If God didn't create the universe, wh...

If God didn't create the universe, where did it come from?

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Rhett

Colorado Springs, CO

#1 Jun 11, 2008
And you can't just say that it has always been there.

Where did it come from?

God created it.

“Otter”

Since: Jan 07

Oswego, NY

#2 Jun 11, 2008
Rhett wrote:
And you can't just say that it has always been there.
Where did it come from?
God created it.
1 possibility, one I subscribe to, but not the only one.

“The orange root of all evil”

Since: Mar 08

Growing in sandy soil

#3 Jun 11, 2008
Rhett wrote:
And you can't just say that it has always been there.
Where did it come from?
God created it.
Why not?

Who are we to say that what our scientists call "the edge of the universe" is anywhere near the edge at all? What we see of the universe is still expanding, true. But just imagine that the earth represents the universe (so maybe it isn't spherical, it might be just a blob, but size wise, ya know?)

The clusters of hundreds of galaxies that we see may be the same as mere city blocks. What we call "the edge of the universe" may be no more than the cosmic equivalent of the city limits of Gary, Indiana. The true universe may be a massive ball of energized matter, suspended in the center of a void of mind boggling size. Our "universe" may be a mere flare of energy from that ball, jetted into the void for untold billions of years, only destined to finally fall back in, like a solar flare finally falls back into the sun. Again, and again, and again, and again.....

“Otter”

Since: Jan 07

Oswego, NY

#4 Jun 11, 2008
ImAnEvilCarrot wrote:
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Why not?
Who are we to say that what our scientists call "the edge of the universe" is anywhere near the edge at all? What we see of the universe is still expanding, true. But just imagine that the earth represents the universe (so maybe it isn't spherical, it might be just a blob, but size wise, ya know?)
The clusters of hundreds of galaxies that we see may be the same as mere city blocks. What we call "the edge of the universe" may be no more than the cosmic equivalent of the city limits of Gary, Indiana. The true universe may be a massive ball of energized matter, suspended in the center of a void of mind boggling size. Our "universe" may be a mere flare of energy from that ball, jetted into the void for untold billions of years, only destined to finally fall back in, like a solar flare finally falls back into the sun. Again, and again, and again, and again.....
wow, you really are an evil carrot. lol.

“The orange root of all evil”

Since: Mar 08

Growing in sandy soil

#5 Jun 12, 2008
Saranacotter wrote:
<quoted text>wow, you really are an evil carrot. lol.
Oh, I've got nothing to support that idea. Just one of those "what if's" I've wondered about from time to time.

Since: Apr 08

United States

#6 Jun 12, 2008
Rhett wrote:
And you can't just say that it has always been there.
Where did it come from?
God created it.
Who created god?
andet1987

United States

#7 Jun 13, 2008
Freemind wrote:
<quoted text>Who created god?
the type of people who created Superman, Spiderman, Batman, Ironman, are the ones who created God.

Since: Jun 08

Brooklyn, NY

#8 Jun 13, 2008
Rhett wrote:
And you can't just say that it has always been there.
Where did it come from?
God created it.
spontaneous generation had to occur, following your logic god cant exist either because he cant have always been there...
Lyndi

Boca Raton, FL

#9 Jun 13, 2008
Rhett wrote:
And you can't just say that it has always been there.
Where did it come from?
God created it.
Where did God come from.
And you can't just say that "He" has always been there. He had to pop out of someplace.

wallabyedward

“A world full of hypocrites”

Since: Jul 07

Location hidden

#10 Jun 13, 2008
Lets face it, no one has any idea what the truth of anything is.

Even if the truth was once known, man with his evil and lies has used and abused that truth in order to manipulate the masses, so much so, that the truth has been lost to us all.

There is no more evidence of a God than there is of any other version of the way things began, so stop arguing and just accept there's a mystery which we'll never know the truth of.

All you'll ever have is someones supposition, but never the facts, because as I said, they've been lost to us over the millennium's through mans lies, that's if they were ever known in the first place.
Slightly Perfect

Monroe, NC

#11 Jun 13, 2008
Rhett wrote:
And you can't just say that it has always been there.
Where did it come from?
God created it.
Why can't we say it's always been here?
Lyndi

Boca Raton, FL

#12 Jun 13, 2008
Slightly Perfect wrote:
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Why can't we say it's always been here?
Because those are the rules.

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
andet1987

United States

#13 Jun 14, 2008
why are the Miss Universe contestants come from the planet Earth only ???????
correction for blind eyes

Virginia Beach, VA

#14 Jun 14, 2008
Noboby created God. God IS the Creator. If God created God then who created the God that created God that created God. It would be endless, a nonstop creation of God. God is not bound by what we are bound by, time. He is infinite and we are finite. We are restricted in everything we do based on time. From beginning to end just as God made it here on earth.

But scientist have many claims about how the earth was created and theories that support another theory that creates a fact within that theory. It's too confusing. We are too intellectual for our own good. They have every example of how it was made except what made it. They use the accretion disk theory, big bang theory, etc, etc...It was all made from matter. But can you get (creation) LIFE from matter. By no means possible can you. That leaves one other option. The Creator who made those elements possible, God Himself. Science is great and wonderful and very interesting but there aren't many absolutes in it. God created science so that we may learn from His creation. We were to be rulers over His creation but we messed that up through sin. I like science enough to know that it cannot explain God and I Love God enough to know that He can explain science. Everything is related back to God's creations.

“It's a dog's life”

Since: Jan 08

Amish Country

#15 Jun 14, 2008
Which came first...the chicken or the egg?

“The orange root of all evil”

Since: Mar 08

Growing in sandy soil

#16 Jun 14, 2008
correction for blind eyes wrote:
Noboby created God. God IS the Creator. If God created God then who created the God that created God that created God. It would be endless, a nonstop creation of God.
Exactly. That is why the god idea is so silly. The claim is that EVERYTHING had to be created by something...uh, except god, that is. Well, everything is everything. Either everything, including god, requires a creator, or it doesn't.
correction for blind eyes wrote:
It was all made from matter. But can you get (creation) LIFE from matter. By no means possible can you.
How do you know? Has all means possible been tried? We are still discovering new sciences that are possible in zero gravity. But what could happen at zero gravity at a temperature of absolute zero, deep in space, where our scientists couldn't possibly survive? Or within the "star nurseries", where matter is heated and bombarded with types of radiation we can't even measure yet. What happens out there? Could life be spontaneous? How do you know that it can't. Saying that god has to exist because mere human science can't explain otherwise is very short sighted.
poo

Richmond, Canada

#17 Jun 14, 2008
open up your eyes; this is what God has done. if you disagree, then tell me who made YOU and everyring you see.
poo

Richmond, Canada

#18 Jun 14, 2008
btw, Good isnt ALAH. nor is he Jesus. If you eathlings think you are smart enough to understand YOUR creation you truly are delusional.

“The orange root of all evil”

Since: Mar 08

Growing in sandy soil

#19 Jun 14, 2008
poo wrote:
open up your eyes; this is what God has done. if you disagree, then tell me who made YOU and everyring you see.
No one. We call it "Nature".

“It's a dog's life”

Since: Jan 08

Amish Country

#20 Jun 14, 2008
correction for blind eyes wrote:
But scientist have many claims about how the earth was created and theories that support another theory that creates a fact within that theory. It's too confusing. We are too intellectual for our own good.
Are you for real? At what point should we stop learning? With the three R's? You sound like a child who needs his mommy to take his hand and lead the way.

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