“ IT'S A CHOICE !!!”

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#564 Feb 16, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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Oh! I almost forgot, the rose colour meanings, I only know a few and was wondering if you knew the rest, it's pretty old.
White = Pure love, like the love we feel for God and His Son (my Hero) and vice versa.
Red = Romantic love
Yellow = Friendship love
Royal blue = Family in Christ love
Baby Pink = A mother's love
Dark Pink = A father's love (I think but not sure it could be black)
Did you happen to see the strawberry moon last year? I don't know where you're from...there's a NASA report on it.
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-...
It's an interesting read <3
Yes, I did... I remember exactly where I was too! Lol

Since: Dec 12

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#565 Feb 16, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
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Yes, I did... I remember exactly where I was too! Lol
You saw it? What was it like, I mean was it different from the video? That's amazing, you're so Blessed!
andet1987

Chicago, IL

#566 Feb 16, 2013
no we are not. i have heard that the universe is expanding.

in our solar system, it only ends if the sun has no more power.

i am sure the greedy Bush family will use the solar power if all the middle east oil will be depleted.

Since: Aug 11

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#567 Feb 16, 2013
Senecus wrote:
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Hi WW,
In my post to Juicylu above , I give a brief explanation,I'll expand a little.
Yes, some see it as their "redemption drawing nigh...". In one case, it would be 2/3 of the Jews in Israel,an extrapolation of Zech.13:8. This actually did happen though ,in 70 A.D.(C.E.),when the Romans under Titus destroyed the temple and much of Jerusalem.
But to a 'futurist' it would be modern day Jerusalem and the Jews therein. In some respects it's anti-Semetic. Here you have today ministries (such as John Hagee's) seeking to relocate Jews from various parts of the world to Israel, only to be killed in a future holocaust while you ride the 'glory train'(rapture) to heaven! It's warped. As a Christian one would want to introduce a Jew to his 'rightful Saviour'- not use him as a token to "move God's hand" ever closer to some "endtime scenario" ,which is of recent (last 150 yrs.) and of dubious origin, not a historical Church view.
In a previous post you mention the Bible being allegorical. And actually some parts are, particularly the 'prophetic''books'. And this is where many have become derailed by hyper-literalising that which never should have been.
I pretty much agree with the things you are saying here.
Sharkey

United States

#569 Feb 16, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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The Bible says that Satan will continue in his rebellion against God until the very end. Near the end, a "beast" (world ruler) will arise from the "sea" (the gentile nations), having been given power by Satan to perform signs and wonders for the world.27 In addition, a false prophet, a religious leader empowered by Satan will deceive people into worshipping him.28 The beast and the false prophet will convince the leaders of the earth to follow them into war against God and His people.29 However, the armies of the leaders of the world will be destroyed at the battle of Armageddon and the beast and false prophet will be thrown into the Lake of Fire.30 At this point, Satan will be locked up for 1,000 years,31 while Jesus Christ rules the earth with His saints.32 At the end of that period, Satan is released for a short period of time, deceives the leaders of the world again, and convinces them to attack Jesus and His rule on the earth.33 The battle is short as fire from heaven consumes the rebels. Satan is then thrown into the Lake of Fire (hell) to "be tormented day and night for ever and ever."33 Following Satan's demise, the saints of Jesus Christ will judge the angels who joined him in rebellion.34
Overcoming Satan
The apostle John says that believers can overcome Satan when "the word of God abides in you."35 When Jesus was tempted by Satan, He cited scripture to him (Matthew 4:1-1036). In addition, Paul tells us that the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God, is our only offensive weapon against the Satan (Ephesians 6:13-1737). In the parable of the sower, Jesus said that there were those who heard the word of God, but failed to take it in, and so were led astray by the devil (the seed that fell by the side of the road).38 So Christians resist the devil by knowing and memorizing scripture so that we cannot be deceived by the lies of Satan.21 The Bible gives believers the following instructions about resisting the devil:
Submit therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.(James 4:7)
"In your anger do not sin": Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry, and do not give the devil a foothold.(Ephesians 4:26-27)
In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one.(Ephesians 6:16)
Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. But resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same experiences of suffering are being accomplished by your brethren who are in the world.(1 Peter 5:8-9)
Conclusion
Satan is often comically portrayed as a guy in a red devil suit. He probably likes it this way, since most people (including Christians) are apt to disbelieve in his existence. As a "non-existent" force in people's lives, satan is free to influence them without being discovered as the cause of many of their problems. However, the Bible says that satan is a beautiful and powerful fallen angel, who would like to do nothing more than take away the joy of Christians through deception, and lead people into rebellion against God. Although satan is destined for the Lake of Fire, biblical prophecy indicates that he will deceive entire nations and kingdoms before he is relegated to eternal damnation, along with the other fallen angels he led into rebellion against God.
Jesus replied, "I saw satan fall like lightning from heaven. I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven." (Luke 10:18-20)
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http://www.godandscience.org/doctrine/who_is_...
It is now time to THROW OUT THE BIBLE and REPLACE IT with THE NEW 21ST CENTURY TESTAMENT OF HUMANKIND where within God acknowlegdes his Satan within himself!
Sharkey

United States

#570 Feb 16, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
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Excellent Post...:)
Yes, of course it is quite excellent for propogaging the very Armegeddon you are all warning will happen.
It is quite excellent as a tool to help humankind commit the biggest mass murder-suicide in the history of the universe.
It is quite excellent as proof that we human beings are a self-extincting species and have written a manifesto to do so.

That manifesto is the Bible.

THE BIBLE IS A MANIFESTO FOR HUMANKIND TO SELF-EXTINCT.

WE ARE KILLING OURSELVES WITH THIS BIBLE.

WE ARE MAKING OUR OWN SPECIES EXTINCT WITH THIS BIBLE.

WE ARE COMMITTING SUICIDE WITH THIS BIBLE.

I weep for the human race that we are so naive, gullible, and stupid that we will bullsh!t ourselves right into self-extinction.

Maybe humans ARE too stupid to live.
Sharkey

United States

#571 Feb 16, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
Jesus Foretells Destruction of the Temple
24 Jesus left the temple and was going away, when his disciples came to point out to him the buildings of the temple. 2 But he answered them,“You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.”
Signs of the End of the Age
3 As he sat on vthe Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying,“Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” 4 And Jesus answered them,“See that no one leads you astray. 5 For many will come in my name, saying,‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray. 6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you dare not alarmed, for this must take place, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are but the beginning of the birth pains.
9 “Then they will deliver you up kto tribulation and lput you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for my name's sake. 10 And then many will fall away and betray one another and hate one another. 11 And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. 12 And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But the one who endures to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
The Abomination of Desolation
15 “So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let the one who is on athe housetop not go down to take what is in his house, 18 and let the one who is in the field not turn back to take his cloak. 19 And alas for women who are pregnant and for those who are nursing infants in those days! 20 Pray that your flight may not be in winter or on a Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. 22 And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. 23 Then if anyone says to you,‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you beforehand. 26 So, if they say to you,‘Look, he is in the wilderness,’ do not go out. If they say,‘Look, he is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be mthe coming of the Son of Man. 28 Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.
The Coming of the Son of Man
29 “Immediately after othe tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then tall the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And whe will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
"Man will make nuclear weapons with his own hands and detonate them, causing the sun to appear darkened because mankind has caused its own death! The clouds of heaven opened up because HUMANKIND HAS KILLED ITSELF IN AN ARMEGEDDON THAT IT BROUGHT UPON ITSELF BY ITS OWN HAND."
Quit using this bible. Stop instigating Armegeddon, you MURDERER! KILLER! SINNER!!
Largelanguage

Wrexham, UK

#572 Feb 16, 2013
The apocalypse will happen.
Sharkey

United States

#573 Feb 16, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
The apocalypse will happen.
Yeah..because we humas will make D@MN SURE it does!
That's why we have nukes! WE will apocolyps OURSELVES, BY OUR OWN HAND.
HOMO SAPIENS ARE SUICIDAL.
HOMO SAPIENS ARE SCHIZOPHRENIC NUTS.
Gee...no wonder we dream of an armegeddon - being human IS VERY miserable. I see why our species has such a death wish.

You bible beaters have helped make the world a hellish place to live in, with all your own infighting and division that will bring on the very armegeddon you're crying about!

SMH...humans.
Sharkey

United States

#574 Feb 16, 2013
Everybody here needs to SHUT UP about armegeddon!
Or you'll bring it on yourself, BY yourself!
SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP about armegeddon!
TALK about UTOPIA! UTOPIA! UTOPIA!
TALKING ABOUT ARMEGEDDON will MAKE ARMEGEDDON HAPPEN.

WORDS ARE POWERFUL.

WE ARE TALKING OURSELVES RIGHT INTO ARMEGEDDON.

SHUT UP.
SHUT UP.
SHUT UP.

TALK ABOUT UTOPIA.
TALK ABOUT HOW HUMANS ARE CAPABLE OF PEACE.

SHUT UP ABOUT ARMEGEDDON.
OTHERWISE YOUR WORDS MAKE YOU MURDERERS.
SHUT UP MURDERERS.
SHUT.
UP.
YOU ARE INSTIGATING ARMEGEDON. YOU ARE ADVOCATING MASS MURDER AND SUICIDE.
YOU ARMEGEDDON INSTIGATORS ARE A BUNCH OF SUICIDAL SICKOS.

“Cleaning Up Christianity ”

Since: Jan 13

Topix Badlands

#576 Feb 16, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
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Yes, sometimes playing both side I'm afraid... usually doesn't work...:(
Exactly. And being the nice guy and kissing butt so both sides think one is wonderful is denying Christ. We are to deny all others that need be for His Name Sake.

“ IT'S A CHOICE !!!”

Since: Jun 12

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#577 Feb 16, 2013
Janitor Of The LORD wrote:
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Exactly. And being the nice guy and kissing butt so both sides think one is wonderful is denying Christ. We are to deny all others that need be for His Name Sake.


Amen Sister... I have a beautiful song for you!
It's words are powerful, & one of my favorites...



xoxoxo

“ Xue Rengui”

Since: Oct 09

Khitan extraordinaire

#578 Feb 16, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
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Yes, sometimes playing both side I'm afraid... usually doesn't work...:(
How so? Because I don't jump on someone's bandwagon?

Or I don't hold to a particular view (which isn't necessarily a majority or historical,for that matter) and seek to create dialog with those who may understand a position I take, but aren't theists?

Why not just ask me why I do what I do, don't ass-u-me.

Who did Jesus rub shoulders with the most?

Com'on Angel, what are you here for? Do you think what goes on at WINLAC is REALLY doing anything to advance the Gospel, really now? With guys claiming Christ asking women if they shave their pubic region or have an 'air-strip', and other sexual laced innuendos? Think Jesus would have asked such of Mary Magdalene?

Look, "End Times" -ahem- Eschatology is NOT cast in stone, and I'll venture to say all most posting here know about it is NOT from personal Bible study, but what they read or heard a 'popular' preacher "teach", in other words just regurgitated pap of someone else.

Not looking to have contention, but this is a personal interest of mine , the main reason I came to Topix some 4 yrs ago now(to dispel Harold Camping's datesetting), and in the course of study have found the 'popular' endtime view quite erroneous. And I'm not alone in that assessment.

If you'd like to dialog about it I'm more than will, and enjoy it:)

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#580 Feb 16, 2013
Senecus wrote:
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How so? Because I don't jump on someone's bandwagon?
Or I don't hold to a particular view (which isn't necessarily a majority or historical,for that matter) and seek to create dialog with those who may understand a position I take, but aren't theists?
Why not just ask me why I do what I do, don't ass-u-me.
Who did Jesus rub shoulders with the most?
Com'on Angel, what are you here for? Do you think what goes on at WINLAC is REALLY doing anything to advance the Gospel, really now? With guys claiming Christ asking women if they shave their pubic region or have an 'air-strip', and other sexual laced innuendos? Think Jesus would have asked such of Mary Magdalene?
Look, "End Times" -ahem- Eschatology is NOT cast in stone, and I'll venture to say all most posting here know about it is NOT from personal Bible study, but what they read or heard a 'popular' preacher "teach", in other words just regurgitated pap of someone else.
Not looking to have contention, but this is a personal interest of mine , the main reason I came to Topix some 4 yrs ago now(to dispel Harold Camping's datesetting), and in the course of study have found the 'popular' endtime view quite erroneous. And I'm not alone in that assessment.
If you'd like to dialog about it I'm more than will, and enjoy it:)
The "end time" comes to us all. Rarely more than 100 years away.

"Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient to the day is the evil thereof." - Jesus

“ Xue Rengui”

Since: Oct 09

Khitan extraordinaire

#581 Feb 16, 2013
Janitor Of The LORD wrote:
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Exactly. And being the nice guy and kissing butt so both sides think one is wonderful is denying Christ. We are to deny all others that need be for His Name Sake.
Hello Janitor, problem too? Talk to me ,sister, I'm "all ears". Read my response above to Angel (LS).

Again, if someone who may not "be a believer" understands a Biblical precept I'll commend them. That's not an endorsement of their condition as a whole, but creating dialog.

Should I go to WINLAC and "slam those stinkin' retched atheists" - yeah, that goes real far.
I've been on or followed WINLAC for a few years now, most of those 'atheist' are better read and versed than the wild yahoo 'believers' that frequent the place. No indictment of you, just what one would see with observation over time.

You and others don't know what goes on 'behind the scenes', some go one-on-one through tmail,email or FaceBook to dialog with others about the Gospel. So please don't assume,I seek dialog and keep the 'door open'- so,if you want to know something, come in and chat;)

Why in His name do we have to shoot each other over "in house" debates?

“ Xue Rengui”

Since: Oct 09

Khitan extraordinaire

#582 Feb 16, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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The "end time" comes to us all. Rarely more than 100 years away.
"Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient to the day is the evil thereof." - Jesus
Hey Duane! Thanks for coming, and correct(to the chagrin of some brethren)-we will be translated by death.

Going to the stake here, wonder if I'll get a chapter in "Fox's Book of Martyrs"....

(smiles)
comeonman

Voorhees, NJ

#583 Feb 16, 2013
the bible doesn't even say there is an end of the world in it..

heaven and hell happen immediately

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#584 Feb 16, 2013
Senecus wrote:
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Hey Duane! Thanks for coming, and correct(to the chagrin of some brethren)-we will be translated by death.
Going to the stake here, wonder if I'll get a chapter in "Fox's Book of Martyrs"....
(smiles)
Let us postulate that the "end times" are going to occur and all Hell wil break loose (literally) on Earth. It is going to happen, there is nothign we can do to prevent or change it.

So what ? I made my bed and am prepared to lay in it.

What I suspect is that many believers are afraid they have made the wrong choice and that they might be damned to eternal punishment.
If not, What kind of sadist would obsess over what horrible things are going to happen to other people ?

I believe what I believe. If that means eternal torture so be it. If the lot of "believers" had that kind of courage I would not run screaming from a religion that appears to do nothing but pretend they are superior to others and fanatize about the most horrible things inflicted on those that have different opinions.

In all fairness, I believe that Revelation, if it was a prophecy, has been fulfilled between 1914 and 1949. I also concede that it may just be the meaningless hallucinations of a hermit.

“ Xue Rengui”

Since: Oct 09

Khitan extraordinaire

#586 Feb 16, 2013
comeonman wrote:
the bible doesn't even say there is an end of the world in it..
heaven and hell happen immediately
Bingo! Another winner!

It was the "end of an Age"

“ Xue Rengui”

Since: Oct 09

Khitan extraordinaire

#587 Feb 16, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Let us postulate that the "end times" are going to occur and all Hell wil break loose (literally) on Earth. It is going to happen, there is nothign we can do to prevent or change it.
So what ? I made my bed and am prepared to lay in it.
Sure, and all the musings in the world will do nothing to prevent or minimize it, an exercise in futility.
G_O_D wrote:
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What I suspect is that many believers are afraid they have made the wrong choice and that they might be damned to eternal punishment.
In some regards I believe you suspect well. The biggie is the 'rapture train', not having their "ticket ready" and missing it. I've seen many agonize over it, as I've written countless times, those who read Edgar C. Whisenant's "88 Reasons Why the Rapture Will Be in 1988" and of course all of Camping's failures. The futurist view , in my opinion , breeds a fear that wolves use to control and devour the 'sheep'.
G_O_D wrote:
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If not, What kind of sadist would obsess over what horrible things are going to happen to other people ?
That's another side of this. You have ministries seeking to relocate Jews to Israel to 'hasten' the apocalypse(and thereby rapture- how selfish)- and only for those Jews to perish in the "Ultimate Holocaust"("Yeah, but they had it comin' to 'em" -some wag will say!). Height of antisemitism.
G_O_D wrote:
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I believe what I believe. If that means eternal torture so be it. If the lot of "believers" had that kind of courage I would not run screaming from a religion that appears to do nothing but pretend they are superior to others and fanatize about the most horrible things inflicted on those that have different opinions.
I believe many are afraid of death and want to 'cheat the Reaper'-so to speak.
If this 'end time' scenario is so 'imminent', they should be on the highways and byways alerting others, in a ,er..sane fashion....instead of role playing on Topix.
G_O_D wrote:
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In all fairness, I believe that Revelation, if it was a prophecy, has been fulfilled between 1914 and 1949. I also concede that it may just be the meaningless hallucinations of a hermit.
Why Duane ,yer soundin' like a Jehovah's Witness! They been knockin' on your door again?(LOL!)

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