Should Black People in the USA Leave ...
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#500 May 4, 2014
yon wrote:
<quoted text>
I think that the country is fed up with what blacks only think of what they can do with a basketball instead of what they can do to contribute intellectually.
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Yep. A White person cannot appear on a television news media network & state this. A White person cannot give a statement to a reporter who works for one of the United States newspaper print venues & state that. A White person cannot do that, because it isn't politically correct to do.

There are many public policy initiatives & social engineering policies in place. AGAINST African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves).

Hispanics (Afro-Latinos included) are being given "Honorary White Status" in the United States.

1965 till 2000.------

Non Hispanic Whites numbers have gone down in regards to percentage. Because of this, a "minority" group will have to become the "New Whites".

The "minority" group which is becoming the "New Whites" are Hispanics.

2000 census.------- Non Hispanic Whites were 63% of the United States population.

2010 census.------- It asked Hispanics what race they were, the overwhelming majority of Hispanics listed their race as being White. Because of this, this boosted White-Americans population up to 72.7%.

Hispanics (Afro-Latinos included) are being elevated & advanced in the United States. AT THE EXPENSE OF African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves).

Which shows a very small aspect of this dynamic at work.-------

http://www.city-journal.org/2008/18_1_blacks_... .

Hispanics (Afro-Latinos included) are viewed as being a racial buffer class. AGAINST African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves).

Hispanics (Afro-Latinos included) are being given "Honorary White Status" in the United States.
yon

Miami Beach, FL

#501 May 5, 2014
As usual Johnny your insights are right on. The facts are that blacks are sinking to the bottom of the totem pole and replaced by Hispanics who have "honor" and are achieving given their economic opportunity. I go back to Pastor Manning's observations that blacks have no honor in their reproductive tendencies with upwards of 80% born out of wedlock and the concomitant results. Sooner or later this bottom is going to be dredged no matter how well they play basketball and blame "whitey" in spite of "whiteys" faults. It may not come in our lifetime and it may be the Hispanics that decide the way things are going to be as their numbers keep increasing and white's decreasing as long as there's still a "Democratic Republic" in force not taken over by the NSA, TSA, IRS, CIA, etc.

Doctor REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#504 May 5, 2014
kas91 wrote:
My Proposal for Black Separatism in the United
Race relations in the USA have always been rocky and ambivalent. Racism within the country, on the most part has not progressed and has simply adapted to suit new surroundings.
On the one hand you have White Americans, who seem to be frustrated and irritated about what they view as being a burden on the nation - the continuous plight of African Americans. Whether it's to do with the social, economic and fiscal costs of building prisons to hold Black inmates, propping up welfare payments for a relatively higher unemployed group of people or managing and rehabilitating poor Black towns and cities, everyone else ends up footing the bill.
However, I could hazard a guess that many White Americans are still too cut off and racist towards Blacks to actually understand their struggle. I also believe that many do not want to dig deep into their pockets and pay the Black man the reparations that he deserves for his contributions towards building an industrial empire and the ills suffered by him during this development process.
African Americans have broken their backs, labouring for no working wage as slaves for hundreds of years; they have fought and died in wars to defend the country's freedom, while suffering the institutional and psychological racism waged upon them by the educational system, the judicial system, the housing market and of course, the occurrence and legacy of the Jim Crow laws. Not to mention the disproportionate impact that the national "War on Drugs" policy has had on the Black community. In the process of all of this they have been taken away from their homeland and separated from their religion, language, cultural and ancestral heritage to the point that they have lost their true sense of self. In return for all of this hardship, Blacks have been recognised (politically) as human beings equal to all Whites and other races, and have been given (in some states) rights to affirmative action for the past 40 or so years. Does this all seem fair?
On the other hand, Blacks want to help themselves in becoming self-reliant and share in the "American dream" but find that in a country where Whites dominate in the economic and political spheres of life that the odds are stacked against them. Particularly given that Blacks (clearly) do not start on a level playing field against Whites.
A solution to all of this could involve partitioning a piece of land within the US for Blacks to live and settle in, where they are separate from White Americans and other ethnicities. But, this delegated region would have to be completely autonomous in its own right. It would need its own national borders, Black-run government, courts, foreign policy etc. Essentially, this land must be declared as a self-governing nation-state. At least in this way, African Americans will find themselves much closer to truly being in control of their own destiny. Albeit, some kind of financial backing and general guidance would be needed by the US government, but only in specified areas and only for a set period of time.
To clear something up, I am myself a Black person and do not intend to spread any kind of racist material or propaganda, I'm just throwing this topic out there to see what kind of response I get. What do you guys make of this? In particular, I would like to get the opinions of African Americans themselves on this topic. Also, examples of countries or regions where something such as this has already happened are welcome. I know that something similar may have happened in India with the autonomous Kashmir state and that this could link into the Jewish community of Europe and the "Road to Zion" that was found in Israel but can you think of any others?
Looking forward to getting contributions from you guys on this topic.
This is REAL funny. This is a white dude pretending to be black. REAL funny. Another thing: BLACK MEN DON'T SAY 'YOU GUYS'....Unless you're Steve Irkyl.
Doctor REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#505 May 5, 2014
kas91 wrote:
My Proposal for Black Separatism in the United
Race relations in the USA have always been rocky and ambivalent. Racism within the country, on the most part has not progressed and has simply adapted to suit new surroundings.
On the one hand you have White Americans, who seem to be frustrated and irritated about what they view as being a burden on the nation - the continuous plight of African Americans. Whether it's to do with the social, economic and fiscal costs of building prisons to hold Black inmates, propping up welfare payments for a relatively higher unemployed group of people or managing and rehabilitating poor Black towns and cities, everyone else ends up footing the bill.
However, I could hazard a guess that many White Americans are still too cut off and racist towards Blacks to actually understand their struggle. I also believe that many do not want to dig deep into their pockets and pay the Black man the reparations that he deserves for his contributions towards building an industrial empire and the ills suffered by him during this development process.
African Americans have broken their backs, labouring for no working wage as slaves for hundreds of years; they have fought and died in wars to defend the country's freedom, while suffering the institutional and psychological racism waged upon them by the educational system, the judicial system, the housing market and of course, the occurrence and legacy of the Jim Crow laws. Not to mention the disproportionate impact that the national "War on Drugs" policy has had on the Black community. In the process of all of this they have been taken away from their homeland and separated from their religion, language, cultural and ancestral heritage to the point that they have lost their true sense of self. In return for all of this hardship, Blacks have been recognised (politically) as human beings equal to all Whites and other races, and have been given (in some states) rights to affirmative action for the past 40 or so years. Does this all seem fair?
On the other hand, Blacks want to help themselves in becoming self-reliant and share in the "American dream" but find that in a country where Whites dominate in the economic and political spheres of life that the odds are stacked against them. Particularly given that Blacks (clearly) do not start on a level playing field against Whites.
A solution to all of this could involve partitioning a piece of land within the US for Blacks to live and settle in, where they are separate from White Americans and other ethnicities. But, this delegated region would have to be completely autonomous in its own right. It would need its own national borders, Black-run government, courts, foreign policy etc. Essentially, this land must be declared as a self-governing nation-state. At least in this way, African Americans will find themselves much closer to truly being in control of their own destiny. Albeit, some kind of financial backing and general guidance would be needed by the US government, but only in specified areas and only for a set period of time.
To clear something up, I am myself a Black person and do not intend to spread any kind of racist material or propaganda, I'm just throwing this topic out there to see what kind of response I get. What do you guys make of this? In particular, I would like to get the opinions of African Americans themselves on this topic. Also, examples of countries or regions where something such as this has already happened are welcome. I know that something similar may have happened in India with the autonomous Kashmir state and that this could link into the Jewish community of Europe and the "Road to Zion" that was found in Israel but can you think of any others?
Looking forward to getting contributions from you guys on this topic.
This is REAL funny. This is a white dude pretending to be black.
Doctor REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#506 May 5, 2014
You can't stop me you Topix board monitor DORKS.
Doctor REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#507 May 5, 2014
kas91 wrote:
My Proposal for Black Separatism in the United
Race relations in the USA have always been rocky and ambivalent. Racism within the country, on the most part has not progressed and has simply adapted to suit new surroundings.
On the one hand you have White Americans, who seem to be frustrated and irritated about what they view as being a burden on the nation - the continuous plight of African Americans. Whether it's to do with the social, economic and fiscal costs of building prisons to hold Black inmates, propping up welfare payments for a relatively higher unemployed group of people or managing and rehabilitating poor Black towns and cities, everyone else ends up footing the bill.
However, I could hazard a guess that many White Americans are still too cut off and racist towards Blacks to actually understand their struggle. I also believe that many do not want to dig deep into their pockets and pay the Black man the reparations that he deserves for his contributions towards building an industrial empire and the ills suffered by him during this development process.
African Americans have broken their backs, labouring for no working wage as slaves for hundreds of years; they have fought and died in wars to defend the country's freedom, while suffering the institutional and psychological racism waged upon them by the educational system, the judicial system, the housing market and of course, the occurrence and legacy of the Jim Crow laws. Not to mention the disproportionate impact that the national "War on Drugs" policy has had on the Black community. In the process of all of this they have been taken away from their homeland and separated from their religion, language, cultural and ancestral heritage to the point that they have lost their true sense of self. In return for all of this hardship, Blacks have been recognised (politically) as human beings equal to all Whites and other races, and have been given (in some states) rights to affirmative action for the past 40 or so years. Does this all seem fair?
On the other hand, Blacks want to help themselves in becoming self-reliant and share in the "American dream" but find that in a country where Whites dominate in the economic and political spheres of life that the odds are stacked against them. Particularly given that Blacks (clearly) do not start on a level playing field against Whites.
A solution to all of this could involve partitioning a piece of land within the US for Blacks to live and settle in, where they are separate from White Americans and other ethnicities. But, this delegated region would have to be completely autonomous in its own right. It would need its own national borders, Black-run government, courts, foreign policy etc. Essentially, this land must be declared as a self-governing nation-state. At least in this way, African Americans will find themselves much closer to truly being in control of their own destiny. Albeit, some kind of financial backing and general guidance would be needed by the US government, but only in specified areas and only for a set period of time.
To clear something up, I am myself a Black person and do not intend to spread any kind of racist material or propaganda, I'm just throwing this topic out there to see what kind of response I get. What do you guys make of this? In particular, I would like to get the opinions of African Americans themselves on this topic. Also, examples of countries or regions where something such as this has already happened are welcome. I know that something similar may have happened in India with the autonomous Kashmir state and that this could link into the Jewish community of Europe and the "Road to Zion" that was found in Israel but can you think of any others?
Looking forward to getting contributions from you guys on this topic.
This thread was started by a white dude pretending to be black. REAL funny.
Doctor REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#508 May 5, 2014
And another tin: Black dudes don't say 'YOU GUYS'....unless you're Steve Irkyl.
yon

Miami Beach, FL

#509 May 7, 2014
Johnny wrote:
integrity doesn't matter. Money matters.
1 Timothy 6:10 - "For the love of money is the root of all evil...."

Matthew 6:24 - "No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will stand by and be devoted to the one and despise and be against the other. You cannot serve God and riches."
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#510 May 8, 2014
Doctor REALITY wrote:
<quoted text>This is REAL funny. This is a white dude pretending to be black. REAL funny. Another thing: BLACK MEN DON'T SAY 'YOU GUYS'....Unless you're Steve Irkyl.
__________

The poster who created this thread is black. He is Jamaican. What he typed up in his proposal for an independent African American nation, would be the correct & logical path to follow.

But, African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) won't follow. Because African Americans don't care about achieving economic independence or financial solvency.

African Americans are more concerned about & fixated on what Nicki Minaj & Lil Wayne are wearing.
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#511 May 8, 2014
yon.--------

You said "As usual Johnny your insights are right on".-------

yon, thanks.

You said "The facts are that blacks are sinking to the bottom of the totem pole and replaced by Hispanics".------

Oh yeah. Big time. Hispanics (Afro-Latinos included) are one of the United States (Along with Asians) preferred "minorities". Hispanics (Afro-Latinos included) are way preferred. OVER African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves).

You said "who have honor and are achieving given their economic opportunity".--------

Yep. Big time.

Most Hispanics (Afro-Latinos included) have honor, pride, respect, dignity, humility & gratitude.

Most Hispanics have goals, drive, desire, ambition, motivation, commitment & dedication.

Most Hispanics (Afro-Latinos included) value & cherish work ethic, family values, morals, decency, education, law & order.
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#512 May 8, 2014
yon.-------

You said "I go back to Pastor Manning's observations that blacks have no honor in their reproductive tendencies with upwards of 80% born out of wedlock and the concomitant results".-------

What Dr. Manning stated about that, he sure was 150% right on the mark.

You said "Sooner or later this bottom is going to be dredged no matter how well they play basketball and blame "whitey".-------

It has been happening for quite some time now. Via policy initiatives & social engineering policies.

There have been (Still are) many policy initiatives & social engineering policies in place. AGAINST African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves).
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#513 May 8, 2014
yon.--------

You said "Hispanics numbers keep increasing".-------

Yep. Big time.

In years to come, these will be the dominant groups in the United States (US).------

1. Non Hispanic Whites.

2. Hispanics.

Among the Hispanics, the 2 major Hispanic groups will be the Mexicans & the Dominicans.

You said "as long as there's still a "Democratic Republic" in force not taken over by the NSA, TSA, IRS, CIA".-----

Well, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) is dominant today. This will remain the deal into the future.

I'm all for it.
Doctor REALITY

United States

#514 May 8, 2014
Johnny wrote:
<quoted text>
__________
The poster who created this thread is black. He is Jamaican. What he typed up in his proposal for an independent African American nation, would be the correct & logical path to follow.
But, African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) won't follow. Because African Americans don't care about achieving economic independence or financial solvency.
African Americans are more concerned about & fixated on what Nicki Minaj & Lil Wayne are wearing.
You white racist bigot piece of trash Ku Klux Klansman!!!!!! I hope you die and go to hell!!!!!!!!!!
yon

Miami Beach, FL

#515 May 9, 2014
"In a letter of advice to Peter Carr, dated August 19, 1785, Thomas Jefferson said “He who permits himself to tell a lie once, finds it much easier to do it a second and third time, till at length it becomes habitual; he tells lies without attending to it, and truths without the world’s believing him.
This falsehood of the tongue leads to that of the heart, and in time depraves all its good dispositions”

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/...
yon

Miami Beach, FL

#516 May 9, 2014
Johnny wrote:
You said "who have honor and are achieving given their economic opportunity".--------
Yep. Big time.
Most Hispanics (Afro-Latinos included) have honor, pride, respect, dignity, humility & gratitude.
Most Hispanics have goals, drive, desire, ambition, motivation, commitment & dedication.
Most Hispanics (Afro-Latinos included) value & cherish work ethic, family values, morals, decency, education, law & order.
Saw this yesterday while doing laundry. Met a very nice Afro-Latino lady from the West Indies while keeping an eye on an American Black that was talking to himself and who probably couldn't wait to get home to collect his welfare check. It was just the two of them. The rest of the place was almost empty. What a stark contrast.
yon

Miami Beach, FL

#517 May 9, 2014
But if you say anything like that to the news media - it makes you racist.
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#518 May 9, 2014
Doctor REALITY wrote:
<quoted text>You white racist bigot piece of trash Ku Klux Klansman!!!!!! I hope you die and go to hell!!!!!!!!!!
__________

No Ku Klux Klan (KKK) here. The KKK is too extreme in their ideology & tactics.

Be very careful about wishing harm unto others. It has been said that it comes back to the wisher threefold.
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#519 May 9, 2014
yon wrote:
<quoted text>
Saw this yesterday while doing laundry. Met a very nice Afro-Latino lady from the West Indies while keeping an eye on an American Black that was talking to himself and who probably couldn't wait to get home to collect his welfare check. It was just the two of them. The rest of the place was almost empty. What a stark contrast.
__________

yon, your 5 points above.------- I sure see them.

That Afro-Latina womans reaction to that African American (Descendant of a black American slave) dude, no surprise. She was just being cautious & aware.

It is so very apparent how foreign born blacks (Afro-Latinos, blacks from the Anglophone, French / Creole speaking Caribbean black nations & from Africa) are very much different. Compared to what African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) are.
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#520 May 9, 2014
yon wrote:
But if you say anything like that to the news media - it makes you racist.
__________

Oh yeah. Whites are totally aware that they can't go on a United States mainstream television news media network & openly express what they think of African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves).

Whites are fully aware that they can't give a statement to an employee of one of this nations main newspaper print venues. It isn't politically correct to do so.

Whites deal with & counter African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) via many policy initiatives & social engineering policies.
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#521 May 9, 2014
yon.-------

Regarding your one link which you wanted me to check out about the John F. Kennedy (JFK) assassination.------

During my lunch break, I looked over that link in its entirety. On that link, there were other subjects which had a left wing slant. The creator of that link sure had a left wing bias.

What that dude typed up about what he thought about the JFK assassination.-------- I don't agree.

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