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#208 Jul 24, 2013
JLZ ---- You said "First Thing, Africa is european name, the correct name is Alkebulan".---- Well, it is interchangeable.
Even many "Afrocentrics" have stated the word "Africa".
Africa. Or, Alkebulan.
You said "We Black people Should form our own nation in the continental US territory".----
African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) "should" do this.
But, African Americans haven't done this.
#209 Jul 24, 2013
JLZ ---- You said "We have a long history of this idea of a Homeland Here which is actually older than intergration or even returning to Alkebulan. We have a History of puresing our Homeland of over 300 years".----
Your 3 points here.---- You are absolutely correct.
But, the number of African American leaders who have advocated for this.---- One can count the number on one hand.
In the past, the number of African American leaders who have advocated for this.--- Garnered very, very little support among the African American masses.
#210 Jul 24, 2013
JLZ ---- You said "This History of our Homeland has been repressed by America".---- True.
The reasons why this happened.---
It is because African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) collectively are a threat to White America.
It is because African Americans collectively are a threat to the American System.
#211 Jul 24, 2013
Oh, I don't doubt that at all.
In my previous blog discussions & debates on this thread with the posters kas & dkanela.---- I said that one will see posts from African American (Descendants of black American slaves) posters.---- Where they stated that they'd like to see an independent African American homeland.
But, African Americans stating that they'd like to see an independent African American homeland.---- Compared to them actually FOLLOWING through. As in with action.---- Is a totally different dynamic.
#212 Jul 24, 2013
Adeen ---- You said "I am of Jamaican descent and I live in America".---
Oh okay. Cool.
You said "I am thinking of leaving America because of how backwards America is going in racial progress, the economic and political instability".----
Clearly, from February, 2009 till now.---- The United States has become way, way more divided & polarized. Along ideological, class & racial lines.
Regarding race, it is primarily between African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) & White-Americans. By a very, very long stretch.
#213 Jul 24, 2013
Well, you are Jamaican.
This is why I point this out.---- Since you are NOT a descendant of a black American slave. Since your ancestral roots are DIFFERENT. Since you are Jamaican.---- White-Americans will (They do) look at you VERY differently. Compared to how White-Americans look at & view African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves).
White-Americans collectively view foreign born blacks (Afro-Latinos, blacks from the Anglophone, French / Creole speaking Caribbean black nations & from Africa) WAY differently.
White-Americans PREFER foreign born blacks (Afro-Latinos, blacks from the Anglophone, French / Creole speaking Caribbean black nations & from Africa). OVER African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves).
I, my family, friends, acquaintances & co-workers have heard many, many times from foreign born blacks.
Foreign born blacks have stated to us that they have received a very open & warm vibe from White-Americans.
The dynamics are very much different for foreign born blacks.
Compared to what the dynamics are for African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves).
#214 Jul 24, 2013
Adeen ---- You said "Multiculturalism doesn't work".---- It depends.
By "it depends", it is all predicated upon the respective groups.
Some groups are PREFERED. OVER another group.
You said "America has never meant Blacks well at all".----
Foreign born blacks (Afro-Latinos, blacks from the Anglophone, French / Creole speaking Caribbean black nations & from Africa) are PREFERED. OVER African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves).
Foreign born blacks are considered "The Acceptable Black People".
Throughout the years, I personally have heard many, many times.---- Whites say to foreign born blacks.---- "That they are the acceptable black people".
That they can stay around. That they have a form of "Pseudo Honorary White Status".
Throughout the years, I personally have heard foreign born blacks state (In different words though).---- That they felt relieved. That they felt a good, open vibe from White-Americans.
#215 Jul 24, 2013
JLZ1 ---- You said "Remember blacks in America are split over the idea of nationhood".--- True.
You said "Not all blacks want to seperate from America. Yet for over 300 years many have yearned for their own country here".----
Your 2 points here.---- You are absolutely correct.
You said "The repressed story Is that so have we, to form our own country here".---- True.
You said "This started in 1660".---- Yes, it was around 1660.---- Among a few African American slaves, that they wrote down a blueprint for an independent homeland.
What these African American slaves wrote down, their proposal was for an independent homeland within a parcel of territory in Americas 13 colonies.
#216 Jul 24, 2013
Democrat Barack Obama was elected president of the United States. Barack was re-elected president.
But, Obama is still just one person.
Barack is very limited in what he can do. In regards to Obama trying to change the American System.
Most of all, Barack cannot change all of the public policy initiatives which are being undertaken. Against African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves).
Obama cannot change all of the social engineering policies which are being undertaken. Against African Americans.
#217 Jul 24, 2013
If these millions of African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) would get organized for really pursuing a formation of an independent African American homeland.---- They couldn't expect any assistance from the United States federal government.
An independent African American homeland within the borders of the continental United States.---
If this independent African American homeland would have raw materials.
If this independent African American homeland would have its own army, airforce, navy, security forces & National Guard.
If this independent African American homeland would have alliances with foreign nations.
This SURE would constitute a MAJOR threat to White America.
This SURE would be a MAJOR threat to the United States federal government.
What would be sure to follow.---- Would be MAJOR attempts at destabilizing & sabotaging this independent African American homeland.
Even a very high probability of outright & all out war.
#219 Jul 30, 2013
I Think this will be a good Idea. We need to leave America,or at least have somewhere to go. We can get land in Africa. We need to spread the word and start slowly leaving here and let them have America.
#220 Jul 30, 2013
The reason why Blacks have not commented yet because they have not been on here but they will
#221 Jul 30, 2013
I know if the word about leaving America to establish our own Country in Africa or help build Jamaica it will work. We have to get the word out. We need to start of at least getting dual citizenship in one of the African Countries it would not be that hard after all we are African.
#222 Jul 30, 2013
All America do is create problems trying to start race wars and if that happens this country will be torn apart Duhh.
#223 Jul 31, 2013
I agree with you. We need to leave AmeriKKKlan. My family is from Jamaica but Jamaica is not a safe haven for me or my family because of the high crime rate. Africa would be nice, much better than this country. This country is growing worse and worse each year
#224 Aug 3, 2013
I couldn't agree more! Get out!!!
Saint Louis, MO
#225 Aug 3, 2013
WELL NOW....if we would have kept all our cities segregated and stopped busing etc we would not have alot of the problems we have now. It used to be you went to school where you lived and where you lived was what you could afford.
NO to their own country but go back to living in your own neighborhoods OR at least what you could afford.
#226 Aug 4, 2013
Yes to our own country. When America is torn the shits, and it will get torn to shits, blacks are going to be long gone trust me it is in the making Africa and Jamaica here we come to help build our own government and our own lands. To China And Africa. Remember Africa is not in debt, but racist America is. I advise all Blacks start getting to know your brothers and sisters in Africa, and Jamaica. Get your passport so when the time comes, it will be an easy cross over. Whites want to start shit about China is trying to take over Africa not going to happen. America just ad that Africa didn't give them the deal, China was better. Black people please prepare.
#227 Aug 4, 2013
Wow Johnny why would America want to start trouble because Africans finally done became independent and got there own country? Don't they hate us? Wouldn't they be saying HOORAY? Just proves The US Jealousy of an independent African Nation or African period. Trust me you can bet on this in the future for Africa. Blacks can Build just look at America Naturally strong and can survive any weather condition, and radiation. Also can survive space why do you think they spray the space shuttle with melanin from an Africans they killed for the melanin. Our melanin in space is a natural shield against radiation. Blacks are a Biological threat to the white race they know we can destroy them genetically we are very powerful people it is time to show. lets get our own for the sake of our children.
#228 Aug 5, 2013
You told him right don't be surprised because it is going to happen especially if they have people like me and you we need to talk i love the way you think.
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