Shia Islam looks much like Catholicism and is centrally governed.

But you will never read this in the books because they make it all into something religious to fool the people. They do not call them flock for nothing. The are cattle that have to be driven the right direction, like you drive any herd.("Don't try to understand them, just ride them up, and brand them, Rawhide!")

What I want to show you is that organised religion is all about power. It has nothing to do with spirituality or God. It has to do with power structures to rule over people. You do not rule over people by their body but by their mind. Only if you teach them the same ideas, they start feeling as a nation. Only then will they fight as a nation. To get people to have the same ideas you need something that is the same for everybody, you need a book.

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#61 Aug 24, 2009
Dutch Slutes wrote:
<quoted text> Do not be fooled by Dutch Sodomites. You can cover a Turd with Sugar, but no matter how you slice it, it is still shhhiiit. And Dutch boy here is still mad, because of his Tiny-ting Peenis. That is why German men, help procreate, Dutch tramps.What do you call a Dutch Virgin? A real Ugly 6 year old........
Your post is sickening.

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#63 Aug 24, 2009
Rowan wrote:
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for a thousand years there was only one church, the Roman church.
That isn't entirely true. However, if education came through the church, then how was it that it came to be understood that the earth isn't flat?
Though i'ts true to say such teaching was considered a heresy!

You seem to have some obsession that the Roman Empire was responsible for everything. And that isn't correct. You have a confusion about the Roman Empire, The Roman Catholic Church and Christianity. and as a result teach in error.
I see Stupid People

Baltimore, MD

#65 Aug 24, 2009
Rowan wrote:
These people can invent as many books as they want, and they can put any idea in it they like,...
Or put up a webpage that has noting.

You are still a nutcase. seek help
I see Stupid People

Baltimore, MD

#66 Aug 24, 2009
Greek Spartan wrote:
<quoted text>"Rowan, take your Medication
"It" went off the meds long ago... Too late to help

Since: Aug 09

Pacific, MO

#68 Aug 24, 2009
Will Man ever stop wasting his entire life believing in supernaturals?Will this world ever turn rational?Look around,see the 'bloody'mess that religions have blessed this earth with!

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#69 Aug 24, 2009
Rowan wrote:
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Don't let it scare you,
Why should it scare me. I know history more than you do. You think with confusion. Who put that confusion there?

God is real, and so is the other fellow, and how the other fellow is well pleased with you.
You gamble that what you only think is the truth.
When all you have is a distortion of history.

Jesus was spoken of by the Prophets of God before Him. Christ came. So too were prophesied the events that were to follow. They followed. So too are prophesied the events that are to follow. They will follow.

God is Love.

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#70 Aug 24, 2009
netster wrote:
Will Man ever stop wasting his entire life believing in supernaturals?Will this world ever turn rational?Look around,see the 'bloody'mess that religions have blessed this earth with!
Well said.
Rose

Panorama City, CA

#71 Aug 24, 2009
Sunshine wrote:
May God have Mercy on your Souls!!! When you are in front of our lord on judgement day, lets see and hear what you beg for.....
A god who torments everybody who doesn't happen to guess the right religion for all time is not worthy of worship. On judgment day, I'd tell him to kiss my big black rear!:*(_!_)
Rose

Panorama City, CA

#72 Aug 24, 2009
Absurdity
Injustice
Cruelty and Violence
Intolerance and
Contradictions from the Bible

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/
http://www.evilbible.com

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