Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#344 Dec 3, 2013
kas91 -----

You said "Furthermore, who's to say that the USA wouldn't do it?".-----

Uh, the federal government sure WOULDN'T assist African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) attempting to set up an independent African American nation in the continental United States.

It is because of these 2 factors.-----

1. The African American (Descendants of black American slaves) masses collectively are a threat to White America.

2. African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) collectively are a threat to the American System.

This is why that there are many public policy initiatives & social engineering policies in place.

AGAINST African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves).

Primarily to fracture & fragment the African American "community".
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#345 Dec 3, 2013
kas91 wrote:
<quoted text>Subsidies on behalf of US government have the possibility of only ringing to the tone of a couple hundred billion dollars. It can't be denied that this is still alot of money, but in light of how much the US government spends on funding wars and aid projects around the world, it is safe to say that US subsidies to this new found nation is within the government's grasp.
__________

You are 150% correct that United States (US) subsidies would be within the federal governments grasp.

But (With all due respect), you overlooked several factors.

Yes, the US federal government does spend hundreds of billions of dollars to fund wars & on aid to foreign nations.

The US government spending these hundreds of billions of dollars to fund wars & on aid to foreign nations.----- This aid is being given to foreign Allies of the US.

These foreign Allies of the US are NOT threats to White America.

These foreign Allies of the US are NOT threats to the American System.

African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) collectively ARE a threat to White America.

African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) collectively ARE a threat to the American System.

This is why, that African American (Descendants of black American slaves) advocates for establishing a separate African American nation in the continental US.---- Won't be receiving any assistance from the federal government.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#346 Dec 3, 2013
kas91 wrote:
<quoted text>So the whole assertion as to why this new nation would crumble is, in my view not very solid.
__________

Well, as is.---- There is absolutely NO traction among African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) for establishing an independent nation in the continental United States.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#347 Dec 3, 2013
Cod ghosts10 wrote:
I think any race that isn't hostile should live a happy life in America.
__________

Absolutely.

The non-Hispanic White masses collectively, non-Hispanic Whites in businesses, non-Hispanic Whites in the business lobby & non-Hispanic White politicians do NOT consider Hispanics (Afro-Latinos included) to be a threat.

Hispanics (Afro-Latinos included) are NOT a threat to the American System.

Since the United States non-Hispanic White population has gone down, a respective "minority" group will have to become the "New Whites".

The "minority" group which is becoming the "New Whites" are Hispanics.

Hispanics (Afro-Latinos included) are being elevated & advanced in this nation. AT THE EXPENSE OF African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves).

Here is a link which shows a very small aspect of this dynamic at work.-----

http://www.city-journal.org/2008/18_1_blacks_... .

Hispanics (Afro-Latinos included) are viewed as being a racial buffer class. AGAINST African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves).

Hispanics (Afro-Latinos included) are being given "Honorary White Status" in the United States.

Hispanics (Afro-Latinos included) don't have the critical, mass numbers throughout this nation yet. But, in years to come, they will.

With this, Hispanics (Afro-Latinos included) will then have the complete "Honorary Minority Status" & the "Preferential Minority Status" with the federal government.

For aid, jobs, government contracts, set asides, housing, health care & education.

Hispanics (Afro-Latinos included) will be TOTALLY undercutting phasing out & displacing African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) in the United States.

Making most African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) a PERMANENT underclass in this nation.

This is just for starts.

In years to come, these will be the dominant groups in the United States.-----

1. Non-Hispanic Whites.

2. Hispanics.

Among the Hispanics, the 2 top, major Hispanic groups will be the Mexicans & the Dominicans.
Drop in the Ocean

Ypsilanti, MI

#348 Dec 6, 2013
It sounds nice...in theory. But chances are it will remain nothing more than a dream. African-Americans truly are a nation within a nation however. African-Americans, though comprising a rather small percentage of the US population, are actually quite numbered in quantity. There are like...what, almost 40 million of us? There are more of us than in all of the citizens in the Scandinavian/Nordic countries...combined (about 25 million). In addition to that, although it is true that our money is spent on products owned by White companies (and thus, filter into White communities), we most certainly do have quite a GDP. In fact, if we were our own nation, we'd be one of the richer countries in the world. Probably in the top 15-25, maybe even higher. If only our cash circulated within our own community. Derrr.
No racism in USA

Brooklyn, NY

#349 Dec 6, 2013
This proposition is obviously not realistic. I can imagine many people supporting it though. Future of such land would be pretty undetermined, take Detroit. Anyway, i think those who prefer to live in black majority country can find a way to move to Africa or Jamaica etc. USA respects all people, their rights, equality as much as 21century can afford. I don't think there is racism in the usa, given half black president, black singers, Ophra, black politicians. Those who stay focused can achieve a lot. First we have to learn how to take care of ourselfes and own kids and only then ask someone for help.
Doctor REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#350 Dec 6, 2013
Hey, here's an idea!!! Why don't all us non-injun folks leave this land and go back to our ancestral lands and then everybody will be happy, RIGHT??!!
angelabuford

United States

#351 Dec 15, 2013
Yes,i think all black americans should go back to africa for free by birth.parts of africa by choice.and rebuild (our) country.if we can build america what a wonderful job we have done may i add....however,we can build up africa as one nation!!! And come together as one united as family we are,!!!
tony rock

United States

#352 Dec 15, 2013
white ppls create hell for every race but there race every were that goooo! Done stolen dam near every fucking country on the map.yah killed and gets away with it.cant nobody see any peace for u.now yall really taking over africa gets there for free.but the ppl the country belongs to have to pay a lurge amount.yall white rednecks gonna burn in hell.yall tooo evil!!!!!!!
tony rock

United States

#353 Dec 15, 2013
If it wasnt for blacks america wouldnt be shit but water and trees...now im not black but i can spot a field of snakes when i see them...and i strongly say white ppls will never respect and honor black ppls nevered has.no matter what they have done.not to say if it wasnt for black women white children wouldnt had been raised all feed.and half of us today,was in deed raised by a black woman by forced.now we giving them hell still and still stealing from them.if it had not have been for us whites hell the wars wouldnt have nevered started in the first place now we looks towards again a black man to save our ungreatful sorry white asses!!!! Shame on us all uncle tom!!!! We all will see satan i just know it!!!!!
Maestro

Lakeland, FL

#354 Dec 16, 2013
why not just have African American reservations just like we have Native American reservations. I wouldn't advocate it but it might be an option on the table. Personally I wouldn't want to pay for it though just like I don't like American tax dollars funding Native American reservations while they build multimillion dollar casinos on their own lands.
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#355 Dec 29, 2013
Drop in the Ocean -------

You said "It sounds nice...in theory. But chances are it will remain nothing more than a dream".------

Your 2 points here, you are 150% correct.

You said "African-Americans truly are a nation within a nation however".------

Yep. Big time.

African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) situation in regards to White Americans is a case of d-----d if they do, d----d if they don't.

Because African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) collectively ARE a threat to White America.

African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) collectively ARE a threat to the American System.

But, at the same time.----- Many, many White-Americans have made (Still are) A LOT of money off of African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves).
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#356 Dec 29, 2013
Drop in the Ocean wrote:
There are like...what, almost 40 million of us?
__________

Americans who classify as "African American" are around 40 million.

But, this will be going way down in years to come. Because of this.-------

Blacks in the United States (US) who have ancestral roots from the Angolphone, French / Creole speaking Caribbean black nations & from Africa have very much been encouraged to seek SEPARATE classification. DIFFERENT from African American.

Blacks in the US who have ancestral roots from the Anglophone, French / Creole speaking Caribbean black nations & from Africa haven't received the separate classification yet. But, in due time, they will.

Once this happens, this will even FURTHER fracture & fragment the African American "community" even more.
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#357 Dec 29, 2013
Drop in the Ocean wrote:
If only our cash circulated within our own community. Derrr.
__________

True. But, this hasn't been the case. It won't be the case. Because African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) don't care about themselves. Don't have respect for themselves.

What is happening is that Hispanics (Afro-Latinos included) are being elevated & advanced in the United States (US). AT THE EXPENSE OF African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves).

To a much lesser extent.------- Blacks who have ancestral roots from the Anglophone, French / Creole speaking Caribbean black nations & from Africa are being elevated & advanced in the US. AT THE EXPENSE OF African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves).

That, in years to come.-------- Hispanics (Afro-Latinos included) will be totally usurping, undercutting, phasing out & displacing African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) in the United States.

Making most African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) a PERMANENT underclass in this nation.

This is just for starts.
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#358 Dec 29, 2013
No racism in USA -------

You said "This proposition is obviously not realistic".-------

Correct.

You said "I can imagine many people supporting it though".------

No.

Regardless, an "independent" African American homeland is not happening. It is not happening in any region in the continental United States. It is not happening in any region in any land in any respective black Sub-Saharan African nation. Period.
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#359 Dec 29, 2013
No racism in USA wrote:
I don't think there is racism in the usa, given half black president, black singers, Ophra, black politicians.
__________

White-Americans who like certain black politicians, singers &/or Oprah Winfrey.------- This doesn't mean a thing.

These White-Americans STILL harbor racism & prejudices towards most African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves).

There are radical Right wing White organizations like the Ku Klux Klan (KKK), Aryan Nations & skinheads.

Most White-Americans do NOT support radical Right wing White organizations.

The average, everyday White-American.------ He/she will like several African American basketball & football players. He/she will like several African American singers, actors, actresses & comedians. He/she will have several African American aquaintances. He/she will have a few African American friends.

But, at the same time, the average, everday White-American.------ Will still view most African Americans as being less.

The average, everyday White-American.------- Will still view most African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) as being inferior.
ohio

Youngstown, OH

#360 Dec 29, 2013
they got it to good just look around
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#361 Dec 29, 2013
tony rock wrote:
now im not black. Shame on us all uncle tom!
__________

African American (Descendant of a black American slave) boy, in your attempt at pretending to be White.-------- You screwed up.

Your second statement above totally contradicts your first statement.

Are you undergoing a gender identity crisis? I pose this question, because in your one previous post on this thread, post #351, you typed up your post under the name "angelabuford".

Why are you pretending to be something which you are not?

When one pretends to be something which they are not, they come across as being a punk & a coward.

Granted, there are many very negative stereotypes & stigmas which are associated with "your people" (African Americans ----- Descendants of black American slaves).

But, you pretending to be something which you are not.------- That is a punk & a coward move.

So, from now on, before you type up your posts.------- Don't pretend to be something which you are not.

Just post as what you are, an African American (Descendant of a black American slave).
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#362 Dec 29, 2013
tony rock -------

You said "Yes,i think all black americans should go back to africa for free by birth.parts of africa by choice and rebuild (our) country".--------

First off, the continent of Africa is NOT "your peoples" (African Americans ------ Descendants of black American slaves) country.

Secondly, African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) are not going to be building up any territory in any respective black Sub-Saharan African nation.

You said "however,we can build up africa as one nation!!".-------

No, you can't.

Most African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) can't even function or survive on their own in this nation. So, how the heck can African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) build up black Sub-Saharan Africa?------- They can't.
Johnny

Oak Creek, WI

#363 Dec 29, 2013
angelabuford wrote:
And come together as one united as family we are!!
__________

It has not happened. It won't be happening. Ever.

Black Africans ((Nigerians (Igbos, Yoruba, Fulani), Ghanaians, Senegalese, Guineans, Malinese, Cameroonians, Cote d'Ivoirans, Togoans, Guinea-Bissauans, Angolans, Namibians, Shonas, Ndebeles, Zulus, Chadians, Ugandans, Rwandans, Burundis, Ethiopians (Amharics, etc.), Eritreans, Somalis, Kenyans, Tanzanians))

also look down upon African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves).

Black Africans (All of the respective black African groups which I listed in my paragraph above) also consider African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) as being less.

Even foreign born blacks (Afro-Latinos, blacks from the Anglophone, French / Creole speaking Caribbean black nations & from Africa) distance themselves from African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves).

Even foreign born blacks consider most African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) to be a professional, perpetual, lifetime pity case & charity case.

Even foreign born blacks consider most African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) to be royal, big time, pathetic losers & failures at life.

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