Saint Paul, MN
#41220 Jul 6, 2014
After Pope Clement was tossed into the sea tied to an anchor, the universal Bishops elected Evaristus, then Alexander, Sixtus, Telephorues, Higanus, St. Pius, Anecetus, Softer, Eliephorus.....all these Popes were martyred. In 250 AD, Emperor Decius arrested and beheaded Pope Fabian, saying: "I would far rather hear of a rival to my throne than another Bishop of Rome".
After St.Fabian, another 12 Bishops of Rome would govern before the Roman Empire stopped killing them and legalized Christianity. All were Martyred, all are Saints of the Catholic Church.
Allowing the Church to come out from hiding, allowed for order among the Universal Churches. No longer was Christianity forced to operate in secrecy. There was no more fear. This propelled the establishment of a set canon of scripture. Or "a Bible" , so that all the Catholic Church would read the same set at Mass.
In 460 AD, the Roman Empire collapsed. The Catholic Church in Rome did not. Its still there. 266 bishops after St Peter, Francis is now in charge.
It's THAT simple, People. There is no secret conspiracy, hidden,'911 cover up' Christianity. No complicated deciphering of Scripture, just the simple Church and the powerful Sacraments.
A hundred yrs
Saint Paul, MN
#41221 Jul 6, 2014
A hundred yrs after the first Bible was published (1454 AD), the protestant phenomena began. A hundred yrs after that, the fanaticism fringe began. The JW, SDA and certain Baptist groups and Pentecostal cults sprung up. Finally, the American tent revivals of the 1950's and "Jesus movement" spawned the modern born again movement. These guys are all extremely ignorant. Thankfully, you are all basically confined to America. The rest of the world - especially the middle east- hasn't a clue who you are or what you teach. But they know who Pope Francis is and what the Catholic Church teaches. Jesus said His Church would be the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden.(Mathew 5:14) Are any of you fundie groups known?
Can any of you fundie groups demonstrate a continuity dating to the Apostles?
Who were your early leaders who identified with you? Names, biographies, Martyrs???
You are new and strange. There is no record of your theology existing. Even your current interpretations won't survive til the next generation. The JWs are an embarrassing breed. How many failed false prophets need to lead, until the normal folk say enough is enough?
#41222 Jul 6, 2014
you are uneducated idiot from RCC read John 1;1-4
such idiots only should be in the close mental institutions and halucinate to their own mirror image,
meal of Jesus was last meal before His death,
not RCC worth s..eucahristic babling of all of you RCC phedofilia and children molesting as well as fornication and aduteries with RCC nuns and young RCC huren females,
nobody gave you any f.......authority to advice others or explain them Yours RCC spiritual and mental disease,
hell Dantee with you ,and for all BS like you wander around like aborted embrios of satan sperm family.
if you want to be JW,just pick up telephone book,find local KH and call them for basic Bible study with goof like you?
because nobody will convert you here,or listen your Lies?
#41223 Jul 6, 2014
right your RCC is light of the world,
flaming light of Hate,immorality, greed, all gold hided in the banks,and pope franic god of rcc next in the raw phedofile and immoral scumbag protecting own priests who are Homosexuals,perverts,thiefs,hi pocrities, and Spiritual BS
world in reality persecute true believers like killed Jesus,
this world know only what belong to them to satan,
and is simple proof that RCC known popularity in this world is satan sperm spiritual stinking embrio overflood around the globe like deadly acid
you are not brain normal to say enough is enough, normal folks soon say this,and throw flames of destruction on your monster demonic church and their freacking world abominable wicked christianity,
not you only God will have last word to say against demons like you ENOUGH IS ENOUGH YOU DEMENTED FALLEN MENTALY PSYCHOPATH
flush away from here,tomorrow visit dr Shrink office for help?
and after visit call JW to allow you to enter KH for Watchtower Studies,you poor spiritual dumb idiot
#41224 Jul 6, 2014
they are saints like your all idols are saints, and holy cow s.....is saint liquid mixwd with chewed grass by old cow who stops giving any milk?
half heads like you is plenty in RCC full of fanatics, adulters,evil gossipers, murders, theifs drug addicts, fornicators, hating yourselves etc........satan call all of the"saints"
he he heeeeeeeeeeeeee bgwa ha haaaaaaaa
and every second day after breakfast pope franicis masturbate fellow priest d.....
you create shame and evil to enter here and provoke such harsh words against you and your own wicked satanic RCC
Saint Paul, MN
#41225 Jul 6, 2014
You talk big and tough over the internet. That's no surprise. I can see you're a coward, vile, lying, bigoted, ignorant deceitful man. The Catholic Church in Rome will out live u and every fanatic who comes after you.
Saint Paul, MN
#41226 Jul 6, 2014
There is no record of your theology existing. Your anonymous. All you got is your current interpretations of our Scriptures. Whoopie doo. The next generation will pick up a Bible and do the same thing..... your interpretations will be lost in the dustbins of history. The Catholic Church will remain. The teachings are protected. We can show how Christians believed as we do in every decade since Christ. We can name the men who headed Catholic diocese in every city in every decade. There is no secret. The Lords Church is His bride. It is out in the open, set on a hill.
Saint Paul, MN
#41227 Jul 6, 2014
Read about Bishop Clement of Rome. Pope and disciple of Peter and Paul. His writings reveal my faith.
Or how about the Apostle John's disciple, Ignatius of Antioch? Ate and walked with John and Peter. Ordained Bishop by Peter. Read his writings if you feel interested in truth.
Read about the compilation of the Bible at the council of Rome, Cathrage and Hippo. That's how goofball fanatics like you have a Bible today to play with.
#41228 Jul 6, 2014
Saint Ignatius of Antioch, ordained by Peter himself; walked and studied beside the Apostle John said this around 90 AD
"Wherever the Bishop appears, there let the people be. Just as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church. It is not lawful to Baptize or give communion without the consent of the Bishop. Therefore whatever has his approval will be pleasing to God, thus will be safe and valid"
Letter to the Symmynians
"Take note those who hold heterodox opinions on the grace of Jesus Christ who had come to us. They refrain from the Eucharist and prayer because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Lord Jesus Christ. Flesh which suffered for our sins and the Father, in His goodness, raised up again. They who deny this gift are perishing in their disputes"
#41229 Jul 6, 2014
The New Testament is not a collection of books. Its the Eucharist.(Luke 22:20)
The Church is the pillar and foundation of truth, so says the Bible (1tim 3:15)
If you have a dispute or your brother will not listen to you. You dont show him Bible verses, you tell it TO THE CHURCH. They are the authority.(Mathew 18:17)
What Church has such authority? The one established by Peter.. "On this rock I shall build my Church" (Mathew 16:18)
Why do you have a Bible? Because the authority of this Church, under Pope Damaseus in the 4th century, compiled the list for the Bible. Revelation, Hebrews and James made the cut. The epistle of Barnabas, Clement and the Didache did not. Why is that?
You frauds accept the authority of the Catholic Church on the list of Books. Then you hijack the list and lead others astray. Using your unauthorized interpretations to denounce the very Church upon which the Bible came.
#41230 Jul 6, 2014
Monday, July 7
Let him call the older men of the congregation to him, and let them pray over him.Jas. 5:14.
Could the desire to receive glory from humans affect even dedicated servants of God? Suppose a young man is assigned to preach in an area where he is fairly well-known in the community but is not yet known as one of Jehovahs Witnesses. Will he shrink back in fear? Or what if someone is ridiculed for his pursuit of theocratic goals? Will he allow those without clear spiritual vision to influence his choices in life? Or perhaps a Christian has committed a serious sin. Will he hide his wrongdoing because he is afraid of losing his standing in the congregation or because he does not want to disappoint loved ones? In the latter case, if his foremost thought is to repair his relationship with Jehovah, he will call the older men of the congregation and seek their help.Jas. 5:15, 16. w13 2/15 4:9
#41231 Jul 6, 2014
hush hush satan with your bablings and fake internet links,worthless dung writen by satanists and RCC thelogians teached by lord of this world-satan alone,
I don't give any s... what you say or who are you, you are according to my opinon,you are just cyber faceless mutt,idiot,fanatic and half d.........head(not witness,not preacher,nor sucker d.....of your priests,go to hell?
#41232 Jul 6, 2014
you f.....g earthly idiot and psychopath,
Bible was writen by God who inspired writers, and used wicked RCC to complete Bible as One book,
only God removed all chains thrown by RCC on Bible and burn up all people who readed Bible as God's Word
without of God control,scumbags like you today wouldn't allow spread Bible in this world,
You satainic pigs are without of any power today,without of any Bible control,without of any God's blessings, all this came at end of ages after 2000 years MURDERS,PERSECUTIONS,KILLINGS ATHEISM HOMOSEXAULISM FLOWN FROM RCC,
your church is damned today,only matter of next few years,and be destroyed like ancient Babilon,
Babilon Great today Organize Christianity with stolen God's holy vessels,gold,silver,banks adultery drug traficking,war promotions etc....
came to an end after end of church Ages, only today around churches and inside run devil spirit and satan with face of pope francis seat like wicked Pharisea in Vatican playing Holy S...
f...you poor brainless idiot,and spiritual blind psychopath?
you got catolic thread ,go there and swallow own s... die quickly and nobody will worry cyber scumbag like you,
why ?you enter here,instead visit Sunday KH and listen JW elders 40 minutes healthy talk from the podium? fe fe???
#41233 Jul 6, 2014
your text is bunch of freacking mess and confussion,
text describe about earthly local fears,reputations, not courage, etc.....
at end jump in spiritual field to Jehova God who got nothing to do with earthly push and daily activities of humans who chose to do something,only human cowardish doesn't allow to push yourselves in the areas not designed by God and Life
good standing in the congregation doesn't make anyone as good standing believer before God's throne,
Congregation is man made product worthy only to seat and silently fart for 2 hours,and get away after meeting feel worse than before entering KH?
#41234 Jul 6, 2014
I end my last post with Quote of mark 3;35-37......Jesus described who is mother, brothers or sisiters,
same full explanation brought apostle Paul to Timothy
"Do not speak harshly to an older man, but speak to him as to a father, to younger men as brother,to older womes as mother,to younger women as sister-with absolute purity
Why.in the face of all such evidence and apostolic example,would a religious system favor placing dominant emphasis on an organizational concept rather than his family relationship?
The evident reason is because the latter,if genuinely applied,does not lend itself to an authoritarian approach.
For in his family,there is 'ONLY ONE FATHER" AND HE IS IN HEAVEN"AND 'ONLY ONE MASTER,AND ALL OF YOU ARE ONLY SIMPLE SAME RANKS BROTHERS
It means not organize church crowd,nor God residing in the RCC or JW Kh,
but spiritual brotherhood and One Unity in Divine Spiritual temple in the heaven Of Holy AGES SAINTS ASSEMBLY
to be continue about
THE CHRISTIAN EKKLESIA OF THE FIRST CENTURY.
The most frequent expression found in the Christian Scriptures to describe Christians collectively is the Greek term"ekklesia"usualy today mislead this word as "church"or "congregation".
It is notable,however,that this term of ITSELF HAS NOT INTRISING RELIGIOUS GATHER TOGETHER MEANING?
#41235 Jul 7, 2014
"The Bible was written by God...."
That's cute, Dr. Shrink. Nice cop out. Are we in 5th grade theology??. Duh, da bible was written by God...and only me interpretations matter.
God inspired authors to write. He also inspired the Catholic Bishops who put the "inspired" label on the letters, epistles, poems and memoirs that make up the Bible. The Bible is the word of God and you only know that title cuz the Catholic Church told you. No? Give me the verse then, where the Bible says the Bible is the Bible. Where's the list of Books Jesus gave us for the Bible?
These are Sacred Scriptures to us. Every time your moronic vile self uses our verses- along with your sick language- you pervert that which is Sacred to us. Get your own Bible. Mohammed did. Joseph Smith did.... Heck, with your new and strange interpretations, its no longer the word of God. Its the word of Dr. Shrink. Your interpretations do not match with what the Apostles taught. We have the documents to prove it. Now scram you internet tough guy..
#41236 Jul 7, 2014
i urinate on your theologies and on you too?
hush hush satan,try visit JW Kh AND LEARN BASIC WHAT Bible is you half head cretin
JW can and are able to fix your freacking brain,
I never was catolic and never was listen theological idiots inspired by devil alone,
you deserve not normal only sick language, because without of question you enter someone posts,respond against someone wishes
I despise you and your RCC ,thelogical BS,and your deceived by satan church fathers?
why don't you go to JW KH to meeting and to listen JW true sermons for you?????
#41237 Jul 7, 2014
yea yea yea
I know I know?
such d..heads like you in dark Ages would burn up me for this and true service to God
never forget you scumbag live in 21 century,your verbal hate is less worth from s....flushed from toilet bowl
your verbal hate only damage your wicked dead heart,because atheism reap out all power of RCC stolen from this pagan world and used 2000 years for their own benefits,
you are miserable sentenced to death together with your fricking RCC awaiting time of eternal consuming fire from God Alone?
I never was f.....catolic
my past memories remind me what f..RCC did to own members during 2 WW, and 50 years of communism ,RCC agents priests betray own members to throw them to communist prisons, interrogations, persecutions and church informant in black robes were look like satanic ghosts confessing own people and sent reports to Police or government
Hell with you,your theologies,your RCC,your priests and your god devil Pope Flancisssssss(sound like deadly boa snake)
don't even attempt to respond to me,I despise your satanic teachings?
#41238 Jul 7, 2014
Basically you're sayin: "to hell with all things Catholic, except our list of books".
Actually, you don't agree with the list of Books either. You listened to the man made list given by Martin Luther and Calvin. They tore out seven books.(Well, actually, they didn't. Their offspring did the deed, because Luther took the "inspired" title away, the books gradually fell out of your Bible)
You haven't a clue what the Sacred Scriptures are. So put away your orphan Annie secret decoder ring, and go decipher someone else's scriptures. See what your bible study sect can conjure up with the Koran .. our Scriptures were already revealed once. The Apostles didnt just hand out some miscellaneous letters you idiot. They deposited the faith verbally. The they made sure successors like Clement, Ignatius, Polycarp, Ireneus, Cletus, Sixtus, Justin Martyr had the truth. The word of God was and is safeguarded.
#41239 Jul 7, 2014
Tuesday, July 8
[Gods] will is that all sorts of men should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth.1 Tim. 2:4.
Jehovah wants people to come to know the truth so that they can worship him properly and receive his blessing. By making the true knowledge known, Jehovah has gathered a faithful remnant of anointed Christians.(Dan. 12:4) Out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, he is also gathering a great crowd, who have the hope of living forever on earth.(Rev. 7:9) The expansion of true worship over the past 130 years points to the overwhelming conclusion that God and his appointed King, Jesus Christ, have been with Jehovahs servants on earthdirecting, protecting, organizing, and educating them. Their growth also underscores the certainty that Jehovahs promises for the future will be fulfilled.The earth will certainly be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah as the waters are covering the very sea.(Isa. 11:9) What blessings mankind will then experience! w12 8/15 1:16, 17
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