Hiroshima was WRONG!
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#214 Aug 27, 2013
uIdiotRaceMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>no nations ever gone that route but what our US did!
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True.

The United States was the first nation to build atomic bombs.

The former Soviet Union built their first atomic bomb back in 1949.

Right after the Soviet Union built & tested their first atomic bomb, the United States federal government came to an agreement with the Soviet Unions left wing communist dictatorship.---- That they wouldn't use atomic bombs.

That a "balance of terror" existed.

After 1949, several other nations built atomic bombs.---- France, China, India, Pakistan & South Africa (South Africa dismantled their atomic bombs back in 1993).

The governments of France, China, India, Pakistan & South Africa have also pledged to not use atomic bombs.

The governments of France, China, India, Pakistan & South Africa have also (Still are) been adherents of the "balance of terror".
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#215 Aug 27, 2013
UdiotRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
The Japanese were almost defeated and ready to surrender.
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NOT true.

In late July, 1945.---- The United States federal government sent out (Yet another) ultimatum to the Empire of Imperial Fascist Japan. To surrender.

Japans government refused. Refused, yet again.

In early August, 1945.---- Japan had a VERY sizeable armed forces.

The atomic bombs saved MANY Allied lives.

The atomic bombs saved many American, Chinese, Filipino, British, Canadian, Australian & New Zealander lives.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#216 Aug 27, 2013
UidiotRace ---- Here are estimates of casualty figures. Had the United States not used the atomic bombs.

Had the United States launched an amphibious invasion of mainland Japan.----

1. The United States Secretary of war back then, Henry Stimson estimated that had the United States launched an amphibious invasion of mainland Japan.

The mopping up operations against the Japanese army, navy, airforce & militia resistance.---

1.7 million to 4 million American casualties.

With 400,000 to 800,000 American fatalities.

5 million to 10 million Japanese fatalities.

2. Kyle Palmer, who was the war correspondent for the Los Angeles Times back then. The United States former president, Herbert Hoover.----

Both Kyle & Herbert forecasted 500,000 to 1,000,000 American casualties.

3. Many American Generals forecasted that in the first 90 days of the invasion of Japan.----

At least 456,000 American casualties.

With at least 109,000 Americans being dead or missing.

If the invasion would have taken another 90 days (Which was very likely), the casualty rate would be this.----

1,000,000 American casualties. With 267,000 American fatalities.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#217 Aug 27, 2013
UidiotRace ----- To show the VERY sizeable Japanese armed forces strength.----

On August 1, 1945, 5 days before the first atomic bomb was dropped on Japan.----

Japanese armed forces strength right near the beaches where American & other Allied soldiers were due to land at.---

At least 65 Japanese army divisions.

This comprised of at least 900,000 Japanese soldiers.

These Japanese soldiers were very well armed, motivated & fanatical.

At least 3 Japanese tank brigades.

At least 10,290 Japanese airplanes.

At least 100 Japanese midget submarines.

At least 250 Japanese Kairyu class midget submarines.

At least 1,000 Japanese Kaiten manned torpedoes.

At least 800 Japanese Shinyo suicide boats.

It was forecasted that the Japanese Kamikaze attacks ALONE would sink more than 400 American transport ships.

That 1/3 to 1/2 of Americas invasion force would be sunk BEFORE its landing.

So, the United States dropping the atomic bombs on Japan was TOTALLY justified.

Most of all, it SAVED American & other Allied lives.

It also saved Japanese lives in the long run.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#218 Aug 27, 2013
UidiotRace ---- Your one previous statement to me here.----

You said "The Japanese were almost defeated".----

Nope.

The government of the Empire of Imperial Fascist Japan was still holding out. Still holding on.

It was because of Japans VERY extensive biological weapons stockpile.

Japan was working on a "dirty bomb".

As late as July, 1945, Japan was still a VERY grave threat to the United States & other Allied military personnel. Japan was still a very grave threat to civilians who lived in Hawaii & in the continental United States.

These were the reasons why Japan was still a VERY grave threat.----

1. Japan had a very extensive biological weapons program.

2. Japan had a very extensive biological weapons stockpile.

3. Japan was working on a "dirty bomb".

4. In late July, 1945, Japan was very close with achieving a breakthrough with building a dirty bomb.

5. Japan could have delivered their biological weapons &/or dirty bombs to Hawaii or to the continental United States via their long range balloons.

6. Japan could have delivered their biological weapons &/or dirty bombs to Hawaii or to the continental United States via their Kawanishi H6K long range seaplanes.

7. Japan could have delivered their biological weapons &/or dirty bombs to Hawaii or to the continental United States via their Kawanishi H8K long range seaplanes.

8. Japan could have delivered their biological weapons &/or dirty bombs to Hawaii or to the continental United States via their Type B1 (I-15 series) aircraft carrying submarines.

9. Japan could have delivered their biological weapons &/or dirty bombs to Hawaii or to the continental United States via their Sen Toku I-400-class aircraft carrying submarines.

So, even as late as late July, 1945, Japan was NOT "almost" defeated.

Japan was still a VERY grave threat to American & other Allied military personnel.

Even as late as late July, 1945, Japan was still a VERY grave threat to the civilians in Hawaii & in the continental United States.

RFD

Oakland, CA

#219 Oct 11, 2013
Johnny wrote:
<quoted text>
__________

The United States was the first nation to build atomic bombs.
It was a collaboration, Johnny. It might have been built in the U.S, but not created alone by American ingenuity.
Your statement there is in line with "We [U.S] won the war."
RFD

Oakland, CA

#220 Oct 11, 2013
Johnny wrote:
So, the United States dropping the atomic bombs on Japan was TOTALLY justified.
Most of all, it SAVED American & other Allied lives.
It also saved Japanese lives in the long run.
Sadly, due to 'mind conditioning' many people do not realize that and many other things.
RFD

Oakland, CA

#221 Oct 11, 2013
US are Warring Savages wrote:
<quoted text>u got JAP
I Like JAP motorcycles.
RFD

Oakland, CA

#222 Oct 11, 2013
US are Warring Savages wrote:
<quoted text> If you look at China landscape , Japanese did not curve up alot of China land, you BS... better redo your post, you have holes in your debates! Stop making up some of it. You clueless about China history , let alone understand other nations. Better look at your holes! BWHAHAHAHAHAa
U have holes in your arguments
I see you!...You are somali pirate in hiding!
RFD

Oakland, CA

#223 Oct 11, 2013
Johnny wrote:
<quoted text>
__________
Yes, this did happen. Tragically so.
The United States federal government did make monetary restitution & compensation to the Japanese who were affected by the World War 2 relocation.
Actually, many thousands of German-Americans & Italian-Americans were also rounded up & placed in internment camps.
But, the German-Americans & Italian-Americans who were rounded up & placed in these internment camps.---- They haven't, neither have their family members received any form of restitution or compensation from the federal government.
Not much story told about the the German-Americans & Italian-Americans either.
Doctor REALITY

Conway, AR

#224 Oct 11, 2013
Doctor REALITY wrote:
http://politix.topix.com/homep age/7351-did-the-us-do-right-o r-wrong-in-dropping-the-atomic -bomb-on-Hiroshima Dropping those bombs on all of those INNOCENT men, women, and children was WRONG! It was COWARDLY and EVIL! If America was angry because of the attacks on Pearl Harbor, it should have went after the Japanese military, not INNOCENT CIVILIANS! And you wonder why America was hated so much that wahabi extremists came to America and murdered three thousand people in less than two hours with hijacked jets!
America is one of the most hated nations on earth because of the arrogance and greed that has always tried to force it's will upon others. But let me tell you something, America, even though the September 11th hijackers were some of the most evil cowards of all time, they kicked America's rearend in a way that no nation had ever been kicked before by religious extremists. And many INNOCENT PEOPLE died that day, because of the hatred that had built up...for America
Doctor REALITY

Conway, AR

#225 Oct 11, 2013
I wonder if the Pearl Harbor suicide pilots were hoping for forgiveness of sins and virgins and stuff as well.

An NFL Fan

“Brevity is the soule of wit”

Since: May 09

USA

#226 Oct 12, 2013
Doctor REALITY wrote:
I wonder if the Pearl Harbor suicide pilots were hoping for forgiveness of sins and virgins and stuff as well.
There weren't suicide pilots at Pearl, dullard, but thanks for proving your ignorance.
Doctor REALITY

Conway, AR

#227 Oct 12, 2013
An NFL Fan wrote:
<quoted text>
There weren't suicide pilots at Pearl, dullard, but thanks for proving your ignorance.
Japanese fighterjet pilots slammed their planes into American ships, DING BAT. If you only had a brain...

An NFL Fan

“Brevity is the soule of wit”

Since: May 09

USA

#228 Oct 12, 2013
Doctor REALITY wrote:
<quoted text>Japanese fighterjet pilots slammed their planes into American ships, DING BAT. If you only had a brain...
No, they did NOT do that at Pearl, ignorant creep. That didn't happen until the American Navy attacked the Philippines.
It's always fun to play with an ignorant chew toy, and you're it, fool.

An NFL Fan

“Brevity is the soule of wit”

Since: May 09

USA

#229 Oct 12, 2013
Doctor REALITY wrote:
<quoted text>Japanese fighterjet pilots slammed their planes into American ships, DING BAT. If you only had a brain...
figherjets?

Please tell me you don't believe the Japanese operated 'fighterjets'
in WW2. You're as dumb as they get, aren't you?
Doctor REALITY

Conway, AR

#230 Oct 12, 2013
An NFL Fan wrote:
<quoted text>
figherjets?
Please tell me you don't believe the Japanese operated 'fighterjets'
in WW2. You're as dumb as they get, aren't you?
O.K., DUFUS, I forgot the jet age hadn't arrived. But still doesn't change the REALITY that you need a REAL brain: http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1740.html

An NFL Fan

“Brevity is the soule of wit”

Since: May 09

USA

#231 Oct 12, 2013
Doctor REALITY wrote:
<quoted text>O.K., DUFUS, I forgot the jet age hadn't arrived. But still doesn't change the REALITY that you pages/h1740.html
Oh jeez, now I feel MUCH better about your flabby intellect, stooge.

You 'forgot' basic WW2 history? The Germans used jets at the time, but that's beyond your understanding, isn't it, dullard?
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#232 Oct 13, 2013
RFD wrote:
<quoted text>
It was a collaboration, Johnny. It might have been built in the U.S, but not created alone by American ingenuity.
__________

True, the Manhattan Project was a collaboration.

Yes, without European born physicists. Especially European Jewish physicists coming to the United States.

Mainly Albert Einstein, Lise Meitner, Niels Bohr, Leo Szilard, Hans Bethe, Edward Teller, & Stanislaw Ulam coming to the United States. Providing very critical work on the Manhattan Project, the United States would never have been able to have tested their first atomic bomb by July, 1945.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#233 Oct 13, 2013
RFD wrote:
<quoted text>
Sadly, due to 'mind conditioning' many people do not realize that and many other things.
__________

Oh, most Americans truly do feel that the United States dropping the 2 atomic bombs on Japan was necessary. That it saved Allied (Especially American) lives in the long run.

Even many (If not most) liberals & leftists don't openly say much in the line of criticism of the United States dropping the atomic bombs on Japan.

This is why.----- Since Japans government back then was far Right wing.

Japans government was VERY vehemently opposed to liberals & leftists.

Japans government was a far Right wing Pseudo Fascist dictatorship.

Japans government was Asias equivalent of Nazi Germany.

Since Japans government was a far Right wing Pseudo Fascist dictatorship, it was aligned with Europes Nazi Germany.

These are the reasons why many (If not most) liberals & leftists aren't that critical of the United States dropping the atomic bombs on Japan.

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