Should Black People in the USA Leave ...
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#186 Jun 1, 2013
dkanela ---- You said "Johnny I personally believe we are witnessing history in relation to Africa".---

Mind if I ask, in what way?

What do you mean?

Could you please elaborate about your statement above.

You said "the time is almost perfect for the continent to unite".----

This could be.

But, will this happen?--- I don't see it.

I say this, because of all of the many, many obstacles involved.

If Africa would become one nation, since this would be a major, big time threat to Western banking & business interests.---- The West would do everything in their power to prevent this.

Even if Africa would become one nation.---- Immediately after this would happen, the West would be undertaking many actions. Against this.

To sabotage & break up this unification.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#187 Jun 1, 2013
dkanela ---- You said "This is what I assume will happen: as the US gets more involved in the Middle East and Asia, the US will not have the money to continue bribing many of these so called African leaders".----

With all due respect, I don't see this at all.

Granted, from September, 2008 till now.--- The Western nations have experienced economic hardships.

But, certain sectors within these Western nations have undergone hardships.

At the same time, many, many other people have turned immense profits. Immense profits in the forms of money, land & buildings.

When it comes to the Wests foreign relations.---- Especially as it pertains to black, Sub-Saharan Africa.---- The West WILL have money & other resources.

To protect their black African Allies throughout the continent of Africa.

To protect their banking & business interests throughout Africa.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#188 Jun 1, 2013
dkanela ---- You said "With almost certainty the dollar will collapse".---- I don't see this.

I state this, because from September, 2008 till October, 2010.---- There have been many times where political pundits on the left wing (Primarily on the far left wing) have predicted that the dollar would collapse.

It didn't.

In years to come, I don't see much changing. Which would affect the dollar or other currency.

You said "soon after the World will witness it's third world war".----

Really?

What type of war do you think will break out?

A nuclear war?

If a nuclear war, which nations will be warring in this nuclear war?

Or, do you think that a massive conventional war will break out?

If so, which nations will be engaged in this conventional war?

Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#189 Jun 1, 2013
dkanela ---- You said "It will become the interest of Africa to unite".--- Not sure.

This is why I state this.----- If a world war would break out, entailing nations utilizing conventional type weapons, the nations on the continent of Africa won't be a part of this war.

If a world war would break out, which featured nations employing nuclear weapons, the nations of Africa wouldn't be a part of this war.

You said "because of the uncertainty of the world after the war".---- True, there would be a degree of uncertainty among many foreign governments.

But, could the African nations go at it alone?

By this question, I'm referring to African nations unifying & making a successful go at it themselves?

Do the African nations have the know how to "unify" their nations. To do it successfully? To integrate their economies?

With this unification of their nations & integration of their economies.---- Will they be able to govern & rule efficiently & effectively?

Especially in the wake of the West doing everything in their power to sabotage & break up this unfication.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#190 Jun 1, 2013
dkanela ---- You said "I believe this is the time when mass numbers of African Americans and other diasporians will depart for Africa".----

I don't see this.

The poster "kas" typed up many points about all of the obstacles of African Americans migrating to Africa.

What the poster kas stated in his previous post.----- I'm in total agreement with what he said. Every one of his points. Which showcased ALL of the many obstacles & roadblocks to African Americans emigrating back to Africa.

kas' post,#73.----

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TFF39M2... .
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#191 Jun 1, 2013
dkanela ---- You said "I don't see Africa playing a large role in the great war".---- If a world war would break out, featuring nations utilizing conventional war type weapons.---- No, Africa wouldn't play a large role at all.

In all likelyhood though, many black African factions would attack their rivals in Africa.

If a world war would break out, featuring nations employing nuclear weapons.--- No, Africa wouldn't play a role in regards to nuclear war.

Since African nations don't have nuclear weapons.

South Africa used to have nuclear weapons. But, South Africas nuclear weapons were all disabled. Right before South Africa had their elections back in 1994.

You said "so by uniting she stands to benefit".---
Not sure.

I state this, because of all of the problems associated. With Africa becoming one nation.

Who would lead this Africa?

The leader (Or leaders) of this Africa, could they effectively govern Africa?

By effectively governing, in relation to dealing with the African nations economic troubles?

By effectively governing, in regards to dealing with the African nations shortages throughout their domestic infrastructures.

Most of all, could the leader (Or leaders) of this Africa effectively hold off the West?

Could the leader (Or leaders) of this Africa effectively stave off the Wests attempts at sabotaging this African nation?

Because if Africa would become one nation.---- Since this would be a major, big time threat to Western banking & business interests.-----

The West will be doing MANY measures. To sabotage & break up this African nation.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#192 Jun 1, 2013
dkanela ---- You said "There are several other scenarios I could possibly see playing out".---

Really?

Such as what?

Could you please elaborate & expound upon these other scenarios which you could possibly see happening?

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#193 Jun 1, 2013
I personally think everybody should just go back to where they are originally from and stick to their own societies. That would mean black people going back to Africa and White people in America going back to Europe. Giving the land back to the native Americans who are the only people who should truly be allowed to call themselves American. Multiculturalism has taught me many things but it defiantly doesn't work. Juggling so many issues under one roof causes a lot of tension.

I personally dream of a place where i can be proud of my country and know my neighbors and culture without having to compromise every time the next ship load of immigrants come.
KIMBERLIE BANKS

Lucerne Valley, CA

#194 Jun 13, 2013
I AGREE BLACK PEOPLE HAVE HAD NOTHING IN THIS COUNTRY TO CALL THIER OWN . WHITE SUPREMACY HAS MADE SURE THAT BLACKS STAY POOR AND WITHOUT WEALTH. GADAFFI WAS JUST PLANNING TO HELP BLACK PEOPLE DO JUST THAT BEFORE THEY SHOT HIM DEAD. OUR RISE IS THIER FALL BECAUSE EVERYTIME WE START TO IMPROVE IN ANYWAY HERE COMES DEVIL CHILDREN TO STOP IT . THE BLACK PANTHER PARTY IS A PRIME EXAMPLE IT STARTED IN OAKLAND, CA AND HAD CHAPTERS WORLDWIDE WHITEY DIDNT WANT TO SEE BLACKS AND OR PEOPLE OF COLOR ADVANCE SO THE OPERATION WAS DEMOLISHED IN MANY WAYS. YES YOUVE GUESSED IT I DISPISE WHITE PEOPLE I DONT TRUST YOU AND YOU MEAN BLACK PEOPLE NO GOOD. IM ALL FOR LEAVING THIS EVIL COUNTRY AND ESTABLISHING OUR OWN SOMEPLACE ELSE. WHITEY LEAVE US ALONE !
JLZ

United States

#195 Jul 1, 2013
First Thing, Africa is european name, the correct name is Alkebulan.
We Black people Should form our own nation in the continental US territory. We have a long history of this idea of a Homeland Here which is actually older than intergration or even returning to Alkebulan. We have a History of puresing our Homeland of over 300 years.
This History of our Homeland has been repressed by America.
Learn about your own history, you will have a clear understanding as to where we are in terms of formalizing our Country.

Since: Jul 13

Houston, TX

#196 Jul 1, 2013
I organized a poll Johnny there's lot more than you think that want a separate country from America.
Adeen

Ocala, FL

#197 Jul 3, 2013
I am of Jamaican descent and I live in America and I think that this is a great post. I am thinking of leaving America because of how backwards America is going in racial progress, the economic and political instability and most of all, I think America is just not a country for me to live in.

I just don't know which country to go to though.
Adeen

Ocala, FL

#198 Jul 3, 2013
Jean-Luc Picard wrote:
I personally think everybody should just go back to where they are originally from and stick to their own societies. That would mean black people going back to Africa and White people in America going back to Europe. Giving the land back to the native Americans who are the only people who should truly be allowed to call themselves American. Multiculturalism has taught me many things but it defiantly doesn't work. Juggling so many issues under one roof causes a lot of tension.
I personally dream of a place where i can be proud of my country and know my neighbors and culture without having to compromise every time the next ship load of immigrants come.
Well said. Multiculturalism doesn't work. Personally I want to move out of America and I believe that my people should build a homeland outside of America not in this wicked country!

America has never meant Blacks well at all.

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#199 Jul 7, 2013
Deception is a form of control and used to confuse people. Americas greatest deception is to confuse you and make you belive that this land is rightfully theirs and wholly theirs. Yet historical evidence proves otherwise. Remember blacks in America are split over the idea of nationhood. America for it's purpose chose to treat us as one. Not all blacks want to seperate from America. Yet for over 300 years many have yearned for their own country here.

The deception is that Americans were the only ones that fought and died to build their country on this land. The repressed story Is that so have we, to form our own country here. This started in 1660, the amazing thing is that after so many years of repression, and the election of a black president, today millions of blacks still want to seperate and form their country here.
myvacantangel

Elliston, VA

#201 Jul 14, 2013
Go Morocco. Make it bigger too.
Rosier

New York, NY

#202 Jul 17, 2013
yes leaving would be nice... but the question is where, i have heard places like Angola, Benin and Ghana being places Blacks are expatriating too. t he stress and hatred of America isn't good for the psyche to be honest. I would most definitely emigrate, it may be hard to do and adjust but at least it would be done, by time the 2nd generation comes along i think it would be worth it.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#204 Jul 24, 2013
KIMBERLIE BANKS ---- You said "I AGREE BLACK PEOPLE HAVE HAD NOTHING IN THIS COUNTRY TO CALL THEIR OWN".----

You are 150% correct about this.

You said "GADAFFI WAS JUST PLANNING TO HELP BLACK PEOPLE DO JUST THAT".---- No.

Libyas former left wing dictator, Muammar al-Gaddafis goal & objective was for the continent of Africa to become one nation.

UNDER Gaddafis rule.

Gaddafi was looking out for himself. for Gaddafis own self interest.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#205 Jul 24, 2013
KIMBERLIE BANKS ---- You said "OUR RISE IS THEIR FALL. BECAUSE EVERYTIME WE START TO IMPROVE IN ANYWAY HERE COMES DEVIL CHILDREN TO STOP IT".----

Your 2 points here.---- I totally see your premises.

Yes, White-Americans collectively SURE do view African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) collectively as being a threat.

African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) SURE are viewed as being a threat to the American System.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#206 Jul 24, 2013
KIMBERLIE BANKS --- You said "THE BLACK PANTHER PARTY IS A PRIME EXAMPLE".--- True.

You said "IT STARTED IN OAKLAND, CA".--- Correct.

You said "AND HAD CHAPTERS WORLDWIDE".---- Not worldwide.

But, the Black Panther Party (BPP) did have chapters throughout the continental United States.

Primarily in the United States main urban centers.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#207 Jul 24, 2013
KIMBERLIE BANKS ---- You said "WHITEY DIDNT WANT TO SEE BLACKS AND OR PEOPLE OF COLOR ADVANCE".----

Somewhat true. Primarily not true.

In regards to "somewhat true".---- The United States Establishment SURE wanted to see African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) contained.

The United States Establishment also wanted to see African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) rolled back.



But, the United States Establishment didn't mind seeing Asians or Hispanics (Afro-Latinos included) advance.

This is why.---Asians & Hispanics (Afro-Latinos included) are NOT a threat to White America.

Asians & Hispanics (Afro-Latinos included) are NOT a threat to the American System.

The United States Establishment didn't mind seeing blacks from the Anglophone, French / Creole speaking Caribbean black nations &/or from Africa advance.

This is why.---- Blacks from the Anglophone, French / Creole speaking Caribbean black nations &/or from Africa are NOT a threat to White America.

Blacks from the Anglophone, French / Creole speaking Caribbean black nations & from Africa are NOT a threat to the American System.

But, White America SURE does view African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) collectively as being a threat.

The United States Establishment SURE does view
African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) collectively as being a threat.

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