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Yellow Dawg Democrat wrote:
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Well, you convinced ME! You are full of it!_8-)
(Interesting to me that you concentrate on Joe Soptic, when there were 749 others who lost their jobs at GST Steel.)
And ... speaking of "naught" ... your boy Romney lost ... so your vote counted for "naught."
FOUR MORE YEARS! GET USED TO IT!_8-)
Oh, I forgot to mention... nay, repeat:
Romney left Bain Capital two years BEFORE GST filed for bankruptcy. Your timeline holds no water for blaming Romney.

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Yellow Dawg Democrat wrote:
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First of all, true "venture capitalists" deny that Bain (read: Romney) was a "venture capitalist" endeavor.
Listen to this about Romney: " ... some of his fellow Republican presidential hopefuls accuse him of being part of a 'destruction' side of capitalism’s 'creative destruction.'"
“Bain, at times, engaged in behavior where they looted a company,” former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said at a debate Sunday. Texas Gov. Rick Perry followed that up by likening private equity firms to “vultures” that feast on companies, collecting profits for themselves while issuing pink slips to workers....
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/...
Hearsay. Define "true venture capitalist".
"Looted" companies? Lol! How is it possible to "loot" what you own? Does one "loot" their checking account to pay their mortgage?
Give it a rest.

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Yellow Dawg Democrat wrote:
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They don't call me "Yellow Dawg Democrat" for nothin'.
Yes... for nothin'.

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<quoted text> ... Romney didn't lose. The United States lost. Wait and see.
False! Romney lost. And with the "attitude" which Mitt and "Queen Ann" had, America WON! As plain as the nose on your face.

You must be a rich boy, to think that Romney would have been good for America. Next thing you know, he would be bankrupting Mississippi, and selling it off to China.

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Oh, I forgot to mention... nay, repeat:
Romney left Bain Capital two years BEFORE GST filed for bankruptcy. Your timeline holds no water for blaming Romney.
ROFL! Look it up! Either your are wrong, or Romney lied when he filed papers with the feds. In either case, the US needs fewer liars, not more.

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Hearsay. Define "true venture capitalist".
"Looted" companies? Lol! How is it possible to "loot" what you own? Does one "loot" their checking account to pay their mortgage?
Give it a rest.
Ask the "venture capitalists," who said Romney was not one of them.

"True venture capitalists" raise money to help businesses succeed. Romney raised money to buy companies and to loot them.

It is clear you don't understand business, or accounting.

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Yes... for nothin'.
That doesn't make any sense, but I did not expect anything you say to make any sense.

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Yellow Dawg Democrat wrote:
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False! Romney lost. And with the "attitude" which Mitt and "Queen Ann" had, America WON! As plain as the nose on your face.
You must be a rich boy, to think that Romney would have been good for America. Next thing you know, he would be bankrupting Mississippi, and selling it off to China.
Yes, it is as plain as you state: the past four years are indicative of the next four.

Empty hyperbole doesn't make you any more convincing.

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ROFL! Look it up! Either your are wrong, or Romney lied when he filed papers with the feds. In either case, the US needs fewer liars, not more.
Romney physically left Bain in February of 1999. Corporate filings came some time later. Things aren't always so cut and dry.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/07/b...

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Ask the "venture capitalists," who said Romney was not one of them.
"True venture capitalists" raise money to help businesses succeed. Romney raised money to buy companies and to loot them.
It is clear you don't understand business, or accounting.
More hearsay. Define "venture capitalist", or identify those who claim to be. I listed ten prominent companies that Bain "raised money to help them succeed". I have yet to see a clear case of ROMNEY LOOTING COMPANIES.

I've bought, grown, operated, and sold two businesses, so don't tell me what I know or don't know. The only thing that is clear is your predisposition to painting everything black or white. In reality, most everything is gray.

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I made an observation, I did not "set a deadline". Reading comprehension is not your forté, eh? As for the rest of your drivel, it holds neither merit nor value, a la "rollin".
The ‘god complex’ refers to your ridiculous demand that others obey your ‘rules’, and the mental illness refers to the fact that you violate your own rules, but being a god, you get to do that whenever you want.
You demand facts, and demand that people must shut up if they don’t post them, then sink to the level of making sick accusations of child molestation against a total stranger - instead of facts. Since you didn’t post your facts, proving the child molestation, you must be a liar, by your own twisted ‘rules‘.
You also had an unwritten deadline of two days for replies, and dictate which facts are acceptable, which evidently means, all facts must be approved by you.
Here are your contradictions, etc. in your own words.

Paparounis wrote: <quoted text>Like I said, putz... you don't get to dictate reality. Reality is what I posted, with backup documentation,
I read on the internet today that you stopped molesting the neighborhood children. Is that true? Have you stopped? I also read that child molesters cannot be cured. How did you stop?

Paparounis wrote: <quoted text>Here's a news flash: It's an open forum. You don't get to decide who can and who cannot take part in a debate. You also don't get to decide what is "fact" and what isn't.
Provide the supporting data or STFU.

Paparounis wrote: <quoted text>Gee. I'm not surprised two days later (s)he still hasn't complied with your request. I guess you need facts to comply. ;-)

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Oh, I forgot to mention... nay, repeat:
Romney left Bain Capital two years BEFORE GST filed for bankruptcy. Your timeline holds no water for blaming Romney.
Yes, people, just ignore all those little crime things Romney did, and the violation of rights of the working people, and the money hidden in other countries that benefit their economies, etc. because the Republican Party is God's chosen party.
Just you never mind why HIS party is pushing us into the one-world government we were warned about in Revelation, and the greed (worshipping the Almighty Dollar), and all the candidates with their sex/marriage problems, and ALL THOSE LIES, and the fact that the Bible calls Satan the Father of Lies, and on and on, decade after decade.
Those Republicans sure are morons. In REALITY what they really did is create a 'god' in THEIR image, one that covers up their evil.

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Hearsay. Define "true venture capitalist".
"Looted" companies? Lol! How is it possible to "loot" what you own? Does one "loot" their checking account to pay their mortgage?
Give it a rest.
A true criminal mentality, making crime legal.
Yes, we all take money out of OUR accounts that belongs to OTHERS.
No common sense at all.

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The ‘god complex’ refers to your ridiculous demand that others obey your ‘rules’, and the mental illness refers to the fact that you violate your own rules, but being a god, you get to do that whenever you want.
You demand facts, and demand that people must shut up if they don’t post them, then sink to the level of making sick accusations of child molestation against a total stranger - instead of facts. Since you didn’t post your facts, proving the child molestation, you must be a liar, by your own twisted ‘rules‘.
You also had an unwritten deadline of two days for replies, and dictate which facts are acceptable, which evidently means, all facts must be approved by you.
Here are your contradictions, etc. in your own words.
Paparounis wrote: <quoted text>Like I said, putz... you don't get to dictate reality. Reality is what I posted, with backup documentation,
I read on the internet today that you stopped molesting the neighborhood children. Is that true? Have you stopped? I also read that child molesters cannot be cured. How did you stop?
Paparounis wrote: <quoted text>Here's a news flash: It's an open forum. You don't get to decide who can and who cannot take part in a debate. You also don't get to decide what is "fact" and what isn't.
Provide the supporting data or STFU.
Paparounis wrote: <quoted text>Gee. I'm not surprised two days later (s)he still hasn't complied with your request. I guess you need facts to comply. ;-)
I posted a ridiculously extreme example of hearsay, as an illustration to "rollin" that there is a huge difference between "hearsay" and "fact". Obviously, you chose a literal interpretation, just as "rollin" would.

I demanded of "rollin" only what "rollin" demanded of everyone else; no more, no less.

... and one more time, "rollin", I made an observation. I did not attempt to set a deadline, nor did I attempt to make any "rules".

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Yes, people, just ignore all those little crime things Romney did, and the violation of rights of the working people, and the money hidden in other countries that benefit their economies, etc. because the Republican Party is God's chosen party.
Just you never mind why HIS party is pushing us into the one-world government we were warned about in Revelation, and the greed (worshipping the Almighty Dollar), and all the candidates with their sex/marriage problems, and ALL THOSE LIES, and the fact that the Bible calls Satan the Father of Lies, and on and on, decade after decade.
Those Republicans sure are morons. In REALITY what they really did is create a 'god' in THEIR image, one that covers up their evil.
"Crimes"? Who has the "God Complex" now? The last time I checked, in this country we are innocent until proven guilty, and Romney hasn't even been charged, yet it is YOU who has chosen to play "God", as legislator, judge, jury, and executioner. Good luck with that.

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A true criminal mentality, making crime legal.
Yes, we all take money out of OUR accounts that belongs to OTHERS.
No common sense at all.
Hearsay. Show us the charging documents. Show us where Mitt Romney took what belonged to others.

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Yes, it is as plain as you state: the past four years are indicative of the next four.
Empty hyperbole doesn't make you any more convincing.
Et tu!

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Romney physically left Bain in February of 1999. Corporate filings came some time later. Things aren't always so cut and dry.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/07/b...
Filing false documents to the SEC never is "always so cut and dry."

Romney initially stated that he left Bain in February 1999 to manage the Olympics. Nevertheless, Bain filed statements to the SEC, stating that Romney was CEO and sole owner, up to 2001. Further, Romney sat in on Bain board of directors meetings and made decisions at those meetings.

Will the SEC prosecute? No, because they figure they would lose, on several legal issues.

Check out this "Forbes" article:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/petercohan/2012/0...

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More hearsay. Define "venture capitalist", or identify those who claim to be. I listed ten prominent companies that Bain "raised money to help them succeed". I have yet to see a clear case of ROMNEY LOOTING COMPANIES.
I've bought, grown, operated, and sold two businesses, so don't tell me what I know or don't know. The only thing that is clear is your predisposition to painting everything black or white. In reality, most everything is gray.
You don't know shat! Except for the gray kind.

So you ran a couple of coffee shops. Big deal. I am not impressed.

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Dec 11, 2012
 
Yellow Dawg Democrat wrote:
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Filing false documents to the SEC never is "always so cut and dry."
Romney initially stated that he left Bain in February 1999 to manage the Olympics. Nevertheless, Bain filed statements to the SEC, stating that Romney was CEO and sole owner, up to 2001. Further, Romney sat in on Bain board of directors meetings and made decisions at those meetings.
Will the SEC prosecute? No, because they figure they would lose, on several legal issues.
Check out this "Forbes" article:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/petercohan/2012/0...
Romney did in fact, leave Bain Capital to manage the Olympics. Regardless of what he was or was not to Bain (on paper), he did not physically conduct any day-to-day management duties, so he cannot be held accountable for the demise of any companies in which he may have been invested. My portfolio includes BP stock. Does that make the Deepwater Horizons disaster my fault?

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