Should Black People in the USA Leave ...
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#479 Apr 19, 2014
yon.--------

The other day when I responded back to your other previous post which you addressed to me.-------- My previous rseponses back to you, posts #468, 470 & 471 are up.#469 was deleted.

Post #469 dealt with what preceded White-American federal politicians reaching out to wealthy mixed race New England shipowner Paul Cuffee. For Paul to be the head for the settlement of freed African Americans back to Africa.

1790 to late, 1810.-------

Slavery was legal in the American South. In the North, there were many freed African Americans.

These were the reasons for White-Americans wanting to deport African Americans back to Africa.--------

1. White-Americans viewed African Americans as having moral laxity. African americans were viewed as being licentious beings who would draw Whites into their savage, unrestrained ways.

2. White-Americans viewed African Americans as being criminal.

3. White-Americans viewed African Americans as being mentally inferior.

4. White-Americans viewed African Americans as being unfit for the duties of citizenship.

5. White-Americans viewed African Americans as being incapable of improvement.

6. Economic reasons.------ White-Americans viewed the presence of freed African Americans as threatening the jobs of working class Whites.

7. White Southerners feared that freed African Americans living in slave areas caused unrest among slaves & encouraged runaways & slave revolts.

8. White-Americans felt that African Americans couldn't function.

These were the reasons which led to White-American federal politicians to reach out to Paul Cuffee. For African Americans to be deported from the United States to colonize parts of Africa.
yon

Miami Beach, FL

#480 Apr 20, 2014
Thanks Johnny. There was nothing to indicate in that link that the story took place in any place but jolly old England unless you watched the video. Frankly I did not. I've had to do a lot of rethinking about certain things as most people are conditioned to think of history as beginning the day they were born or shortly thereafter. The 1960's and 70's were a tumultuous time with the radicals now in positions of university tenure and news creation and rewriting history and/or making people forget. They only want you to have the approved versions of the way things happened as they are run by members of a clandestine club that can murder their own chief executive in broad daylight, get away with it and make people forget about the real reason for another chief's execution 100 years before. We like to think that our political system is better than those of the rest of the world's - but it's just as ruthless and criminal with the only thing that matters is lust for power and money by those at the top with their secret oaths and blood curdling secret rituals that date back thousands of years to the mystery religions of Egypt and Babylon. The more things change the more they stay the same. So we have a choice as to which master we will serve. And it's not an easy choice. Given some of the things that have happened to me and things I've done unto myself I have to conclude that the only reason I'm still around is divine providence giving me the time to make that choice. Otherwise I'd have been a statistic a long time ago. http://eliyah.com/transcripts/html/03292014st...
yon

Miami Beach, FL

#481 Apr 24, 2014
BUNKERVILLE, Nev.— "Cliven Bundy stood by the Virgin River up the road from the armed checkpoint at the driveway of his ranch, signing autographs and posing for pictures. For 55 minutes, Mr. Bundy held forth to a clutch of supporters about his views on the troubled state of America — the overreaching federal government, the harassment of Western ranchers, the societal upheaval caused by abortion, even musing about whether slavery was so bad.........."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/us/politics...

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T22G6A8...
yon

Miami Beach, FL

#482 Apr 24, 2014
What if blacks had their own country and took homo's and atheists along to be their servants, and made them eunuchs?
yon

Miami Beach, FL

#483 Apr 27, 2014
And it's not going to change

L.A. Clippers Owner to GF:
Don't Bring Black People to My Games ...
Including Magic Johnson

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/04/26/donald-sterling...
Doctor REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#484 Apr 27, 2014
kas91 wrote:
My Proposal for Black Separatism in the United
Race relations in the USA have always been rocky and ambivalent. Racism within the country, on the most part has not progressed and has simply adapted to suit new surroundings.
On the one hand you have White Americans, who seem to be frustrated and irritated about what they view as being a burden on the nation - the continuous plight of African Americans. Whether it's to do with the social, economic and fiscal costs of building prisons to hold Black inmates, propping up welfare payments for a relatively higher unemployed group of people or managing and rehabilitating poor Black towns and cities, everyone else ends up footing the bill.
However, I could hazard a guess that many White Americans are still too cut off and racist towards Blacks to actually understand their struggle. I also believe that many do not want to dig deep into their pockets and pay the Black man the reparations that he deserves for his contributions towards building an industrial empire and the ills suffered by him during this development process.
African Americans have broken their backs, labouring for no working wage as slaves for hundreds of years; they have fought and died in wars to defend the country's freedom, while suffering the institutional and psychological racism waged upon them by the educational system, the judicial system, the housing market and of course, the occurrence and legacy of the Jim Crow laws. Not to mention the disproportionate impact that the national "War on Drugs" policy has had on the Black community. In the process of all of this they have been taken away from their homeland and separated from their religion, language, cultural and ancestral heritage to the point that they have lost their true sense of self. In return for all of this hardship, Blacks have been recognised (politically) as human beings equal to all Whites and other races, and have been given (in some states) rights to affirmative action for the past 40 or so years. Does this all seem fair?
On the other hand, Blacks want to help themselves in becoming self-reliant and share in the "American dream" but find that in a country where Whites dominate in the economic and political spheres of life that the odds are stacked against them. Particularly given that Blacks (clearly) do not start on a level playing field against Whites.
A solution to all of this could involve partitioning a piece of land within the US for Blacks to live and settle in, where they are separate from White Americans and other ethnicities. But, this delegated region would have to be completely autonomous in its own right. It would need its own national borders, Black-run government, courts, foreign policy etc. Essentially, this land must be declared as a self-governing nation-state. At least in this way, African Americans will find themselves much closer to truly being in control of their own destiny. Albeit, some kind of financial backing and general guidance would be needed by the US government, but only in specified areas and only for a set period of time.
To clear something up, I am myself a Black person and do not intend to spread any kind of racist material or propaganda, I'm just throwing this topic out there to see what kind of response I get. What do you guys make of this? In particular,
Looking forward to getting contributions from you guys on this topic.
Only some dumb, stupid, cowardly white racist loser would start a thread like this. And then he tries to word his post to make it seem like he's black. Wish people like you would leave America and never come back.
yon

Miami Beach, FL

#485 Apr 27, 2014
yon wrote:
And it's not going to change
L.A. Clippers Owner to GF:
Don't Bring Black People to My Games ...
Including Magic Johnson
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/04/26/donald-sterling...
I think that the country is fed up with what blacks only think of what they can do with a basketball instead of what they can do to contribute intellectually.

President Obama: Alleged Donald Sterling remarks 'incredibly offensive'

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/preside...
yon

Miami Beach, FL

#487 Apr 28, 2014
"In a sublimely ironic development in the Donald Sterling racist tape saga, it turns out that the Los Angeles NAACP is honoring Sterling with a Lifetime Achievement Award:"

http://politix.topix.com/story/11741-your-com...

"NAACP Cancels Award To Donald Sterling"
The move isn't surprising

http://politix.topix.com/story/11746-naacp-ca...

What about Al Sharpton, Jesse's and Obama's racist remarks?
yon

Miami Beach, FL

#488 Apr 28, 2014
Playing basketball is not what builds a nation.
yon

Miami Beach, FL

#489 Apr 28, 2014
Nor do sexual deviants.
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#490 May 4, 2014
Doctor REALITY wrote:
<quoted text>Only some dumb, stupid, cowardly white racist loser would start a thread like this. And then he tries to word his post to make it seem like he's black. Wish people like you would leave America and never come back.
__________

No, the poster who created this thread is black. His statements for a proposed African American nation.------- Were very much on point for a path to follow.

But, African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) are not going to go forward with an independent nation. Not happening.

African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) always talk, but, they can never take positive action to improve themselves.

It is what it is.
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#491 May 4, 2014
yon.--------

You said "Thanks Johnny".-------

yon, you bet. Likewise. I say likewise, because you & I have been blogging from early January, 2013 till now. We have seen eye to eye 99% of the time about politics, unions, Chicago Cubs, Cleveland Browns, Cleveland Indians, Bob Feller, Hockey, Chicago Blackhawks, etc..

You said "The 1960's and 70's were a tumultuous time".-------

Oh yeah. Primarily from early, 1966 till late, 1972. Spearheaded by the left wing Counterculture Movement.

You said "with the radicals now in positions of university tenure and news creation and rewriting history and/or making people forget".------

Yes, the United States Universities (Especially the public Universities) have many left wing professors.

The Whites who have far left wing beliefs, from what age do they usually have these views?------ From age 14 to 22. By age 24, the overwhelming majority of them change.
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#492 May 4, 2014
yon.--------

You said "Given some of the things that have happened to me and things I've done unto myself I have to conclude that the only reason I'm still around is divine providence giving me the time to make that choice".-------

Oh okay. Well, thank God you are still around, doing fine & well.
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#493 May 4, 2014
yon wrote:
BUNKERVILLE, Nev.— "Cliven Bundy stood by the Virgin River up the road from the armed checkpoint at the driveway of his ranch, signing autographs and posing for pictures. For 55 minutes, Mr. Bundy held forth to a clutch of supporters about his views on the troubled state of America — the overreaching federal government, the harassment of Western ranchers, the societal upheaval caused by abortion, even musing about whether slavery was so bad.........."
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/us/politics...
__________

yon, I opened up your link. That article dealt with the Cliven Bundy / federal government rift.

Cliven has been at odds with the federal government since 1993.
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#494 May 4, 2014
yon wrote:
And it's not going to change
L.A. Clippers Owner to GF:
Don't Bring Black People to My Games ...
Including Magic Johnson
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/04/26/donald-sterling...
__________

Oh yeah. Despite Donald Sterling spending a lot of money on his much younger girlfriend, she still set him up.

Yesterday, she was interviewed. She tried to play down her set up. She claimed that she loved Donald.
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#495 May 4, 2014
yon wrote:
What if blacks had their own country and took homo's and atheists along to be their servants, and made them eunuchs?
__________

Well, African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) aren't going to get their own nation in the continental United States. For decades, a few far left wing African American "leaders" have stated that they'd like to see an independent African American nation. But, the overwhelming majority of African Americans don't support this.

The African Americans who do have some sympathy for this proposal.------- If African Americans would get an independent nation, they feel that African Americans wouldn't be able to operate it effectively. It would look like present day 9th Ward New Orleans.
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#496 May 4, 2014
yon wrote:
"In a sublimely ironic development in the Donald Sterling racist tape saga, it turns out that the Los Angeles NAACP is honoring Sterling with a Lifetime Achievement Award:"
http://politix.topix.com/story/11741-your-com...
__________

yon, on that link above, it showed all of the past charges against Donald Sterling. Clearly, the NAACP was totally aware of this. It didn't matter to them. The NAACP was still going to honor Donald.

That shows that the NAACP (This is the same with other left wing African American organizations) that integrity doesn't matter. Money matters.
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#497 May 4, 2014
yon wrote:
"NAACP Cancels Award To Donald Sterling"
The move isn't surprising
http://politix.topix.com/story/11746-naacp-ca...
__________

Right after Donald Sterling made those comments, with all of the United States mainstream television news media networks reporting on it.-------- The NAACP had to cancel their award for Donald.

But, the NAACPs Los Angeles Chapter expressed that there was room for forgiveness for Sterling. If Donald would give money to organizations which the NAACP deemed sufficient.

Yet again, showing that left wing African American (Descendants of black American slaves) organizations aren't about integrity.
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#498 May 4, 2014
yon wrote:
What about Al Sharpton, Jesse's racist remarks?
__________

I see your angle here. But, since Al Shartpon & Jesse Jackson Sr. are Democrats, the United States mainstream television news media networks & newspaper print venues don't report on this. Because most non Hispanic Whites in the television news media networks & newspaper print venues are Democrats.

If the non Hispanic Whites in the television news media networks & newspaper print venues would report on the negatives of Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson Sr., left wing African American organizations would complain.

The non Hispanic Whites in the television news media networks & newspaper print venues know that African Americans have overwhelming voted for candidates of the Democratic Party from 1960 till now. They don't want to antagonize the African American "community". Because they know that the Democratic Party needs the African American vote.
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#499 May 4, 2014
yon wrote:
<quoted text>President Obama: Alleged Donald Sterling remarks 'incredibly offensive'
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/preside...
__________

When Democrat Barack Obama was giving that news conference, he was asked about the Donald Sterling incident. Barack gave his opinion.

What Obama said, no surprise.

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