New statue of Satan in Oklahoma
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#43 Jan 13, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
OK..... Did you try to say something here?
Well, yes, that the question of whether or not it is constitutionally acceptable to display representations of the 10 Commandments is as black and white as displaying more specific religious symbols.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
No shit. Those things you mentioned promote evil and unjust, as does Satan.
This is why the statue should not be allowed.
I don't know if you've noticed this, but there are folk who feel the same way about God, if not worse. I'm not one of them, but there are folk who have serious issues in that regard. If Christians get the right to have a monument to their God on the capitol grounds, no matter who might be offended by it, so do the Satanists, no matter who might be offended by it. This is equal protection under the law 101.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Would you agree to a judge hanging a swastika in his courtroom, with the explanation that it is a Hindu religious symbol?
His explanation of it as a religious symbol would be the reason why it would have to come down. The government is by design religion neutral, even if those in it aren't. Overt expressions of preference of one faith over another by the government, unacceptable. It's why kids are allowed to pray all they want in public schools but there is no school prayer.

If the judge is allowed to express his religious faith on the walls of his courtroom, all faiths share an equal right to express their religious faith on his courtroom walls, whether he approves of them or not.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
This statue in question isn't a viewpoint of Satanists. It's an ignorant depiction of an otherwise undescribed deity.
This from the faith in the white skinned Jesus, with blue eyes and fabulous blond highlights. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
You don't want equality and freedom of religious expression, you'd rather see religious expression go by the wayside and go into the closet.
Don't deny it.
Sorry child, but I'm the one defending equality and religious freedom here, you are the one trying to beat those principles to a pulp. When it comes to the public's space, we ALL share an equal right to it. It isn't an absolute right, terms and conditions do apply, but they have to at least try to level the playing field. If Christians have the right to a monument to their faith in the public's space, so do any other faiths wishing to avail themselves of that right. Equal protection under the law, don't you know. As far as quashing religious expression goes, ask around, I defend the rights of Fred Phelps and his family freak show of hate to do what they do, even though I can tell you from personal experience that they are an experience no one wants. I'm of the belief that sometimes the best exercise of the right to believe in whatever floats your boat is keeping it to yourself, but it's not the government's job to shut you up, or mine either.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Oh but we are a Christian nation, son. Through and through.
We're a nation which is, always has and probably always will be as long as it is here, predominantly run by Christians, but it was purposefully designed not to be a Christian nation. There's a difference between having officials who are religious and having an official religion with religious officials. They can be a Bible believing Christian from the tips of their toes to the top of their heads, but their job is not that of a Bible believing Christian, it's neutral.

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