Only born again Christians will go to heaven.

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SupaAFC

Edgware, UK

#1 Mar 26, 2008
I sincerely hope the OP of this thread understands that this survey is purely circumstantial seeing as heaven, let alone the Christian one, has not been proven to exist.

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#2 Mar 26, 2008
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Missionary Man

Cleveland, OH

#3 Mar 27, 2008
SupaAFC wrote:
I sincerely hope the OP of this thread understands that this survey is purely circumstantial seeing as heaven, let alone the Christian one, has not been proven to exist.
Proof? Perhaps not in the scientifically physical way that you are thinking. But also remember that evolution has not been proven either; that's why its call a theory, but I bet you believe in evolution... don't you? For those in heaven who are rejoicing at this hour, proof is no longer needed. Perhaps heaven has never been proven to you, but heaven has been proven to me. We have John the revelator's vision of heaven. We also have the Biblical promise of heaven.

David described his home in the next world as "the house of the Lord" (Psalm 23:6). When he mourned the death of his infant son, he said, "I will go to him, but he will not return to me" (2 Samuel 12:23, NIV).

Jesus' coming and the completion of the New Testament brought clear teaching about the future state of believers.

Jesus said a beggar named Lazarus died and was taken by the angels to "Abraham's side" (Luke 16:22), where he was conscious, happy and free from former troubles.

Jesus promised the dying thief a place in "paradise" (Luke 23:43), which means "a park." This suggests surroundings like the Garden of Eden, man's first home which he lost through sin. Eden means "delight" or "pleasure." Paul said he was "caught up to paradise" (2 Corinthians 12:4). This word also occurs with the promise that the overcomer will be privileged to eat from the tree of life, "which is in the paradise of God" (Revelation 2:7).

Jesus talked about His Father's house and promised there are many mansions or dwelling places there. This speaks of security, comfort and happiness. Jesus called it a place and said He would prepare it when He returned to the Father. He promised to come back and take His children to His home. Part of the purpose of His return to earth will be to ensure that every believer will be where He is (John 14:2,3). He prayed for this just hours before His crucifixion (John 17:24).

Peter said we have an inheritance which "can never perish, spoil or fade kept in heaven for you" (1 Peter 1:4).

Old Testament Israelites had blue borders on their robes to remind them they were a heavenly people. Believers today do not need an outward sign, for we have the indwelling Holy Spirit, who is "a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession" (Ephesians 1:14).

Abraham looked forward "to the city with foundations, whose architect and builder is God" (Hebrews 11:10). Old Testament saints who died in faith went to a city God had prepared for them (Hebrews 11:16).

Just before Stephen breathed his last, he looked up and cried, "I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God" (Acts 7:56).

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SupaAFC

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#4 Mar 27, 2008
Missionary Man wrote:
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blah blah blah blah
Evolution is a fact moron, stop whining about it's terminology.

And the chunks of bible passages you just quoted: sorry, don't work with me. It's like preaching Jack and the Beanstalk.

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#5 Mar 27, 2008
Missionary Man wrote:
that's why its call a theory, but I bet you believe in evolution... don't you? For those in heaven who are rejoicing at this hour, proof is no longer needed. Perhaps heaven has never been proven to you, but heaven has been proven to me. We have John the revelator's vision of heaven. We also have the Biblical promise of heaven.
The scientists studying evolution acknowledge that it's incomplete, they are the people that titled it a theory. You, on the other hand, are posting paragraphs from a book that has no basic in fact, other than the fact that it was a great achievement in penmanship.

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Since: Aug 07

Somewhere Over the Rainbow

#6 Mar 27, 2008
SupaAFC wrote:
I sincerely hope the OP of this thread understands that this survey is purely circumstantial seeing as heaven, let alone the Christian one, has not been proven to exist.
Oh for the love of mud...can't you little athiests go find a nice quiet place to discuss your nihilistic little world? What possible gratification do you derive from attacking anything even slightly spiritual. Pathetic.

“Otter”

Since: Jan 07

New York, NY

#7 Mar 27, 2008
Missionary Man wrote:
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Proof? Perhaps not in the scientifically physical way that you are thinking. But also remember that evolution has not been proven either; that's why its call a theory, but I bet you believe in evolution... don't you? For those in heaven who are rejoicing at this hour, proof is no longer needed. Perhaps heaven has never been proven to you, but heaven has been proven to me. We have John the revelator's vision of heaven. We also have the Biblical promise of heaven.
David described his home in the next world as "the house of the Lord" (Psalm 23:6). When he mourned the death of his infant son, he said, "I will go to him, but he will not return to me" (2 Samuel 12:23, NIV).
Jesus' coming and the completion of the New Testament brought clear teaching about the future state of believers.
Jesus said a beggar named Lazarus died and was taken by the angels to "Abraham's side" (Luke 16:22), where he was conscious, happy and free from former troubles.
Jesus promised the dying thief a place in "paradise" (Luke 23:43), which means "a park." This suggests surroundings like the Garden of Eden, man's first home which he lost through sin. Eden means "delight" or "pleasure." Paul said he was "caught up to paradise" (2 Corinthians 12:4). This word also occurs with the promise that the overcomer will be privileged to eat from the tree of life, "which is in the paradise of God" (Revelation 2:7).
Jesus talked about His Father's house and promised there are many mansions or dwelling places there. This speaks of security, comfort and happiness. Jesus called it a place and said He would prepare it when He returned to the Father. He promised to come back and take His children to His home. Part of the purpose of His return to earth will be to ensure that every believer will be where He is (John 14:2,3). He prayed for this just hours before His crucifixion (John 17:24).
Peter said we have an inheritance which "can never perish, spoil or fade kept in heaven for you" (1 Peter 1:4).
Old Testament Israelites had blue borders on their robes to remind them they were a heavenly people. Believers today do not need an outward sign, for we have the indwelling Holy Spirit, who is "a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession" (Ephesians 1:14).
Abraham looked forward "to the city with foundations, whose architect and builder is God" (Hebrews 11:10). Old Testament saints who died in faith went to a city God had prepared for them (Hebrews 11:16).
Just before Stephen breathed his last, he looked up and cried, "I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God" (Acts 7:56).
still the zealot of a failed Religion eh?
nora

North Richland Hills, TX

#8 Mar 27, 2008
If a Christian was born correctly the first time, why would they have to go a second round?

This poll is stupid!

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#9 Mar 27, 2008
BeeCee wrote:
<quoted text>Oh for the love of mud...can't you little athiests go find a nice quiet place to discuss your nihilistic little world? What possible gratification do you derive from attacking anything even slightly spiritual. Pathetic.
Wow, the post you replied to wasn't mean or anything, and here is your sniping response. Boy, are you the pure example of Christianity. Thanks for showing us all why us 'little athiests' believe the way we do. With insulting posts by skanks like you, who could help it? You're the pathetic one. Go light a candle and pray for your own lonely, judgmental soul.
Randy

Brooklyn, NY

#10 Mar 27, 2008
I agree with you about attacks. But, with all due respect, posting as topic entitled "Only born Again Christians Will Go to Heaven" invites contrary points of view on a topic that will likely be heated.

The exclusionary heaven dreamt of by Christians is hardly a universal construct in the world religions. In fact, as far as I am aware, Christianity is the only religion that insists that only those who believe its doctrine go to heaven. While many extremist Muslims take this position, Islamic doctrine is actually to the contrary. It is a position that non-Christians would understandably have issues with.
BeeCee wrote:
<quoted text>Oh for the love of mud...can't you little athiests go find a nice quiet place to discuss your nihilistic little world? What possible gratification do you derive from attacking anything even slightly spiritual. Pathetic.

“Life Happens”

Since: Nov 07

The Jellicle Junkyard

#11 Mar 27, 2008
BeeCee wrote:
<quoted text>Oh for the love of mud...can't you little athiests go find a nice quiet place to discuss your nihilistic little world? What possible gratification do you derive from attacking anything even slightly spiritual. Pathetic.
But...but...but...MM just makes these posts and polls as bait or seedlings, so that somebody will come fight with him. If we leave him alone, he'll have to sit and read his bible to himself and that will just make him nuttier-er.

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SupaAFC

Edgware, UK

#12 Mar 27, 2008
BeeCee wrote:
<quoted text>Oh for the love of mud...can't you little athiests go find a nice quiet place to discuss your nihilistic little world? What possible gratification do you derive from attacking anything even slightly spiritual. Pathetic.
Is this all butthurt xtians like you can do? Pull out the "we're being attacked!" card?

Kid, it's a public messageboard. I have as much right to voice my opinions as much as a theist: stop whining about it.

Since: Jan 08

Lethbridge, AB, Canada

#13 Mar 27, 2008
Can you watch rated R movies in this heaven you talk about? If not, screw that place.
Missionary Man

Cleveland, OH

#14 Mar 27, 2008
SupaAFC wrote:
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Evolution is a fact moron, stop whining about it's terminology.
And the chunks of bible passages you just quoted: sorry, don't work with me. It's like preaching Jack and the Beanstalk.
Now Jack,(as in beanstalk) why would you call me a moron? Only children call people names (or childish adults that lack manners). Are you a child? You certainly act like one. But you know that already don't you. You get some kind of a weird high when you insult people don't you. Simply because I believe in the God of the Bible and not the "theory" of evolution you call me names. Some people on these threads sure are rude.
Missionary Man

Cleveland, OH

#15 Mar 27, 2008
MPagoPago wrote:
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The scientists studying evolution acknowledge that it's incomplete, they are the people that titled it a theory. You, on the other hand, are posting paragraphs from a book that has no basic in fact, other than the fact that it was a great achievement in penmanship.
Well, you're wrong there. There have been many facts come to light through archeology. But I agree that it was a great work of penmanship. God writes beautifully doesn't He?
Missionary Man

Cleveland, OH

#16 Mar 27, 2008
Saranacotter wrote:
<quoted text>still the zealot of a failed Religion eh?
Hardly can one call it a failed religion.

Hi Saranacotter!:) Yea, still the zealous preacher trying to get the Word out there to all who will receive it. Blessings to you and your family! Hope you had a nice Easter.
Missionary Man

Cleveland, OH

#17 Mar 27, 2008
nora wrote:
If a Christian was born correctly the first time, why would they have to go a second round?
This poll is stupid!
Hi Nora. A Pharisee named Nicodemus had a similar question for Jesus. He said, "How can a man be born when he is old?" Nicodemus asked. "Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born!"

Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. You should not be surprised at my saying,'You must be born again.' The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit." (John 3:4-8 NIV)

Jesus was clear Nora. We must be born first as a babe, a physical birth. But to enter heaven, we must be born again, a spiritual birth.

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." (John 3:16 NIV)

“Life Happens”

Since: Nov 07

The Jellicle Junkyard

#18 Mar 27, 2008
Missionary Man wrote:
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Well, you're wrong there. There have been many facts come to light through archeology. But I agree that it was a great work of penmanship. God writes beautifully doesn't He?
Ok, I'll bite!:)

And those facts are?
Missionary Man

Cleveland, OH

#19 Mar 27, 2008
MPagoPago wrote:
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But...but...but...MM just makes these posts and polls as bait or seedlings, so that somebody will come fight with him. If we leave him alone, he'll have to sit and read his bible to himself and that will just make him nuttier-er.
:)
I don't want to fight with anyone. Why would you say that? I'm a preacher and a missionary, a pastor and a teacher and I enjoy sharing God's Word with anyone who will listen. I don't want to fight with anyone. I start a post like this to grab attention in hopes of someone coming into the knowledge of God through His Word. Hardly do I wish to fight with anyone. If you're not interested in what I have to say, you are free to move along. I certainly don't want to fight with you. That's absurd and its an incorrect accusation on your part.
Missionary Man

Cleveland, OH

#20 Mar 27, 2008
MPagoPago wrote:
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Ok, I'll bite!:)
And those facts are?
Okay, that's really not what I do. I'm a Bible-based preacher. But try these links if you have some free time:

http://www.gotquestions.org/archaeology-Bible...

http://www.gotquestions.org/search.php...

http://www.answersingenesis.org/

http://www.probe.org/

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