Jehovah's Witnesses are true disciple...
lovewithin

Denver, CO

#38055 Jan 15, 2014
Student wrote:
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Did you know that Accurate Knowledge of Jesus IS Vital to YOUR Salvation?
What about the many religious groups today that claim to believe in Christ? Would Jesus endorse them all as legitimate ways to gain salvation?
We do not have to guess in this regard, for Jesus clearly said:“Not everyone saying to me,‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, BUT THE ONE DOING THE WILL OF MY FATHER WHO IS IN THE HEAVENS WILL. Many will say to me in that day,‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness.”—Matthew 7:21-23.
These words of Jesus have sobering implications. They indicate that many devout people are failing to ‘do the will of the Father.’
How, then, can one gain true salvation?
First Timothy 2:3, 4 answers:“[God’s] will is that all sorts of men should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth.”—Compare Colossians 1:9, 10.
Such knowledge is critical to gaining salvation. When a Roman jailer asked the apostle Paul and his companion, Silas,“What must I do to get saved?” they replied:“Believe on the Lord Jesus and you will get saved, you and your household.”(Acts 16:30, 31)
Did that mean that all the jailer and his family needed to do was to have a certain feeling in their hearts?

No, for one thing, they could not truly “believe on the Lord Jesus” unless they had some understanding of who Jesus was, what he did, and what he taught.
CONT...
When Jesus comes into your heart , you will TRULY know Him ...

Do you even KNOW what Jesus did?... He DIED for your sins, student!!!!! He shed His blood on the cross for you and me and ALL of us student....okay you say it was a STAKE or pole.....that is no problem.....Jesus shed His blood on a stake or pole for you and me and us ALL!!

There you go with those stupid questions again.. No student ....the only knowledge you NEED of Jesus Christ is that He died for your sins.....to be SAVED.... Believeth on the Lord Jesus Christ for everlasting life. That was the good news to be spread throughout the nations....why is that so hard for you to understand?

You think Jesus was just a good prophet, you think He was just another "a" God, you think Jesus was just Michael the archangel.....YOU do NOT know or have Jesus in your Heart.

A pie.has .......... a bottom crust , a filling in center, a top crust ...all mingle together making a PIE......these 3 are same as ONE pie...it takes all three to make a pie,.. a PIE!

3 different entities , but as ONE ....that is God, and God's son Jesus, and the Holy Spirit ,......3 different entities ....but as ONE

"And these three are ONE" do you know what scripture that is??
Student

Puerto Peñasco, Mexico

#38056 Jan 15, 2014
Daily Text

Thursday, January 16

All authority has been given me.—Matt. 28:18.

The perfect humans, Adam and Eve, were a part of Jehovah’s peaceful and harmonious universal family. They were able to communicate with him personally, worship him, and be blessed by him. That harmonious relationship was interrupted when humans, influenced by Satan, rebelled against Jehovah’s sovereignty. Since 1914, however, the Messianic Kingdom has been taking progressive steps to restore that unity and harmony.(Eph. 1:9, 10) During the Thousand Year Reign, marvelous things presently “unseen” will be brought to reality.(2 Cor. 4:18) Then comes “the end,” that is, the close of Christ’s Millennial Reign.(1 Cor. 15:24) What will happen then? Though given “all authority ... in heaven and on the earth,” Jesus is not ambitious. He has no intention of usurping Jehovah’s place. He humbly “hands over the kingdom to his God and Father.” He will use his unique position and authority “to the glory of God.”—Phil. 2:9-11.(Examining the Scriptures Daily 2014)
yon

Miami Beach, FL

#38057 Jan 16, 2014
yon wrote:
What did he teach about disfellowshipping by elders and how they were to determine true repentance?
Waiting student
Student

Puerto Peñasco, Mexico

#38058 Jan 16, 2014
lovewithin wrote:
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When Jesus comes into your heart , you will TRULY know Him ...
Do you even KNOW what Jesus did?... He DIED for your sins, student!!!!! He shed His blood on the cross for you and me and ALL of us student....okay you say it was a STAKE or pole.....that is no problem.....Jesus shed His blood on a stake or pole for you and me and us ALL!!
There you go with those stupid questions again.. No student ....the only knowledge you NEED of Jesus Christ is that He died for your sins.....to be SAVED.... Believeth on the Lord Jesus Christ for everlasting life. That was the good news to be spread throughout the nations....why is that so hard for you to understand?
You think Jesus was just a good prophet, you think He was just another "a" God, you think Jesus was just Michael the archangel.....YOU do NOT know or have Jesus in your Heart.
A pie.has .......... a bottom crust , a filling in center, a top crust ...all mingle together making a PIE......these 3 are same as ONE pie...it takes all three to make a pie,.. a PIE!
3 different entities , but as ONE ....that is God, and God's son Jesus, and the Holy Spirit ,......3 different entities ....but as ONE
"And these three are ONE" do you know what scripture that is??
Yes, I know what scripture you are referring to: 1 John 5:7, 8:
KJ reads:“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.”(Dy also includes this Trinitarian passage.)

However, NW does not include the words “in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth.”(RS, NE, TEV, JB, NAB also leave out the Trinitarian passage.)

Regarding this Trinitarian passage, textual critic F. H. A. Scrivener wrote:“We need not hesitate to declare our conviction that the disputed words were not written by St. John: that they were originally brought into Latin copies in Africa from the margin, where they had been placed as a pious and orthodox gloss on ver. 8: that from the Latin they crept into two or three late Greek codices, and thence into the printed Greek text, a place to which they had no rightful claim.”—A Plain Introduction to the Criticism of the New Testament (Cambridge, 1883, third ed.), p. 654.

I really think you had better study the Bible, as it can be seen that, while Jesus’ death on a torture stake plays a vital part in human salvation, acceptance of this is by no means all that is involved in ‘putting faith in the name of Jesus.’(Ac 10:43)

Following his resurrection, Jesus informed his disciples,“All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth,” thereby showing that he heads a government of universal domain.(Mt 28:18)

The apostle Paul made clear that Jesus’ Father has “left nothing that is not subject to him [Jesus],” with the evident exception of “the one who subjected all things to him,” that is, Jehovah, the Sovereign God.(1Co 15:27; Heb 1:1-14; 2:8)

Jesus Christ’s “name,” therefore, is more excellent than that of God’s angels, in that his name embraces or stands for the vast executive authority that Jehovah has placed in him.(Heb 1:3, 4)

Only those who willingly recognize that “name” and bow to it, subjecting themselves to the authority it represents, will gain life eternal.(Ac 4:12; Eph 1:19-23; Php 2:9-11)

They must, sincerely and without hypocrisy, line up with the standards Jesus exemplified and, in faith, obey the commands he gave.(Mt 7:21-23; Ro 1:5; 1Jo 3:23)

Cont,,,
Student

Puerto Peñasco, Mexico

#38059 Jan 16, 2014
Illustrating this other aspect of Jesus’“name” is his prophetic warning that his followers would be “objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name.”(Mt 24:9; also Mt 10:22; Joh 15:20, 21; Ac 9:15, 16)

Clearly, this would be, not because his name represented that of a Ransomer or Redeemer, but because it represented God’s appointed Ruler, the King of kings, to whom all nations should bow in submission or else experience destruction.(Re 19:11-16; compare Ps 2:7-12)

So, too, it is certain that when demons gave in to Jesus’ command to get out of persons they possessed, they did so, not on the basis of Jesus’ being a sacrificial Lamb of God, but on account of the authority for which his name stood as the anointed representative of the Kingdom, the one with authority to call for, not merely one legion, but a dozen legions of angels, capable of expelling any demons who might stubbornly resist the order to leave.(Mr 5:1-13; 9:25-29; Mt 12:28, 29; 26:53; compare Da 10:5, 6, 12, 13.)

Jesus’ faithful apostles were authorized to use his name to expel demons, both before and after his death.(Lu 9:1; 10:17; Ac 16:16-18)

When Jesus’ followers referred to his “name” they frequently employed the expression “the Lord Jesus” or “our Lord Jesus Christ.”(Ac 8:16; 15:26; 19:5, 13, 17; 1Co 1:2, 10; Eph 5:20; Col 3:17)

They recognized him as their Lord not only because he was their divinely appointed Repurchaser and Owner by virtue of his ransom sacrifice (1Co 6:20; 7:22, 23; 1Pe 1:18, 19; Jude 4) but also because of his kingly position and authority. It was in the full regal as well as priestly authority represented by Jesus’ name that his followers:

preached (Ac 5:29-32, 40-42),

baptized disciples (Mt 28:18-20; Ac 2:38; compare 1Co 1:13-15),

disfellowshipped immoral persons (1Co 5:4, 5),

and exhorted and instructed the Christian congregations they shepherded (1Co 1:10; 2Th 3:6).

It follows, then, that those approved for life by Jesus could never put faith in, or render allegiance to, some other “name” as representing God’s authority to rule but must show unbreakable loyalty to the “name” of this divinely commissioned King, the Lord Jesus Christ.(Mt 12:18, 21; Re 2:13; 3:8)
Student

Magdalena, Mexico

#38060 Jan 16, 2014
yon wrote:
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Waiting student
The importance of preserving a congregation’s spirit was emphasized in ancient Corinth. The apostle Paul learned that among the Christians in that city sexual immorality was being tolerated,“such fornication as is not even among the nations, that a wife a certain man has of his father.”(1 Cor. 5:1)

Overseers of that congregation had not expelled (disfellowshipped) this person, but Paul urged them to “hand such a man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh.” They were to put him out of the Christian congregation into the world ruled by Satan the Devil and where destruction awaits.(1 John 5:19)

Why take this action? As Paul said,“in order that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord,” Jesus Christ.(1 Cor. 5:3-5)

This man had to be disfellowshipped if the “spirit,” or spirituality of the congregation, based upon God’s Word, was to be saved. Otherwise,‘a little leaven would ferment the whole lump,’ that is, a spiritually corrupting influence would permeate the congregation and Jehovah would cut off that congregation.

Today it is just as vital that the congregation’s spirit, based on Jehovah’s inspired Word, be saved.(1 Cor. 5:6)
Student

Puerto Peñasco, Mexico

#38061 Jan 16, 2014
lovewithin wrote:
<quoted text>
When Jesus comes into your heart , you will TRULY know Him ...
Do you even KNOW what Jesus did?... He DIED for your sins, student!!!!! He shed His blood on the cross for you and me and ALL of us student....okay you say it was a STAKE or pole.....that is no problem.....Jesus shed His blood on a stake or pole for you and me and us ALL!!
There you go with those stupid questions again.. No student ....the only knowledge you NEED of Jesus Christ is that He died for your sins.....to be SAVED.... Believeth on the Lord Jesus Christ for everlasting life. That was the good news to be spread throughout the nations....why is that so hard for you to understand?
Jehovah has given us many things, but his greatest gift to us is the ransom sacrifice of his Son, Jesus Christ.(Matthew 20:28)

When Adam disobeyed God and was condemned to death, he paid a very high price. His sin cost him his perfect human life with all its blessings.(Genesis 3:17-19) Sadly, Adam lost this precious life not only for himself but also for his future offspring. God’s Word says:“Through one man [Adam] sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned.”(Romans 5:12) Yes, all of us have inherited sin from Adam. Hence, the Bible says that he “sold” himself and his offspring into slavery to sin and death.(Romans 7:14)

Since a perfect human life was lost, no imperfect human life could ever buy it back.(Psalm 49:7, 8) What was needed was a ransom equal in value to what was lost. This is in harmony with the principle of perfect justice found in God’s Word, which says:“Soul will be for soul.”(Deuteronomy 19:21) So, what would cover the value of the perfect human soul, or life, that Adam lost? Another perfect human life was the “corresponding ransom” that was required.(1 Timothy 2:6)

Cont...
Student

Puerto Peñasco, Mexico

#38062 Jan 16, 2014
How did Jehovah provide the ransom? He sent one of his perfect spirit sons to the earth. But Jehovah did not send just any spirit creature. He sent the one most precious to him, his only-begotten Son.(1 John 4:9, 10) Willingly, this Son left his heavenly home.(Philippians 2:7)

Jehovah performed a miracle when he transferred the life of this Son to the womb of Mary. By means of God’s holy spirit, Jesus was born as a perfect human and was not under the penalty of sin.(Luke 1:35)

Recall that by sinning, Adam lost the precious possession of perfect human life. Hence, he could not pass it on to his offspring. Instead, he could pass on only sin and death.

Jesus, whom the Bible calls “the last Adam,” had a perfect human life, and he never sinned.(1 Corinthians 15:45) In a sense, Jesus stepped into Adam’s place in order to save us. By sacrificing, or giving up, his perfect life in flawless obedience to God, Jesus paid the price for Adam’s sin. Jesus thus brought hope to Adam’s offspring.(Romans 5:19; 1 Corinthians 15:21, 22)

How was the ransom paid?

On the 14th day of the Jewish month Nisan in 33 C.E., God allowed his perfect and sinless Son to be executed. Jesus thus sacrificed his perfect human life “once for all time.”(Hebrews 10:10)

On the third day after Jesus died, Jehovah raised him back to spirit life. In heaven, Jesus presented to God the value of his perfect human life sacrificed as a ransom in exchange for Adam’s offspring.(Hebrews 9:24)

Jehovah accepted the value of Jesus’ sacrifice as the ransom needed to deliver mankind from slavery to sin and death.(Romans 3:23, 24)

“The wages sin pays is death,” says Romans 6:23. The same verse adds:“But the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord.” All those future blessings, including life everlasting in perfect health, are made possible because Jesus died for us. To receive those blessings, we need to show that we appreciate the gift of the ransom.

Jesus himself said:“He that exercises faith in the Son has everlasting life.”(John 3:36)

How can we exercise faith in Jesus?

Such faith is not shown by words alone.“Faith without works is dead,” says James 2:26. Yes, true faith is proved by “works,” that is, by our actions. One way to show that we have faith in Jesus is by doing our best to imitate him not just in what we say but also in what we do.(John 13:15)
yon

Miami Beach, FL

#38063 Jan 16, 2014
Student wrote:
<quoted text......waiting student>

The importance of preserving a congregation’s spirit was emphasized in ancient Corinth. The apostle Paul learned that among the Christians in that city sexual immorality was being tolerated,“such fornication as is not even among the nations, that a wife a certain man has of his father.”(1 Cor. 5:1)
Overseers of that congregation had not expelled (disfellowshipped) this person, but Paul urged them to “hand such a man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh.” They were to put him out of the Christian congregation into the world ruled by Satan the Devil and where destruction awaits.(1 John 5:19)
Why take this action? As Paul said,“in order that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord,” Jesus Christ.(1 Cor. 5:3-5)
This man had to be disfellowshipped if the “spirit,” or spirituality of the congregation, based upon God’s Word, was to be saved. Otherwise,‘a little leaven would ferment the whole lump,’ that is, a spiritually corrupting influence would permeate the congregation and Jehovah would cut off that congregation.
Today it is just as vital that the congregation’s spirit, based on Jehovah’s inspired Word, be saved.(1 Cor. 5:6)
How does any of this harmonize with the words of Messiah that would give elders the job of expelling members and determining repentance where they sit in secret as judge, jury and executioners?
yon

Miami Beach, FL

#38064 Jan 16, 2014
1Cor 5:1 - btw - involved a gross and notorious situation. Not like jw's today who hold judicial committees that result in the loving expulsion of 10's of thousands, most of whom never return due to the ongoing humiliation of UNBIBLICAL restrictions for months even when they've been reinstated.
yon

Miami Beach, FL

#38065 Jan 16, 2014
And not returning is no sweat off the brow of the elders as it saves them time they'd rather spend entertaining each other or looking for other enemies because when a person is df'd they are to be thought of, according to the wtbt$$$, as legally dead anyway, like a prisoner who was shot by the gestapo trying to escape

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#38066 Jan 16, 2014
Student wrote:
Illustrating this other aspect of Jesus’“name” is his prophetic warning that his followers would be “objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name.”(Mt 24:9; also Mt 10:22; Joh 15:20, 21; Ac 9:15, 16)
Clearly, this would be, not because his name represented that of a Ransomer or Redeemer, but because it represented God’s appointed Ruler, the King of kings, to whom all nations should bow in submission or else experience destruction.(Re 19:11-16; compare Ps 2:7-12)
So, too, it is certain that when demons gave in to Jesus’ command to get out of persons they possessed, they did so, not on the basis of Jesus’ being a sacrificial Lamb of God, but on account of the authority for which his name stood as the anointed representative of the Kingdom, the one with authority to call for, not merely one legion, but a dozen legions of angels, capable of expelling any demons who might stubbornly resist the order to leave.(Mr 5:1-13; 9:25-29; Mt 12:28, 29; 26:53; compare Da 10:5, 6, 12, 13.)
Jesus’ faithful apostles were authorized to use his name to expel demons, both before and after his death.(Lu 9:1; 10:17; Ac 16:16-18)
When Jesus’ followers referred to his “name” they frequently employed the expression “the Lord Jesus” or “our Lord Jesus Christ.”(Ac 8:16; 15:26; 19:5, 13, 17; 1Co 1:2, 10; Eph 5:20; Col 3:17)
They recognized him as their Lord not only because he was their divinely appointed Repurchaser and Owner by virtue of his ransom sacrifice (1Co 6:20; 7:22, 23; 1Pe 1:18, 19; Jude 4) but also because of his kingly position and authority. It was in the full regal as well as priestly authority represented by Jesus’ name that his followers:
preached (Ac 5:29-32, 40-42),
baptized disciples (Mt 28:18-20; Ac 2:38; compare 1Co 1:13-15),
disfellowshipped immoral persons (1Co 5:4, 5),
and exhorted and instructed the Christian congregations they shepherded (1Co 1:10; 2Th 3:6).
It follows, then, that those approved for life by Jesus could never put faith in, or render allegiance to, some other “name” as representing God’s authority to rule but must show unbreakable loyalty to the “name” of this divinely commissioned King, the Lord Jesus Christ.(Mt 12:18, 21; Re 2:13; 3:8)

Here again we see that student cannot answer and simply quotes apostate literature (WTBTS) dogma without any comprehension of the Bible.

Student is not guided by the spirit or he could answer without reference to apostate literature or even to the "Bible".

Understanding is top down, not bottom up.

Real understanding is Spirit, Bible then Church. NEVER is understanding Church then Bible then Spirit.

You can become a true Christian Student. What are you waiting for. 99% of what the WTBTS tells you is false. It is your choice. If you reject the spirit of God and continue worshiping a false God then what will become of you?

Worth thinking about.

Pray to God to help you find the true way. Maybe it is your path to come out of the JW, become a Christian and save the other souls in the JW. Yahweh works in mysterious ways.

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#38067 Jan 16, 2014
Student wrote:
How did Jehovah provide the ransom? He sent one of his perfect spirit sons to the earth. But Jehovah did not send just any spirit creature. He sent the one most precious to him, his only-begotten Son.(1 John 4:9, 10) Willingly, this Son left his heavenly home.(Philippians 2:7)
Jehovah performed a miracle when he transferred the life of this Son to the womb of Mary. By means of God’s holy spirit, Jesus was born as a perfect human and was not under the penalty of sin.(Luke 1:35)
Recall that by sinning, Adam lost the precious possession of perfect human life. Hence, he could not pass it on to his offspring. Instead, he could pass on only sin and death.
Jesus, whom the Bible calls “the last Adam,” had a perfect human life, and he never sinned.(1 Corinthians 15:45) In a sense, Jesus stepped into Adam’s place in order to save us. By sacrificing, or giving up, his perfect life in flawless obedience to God, Jesus paid the price for Adam’s sin. Jesus thus brought hope to Adam’s offspring.(Romans 5:19; 1 Corinthians 15:21, 22)
How was the ransom paid?

Another failure. Another example of plagiarism.

You quote your source, boy. That is the LAW.

On the 14th day of the Jewish month Nisan in 33 C.E., God allowed his perfect and sinless Son to be executed. Jesus thus sacrificed his perfect human life “once for all time.”(Hebrews 10:10)
On the third day after Jesus died, Jehovah raised him back to spirit life. In heaven, Jesus presented to God the value of his perfect human life sacrificed as a ransom in exchange for Adam’s offspring.(Hebrews 9:24)
Jehovah accepted the value of Jesus’ sacrifice as the ransom needed to deliver mankind from slavery to sin and death.(Romans 3:23, 24)
“The wages sin pays is death,” says Romans 6:23. The same verse adds:“But the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord.” All those future blessings, including life everlasting in perfect health, are made possible because Jesus died for us. To receive those blessings, we need to show that we appreciate the gift of the ransom.
Jesus himself said:“He that exercises faith in the Son has everlasting life.”(John 3:36)
How can we exercise faith in Jesus?
Such faith is not shown by words alone.“Faith without works is dead,” says James 2:26. Yes, true faith is proved by “works,” that is, by our actions. One way to show that we have faith in Jesus is by doing our best to imitate him not just in what we say but also in what we do.(John 13:15)

Deception, plagiarism and cowardice. Very typical for you, boy.

Do your own writing. Write from the spirit. You will be surprised at that the spirit tells you.

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#38068 Jan 16, 2014
Student wrote:
How did Jehovah provide the ransom?

Who knows how a false god pays ransom.

But Yahweh does not pay ransom to himself. Such a belief is foolishness and an abomination to the one true Elohim, Yahweh!

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#38069 Jan 16, 2014
Student wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I know what scripture you are referring to: 1 John 5:7, 8:
KJ reads:“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.”(Dy also includes this Trinitarian passage.)
However, NW does not include the words “in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth.”(RS, NE, TEV, JB, NAB also leave out the Trinitarian passage.)

More ignorance. Trinitarianism is paganism, pure and simple. I will give credit to the JW the few things they actually get right.

[QUOTE who="Student "]<quoted text> I really think you had better study the Bible, as it can be seen that, while Jesus’ death on a torture stake plays a vital part in human salvation,

No. This is an error that was not part of original Christianity. Substitutionary sacrifice is NOT acceptable under God's law. Jesus provided an alternative way to salvation, but not through his sacrifice. Read your Bible and have a good source for the origins of that translation as you go along. A SCHOLARLY (not amateur translation like the NWT) translation.
Student wrote:
<quoted text>Jesus Christ’s “name,” therefore, is more excellent than that of God’s angels, in that his name embraces or stands for the vast executive authority that Jehovah has placed in him.(Heb 1:3, 4)
Only those who willingly recognize that “name” and bow to it, subjecting themselves to the authority it represents, will gain life eternal.(Ac 4:12; Eph 1:19-23; Php 2:9-11),

Recognizing the name (Yeshuah) is important. So how much more important is recognizing the name of the Father, Yahweh. Think about it before you use a "name" that is an ERROR. A name NOT belonging to the One True God.

And I see the JW cult member still using the error of "torture stake" in spite of recent archeology proving that it was indeed a caped cross.

Learn to think for yourself and study the bible with only the spirit.
yon

Miami Beach, FL

#38070 Jan 16, 2014
Student wrote:
Such faith is not shown by words alone.“Faith without works is dead,” says James 2:26. Yes, true faith is proved by “works,” that is, by our actions. One way to show that we have faith in Jesus is by doing our best to imitate him not just in what we say but also in what we do.(John 13:15)
How do jw's imitate him? Do they keep the 10 Commandments, Holy days, etc, like he did?
yon

Miami Beach, FL

#38071 Jan 16, 2014
Psalm 32:9
"Be ye not as the horse, or as the mule, which have no understanding; Whose trappings must be bit and bridle(WTBT$$$$) to hold them in, Else they will not come near unto thee."
lovewithin

Denver, CO

#38072 Jan 16, 2014
Student wrote:
How did Jehovah provide the ransom? He sent one of his perfect spirit sons to the earth.
He sent ONE of His spirit sons?????? How many did he have ...student??????

So, it is by WORKS that we are saved,, student??????? Does these works show we are saved.....student?

So, we are to imitate Jesus, copy Him...student?????

Satan wants to IMITATE Jesus, so we will think it is "Jesus when He returns" Satan wants to be LIKE the most High! Satan , wants to show OUTWARD appearance only.....not INWARD.. from the Heart....student.

Student ....you are a LIAR. You go ahead and put on your FAKE appearance of "Believing in the Lord Jesus Christ"

Student ...I suggest to you :

Student...ask Jesus into your Heart.

Student....stay away fron the Kingdom Hells
Student.....do not read the watch tower magazines lies
Student....do not read the little black book NWT, that changed the wording.

The "trinity" is too difficult for you to understand.
Think of it this way ........it is our "Spiritual FAMILY.....as ONE

Student......do some "Thinking" on your own.........don't just be a FAKE, a LIAR, and a THEIF

Student........Can you answer any questions on your OWN????? without spitting out HALF a scripture, to try to PROVE your answer?????

I noticed you said the "trinity" was about the ONLY thing Jw's get right!!!!!! LOL.....what a cut throat you are ...student......

I know several Jw's that work for the government.....but yet they wont salute the flag of the United States of America.......nor honor our Military that fight for our country ,

Yes FAKERS are a good word for JW's

Question .....student.......do you think you will DIE one of these days??

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#38073 Jan 16, 2014
lovewithin wrote:
<quoted text>
He sent ONE of His spirit sons?????? How many did he have ...student??????
So, it is by WORKS that we are saved,, student??????? Does these works show we are saved.....student?
So, we are to imitate Jesus, copy Him...student?????
Satan wants to IMITATE Jesus, so we will think it is "Jesus when He returns" Satan wants to be LIKE the most High! Satan , wants to show OUTWARD appearance only.....not INWARD.. from the Heart....student.
Student ....you are a LIAR. You go ahead and put on your FAKE appearance of "Believing in the Lord Jesus Christ"
Student ...I suggest to you :
Student...ask Jesus into your Heart.
Student....stay away fron the Kingdom Hells
Student.....do not read the watch tower magazines lies
Student....do not read the little black book NWT, that changed the wording.
The "trinity" is too difficult for you to understand.
Think of it this way ........it is our "Spiritual FAMILY.....as ONE
Student......do some "Thinking" on your own.........don't just be a FAKE, a LIAR, and a THEIF
Student........Can you answer any questions on your OWN????? without spitting out HALF a scripture, to try to PROVE your answer?????
I noticed you said the "trinity" was about the ONLY thing Jw's get right!!!!!! LOL.....what a cut throat you are ...student......
I know several Jw's that work for the government.....but yet they wont salute the flag of the United States of America.......nor honor our Military that fight for our country ,
Yes FAKERS are a good word for JW's
Question .....student.......do you think you will DIE one of these days??
SUGAR
PSALM 82;6...
TELL US THAT ALL OBEY CHILDREN OF GOD AS GODS SONS,'first beggoten before foundation of the world rev 13;8 was and is Spiritual so called in OT Angel of the Yhaveh- NT Jesus who took human body,enter earth to redeem His obey children by Grace of His Ancient of Days YAHVEH
SO JESUS WAS AND IS FIRST BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD,
According to Isaiah 9;5 JESUS IS MIGHT GOD(hebrew EL GIBBOR) Jesus is not Akmighty father(hebrew EL ,SHADDAI- G-D HA SHEM Ancient of days)
but unity is like ONE but Bible nowhere say about trinity,not jews till today doesn't worship God as TRINITY
I gave you earlier Bible proof who Jesus is
UNITY AND PURPOSE OF ONE ETERNAL PLANE MAKES GOD ,JESUS AND HIS DISCIPLES OF 144000 AS ONE GOD HEAD BEING NEW HEAVEN ORDER WITHOUT OF SATAN CORRUPTION IN THE FUTURE HEAVEN AND NEW EARTH

Many case JW are right,
only mostly they Interprate Bible literaly and are unsaved by grace organization
ONLY GOD SAVES SOME SINGLE ONES FROM JW OR CHURCHES.
BECAUSE NOWHERE BIBLIE SAY THAT ONLY CHRISTIANS OR JW WILL BE SAVED AND OTHERS DAMNED
Bible promise is for them who repent and be accepted only by Gods Grace Rom8;16-17

sweety
quote Bible passages to Student,and Bible Spirit maybe allow him to be only with Bible,Jesus and be saved

your attacks doesn't help him,nor anyone,
just please> don't follow Dogen or Yon Lies kids having not clue what Bible is, what and who are true believers or who are JW cought in the wicked bondage of their leaders and satan spirit

May God bless you sugar, your posts display faith,compassion and love,
and only you can help to be more closser for Student to be with Bible Gods Word directly,

because he got excuses for not attending KH,or preaching from door to door,
and he doesn't do it like others JW,
there is Gods misterious purpose to keep Student on this topic, to post texts and discuss with you,

only just Dogen and big dumb low IQ error,like satan seed hating all who are agist his childlish short evil posts,

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#38074 Jan 16, 2014
yon wrote:
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How do jw's imitate him? Do they keep the 10 Commandments, Holy days, etc, like he did?
2 Jesus Comandments are Jesus Fulfiment of NT law of AGAPE LOVE?

It is free will to celebrate Holy days ,like sabbath
ACCORDING TO JESUS WORDS,THAT SABBATH IS FOR PEOPLE NOT PEOPLE FOR SABBATH(in my not quoted Bible words) also every single free chrsitian have free will to chose holidays to celebrate them or not?

OT ceremonial law was removed together with last prophet John Baptist9by beheading John Baptism ceremonial law stop to exists,and NE SPIRITUAL PROPHET,REDEEMER SON OF GOD JESUS,
ESTABLISH NT LAW ,IN 2 COMMANDMENTS FULFILLING OT CEREMONIAL LAWS AND ANCIENT PROPHETS TO SPIRITUAL KINDOM OF GOD IN HEAVEN AND NEW SPIRITUAL JEWISH TEMPLE,TEMPLE IN HEAVEN IN HIM,2 Thess 2;1

So, studying Bible never open your eyes,
but grace by God can makes you HIS CHICLD, BE BORN AGAIN FROM DIRECT BIBLIE HOLY SPIRIT INTEVENTION,JOHN 1;13,3;3-8.EZEK 36L24;28.ROMANS 8;16;17

have nice day my son
ask yoursleves?
WHO HAS ALLOWED YOU TO PRACTICE DAILY ACCUSATIONS AND MALICE?
Practice so much everyday that judgements will surely overtake you,and for sure some day without of your thinking ,you start to be CHATTA IM)child of satan)
just be carefull
JW didn't harm you,
your get own spiritual injuries by yourselves that is all?

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