Bible is myth and folklore

Bible is myth and folklore

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Coolmind

North East, MD

#1 Mar 18, 2007
The bible was written and rewritten so many times no one can tell what was in the origional. Ehrman did a good analysis in "Misquoting Jesus" and the bible is full of misquotes, mistakes, changes etc. Some scribe added theh part about "he amound you who is without sin, cast the first stone", but Jesus never said that... the bible is nor more real than a Harry Potter book.

“Its all in the mind..or is it?”

Since: Dec 06

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#2 Mar 18, 2007
Coolmind wrote:
The bible was written and rewritten so many times no one can tell what was in the origional. Ehrman did a good analysis in "Misquoting Jesus" and the bible is full of misquotes, mistakes, changes etc. Some scribe added theh part about "he amound you who is without sin, cast the first stone", but Jesus never said that... the bible is nor more real than a Harry Potter book.
The bible as much as I don't believe in it, has an interesting history.

scout

Since: Feb 07

Foster City, CA

#3 Mar 18, 2007
Coolmind wrote:
The bible was written and rewritten so many times no one can tell what was in the origional. Ehrman did a good analysis in "Misquoting Jesus" and the bible is full of misquotes, mistakes, changes etc. Some scribe added theh part about "he amound you who is without sin, cast the first stone", but Jesus never said that... the bible is nor more real than a Harry Potter book.
Yes, there are occasional translation errors, less in the KJV, more in all others, but we have the original Hebrew and many Greek texts from the 1st Century that contain no errors.

I am familiar with the pagan critics that love to point out the texts that appear to contradict. They do not in the ancient texts.

The KJV has a few translation errors, and it has a few kooky imagination things like translating jackels into unicorns and other such things as oxen into dragons.

These are easily found in the interlinear Hebrew and Greek.

There are a couple number things in the OT that are translation errors. In one we have like 40k horses, then in another book, we have 20k horses, but it should read stables, or some such.

I hope the above helps.
The Gradient

Converse, TX

#4 Mar 18, 2007
One is neither in agreement or disagreement, however, you might need a bit more evidence/ideals then what has been thus far presented.
metoo

Milford, DE

#5 Mar 18, 2007
if no one can tell what was in the original, how do you know what Jesus said or didnt say?

but here's a tidbit for ya, ever hear of the Dead Sea Scrolls? kinda blows your theory outta the water doesnt it?
Coolmind wrote:
The bible was written and rewritten so many times no one can tell what was in the origional. Ehrman did a good analysis in "Misquoting Jesus" and the bible is full of misquotes, mistakes, changes etc. Some scribe added theh part about "he amound you who is without sin, cast the first stone", but Jesus never said that... the bible is nor more real than a Harry Potter book.

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#6 Mar 18, 2007
Coolmind wrote:
The bible was written and rewritten so many times no one can tell what was in the origional. Ehrman did a good analysis in "Misquoting Jesus" and the bible is full of misquotes, mistakes, changes etc. Some scribe added theh part about "he amound you who is without sin, cast the first stone", but Jesus never said that... the bible is nor more real than a Harry Potter book.
Come on, the Bible vs Harry? I will bet my salvation on the Bible.

“Knowledge is true opinion”

Since: Mar 07

Chesapeake, VA

#7 Mar 18, 2007
metoo wrote:
if no one can tell what was in the original, how do you know what Jesus said or didnt say?
but here's a tidbit for ya, ever hear of the Dead Sea Scrolls? kinda blows your theory outta the water doesnt it?
<quoted text>
Are you saying the dead sea scrolls quote Jesus?
HipGnosis

Columbia, SC

#8 Mar 18, 2007
The sad thing is, where would we be without our myths and folklore? They inform and define our hopes and dreams, and enrich our lives. The problem comes when we tell them so much we get to believing they're actually true and precious. From there it' an easy step to insisting that they represent factual realities - then all manner of tomfoolery ensues, and here we are.......
HipGnosis

Columbia, SC

#9 Mar 18, 2007
metoo wrote:
if no one can tell what was in the original, how do you know what Jesus said or didnt say?
but here's a tidbit for ya, ever hear of the Dead Sea Scrolls? kinda blows your theory outta the water doesnt it?
<quoted text>
so you got an older copy of the same document - what does that prove except we been telling the same myth for a provable amount of time?
metoo

Milford, DE

#10 Mar 18, 2007
no. he was referring to the bible, which, comes from the Dead Sea Scrolls.
JustWow wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you saying the dead sea scrolls quote Jesus?
metoo

Milford, DE

#11 Mar 18, 2007
proves that you think it is a myth i guess. i think otherwise.
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>so you got an older copy of the same document - what does that prove except we been telling the same myth for a provable amount of time?

“100% Princess”

Since: Jan 07

and totally harmless

#12 Mar 18, 2007
I believe that the Bible is the inspired Word of God. As to differences in some of the Gospels, if there were 6 people watching a particular event and each wrote down what happened from his own viewpoint--each one would be different. That doesn't mean wrong, it means different. Someone notices one thing but not another.
Mark in McHenry

Cary, IL

#13 Mar 18, 2007
Totally agree with original post. Myth and folklore extraordinaire. A belief in the veracity of the Bible is not necessarily a prerequisite for a belief in God. Muslims believe in the veracity of the Koran, but I doubt you would find a believing Christian who would accept those writings as the Absolute Word of God. To do so would obviate most of what they believe.

That's the problem I have with all organized religions, beyond their penchant for bloodlust past and present. Everybody says they have the ultimate Truth, but everybody believes something different. It does not take exceptional powers in logic to see the problem there. It's all mumbo-jumbo, none of which is necessary to an abiding belief in a universal God and a commensurate belief that it would be better to respect and not destroy Creation, including each other, rather than go on like the sublime idiots that we are.

MIM
HipGnosis

Columbia, SC

#14 Mar 18, 2007
Hitesrunprincess wrote:
I believe that the Bible is the inspired Word of God. As to differences in some of the Gospels, if there were 6 people watching a particular event and each wrote down what happened from his own viewpoint--each one would be different. That doesn't mean wrong, it means different. Someone notices one thing but not another.
the contardictions in the work you reference are not just garden variety different details of the same story. They're actual contradictions in testimony and assertion. That doesn't make the Bible any less important a document but a spade is a spade.

scout

Since: Feb 07

Foster City, CA

#15 Mar 18, 2007
Hitesrunprincess wrote:
I believe that the Bible is the inspired Word of God. As to differences in some of the Gospels, if there were 6 people watching a particular event and each wrote down what happened from his own viewpoint--each one would be different. That doesn't mean wrong, it means different. Someone notices one thing but not another.
Yes, but not different in essence, but recorded at different points in time. Everything recorded was selected for recording by Christ. This is true throughout the Bible.

“"God Operates ALL in ALL"”

Since: Jan 07

LA

#16 Mar 18, 2007
Coolmind wrote:
The bible was written and rewritten so many times no one can tell what was in the origional. Ehrman did a good analysis in "Misquoting Jesus" and the bible is full of misquotes, mistakes, changes etc. Some scribe added theh part about "he amound you who is without sin, cast the first stone", but Jesus never said that... the bible is nor more real than a Harry Potter book.
before the bible was written and rewritten, it was spoken around and shared by so many and changed over time, added to and taken away from and all those wondeful things we know happens in life with any story. now, just imagine this happing over a period of hundreds of years....yeah, you got the point. then, they put it into one language, tranlated it to yet another and and on and on. they decide to keep some, burn other parts and then create even more ideas to add. it is partly based on history and partly based on myth. just like the divencie code. i am not sure how much harry potter has to do with actual history but then again, i never read that book and only watched one of the movies. however, i would say the magic in harry potter is no different than the magic in the bible, both are fake.

“Its all in the mind..or is it?”

Since: Dec 06

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#17 Mar 19, 2007
metoo wrote:
if no one can tell what was in the original, how do you know what Jesus said or didnt say?
but here's a tidbit for ya, ever hear of the Dead Sea Scrolls? kinda blows your theory outta the water doesnt it?
<quoted text>
The contents of the dead sea scrols where done by biased people, they still haven't released all their findings in fear people will leave the Chirstian faith. Like the mention of rencarnation suposedely not mentioned in the bible, is there in the scrols.

“Its all in the mind..or is it?”

Since: Dec 06

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#18 Mar 19, 2007
beijair wrote:
<quoted text>before the bible was written and rewritten, it was spoken around and shared by so many and changed over time, added to and taken away from and all those wondeful things we know happens in life with any story. now, just imagine this happing over a period of hundreds of years....yeah, you got the point. then, they put it into one language, tranlated it to yet another and and on and on. they decide to keep some, burn other parts and then create even more ideas to add. it is partly based on history and partly based on myth. just like the divencie code. i am not sure how much harry potter has to do with actual history but then again, i never read that book and only watched one of the movies. however, i would say the magic in harry potter is no different than the magic in the bible, both are fake.
Be carefull!!!... so the almighty doesn't use his wrath on you...LOL. Just kidding.
bobbito drakonious

Fredericksburg, VA

#19 Mar 19, 2007
Cherokee wrote:
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Be carefull!!!... so the almighty doesn't use his wrath on you...LOL. Just kidding.
God doesn't punish. at lease know something about the subject ur making fun of. being aethist comes with being smart...LOL...just kidding.
Pauline

Goderich, Canada

#20 Mar 19, 2007
Cherokee wrote:
<quoted text>
Be carefull!!!... so the almighty doesn't use his wrath on you...LOL. Just kidding.
Have you ever noticed , the non believers are the first ones to fall on their knees when trouble strikes! That's the beauty of freedom of choice!
I know the Bible is very real to me! I have seen many miracles! Miracles that even Physicians can not explain! They also believe in a higher power!
Some people are more vocal about their religion!
I prefer to believe "HE" is there in your hour of need! I am happy, knowing that "HE" guides me on the right path, and doing the "Lords" work has it's own reward! Have a great day!

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