Jehovah's Witnesses are true disciple...
lovewithin

Denver, CO

#40890 May 4, 2014
Student wrote:
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It is true that Jesus spoke of the holy spirit as a “helper” and spoke of such helper as ‘teaching,’‘bearing witness,’‘giving evidence,’‘guiding,’‘speaking, ’‘hearing,’ and ‘receiving.’ In so doing, the original Greek shows Jesus at times applying the personal pronoun “he” to that “helper”(paraclete).(Compare Joh 14:16, 17, 26; 15:26; 16:7-15.)
However, it is not unusual in the Scriptures for something that is not actually a person to be personalized or personified.
Wisdom is personified in the book of Proverbs (1:20-33; 8:1-36); and feminine pronominal forms are used of it in the original Hebrew, as also in many English translations.(KJ, RS, JP, AT) Wisdom is also personified at Matthew 11:19 and Luke 7:35, where it is depicted as having both “works” and “children.”
The apostle Paul personalized sin and death and also undeserved kindness as “kings.”(Ro 5:14, 17, 21; 6:12) He speaks of sin as “receiving an inducement,”‘working out covetousness,’‘seducing,’ and ‘killing.’(Ro 7:8-11)
Yet it is obvious that Paul did not mean that sin was actually a person.
Since God himself is a Spirit and is holy and since all his faithful angelic sons are spirits and are holy, it is evident that if the “holy spirit” were a person, there should reasonably be given some means in the Scriptures to distinguish and identify such spirit person from all these other ‘holy spirits.’
At Matthew 28:19 reference is made to “the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit.” A “name” can mean something other than a personal name. When, in English, we say,“in the name of the law,” or “in the name of common sense,” we have no reference to a person as such.
Further evidence against the idea of personality as regards the holy spirit is the way it is used in association with other impersonal things, such as water and fire (Mt 3:11; Mr 1:8);
Christians are spoken of as being baptized “in holy spirit.”(Ac 1:5; 11:16)
Persons are urged to become “filled with spirit” instead of with wine.(Eph 5:18)
So, too, persons are spoken of as being ‘filled’ with it along with such qualities as wisdom and faith (Ac 6:3, 5; 11:24) or joy (Ac 13:52)
And holy spirit is inserted, or sandwiched in, with a number of such qualities at 2 Corinthians 6:6. It is most unlikely that such expressions would be made if the holy spirit were a divine person. As to the spirit’s ‘bearing witness’(Ac 5:32; 20:23), it may be noted that the same thing is said of the water and the blood at 1 John 5:6-8.
While some texts refer to the spirit as ‘witnessing,’‘speaking,’ or ‘saying’ things, other texts make clear that it spoke through persons, having no personal voice of its own.(Compare Heb 3:7; 10:15-17; Ps 95:7; Jer 31:33, 34; Ac 19:2-6; 21:4; 28:25.)
Ruach and pneuma, therefore, when used with reference to God’s holy spirit, refer to God’s invisible active force by which he accomplishes his divine purpose and will.
So, student... the "Holy Spirit" means nothing to you ?

Do you ever get tired of upholding the lies of watch tower? Spreading lies will not be tolerated by GOD...student

There is no end to your excuses that you make for trying to make the scriptures fit the watch tower doctrine.

You are the pathetic! and sad.

You really believe this garbage on the watch tower? watch tower men are your God, student.

Your conscious has been seared with a hot iron.

student....if you really had Jesus Christ in your heart...you would KNOW who the "Holy Spirit"
truly is.

You really need to do some 'soul searching ...on your own!..without the influence of the watch tower men.
Student

Beavercreek, OR

#40893 May 4, 2014
Daily Text

Monday, May 5


Be courageous and strong.... Jehovah your God is with you.—Josh. 1:9.


To have the courage needed to do God’s will, we must study and apply his Word. That is what Joshua was told to do when he became Moses’ successor:“Be courageous and very strong to take care to do according to all the law that Moses my servant commanded you.... This book of the law should not depart from your mouth, and you must in an undertone read in it day and night, in order that you may take care to do according to all that is written in it; for then you will make your way successful and then you will act wisely.”(Josh. 1:7, 8) Joshua followed that counsel, and ‘his way was successful.’ If we do likewise, we will have greater courage and success in God’s service. Joshua must have been greatly strengthened when he heard Jehovah’s words, as recorded in today’s text. Jehovah is with us too. So let us “not suffer shock or be terrified” regardless of our trials. w13 1/15 1:7, 8
lovewithin

Denver, CO

#40894 May 4, 2014
The false Jesus of the Jehovah Witnesses cannot save because it is a mythical character and does not exist in reality!

Paul made clear in II Corinthians 11:3,4 that Satan is subtle and wants to deceive us just as he did Eve in Eden. He gives just enough truth to
catch your attention!

The Devil always misquotes the Bible, rarely avoids it completely.

Satan is a MASTER in counterfeiting scriptures!
Student

Beavercreek, OR

#40896 May 5, 2014
lovewithin wrote:
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So, student... the "Holy Spirit" means nothing to you ?
Do you ever get tired of upholding the lies of watch tower? Spreading lies will not be tolerated by GOD...student
There is no end to your excuses that you make for trying to make the scriptures fit the watch tower doctrine.
You are the pathetic! and sad.
You really believe this garbage on the watch tower? watch tower men are your God, student.
Your conscious has been seared with a hot iron.
student....if you really had Jesus Christ in your heart...you would KNOW who the "Holy Spirit"
truly is.
You really need to do some 'soul searching ...on your own!..without the influence of the watch tower men.
Really, are you blind?

Your trinity doctrine is deathly!

Look at this verse from

Revelation 12:9-12
And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven. So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him. And I heard a loud voice in heaven say:

NOTICE THAT SATAN “IS MISLEADING THE ENTIRE INHABITED EARTH”?

“Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our God!!... On this account be glad, you heavens and you who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.’”

The earth has since been the entire scene of operation of the wicked demons, wicked spirit persons, in fact, for more than NINTY years now. This accounts for the increase of troubles in our generation.

Yes you trinity doctrine has been around since the 4th century. This teaching of three persons in one God was never a part of the faith of the ancient Hebrews.(Deuteronomy 5:6, 7; 6:4) A Jew himself, Jesus certainly never believed or taught that he was almighty God. He claimed no part in a triad as taught in Babylonish doctrine or dogma.—Mark 12:29; 13:32; John 5:19, 30; 14:28; 20:17.

Therefore, we reject Babylon’s blasphemous doctrines as taught in the false religions of the world. We render worship to the one true God, Jehovah, through his Son, who became “a propitiatory sacrifice” for the sins not only of anointed Christians but of the whole world of mankind.—1 John 2:2.
Student

Beavercreek, OR

#40897 May 5, 2014
We, who since 1914 have been living in “the Lord’s day” and at this time of divine judgment, rejoice in the grandest of all privileges, that of serving the Sovereign Lord Jehovah under his King of kings, Jesus Christ.(Revelation 1:10) As JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES, we testify that:

(1) WE ABHOR the reproach that Babylon the Great, and Christendom in particular, has cast upon the name of the one true and living God, Jehovah. For our part, WE AFFIRM wholeheartedly, in the words of Revelation 4:11:“You are worthy, Jehovah, even our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power.”

(2) WE ABHOR Christendom’s adherence to Babylonish teachings, notably those of a triune god, the human soul’s immortality, eternal torment in hell, a fiery purgatory, and worship of images—such as the Madonna and the cross. In line with Revelation 22:18, 19, WE FIRMLY ABIDE by God’s written Word and all that it contains.

(3) WE ABHOR anti-God philosophies and practices, so common in Christendom, such as evolution, blood transfusions, abortions, lying, greed, and dishonesty. In our worship and way of life, WE WILL HONOR our Creator, Jehovah God, the Almighty, whose ways are described at Revelation 15:3 as “righteous and true.”

(4) WE ABHOR Christendom’s failure to heed Jesus’ messages to the seven congregations at Revelation chapters 2 and 3 in such matters as sectarianism, idolatry, fornication, the Jezebel influence, lukewarmness, and lack of watchfulness. For our part, WE WILL HEAR AND OBEY what “the spirit says to the congregations.”

(5) WE ABHOR the immorality and permissiveness in Christendom and among its clergy, and we welcome Jehovah’s clear judgment stated at Revelation 21:8 that those who continue in their filth—fornicators, liars, and suchlike—will be utterly destroyed. WE WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT Bible standards on sex, marriage, and family life.

(6) WE ABHOR the centuries-long spiritual prostitution of the clergy of Babylon the Great in conniving with worldly rulers to gain power, wealth, and oppressive dominance over the common people. WE ARE RESOLVED to help honesthearted ones to obey the angel’s call at Revelation 18:4:“Get out of her, my people.”

(7) WE ABHOR the massive bloodguilt resulting from over 100 million lives sacrificed in war in this 20th century alone, largely attributable to the great harlot’s fornication with the political powers. WE REJOICE that the appointed time is near for God to execute judicial punishment on Babylon the Great, as clearly stated at Revelation 18:21-24.

As Jehovah’s Witnesses, WE COUNT IT A JOY AND A PRIVILEGE to announce to the world that in 1914 “the kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord [Jehovah] and of his Christ.”(Revelation 11:15)

WE ARE RESOLVED to move forward fearlessly in making known Jehovah’s declared judgments on Babylon the Great and in warning of the imminence of God’s war of Armageddon.

WE ARE DETERMINED to echo, in a loud voice and “to every nation and tribe and tongue and people,” the glad tidings that “a new heaven and a new earth” are at hand for the blessing of obedient mankind.(Revelation 14:6; 21:1)

WE REJOICE that as a result of this proclamation, a great crowd of more than eight million from all nations is now united with us around the globe. Along with the angel flying in midheaven, all of us declare:“Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.”—Revelation 14:7.

“Choose for yourselves today whom you will serve.”—Josh. 24:15.
Student

Beavercreek, OR

#40898 May 5, 2014
Daily Text

Tuesday, May 6


This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth.—Matt. 24:14.


Today, there are about 109,400 congregations throughout the world, and some 895,800 brothers and sisters serve as pioneers. Nearly eight million people now accept “the true knowledge,” applying it in their lives.(Dan. 12:4; Isa. 60:22) This is particularly impressive, since Jesus foretold that his disciples would be “objects of hatred by all people” because of his name. He added that his followers would be persecuted, imprisoned, and even killed.(Luke 21:12-17) Despite the opposition of Satan, his demons, and opposers among mankind, Jehovah’s people have enjoyed phenomenal success in carrying out their commission to make disciples. Today, they are preaching in “all the inhabited earth,” from tropical jungles to frigid tundra, in mountains, in deserts, in cities, and in the most remote countryside. This could never have been accomplished without divine backing. w12 8/15 1:13
lovewithin

Denver, CO

#40899 May 6, 2014
Student wrote:
We, who since 1914 have been living in “the Lord’s day” and at this time of divine judgment, rejoice in the grandest of all privileges, that of serving the Sovereign Lord Jehovah under his King of kings, Jesus Christ.(Revelation 1:10) As JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES, we testify that:
(1) WE ABHOR the reproach that Babylon the Great, and Christendom in particular, has cast upon the name of the one true and living God, Jehovah. For our part, WE AFFIRM wholeheartedly, in the words of Revelation 4:11:“You are worthy, Jehovah, even our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power.”
(2) WE ABHOR Christendom’s adherence to Babylonish teachings, notably those of a triune god, the human soul’s immortality, eternal torment in hell, a fiery purgatory, and worship of images—such as the Madonna and the cross. In line with Revelation 22:18, 19, WE FIRMLY ABIDE by God’s written Word and all that it contains.
(3) WE ABHOR anti-God philosophies and practices, so common in Christendom, such as evolution, blood transfusions, abortions, lying, greed, and dishonesty. In our worship and way of life, WE WILL HONOR our Creator, Jehovah God, the Almighty, whose ways are described at Revelation 15:3 as “righteous and true.”
(4) WE ABHOR Christendom’s failure to heed Jesus’ messages to the seven congregations at Revelation chapters 2 and 3 in such matters as sectarianism, idolatry, fornication, the Jezebel influence, lukewarmness, and lack of watchfulness. For our part, WE WILL HEAR AND OBEY what “the spirit says to the congregations.”
(5) WE ABHOR the immorality and permissiveness in Christendom and among its clergy, and we welcome Jehovah’s clear judgment stated at Revelation 21:8 that those who continue in their filth—fornicators, liars, and suchlike—will be utterly destroyed. WE WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT Bible standards on sex, marriage, and family life.
(6) WE ABHOR the centuries-long spiritual prostitution of the clergy of Babylon the Great in conniving with worldly rulers to gain power, wealth, and oppressive dominance over the common people. WE ARE RESOLVED to help honesthearted ones to obey the angel’s call at Revelation 18:4:“Get out of her, my people.”
(7) WE ABHOR the massive bloodguilt resulting from over 100 million lives sacrificed in war in this 20th century alone, largely attributable to the great harlot’s fornication with the political powers. WE REJOICE that the appointed time is near for God to execute judicial punishment on Babylon the Great, as clearly stated at Revelation 18:21-24.
As Jehovah’s Witnesses, WE COUNT IT A JOY AND A PRIVILEGE to announce to the world that in 1914 “the kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord [Jehovah] and of his Christ.”(Revelation 11:15)
WE ARE RESOLVED to move forward fearlessly in making known Jehovah’s declared judgments on Babylon the Great and in warning of the imminence of God’s war of Armageddon.
WE ARE DETERMINED to echo, in a loud voice and “to every nation and tribe and tongue and people,” the glad tidings that “a new heaven and a new earth” are at hand for the blessing of obedient mankind.(Revelation 14:6; 21:1)
WE REJOICE that as a result of this proclamation, a great crowd of more than eight million from all nations is now united with us around the globe. Along with the angel flying in midheaven, all of us declare:“Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.”—Revelation 14:7.
The watch tower men have set so many false dates....and the JW members have believed everyone of them. They are the FALSE prophet! They LIE.

And you ..student of Oregon! can't see that it is all lies.

The 'watch tower ' is the 'judas Iscariot"....they just kiss Jesus and say 'Jesus is here'
no ' Jesus is here " no Jesus is here!!!

JW;s..........May God have Mercy on your soul.
lovewithin

Denver, CO

#40900 May 6, 2014
Student from Oregon .. Our 'Heavenly Father " ABHORS LIARS !

Deuteronomy 18:20

But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

18:21
And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?

18:22
When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

The Society has held onto 1914 for almost a century as the "final curtain" for the wicked system of things, soon to be followed by co existence with God on a paradise earth. In anticipation of this, thousands have sold their homes, given up careers or job advances.

Many others have bitten the bullet and gone out on cold and rainy days or night to preach and distribute the twisted words of a few antiquated old geezers from Brooklyn who amazingly control the minds of millions.

And for many of the old timers whose hopes have shattered when they found out that all that comes form Brooklyn is not inspired from God.

But many have opened the Trojan Horse and found only silly old men gazing into a crystal ball and prophesizing. Let's hope that all who cry out for help find the love of God, manifest in Jesus.

If the Jehovah’s Witness’ believe that they are “Jehovah’s Chosen Organization” who have only “Kingdom interest” then they should stand “shoulder to shoulder” and accept that the WTS and its originators, have over the years been laying brick on top of brick to build this great wall of lies known as the doctrine of1914, to keep them separate form THE ONLY TRUTH THAT WILL LEAD THEM TO ETERNAL LIFE.

JW's ...Listen to God's WORD...not the watch tower's words of lies.

(Sources for the Greek translation: Elis Ultra Bible, Crosswalk.com , Thayer’s and Smith’s Bible dictionary, and Theological Dictionary of the New Testament.)
lovewithin

Denver, CO

#40901 May 6, 2014
Student of Oregon.........Our .Heavenly Father...ABHORS .LIARS!!

The Watchtower Society spent decades promoting its most prominent doctrine that the end would occur in 1914.

Should a person trust the Watchtower Society when it was proven so dramatically wrong?

Can a person trust the Watchtower Society when it continues to resort to deception when presenting its history?

How can a person belong to an organization that refuses to accept responsibility for its mistakes, passing the blame to its faithful followers?

Student from Oregon .........."Every knee will bow and we ALL.. will SEE Jesus Christ ..........

Student......Did you know that Jesus Christ DIED on the CROSS for
ALL of us? For YOU and ME and EVERYONE...that ACCEPTS
HIM !!!!

Jesus Christ is knocking at your 'Hearts door' let Him in!
Student

Beavercreek, OR

#40902 May 6, 2014
lovewithin wrote:
Student from Oregon .. Our 'Heavenly Father " ABHORS LIARS !
Deuteronomy 18:20
But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
18:21
And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?
18:22
When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
The Society has held onto 1914 for almost a century as the "final curtain" for the wicked system of things, soon to be followed by co existence with God on a paradise earth. In anticipation of this, thousands have sold their homes, given up careers or job advances.
Many others have bitten the bullet and gone out on cold and rainy days or night to preach and distribute the twisted words of a few antiquated old geezers from Brooklyn who amazingly control the minds of millions.
And for many of the old timers whose hopes have shattered when they found out that all that comes form Brooklyn is not inspired from God.
But many have opened the Trojan Horse and found only silly old men gazing into a crystal ball and prophesizing. Let's hope that all who cry out for help find the love of God, manifest in Jesus.
If the Jehovah’s Witness’ believe that they are “Jehovah’s Chosen Organization” who have only “Kingdom interest” then they should stand “shoulder to shoulder” and accept that the WTS and its originators, have over the years been laying brick on top of brick to build this great wall of lies known as the doctrine of1914, to keep them separate form THE ONLY TRUTH THAT WILL LEAD THEM TO ETERNAL LIFE.
JW's ...Listen to God's WORD...not the watch tower's words of lies.
(Sources for the Greek translation: Elis Ultra Bible, Crosswalk.com , Thayer’s and Smith’s Bible dictionary, and Theological Dictionary of the New Testament.)
Get your facts straight!!

The March 1880 edition of the Watch Tower magazine identified the year 1914 as the time for the close of “the appointed times of the nations”(and the end of the lease of power granted the Gentile rulers).

This was some 34 years before the arrival of that year and the momentous events it initiated. In the August 30, 1914, edition of The World, a leading New York newspaper at that time, a feature article in the paper’s Sunday magazine section commented on this as follows:“The terrific war outbreak in Europe has fulfilled an extraordinary prophecy. For a quarter of a century past, through preachers and through press, the ‘International Bible Students’... have been proclaiming to the world that the Day of Wrath prophesied in the Bible would dawn in 1914.”

The events that took place from and after the year 1914 C.E. are well-known history to all, beginning with the great war that erupted, the first world war in mankind’s history and the first to be fought over the issue, not of the domination of Europe alone, nor of Africa, nor of Asia, but of the domination of the world.—Lu 21:7-33; Re 11:15-18 it-1 Appointed Times of the Nations p.135
lovewithin

Denver, CO

#40904 May 6, 2014
Student...you need et your DATES straight ! and you facts!!

In 1972 the Jehovah's Witness Watchtower claimed to be the prophet of God.

IDENTIFYING THE "PROPHET"--"So does Jehovah have a prophet to help them, to warn them of dangers and to declare things to come? These questions can be answered in the affirmative. Who is this prophet?... This "prophet" was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah's Christian Witnesses ... Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a 'prophet' of God. It is another thing to prove it," (Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1972, p. 197).(See Deut. 18:21.)
•1897 "Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874," (Studies in the Scriptures, vol. 4, p. 621).
•1899 " ... the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty'(Revelation 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced," (The Time Is at Hand, 1908 edition, p. 101).
•1916 "The Bible chronology herein presented shows that the six great 1000 year days beginning with Adam are ended, and that the great 7th Day, the 1000 years of Christ's Reign, began in 1873," (The Time Is at Hand, forward, p. ii).
•1918 "Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old, particularly those named by the Apostle in Hebrews 11, to the condition of human perfection," (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, p. 89).
•1922 "The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures than 1914," (Watchtower, Sept. 1, 1922, p. 262).
•1923 "Our thought is, that 1925 is definitely settled by the Scriptures. As to Noah, the Christian now has much more upon which to base his faith than Noah had upon which to base his faith in a coming deluge," (Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1923, p. 106).
•1925 "The year 1925 is here. With great expectation Christians have looked forward to this year. Many have confidently expected that all members of the body of Christ will be changed to heavenly glory during this year. This may be accomplished. It may not be. In his own due time God will accomplish his purposes concerning his people. Christians should not be so deeply concerned about what may transpire this year," (Watchtower, Jan. 1, 1925, p. 3).
•1925 "It is to be expected that Satan will try to inject into the minds of the consecrated, the thought that 1925 should see an end to the work," (Watchtower, Sept., 1925, p. 262).
•1926 "Some anticipated that the work would end in 1925, but the Lord did not state so. The difficulty was that the friends inflated their imaginations beyond reason; and that when their imaginations burst asunder, they were inclined to throw away everything," (Watchtower, p. 232).
•1931 "There was a measure of disappointment on the part of Jehovah's faithful ones on earth concerning the years 1917, 1918, and 1925, which disappointment lasted for a time ... and they also learned to quit fixing dates," (Vindication, p. 338).
•1941 "Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon," (Watchtower, Sept. 15, 1941, p. 288).
•1968 "True, there have been those in times past who predicted an 'end to the world', even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The 'end' did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing?... Missing from such people were God's truths and evidence that he was using and guiding them," (Awake, Oct. 8, 1968).
•1968 "Why are you looking forward to 1975?" (Watchtower, Aug. 15, 1968, p. 494).

So many FALSE DATES!! So many lies!
lovewithin

Denver, CO

#40905 May 6, 2014
Student. from Oregon....I believe you are more gullible than the student from Mexico

In the 2010 DVD Faith In Action, Anthony Morris, speaking of Russell and the Bible Students, makes the statement:

"The fact that they were able to pinpoint that year [1914] is just phenomenal."

Russell did not originate the interpretation that the Seven Times pinpointed 1914 as the end of the Gentile times. Russell took this teaching from the Second Adventist movement. In 1823, John Aquila Brown published in The Even-Tide that the "seven times" of Daniel 4 were prophetic of 2,520 years, running from the beginning of Nebuchadnezzar's reign in 604 B.C. to 1917 A.D. Barbour later adjusted this to 1914. In 1875, The Herald of the Morning, edited by Barbour, Cogswell and Paton, stated;

Why does the watch tower continue to LIE about everything? They simply do not want to loose all this WORSHIP of the JW's.

Watch tower wants the worship and be LIKE the MOST HIGH.....does this sound familiar???? Satan wants the same thing!!!!
Student

Beavercreek, OR

#40907 May 6, 2014
Daily Text

Wednesday, May 7


“I will call forth against [Gog] throughout all my mountainous region a sword,” is the utterance of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah.“Against his own brother the sword of each one will come to be.”—Ezek. 38:21.


Panic-stricken, those on Satan’s side will be thrown into confusion and will turn their weapons against their own ranks—warrior against warrior. However, havoc is also to come Satan’s way. Jehovah states:“Fire and sulphur I shall rain down upon [Gog] and upon his bands and upon the many peoples that will be with him.”(Ezek. 38:22) What will be the result of this divine action? The nations will have to realize that their crushing defeat is brought about by the order of Jehovah himself. Then, as did the ancient Egyptian attackers who pursued the Israelites at the Red Sea, Satan’s forces may cry out in desperation:“Jehovah certainly fights for them”!(Ex. 14:25) Yes, the nations will be forced to acknowledge Jehovah.—Ezek. 38:23. w12 9/15 1:11, 12
Student

Beavercreek, OR

#40910 May 7, 2014
Brother Lee Love wrote:
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchto wer/misquotes-deception-lies.p hp
For more information see Failed 1914 Predictions.
In the 2010 DVD Faith In Action, Anthony Morris, speaking of Russell and the Bible Students, makes the statement:
"The fact that they were able to pinpoint that year [1914] is just phenomenal."
Russell did not originate the interpretation that the Seven Times pinpointed 1914 as the end of the Gentile times. Russell took this teaching from the Second Adventist movement. In 1823, John Aquila Brown published in The Even-Tide that the "seven times" of Daniel 4 were prophetic of 2,520 years, running from the beginning of Nebuchadnezzar's reign in 604 B.C. to 1917 A.D. Barbour later adjusted this to 1914. In 1875, The Herald of the Morning, edited by Barbour, Cogswell and Paton, stated;
"I believe that though the gospel dispensation will end in 1878, the Jews will not be restored to Palestille, until 1881; and that the "times of the Gentiles," viz. their seven prophetic, times, of 2520, or twice 1260 years, which began where God gave all, into the hands of Nebuchadnezzar, 606 B.C.; do not end until A.D. 1914; or 40 years from this." The Herald of the Morning 1875 Sep
I know the lovewithin does all ov her studying on the internet. It must be truth because the internet says so!

If she spent as much time reading the Bible as she does the internet, then she would not believe in this Trinity.
Student

Beavercreek, OR

#40911 May 7, 2014
lovewithin wrote:
Student...you need et your DATES straight ! and you facts!!
In 1972 the Jehovah's Witness Watchtower claimed to be the prophet of God.
IDENTIFYING THE "PROPHET"--"So does Jehovah have a prophet to help them, to warn them of dangers and to declare things to come? These questions can be answered in the affirmative. Who is this prophet?... This "prophet" was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah's Christian Witnesses ... Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a 'prophet' of God. It is another thing to prove it," (Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1972, p. 197).(See Deut. 18:21.)
I am only going to copy this one publication, as I have answered your posting before.

By the way I am the same Student, whether I am in Mexico or here in Oregon. With this posting you can get your facts straight. If I was you I would read the Bible more and quit studying the internet for answers.

(Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1972, p. 197-199) IDENTIFYING THE “PROPHET”
These questions can be answered in the affirmative. Who is this prophet? The clergy of the so-called “Christian” nations hold themselves before the people as being the ones commissioned to speak for God. But, as pointed out in the previous issue of this magazine, they have failed God and failed as proclaimers of his kingdom by approving a man-made political organization, the League of Nations (now the United Nations), as “the political expression of the Kingdom of God on earth.”

However, Jehovah did not let the people of Christendom, as led by the clergy, go without being warned that the League was a counterfeit substitute for the real kingdom of God. He had a “prophet” to warn them. This “prophet” was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah’s Christian witnesses. They are still proclaiming a warning, and have been joined and assisted in their commissioned work by hundreds of thousands of persons who have listened to their message with belief.

Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a “prophet” of God. It is another thing to prove it. The only way that this can be done is to review the record. What does it show?

During the World War I period this group, the International Bible Students, was very active in preaching the good news of God’s kingdom, as their Leader Jesus Christ had set this work before them in his prophecy at Matthew 24:14. They took literally Jesus’ words to the Roman governor Pontius Pilate:“My kingdom is no part of this world.”(John 18:36) They also took to heart Jesus’ words to his followers:“You are no part of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world.” They expected to suffer for living according to that rule, just as Jesus went on to say,“on this account the world hates you.”(John 15:19) Hatred toward them grew into violence during World War I.

Cont...
Student

Beavercreek, OR

#40912 May 7, 2014
These Bible Students had long been concerned with Ezekiel and his prophecy. In 1917 they published a book entitled “The Finished Mystery,” explaining the book of Ezekiel as well as that of Revelation. This book criticized the clergy as false to the Word of Jehovah. Within nine months a ban was put on its circulation in the United States and Canada. Then eight members of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, including its president and secretary-treasurer, were sentenced to prison in the Federal penitentiary, Atlanta, Georgia, U.S.A.

Though the work of these Christians was crippled for a while, after only nine months the eight men were freed from prison, in March 1919. They accepted this as an answer from God to their prayers. Their work was revived, much to the consternation of the clergy, who had been behind the banning.

Accordingly, their magazine The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ’s Presence, in its issues of August 1 and 15, 1919, encouraged vigorous resumption of the work of preaching the good news free from the fear of men. Under the subject “Blessed Are the Fearless,” the following statements were made:
“There is a fear which is very proper, and which everyone must have who is pleasing to God, and this is known as ‘Godly fear’. It means a holy reverence for Jehovah and a fear lest we should displease him and come short of the blessings he has promised us.... The Scriptures abound with testimony that those whom God approves do not fear man nor any other creature, but have a holy, reverential fear of Jehovah. In times of old Jehovah justified some men to friendship with him, and the record of his dealing with them was written for the benefit of the church.”

Ezekiel was one of these men so used by God, and not only his prophecies, but also Ezekiel himself and his acts were pictorial of things to come.

THE “PROPHET” SPEAKS TO CHRISTENDOM

A General Convention was held by the International Bible Students at Cedar Point, Ohio, September 1-8, 1919. Thousands of Jehovah’s servants were present from the United States and Canada. There the Watch Tower Society’s president urged the fearless resumption of the work, and this with the use of the outspoken magazine entitled “The Golden Age.” In the public talk delivered on the subject “The Hope for Distressed Humanity,” the speaker declared that the Lord’s displeasure was certain to be visited upon the League of Nations,

“because the clergy—Catholic and Protestant—claiming to be God’s representatives, have abandoned his plan and endorsed the League of Nations, hailing it as a political expression of Christ’s kingdom on earth.”

The League of Nations came into being in 1919 and began really to function when it was ratified by the signatory powers at Paris on January 10, 1920. But Jehovah’s servants continued to proclaim the Messianic kingdom of God. When the ban on The Finished Mystery was lifted, they resumed its circulation and, with it as a textbook, they continued to study the book of Ezekiel. As time went on and further developments fulfilled the prophecy of Ezekiel, a three-volume set of books titled “Vindication” provided an up-to-date understanding, showing more fully the application of the prophecy.

Thus this group of anointed followers of Jesus Christ, doing a work in Christendom paralleling Ezekiel’s work among the Jews, were manifestly the modern-day Ezekiel, the “prophet” commissioned by Jehovah to declare the good news of God’s Messianic kingdom and to give warning to Christendom. It is significant that, in 1931, after twelve years of faithful service despite the opposition of Christendom’s clergy, these followers of Christ embraced the name “Jehovah’s witnesses” at the same convention at which the book Vindication was released.—Isa. 43:10-12, American Standard Version.
Student

Beavercreek, OR

#40913 May 7, 2014
Daily Text

Thursday, May 8


Store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust consumes, and where thieves do not break in and steal.—Matt. 6:20.


In recent times, some countries have suffered severe disasters. Notably, many brothers in these lands have shown remarkable resilience. This does not mean that it was easy. Yet in each case, they put the disaster behind them and moved on in Jehovah’s service. In September 2009, over 80 percent of Manila, Philippines, was flooded by torrential rains. A wealthy man who lost much said,“The flood was a great equalizer, bringing difficulties and sufferings to both the rich and the poor.” Building one’s life around material things, which can so quickly disappear, often brings disappointment. How much wiser it is to center our life on our relationship with Jehovah, which can remain intact no matter what happens around us!—Heb. 13:5, 6. w12 10/15 1:12, 13
lovewithin

Denver, CO

#40915 May 8, 2014
Student wrote:
<quoted text>
I am only going to copy this one publication, as I have answered your posting before.
By the way I am the same Student, whether I am in Mexico or here in Oregon. With this posting you can get your facts straight. If I was you I would read the Bible more and quit studying the internet for answers.
(Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1972, p. 197-199) IDENTIFYING THE “PROPHET”
These questions can be answered in the affirmative. Who is this prophet? The clergy of the so-called “Christian” nations hold themselves before the people as being the ones commissioned to speak for God. But, as pointed out in the previous issue of this magazine, they have failed God and failed as proclaimers of his kingdom by approving a man-made political organization, the League of Nations (now the United Nations), as “the political expression of the Kingdom of God on earth.”
However, Jehovah did not let the people of Christendom, as led by the clergy, go without being warned that the League was a counterfeit substitute for the real kingdom of God. He had a “prophet” to warn them. This “prophet” was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah’s Christian witnesses. They are still proclaiming a warning, and have been joined and assisted in their commissioned work by hundreds of thousands of persons who have listened to their message with belief.
Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a “prophet” of God. It is another thing to prove it. The only way that this can be done is to review the record. What does it show?
During the World War I period this group, the International Bible Students, was very active in preaching the good news of God’s kingdom, as their Leader Jesus Christ had set this work before them in his prophecy at Matthew 24:14. They took literally Jesus’ words to the Roman governor Pontius Pilate:“My kingdom is no part of this world.”(John 18:36) They also took to heart Jesus’ words to his followers:“You are no part of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world.” They expected to suffer for living according to that rule, just as Jesus went on to say,“on this account the world hates you.”(John 15:19) Hatred toward them grew into violence during World War I.
Cont...
You are such a habitual LIAR. You follow your 'father...the watch tower..the Judas Iscariot of today. You never answer questions from anyone on here.....so don't say you do, you go around every question.

Why so many false dates the watch tower gave? and MISQUOTES?
Why does the watch tower NOT acknowledge the "Holy Spirit ?
Why does the watch tower MAKE you answer a lot of questions from their magazine BEFORE one can get BAPTIZED?
Why cant members have any higher education, than just the watch tower litature?
Why do you SHUN your own family members and friends that leave the cult ?

God gave us 'FREE WILL" why does your watch tower take that away, from its members?

NWT ...your bible....has CHANGED a lot of scriptures to fit the watch tower men's doctrine.
God ABHORS this and says so in the BIBLE. Why cant you members confront watch tower on questions about these changes?
lovewithin

Denver, CO

#40916 May 8, 2014
This statement was taken from one of YOUR web sites on
all watch tower publications !!!

Concerning what the watch tower said about what they REALLY think
Baptizing is for:

"Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization?" Watchtower 1985 Jun 1 p.30

Student.....I will use YOUR web sight from now on....is this OK
with you????
lovewithin

Denver, CO

#40917 May 8, 2014
Prince Helmut von Y Pipke wrote:
<quoted text>
friend
i only know,that your testimony and history of your organization ,doesn't approach at all closser to God Almighty and His Awesome Universe

at first you start worry about yourselves and own salvation,
because this is life and death,

May God Almighty have mercy on your soul,life and possible salvation,
Thank you........this is so true.

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