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Black Queen ---- You said "Remember Africa is not in debt".---- Oh, the black African nations are VERY much in debt.

You said "America just mad that Africa didn't give them the deal".----

No, the United States federal government wasn't (Still isn't) "mad" at all.

This is why.---- Before Ghana, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Tanzania, Zimbabwe, Kenya & Ethiopia concluded trade deals with China.---- The United States, Israel & the United Kingdom had FIRST pick with these black African nations.

But, the United States federal government, Israeli government & British government DELIBERATELY set very high interest rates with these black African nations.

Even with China concluding trade agreements with these black African nations.---- The United States federal government, Israeli government & British government maintain weight over these black African nations.

This is how.---- Via banking funds.

Primarily via the Vulture Funds.
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Black Queen ---- You said "Wow Johnny why would America want to start trouble because Africans finally done became independent and got there own country?".----

If there would be an independent African American (Descendants of black American slaves) nation within the square area of the continental United States. If this independent African American nation would have raw materials, an army & an airforce. Which would have relations with foreign nations.----

This would VERY much be a threat to White America.

This would VERY much be a threat to the American System.

If millions of African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) would emigrate en-mass to Africa. Establish an independent nation which would have raw materials, an army & an airforce. Which would have relations with other nations.---

This would VERY much be a threat to Western banking & business interests.
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Black Queen ---- You asked "Don't they hate us?".----

True.

But, at the same time, White-Americans have made (Still do) TREMENDOUS profits. OFF of African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves).

An example.---- The goals & objectives of the Jamaican born Marcus Garvey. Marcus' eventual fate.---

Marcus Garvey wanted blacks to have their own nation &/or continent. Marcus advocated & pushed for a black nation &/or continent which was black owned & black operated.

Garvey wanted this black owned, black operated nation &/or continent to have been fully self sufficient & self supporting.

Actually (Ironically), the Ku Klux Klan supported Marcus' goals & objectives for blacks to have their own nation &/or continent.

But, there were many OTHER Whites who were very vehemently against this.

The Whites in the United States federal government, the Whites in the Intelligence Services, White business managers, White business owners, the Whites in the business lobby, the Whites in the fields of entertainment & the Whites in the fields of sports.---- Were totally against Garveys goals & objectives.

This is why.---- These Whites derived profits. OFF of African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves).
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Black Queen ---- About Marcus Garvey. What happened in the United States when Marcus was alive.---

Whites in businesses made money off of African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) earning & spending power.

Whites who owned, operated & managed sports teams.---- Made money off of African Americans.

Whites who owned &/or operated sports stadiums.---- Made money off of African Americans.

White car manufacturers made money off of African Americans.

White car dealerships made money off of African Americans.

Whites in the clothing field made money off of African Americans.

Whites in the jewelry field made money off of African Americans.

Whites in the furniture field made money off of African Americans.

Whites in the housing market made money off of African Americans.

So, Marcus Garveys plan & the Ku Klux Klans plan was not to be implemented.

This is why.---- Because there has been (Still are) MANY Whites who make profits off of African Americans.

Regarding Marcus Garveys organization.---- Very soon after it was formed, it was infiltrated. Destroyed from within.

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Aug 20, 2013
 
Doctor REALITY wrote:
<quoted text>Quit HIDING, dude. Everybody knows you're not BLACK. You're a WHITE GUY hiding behind a computer and an internet forum who wants all blacks to leave America. No black person in their right mind would start a thread with a title like this.
Nope Johnny I'm Black. But my question to you is why would no "black person in their right mind would start a thread with a title like this", why?
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Aug 20, 2013
 
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Nope Johnny I'm Black. But my question to you is why would no "black person in their right mind would start a thread with a title like this", why?
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Hi kas. How's it going? It has been awhile since we blogged on this thread.

I'm not this poster who is coming from Arkansas. Who is going by the name of "Doctor REALITY".

That is not me.

Which shows that this poster who is coming from Arkansas is not me.----

1. Doctor REALITY's writing style is very much different. Compared to my writing style.

2. The subject matter which Doctor REALITY blogs about is very much different. Compared to the subject matter which I blog about.

3. Doctor REALITY's IP number is totally different. Compared to my IP number.

Doctor REALITY is not me.

Doctor REALITY is a totally different poster.
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Aug 24, 2013
 
My ancestors on the Northern Plains of the Dakotas were basically told the same thing. How do you think this "separate nation" has worked out for the only true Native Americans? Respectfully, a separate nation does not solve the problem, it runs away from it. We all must learn that the wind blows from many different directions, and one direction is no better and no worse than another.
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Aug 25, 2013
 
I don't give a shit who takes Anerica at this point- I'm ready to leave. I don't think race is the real issue in America- moral values are. I've tried to be such a good person - raised right, educated, non violent, hard working ; but this nation is nothing but low class Blacks, whites and Latinos who all act alike. Everything that liberals have worked to achieve has been achieved. They've managed to dumb down the majority of people into becoming fat, lazy, entitled, and dumb as hell. America is finished. I'm 37 and I'd really like to emigrate to someplace with "sane" majority White culture. I want to live where people talk , act and dress apprpriately , value hard work and family , and attend Christisn churches to respect . I do not want large Jewish, Black ,or Muslim populations. Does anyone know of a country that an American like myself might immigrate to over a five year period ? Denmark , Australia, Belgium? I'd appreciate any websites that you may have - thank you!!

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#281
Aug 25, 2013
 
kas91 wrote:
My Proposal for Black Separatism in the United
Race relations in the USA have always been rocky and ambivalent. Racism within the country, on the most part has not progressed and has simply adapted to suit new surroundings.
On the one hand you have White Americans, who seem to be frustrated and irritated about what they view as being a burden on the nation - the continuous plight of African Americans. Whether it's to do with the social, economic and fiscal costs of building prisons to hold Black inmates, propping up welfare payments for a relatively higher unemployed group of people or managing and rehabilitating poor Black towns and cities, everyone else ends up footing the bill.
However, I could hazard a guess that many White Americans are still too cut off and racist towards Blacks to actually understand their struggle. I also believe that many do not want to dig deep into their pockets and pay the Black man the reparations that he deserves for his contributions towards building an industrial empire and the ills suffered by him during this development process.
African Americans have broken their backs, labouring for no working wage as slaves for hundreds of years; they have fought and died in wars to defend the country's freedom, while suffering the institutional and psychological racism waged upon them by the educational system, the judicial system, the housing market and of course, the occurrence and legacy of the Jim Crow laws. Not to mention the disproportionate impact that the national "War on Drugs" policy has had on the Black community. In the process of all of this they have been taken away from their homeland and separated from their religion, language, cultural and ancestral heritage to the point that they have lost their true sense of self. In return for all of this hardship, Blacks have been recognised (politically) as human beings equal to all Whites and other races, and have been given (in some states) rights to affirmative action for the past 40 or so years. Does this all seem fair?
On the other hand, Blacks want to help themselves in becoming self-reliant and share in the "American dream" but find that in a country where Whites dominate in the economic and political spheres of life that the odds are stacked against them. Particularly given that Blacks (clearly) do not start on a level playing field against Whites.
A solution to all of this could involve partitioning a piece of land within the US for Blacks to live and settle in, where they are separate from White Americans and other ethnicities. But, this delegated region would have to be completely autonomous in its own right. It would need its own national borders, Black-run government, courts, foreign policy etc. Essentially, this land must be declared as a self-governing nation-state. At least in this way, African Americans will find themselves much closer to truly being in control of their own destiny. Albeit, some kind of financial backing and general guidance would be needed by the US government, but only in specified areas and only for a set period of time.
To clear something up, I am myself a Black person and do not intend to spread any kind of racist material or propaganda, I'm just throwing this topic out there to see what kind of response I get. What do you guys make of this? In particular, I would like to get the opinions of African Americans themselves on this topic.
Something along these lines has been tried before. It's a country called LIBERIA that was started by freed American slaves I believe in Africa. It ended up being nothing but a third world country.

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Aug 25, 2013
 
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>Something along these lines has been tried before. It's a country called LIBERIA that was started by freed American slaves I believe in Africa. It ended up being nothing but a third world country.
Checkout the following link. Does this seem like a new black country where you'd like to live ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberia

I think I'll pass.
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Aug 25, 2013
 
they already have its called liberia and its a mess of a country.

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Aug 25, 2013
 
Sean wrote:
I don't give a shit who takes Anerica at this point- I'm ready to leave. I don't think race is the real issue in America- moral values are. I've tried to be such a good person - raised right, educated, non violent, hard working ; but this nation is nothing but low class Blacks, whites and Latinos who all act alike. Everything that liberals have worked to achieve has been achieved. They've managed to dumb down the majority of people into becoming fat, lazy, entitled, and dumb as hell. America is finished. I'm 37 and I'd really like to emigrate to someplace with "sane" majority White culture. I want to live where people talk , act and dress apprpriately , value hard work and family , and attend Christisn churches to respect . I do not want large Jewish, Black ,or Muslim populations. Does anyone know of a country that an American like myself might immigrate to over a five year period ? Denmark , Australia, Belgium? I'd appreciate any websites that you may have - thank you!!
Well I can recommend the perfect place just for you any you whites that think you're better than ANY of the other races. Satan often takes his summer vacations there and I hear it's the perfect place for whites that think their sh!t don't stink. I believe it's called HELL and the last time I checked hell was just bursting at the seams with whites trying to buy real estate there,LOL,LOL.

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Sean wrote:
I don't give a shit who takes Anerica at this point- I'm ready to leave. I don't think race is the real issue in America- moral values are. I've tried to be such a good person - raised right, educated, non violent, hard working ; but this nation is nothing but low class Blacks, whites and Latinos who all act alike. Everything that liberals have worked to achieve has been achieved. They've managed to dumb down the majority of people into becoming fat, lazy, entitled, and dumb as hell. America is finished. I'm 37 and I'd really like to emigrate to someplace with "sane" majority White culture. I want to live where people talk , act and dress apprpriately , value hard work and family , and attend Christisn churches to respect . I do not want large Jewish, Black ,or Muslim populations. Does anyone know of a country that an American like myself might immigrate to over a five year period ? Denmark , Australia, Belgium? I'd appreciate any websites that you may have - thank you!!
A few years back a survey was done and people of European countries were asked if they would like to see Americans of European descent return back to live in Europe again. An overwhelming majority of those that were polled stated that they would rather see white Americans go somewhere else instead of returning back to Europe.

This speaks volumes. Your own Anglo-Saxon people would not allow you white Americans back to live in Europe again if they had their way.

So if your own European/Anglo-saxon people rejects you then where will you go? Sincerely.
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Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>A few years back a survey was done and people of European countries were asked if they would like to see Americans of European descent return back to live in Europe again. An overwhelming majority of those that were polled stated that they would rather see white Americans go somewhere else instead of returning back to Europe.
This speaks volumes. Your own Anglo-Saxon people would not allow you white Americans back to live in Europe again if they had their way.
So if your own European/Anglo-saxon people rejects you then where will you go? Sincerely.
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You directed your above post to a different poster. He didn't respond back. But, I'll address it.

You are correct about that survey.

You omitted several other factors.

With that survey, they asked White Europeans how they would feel if their nations governments would welcome in over 223,000,000 White-Americans.

Most White Europeans stated that over 223,000,000 White-Americans coming into their nation(s), that it would be way, way too much. On their infrastructure, with accomodating & assimilating over 223,000,000 White-Americans.
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Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>Something along these lines has been tried before. It's a country called LIBERIA that was started by freed American slaves I believe in Africa. It ended up being nothing but a third world country.
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Yes, it was in West Africa.

You are 150% correct that Liberia became (It still is) a third world country.

As soon as the African American slaves got their freedom, when they emigrated to the West African nations of Sierra Leone & Liberia.

The African Americans were NOT well received at all.

In Sierra Leone, all of the respective black African ethnic groups, the Temne, Mende, Limba, Kono were NOT receptive at all to the newly freed African Americans.

In Liberia, all of the black African ethnic groups, the Kpelle, Bassa, Brebo, Gio, Mano, Kru, Loma, Kissi & Gola were NOT at all receptive to the freed African Americans.

In my next post, I'll list examples of this.

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Aug 27, 2013
 
Johnny wrote:
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You directed your above post to a different poster. He didn't respond back. But, I'll address it.
You are correct about that survey.
You omitted several other factors.
With that survey, they asked White Europeans how they would feel if their nations governments would welcome in over 223,000,000 White-Americans.
Most White Europeans stated that over 223,000,000 White-Americans coming into their nation(s), that it would be way, way too much. On their infrastructure, with accomodating & assimilating over 223,000,000 White-Americans.
One of the major reasons they gave for not wanting White Americansto relocate back to Europe was that white Americans are way too arrogant and they'd rather not have to deal with their imperious attitude so it'd be best if they went some where else to live.
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Tony17 ---- Examples.----

1. After the United States Civil War ended.----

A few thousand African Americans were deported to these nations.---- Haiti, Guyana, Belize & Panama.

The Haitians, Afro-Guyanese, Afro-Belizeans & Afro-Panamanians were NOT at all receptive to the African Americans.

2. Back in World War 2.---- When many African American (Descendants of black American slaves) army & navy personnel were sent to Sierra Leone & Liberia.

To help with protecting Sierra Leonean & Liberian territorial waters. From the German u-boats which were operating off the coasts of several West African nations.

The native Sierra Leoneans & Liberians were NOT at all welcoming to the African American servicemen.

What happened, is that many, many fights broke out.

Also, many murders even occurred.

3. April, 1980.---- Samuel Doe, a Liberian who was from the ethnic & indigenous Krahn group.

Forces under Samuel Does command executed an overthrow of Liberias Americo-Liberian (Descendants of free born & formerly enslaved blacks from America who founded Liberia in 1847) run government.

In the immediate aftermath of this, there was VERY terrible fighting & mass killings. With the indigenous black African ethnic groups on the one side.

Against the descendants of black American slaves.
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Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>One of the major reasons they gave for not wanting White Americansto relocate back to Europe was that white Americans are way too arrogant and they'd rather not have to deal with their imperious attitude so it'd be best if they went some where else to live.
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I did see that.

But, it was mainly due to fear of their nations being totally overwhelmed by over 223,000,000 White-Americans.

By being overwhelmed, in regards to their nations not being able to accomodate or assimilate over 223,000,000 foreigners.
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David wrote:
My ancestors on the Northern Plains of the Dakotas were basically told the same thing. How do you think this "separate nation" has worked out for the only true Native Americans?
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Some Native American leaders have been proponents of the "separate nation".

For many generations now, Native Americans haven't been "forced" to live on Native American reservations.

For many generations now, Native Americans can (They have) live among, mingle, work, socialize, etc. with other Americans.

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Yes, it was in West Africa.
You are 150% correct that Liberia became (It still is) a third world country.
As soon as the African American slaves got their freedom, when they emigrated to the West African nations of Sierra Leone & Liberia.
The African Americans were NOT well received at all.
In Sierra Leone, all of the respective black African ethnic groups, the Temne, Mende, Limba, Kono were NOT receptive at all to the newly freed African Americans.
In Liberia, all of the black African ethnic groups, the Kpelle, Bassa, Brebo, Gio, Mano, Kru, Loma, Kissi & Gola were NOT at all receptive to the freed African Americans.
In my next post, I'll list examples of this.
I'm already aware of how they were received. In my on opinion I think it may have been a bit of jealousy of the freed Blacks. Even today migrants coming here from Africa have displayed a certain amount of jealousy hense ""hostility" " towards the descendants of the slaves. Blacks have risen from the position of being descended from slaves, even with all the problems that blacks endure within its own race to become the most well to do and powerful black group
in the history of the black race.

Of course Blacks did not accomplish this without the help of our former taskmasters. But one must give credit where credit is due.

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