Jehovah's Witnesses are true disciple...
Student

Oregon City, OR

#36291 Sep 6, 2013
How Can You Choose a good religion?

Are All Religions Good?

We live in a world of staggering religions diversity. One recent survey identified 19 major faiths and some 10,000 smaller religions worldwide. This variety offers people unprecedented religious choice. So does it matter which religion you choose?

Some people say that different religious are like different road leading up a mountain. To them, it does not matter which road they choose, since all roads lead to the same place. They reason that there is only one Almighty God, so all religions must ultimately lead to him.

Do All Roads Lead to God?

What did Jesus Christ, one of the most respected religious teachers in history, say on this subject?“Enter through the narrow gate,” he told his disciples. Why?“For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only few find it.”--Matthew 7:13, 14, The Holy Bible--New International Version.

Was Jesus really saying that some religions lead “to destruction”? Or was he teaching that only unbelievers are on the broad road, whereas those who believe in God-no matter what their religion-are on the narrow road that leads to life?

Immediately after stating that there are only two roads, Jesus said:“Be careful of false prophets. They come to you looking gentle like sheep, but they are really dangerous like wolves.”(Matthew 7:15, New Century Version) Lather he said:“Not everyone who calls me ‘Lord, Lord’ will enter the Kingdom of heaven, but only those who do what my Father in heaven wants them to do.”(Matthew 7:21, Today’s English Version) If someone is called a prophet or claims that Jesus is his “Lord,” it is reasonable to say that he is a religious person, not an unbeliever. Clearly, then, Jesus was warning that not all religions are good and not all religious teachers should be trusted.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO IDENTIFY THE NARROW ROAD?

Since not all roads lead to God, how can you find among the thousands of options the narrow road that leads to life? Consider this illustration: Imagine that you are lost in a big city. You decide to ask for help. One person confidently tells you to go east. Another urges you to head west. Yet another suggests that you choose whatever direction feels best to you. Finally, a fellow traveler takes out a reliable map and shows you the correct route. He then gives you the map so that you can refer to it along the way. Would you not feel more confident of reaching your destination?

So, too, when it comes to choosing the right religious road, we need a reliable spiritual road map. Does one exist? Yes, it does. That map is the Bible, which declares:“All scriptures is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.”--2 Timothy 3:16, King James Version.

You likely have available in your language a translation of the Bible that you can use as a spiritual road map. The publishers of the journal, Jehovah’s Witnesses, produce a reliable Bible translation known as the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures. However, if you are not one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, you may prefer to use other translations when considering the subject of identifying good and bad religion. Therefore, this series of articles quotes from a number of Bible translations that are widely respected by other religious denominations.

As you read the following articles, compare what you know with what the Bible says. Keep in mind Jesus’ words regarding how we can distinguish good religion from bad. He said:“A good tree produces good fruit, and a bad tree produces bad fruit. A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot produce good fruit.”(Matthew 7:17, 18, Contemporary English Version”)

Consider just three of the good fruits that the Bible says would identify the “good tree.”

Cont...
Student

Oregon City, OR

#36292 Sep 6, 2013
GOOD RELIGION PROMOTES High Moral Standards

Good religion elevates our thinking and shows us how to improve our conduct. It supports us in the struggle to do what is right and brings out the best in us. How do we know that good religion does that?

Notice what the apostle Paul wrote to first-century Christians who lived in Corinth, Greece. That ancient city was notorious for its immoral lifestyle. Paul warned:“Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the Kingdom of God.” Then Paul added:“And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.”(1 Corinthians 6:9-11, The Holy Bible-New International Version) Imagine--good religion helped some who were formerly without moral standards to become clean and upright servants of God!

By contrast, the Bible warns:“The time will come when people will not listen to sound doctrine, but will follow their own desires and will collect for themselves more and more teachers who will tell them what they are itching to hear.”(2 Timothy 4:3, Today’s English Version)

How do the religions that you know of measure up in this regard? Do they uphold the Bible’s high moral standards? Or do they water down the clear counsel found in God’s Word, telling people only “what they are itching to hear?”

To help you determine whether a particular religion is producing good fruit, why not take the time to answer the follow questions?

TOPIC: Marriage.

WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES:“Marriage should be honored by everyone, and husband and wife should keep their marriage pure. God will judge as guilty those who take part in sexual sins.”(Hebrews 13:4, New Century Version)

QUESTION: Does this religion require that among its members, couples who live together be legally married?

TOPIC: Divorce

WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES: When asked whether there was ever any grounds for divorce, Jesus said:“Whoever puts away his wife, except for immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”(Matthew 19:9, New Catholic Edition of the Holy Bible)

QUESTION: Does this religion respect Jesus’ direction and allow divorce and remarriage--but only on the grounds of immorality?

TOPIC: Sexual morality.

WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES:“Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body.”(1 Corinthians 6:18, NIV)

“Even the women pervert the natural use of their sex by unnatural acts. In the same way the men give up natural sexual relations with women and burn with passion for each other. Men do shameful things with each other, and as a result they bring upon themselves the punishment they deserve for their wrongdoing.”(Romans 1:26. 27, TEV)

QUESTION: Does this religion teach that sexual immorality either between a man and a woman or between a couple of the same sex is a sin?

TOPIC: Courageously uphold Bible standards among its members.

WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES:“You must not associate with those who call themselves believers in Christ but who sin sexually, or are greedy, or worship idols, or abuse others with words, or get drunk, or cheat people. Do not even eat with people like that.”(1 Corinthians 5:11, NCV) What should happen to those who claim to be Christians but who are unrepentant sinners:“Expel the wicked man from among you,” states God’s Word.(1Corinthians 5:13, NIV)

QUESTION: Does this religion remove from its membership roll any who unrepentantly ignore Bible standards?

Which religion has a reputation for upholding the Bible’s high moral standards?

Cont...
Student

Oregon City, OR

#36293 Sep 6, 2013
GOOD RELIGION PROMOTES Brotherly Love

“HE WHO does not love does not know God; for God is love,” states the Bible.(1 John 4:8, New Catholic Edition of the Holy Bible) God religion, therefore, should promote brotherly love.

Many religions do an admirable job of caring for the sick, the elderly, and the poor. They encourage their members to apply the counsel of the apostle John, who wrote:“Suppose someone has enough to live and sees a brother or sister in need, but does not help. Then God’s love is not living in the person. My children, we should love people not only with words and talk, but by our actions and true caring.”(1 John 3:17, 18, New Century Version)

What happens, though, when nations go to war? Should God’s command to “love thy neighbor as thyself” be applied in times of peace but be suspended when a politician or a king chooses to fight a neighbor nation?(Matthew 22:39, King James Version)

Jesus said:“By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”(John 13:35, New International Version) As you answer the following questions, ask yourself,‘Do members of this religion display love toward all men at all times not only with words but also with action?’

TOPIC: War.

WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES: Jesus commanded his disciple:“I say to you, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you.”(Matthew 5:44, NCE)

When soldiers came to arrest Jesus, the apostle Peter drew a weapon to defend him. However, Jesus said:“Put your sword back in its place. All who use swords will be killed with swords.”(Matthew 26:52, NCV)

The apostle John wrote:“You can tell God’s children from the devil’s children, because those who belong to the devil refuse to do right or to love each other. From the beginning you were told that we must love each other. Don’t be like Cain, who belonged to the devil and murdered his own brother.”(1 John 3:10-12, Contemporary English Version)

QUESTION: Does this religion encourage it members to participate in warfare?

TOPIC: Politics.

WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES: After witnessing Jesus’ ability to perform miracles, some wanted him to become involved in local politics. His response?“Jesus knowing that they intended to come and make him king by force, withdrew again to a mountain by himself.”(John 6:15, NIV)

When Jesus was arrested and falsely accused of being a political agitator, he replied:“My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not form the world.”(John 18:36, English Standard Version.)

When praying to God about the disciples Jesus said:“I have given them your word, and the world has hated them because they do not belong to the world, just as I do not belong to the world.”(John 17:14. Mew Revised Standard Version)

QUESTION: Does this religion follow Jesus’ example and avoid becoming involved in politics, even if that means that its member will be hated by some politicians?

TOPIC: Prejudice.

WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES: When the first uncircumcised non-Jews became Christians, the apostle Peter remarked:“God doesn’t show favoritism, but in every nation the person who fears Him and does righteousness is acceptable to Him.”(Acts 10:34, 35, Holman Christian Standard Bible)

Writing to first-century Christians, James said:“My friends, if you have faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ, you won’t treat some people better than others. Suppose a rich person wearing fancy clothes and a gold ring comes to one of your meetings. And suppose a poor person dressed in worn-out clothes also comes. You must not give the best seat to the one in fancy clothes and tell the one who is poor to stand at the side or sit on the floor. That is the same as saying that some people are better than others, and you would be acting like a crooked judge.”(James 2:1-4, CEV)

Cont...
Student

Oregon City, OR

#36294 Sep 6, 2013
QUESTION: Does the religion teach that all people are equal in God’s sight and that members of the religion should not discriminate against anyone on the basis of race or economic standings?

Which religion teaches its members to overcome political, racial and economic barriers that divide people?

GOOD RELIGION PROMOTES Respect for God’s Word

JESUS promoted respect for God’s Word, the Bible. This fact is evident from the way he replied when tempted by the Devil.(Matthew 4:4-11) For example, how did Jesus react when Satan challenged him to turn some stones into loaves of bread? Jesus rejected the temptation by quoting Moses’ inspired words, which you can read at Deuteronomy 8:3. And when the Devil offered Jesus rulership over all the kingdoms of the world in exchange for just one act of worship, how did Jesus reply? He refused the offer by referring to a Scriptural principle that you can find at Deuteronomy 6:13.

Just think! Even though he was God’s own Son, Jesus relied on the Bible as his authority when teaching. And he certainly never ignored God’s Word in favor of human tradition.(John 7:16-18) However, many of the religious leaders of Jesus’ day did not share his respect for God’s Word. Why not? They had allowed human tradition to overshadow the Sacred Scriptures. Jesus bluntly told those religious men:“You have revoked God’s Word because of your tradition. Hypocrites! Isaiah prophesied correctly about you when he said:‘These people honor Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. They worship Me in vain, teaching as doctrines the commands of Men.’”(Matthew 15:6-9, Holman Christian Standard Bible.)

Many of the world’s religions, Christian and non-Christian alike, claim to respect the Bible. Nevertheless, how many religions do you know of that discard human traditions when these clash with clear teaching found in God’s Word? Consider just two examples.

TOPIC: Religious titles.

WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES: Jesus condemned the religious leaders of his day for their love of titles and their desire for prominence. He said that those men loved “the first place at suppers and the front seat in the synagogues, and greetings in the market place, and to be called by men ‘Rabbi.’” Jesus told his disciples:“Do not you be called ‘Rabbi’; for one is your Master, and all you are brothers. And call no one on earth your father; for one is your Father, who is in heaven.”(Matthew 23:1-10, New Catholic Edition of the Holy Bible.)

QUESTION: Do leaders of this religion like to be called by honorific titles and seek prominence in the community, or do they obey Jesus’ command to avoid doing so?

TOPIC: Use of images in worship.

WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES:“You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them.”(Exodus 20:4, 5, English Standard Version)

The apostle John wrote to Christians:“You must stay away from idols.”(1 John 5:21, Contemporary English Version)

QUESTION: Does this religion obey the Bible’s clear command to avoid the use of images and idols in the worship of God?

Cont...
Student

Oregon City, OR

#36295 Sep 6, 2013
You Can Find the Right Path

Despite the bewildering number of religious paths available today, you can find the one that leads to life. There are many identifying marks of the “religion that is pure and undefiled before God.”(James 1:27, New Revised Standard Version) The scriptures discussed in these articles can act as signposts that help direct you to that religion.

Why not ask Jehovah’s Witnesses to explain their answers to the questions raised in these articles?

As you examine what they say, follow the good example of those who lived during the first century in the city of Beroea. After hearing the apostle Paul preach,“they studied the Scriptures to see if what Paul said was really true.”(Acts 17:11, Today’s English Version) If, like the Beroeans, you respect God’s Word and diligently study it, you will find the path to life. Whether you then walk down that path is a choice you will have to make.

Which religion encourages people to study the Scriptures to see if what they are learning is really true?

Goto jw.org and ask for a home Bible Study

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#36297 Sep 6, 2013
Student wrote:
How Can You Choose a good religion?
Avoid mind control cults and ones where the leadership does not practice what they preach.


Student wrote:
Are All Religions Good?
Obviously not. Take a look at the Jehovah Witnesses, Unification Church, Mormons, Scientology....

They all have the aim of controlling your mind and then your pocketbook.

By their fruits ye shall know them. And these bear some rotten fruit.

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#36301 Sep 6, 2013
Let the JWs speak for themselves:
All of the below are ACTUAL JW propaganda quotes.

"Persons who deliberately spread (stubbornly hold to and speak about) teachings contrary to Bible truth as taught by Jehovah's Witnesses are apostates." Pay Attention to Yourself and to All the Flock p.94

"Some apostates are increasingly using various forms of mass communication, including the Internet, to spread false information about Jehovah's Witnesses." Watchtower 2000 May 1 p.10

"True Christians share Jehovah's feelings toward such apostates; they are not curious about apostate ideas. On the contrary, they "feel a loathing" toward those who have made themselves God's enemies, but they leave it to Jehovah to execute vengeance." Watchtower 1993 Nov 1 p.19

"Where could we turn if we would leave God's organization today? There is nowhere else!(John 6:66-69)" Watchtower 1975 Sep 1 p.531

Bible: 1 Timothy 2:5 "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus," vs.
Watchtower: "So in this strict Biblical sense Jesus is the "mediator" only for anointed Christians." Watchtower 1979 Apr 1 p.31


Bible: John 14:6 "Jesus said to him: "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." "John 17:3 "This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ." VS.
Watchtower: "Through the new covenant, Jehovah makes blessings available to many by means of a few. Those in the covenant are few, a mere 144,000. Through them, millions from all nations will be blessed with everlasting life in an earthly paradise. Some who are in the new covenant serve Jehovah on earth today. They alone properly partake of the bread and the wine because the cup "means the new covenant."" Watchtower 2012 Mar 1 p.17

Who is the Bible for - the Leaders!
"Special attention was being given to making up the government that would rule mankind for 1,000 years, and nearly all the inspired letters in the Christian Greek Scriptures are primarily directed to this group of Kingdom heirs-"the holy ones," "partakers of the heavenly calling." United in Worship p.111

"Also, it is to the spirit-anointed Christians who will rule in that kingdom that most of the Christian Greek Scriptures is directed, including the promises of everlasting life." Watchtower 1974 Jun 15 p.376

"All of this should impress upon the minds of the other sheep why the Christian Greek Scriptures focus so much attention on Christ and his anointed brothers and their central role in the outworking of Jehovah's purposes. The other sheep therefore consider it a privilege to support in every way possible the anointed slave class while awaiting "the revealing of the sons of God" at Armageddon and during the Millennium." Watchtower 2002 Feb 1 p.23

Wow. Just WOW!

Minions of Satan!

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#36302 Sep 6, 2013
Student

Oregon City, OR

#36303 Sep 6, 2013
Dogen wrote:
<quoted text> Avoid mind control cults and ones where the leadership does not practice what they preach.
<quoted text> Obviously not. Take a look at the Jehovah Witnesses, Unification Church, Mormons, Scientology....
They all have the aim of controlling your mind and then your pocketbook.
By their fruits ye shall know them. And these bear some rotten fruit.
Yes, you can tell by their fruit Dogen........Which religion encourages people to study the Scriptures to see if what they are learning is really true?

The foundation for fine Christian fruitage is noted at 1 John 5:3, which states:“This is what the love of God means, that we observe his commandments.” And a basic commandment is this:“You must love your neighbor as yourself.”(Matthew 22:39) Thus, God’s true servants must have love for their neighbors regardless of their race or nationality.(Matthew 5:43-48; Romans 12:17-21)

Especially must God’s servants have love for those who are their spiritual brothers.“If anyone makes the statement:‘I love God,’ and yet is hating his brother, he is a liar. For he who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot be loving God, whom he has not seen. And this commandment we have from him, that the one who loves God should be loving his brother also.”(1 John 4:20, 21)

That love, Jesus said, would be an identifying mark of true Christians:“By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.”(John 13:35; see also Romans 14:19; Galatians 6:10; 1 John 3:10-12)

Brotherly love is the “glue” that binds God’s servants in unity:“Clothe yourselves with love, for it is a perfect bond of union.”(Colossians 3:14)

And true Christians must be at unity with their brothers worldwide, for God’s Word commands:“You should all speak in agreement ... There should not be divisions among you ... Be fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought.”(1 Corinthians 1:10)

To maintain this love and unity on a global scale, God’s servants must be neutral in the political affairs of this world. Jesus said:“They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world.”(John 17:16)

Jesus demonstrated the extent of what he had in mind when Peter used a sword to strike off the ear of one of the men who had come to arrest Jesus. Did Jesus encourage such use of force even to protect the Son of God against opposers? No, but he said to Peter:“Return your sword to its place.”(Matthew 26:52)

Thus, true Christians do not engage in the wars of the nations or in any other shedding of human blood even if refusal results in their being martyred for their neutral stand, as many have been over the centuries and even in our time. They know that only God’s Kingdom under Christ will eliminate war and bloodshed forever.(Psalm 46:9; Matthew 6:9, 10; 2 Peter 3:11-13)

History confirms that the first-century Christians would not shed human blood. A former professor of theology from England, Peter De Rosa, writes:“Shedding blood was a grievous sin. This was why Christians opposed gladiatorial combat.... While war and the use of force were necessary to preserve Rome, Christians felt unable to join in....

Christians considered themselves, like Jesus, messengers of peace; in no circumstances could they be agents of death.” On the other hand, the disunited religions of Christendom have violated the commandment of love and have shed an enormous amount of blood. They have not been messengers of peace but have repeatedly been agents of death.
Student

Oregon City, OR

#36304 Sep 6, 2013
A key factor is that the Witnesses really believe that the Bible is God’s Word and that what it contains is there for our instruction.(2 Tim. 3:16, 17; Rom. 15:4; 1 Cor. 10:11)

So they do not resort to philosophical arguments to evade its clear statements of truth or to justify the way of life of people who have abandoned its moral standards.

In pointing out the meaning of symbolic language in the Bible, they let the Bible provide its own explanation, instead of giving their theories as to its significance.(1 Cor. 2:13) Indications as to the meaning of symbolic terms are usually found in other parts of the Bible.(As an example, see Revelation 21:1; then, regarding the meaning of “sea,” read Isaiah 57:20. To identify “the Lamb” referred to in Revelation 14:1, see John 1:29 and 1 Peter 1:19.)

As for fulfillment of prophecy, they apply what Jesus said about being alert to events that correspond to what was foretold.(Luke 21:29-31; compare 2 Peter 1:16-19.) Conscientiously they point out those events and draw attention to what the Bible indicates they mean.

FYI goto jw.org
Student

Oregon City, OR

#36305 Sep 6, 2013
Jesus said that he would have on earth a “faithful and discreet slave”(his anointed followers viewed as a group), through which agency he would provide spiritual food to those making up the household of faith.(Matt. 24:45-47) Jehovah’s Witnesses recognize that arrangement. As was true of first-century Christians, they look to the governing body of that “slave” class to resolve difficult questions—not on the basis of human wisdom, but by drawing on their knowledge of God’s Word and his dealings with his servants, and with the help of God’s spirit, for which they earnestly pray.(Acts 15:1-29; 16:4, 5)

The Bible itself answers that God has put into the Bible what is sufficient, all we really need. It says:“All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.”(2 Timothy 3:16, 17) So the Bible is ample to “make you wise for salvation.”(2 Timothy 3:15) It is “perfect” in this sense.

FYI goto jw.org

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#36306 Sep 6, 2013
http://www.watchtowerdocuments.com/documents/...

http://ia700202.us.archive.org/19/items/Insid...

http://ia801509.us.archive.org/33/items/Milli...

http://ia700202.us.archive.org/23/items/TheGo...

http://ia600307.us.archive.org/19/items/Jehov...

http://ia700401.us.archive.org/9/items/Jehova...

See Watchtowerism is completely refuted.

Based on the Bible.
Based on insider accounts
Based on history.

I need never post again and I would die knowing that the above links completely refute the Watchtower cult.

Student

Oregon City, OR

#36307 Sep 6, 2013
You may accept the Bible as being God’s inspired Word. But how strong is your acceptance? Would it hold up under test? The prophet Jeremiah said:“The word of Jehovah became for me a cause for reproach and for jeering all day long.”(Jer. 20:8)

The experiences of Jehovah’s people in these “last days” have certainly proved Jesus’ words to be true:“Happy are you whenever men hate you, and whenever they exclude you and reproach you and cast out your name as wicked for the sake of the Son of man. Rejoice in that day and leap, for, look! your reward is great in heaven, for those are the same things their forefathers used to do to the prophets.”(Luke 6:22, 23; 2 Timothy 3:1)

Yes, God’s servants can faithfully endure all manner of persecution, and do so joyfully.

FYI togo jw.org

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#36308 Sep 6, 2013
Student wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, you can tell by their fruit Dogen........Which religion encourages people to study the Scriptures to see if what they are learning is really true?

Most of them. Which one DISTORTS the scriptures and ALTERS them to their own end? Are people who would do such things actually followers of Christ?!?!?!

Absolutely no.
Student wrote:
<quoted text> The foundation for fine Christian fruitage ......

Quoting scripture that your cult rapes behind closed doors will do no good. It does not matter what the intention of the founder was or on what Bible verses they quote. The Scribes and Pharisees quoted scripture, but they did not understand the spirit. Like the JW they wilted on the vine.

Student wrote:
<quoted text> Especially must God’s servants have love for those who are their spiritual brothers.

You DO understand that according to the Watchtower NEITHER of us is a spiritual brother. Right? Or did you miss that point.
Student wrote:
<quoted text> That love, Jesus said, would be an identifying mark of true Christians:“By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.”

And again you find a good example of the unholiness of the watchtower cult. They are not true to their brothers. They turn their back on them in a heartbeat if commanded to do so by the spawn of Satan (The WatchTower... INC.).
Student wrote:
<quoted text> And true Christians must be at unity with their brothers worldwide, for God’s Word commands:“You should all speak in agreement ... There should not be divisions among you ... Be fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought.”(1 Corinthians 1:10)

By the spirit of Yahweh, NOT by the whip of the Watchtower overseer. Ye are the AntiChrist. The spawn of Satan. You behave in the manor befitting of your master.
Student wrote:
<quoted text> To maintain this love and unity on a global scale,

Watchtowerites have NO LOVE. They are bots. They like who they are told (conditioned) to like and shun who they are told to shun. They have no divine spark in them.
Student wrote:
<quoted text> Christians considered themselves, like Jesus, messengers of peace;

Jesus commanded his disciples to render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's. Paul commanded disciples to follow the law of the land.

The history of the people of Yahweh is a bloody one. Often he has commanded his armies to war. But you cultists think you are above the law. Are better than anyone else. That you have been chosen. Well, you HAVE been chosen, but not by who you think. You have done as Yahweh predicted, you would forget and even suppress his name. Who but Satan himself would be behind such a plot?

Where does Jesus teach to ignore the truth?

Where does Jesus teach protection for child molesters?

Where does Jesus teach to defile the law if it suits you for your own purposes?

Where does Jesus teach shunning young women for confessing that she had been molested to the legal authorities?????

You cannot answer for the sins of your cult. You cannot answer for their support of Hitler. You cannot answer for their lack of support for the poor. You cannot answer for where BILLIONS of dollars in donations has gone to.

And you are FAR TO COWARDLY to fact the truth of what I have posted.

ALL you can do is cut and paste from the unholy Watchtower tit.

You cannot think for yourself and would be LOST if you had to try.

I feel the deepest pity for you and your deluded ilk.


“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#36309 Sep 6, 2013
Student wrote:
A key factor is that the Witnesses really believe that the Bible is God’s Word and that what it contains is there for our instruction.(2 Tim. 3:16, 17; Rom. 15:4; 1 Cor. 10:11)

This is a lie. ALL Christians believe the Bible is God's word and most denominations understand it far better than the Watchtower cult. If you had the guts you could..... Oh, well, you don't have the guts so I guess that would be a moot point.
Student wrote:
So they do not resort to philosophical arguments to evade its clear statements of truth or to justify the way of life of people who have abandoned its moral standards.

ROTFLMFAO!!!! That is friggin' HYSTERICAL!!!!!!! Turn in all the child molesters and then get back to me on that one.
Student wrote:
In pointing out the meaning of symbolic language in the Bible, they let the Bible provide its own explanation,

In other words they tell you what you will find and show you where to find it. Call that "bible study" cause I don't. That is a sophisticated way of indoctrinating (lying) people into cultic beliefs that only make sense from the inside.
Student wrote:
instead of giving their theories as to its significance.(1 Cor. 2:13) Indications as to the meaning of symbolic terms are usually found in other parts of the Bible.


Yes! This is exactly how they delude you! There are a number of videos online demonstrating how the Watchtower manipulates people into believing exactly as they want them to believe. You are not stupid for falling for it. But you ARE a coward for not seeking the truth as commanded.

You have been duped into eating feces.

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#36316 Sep 6, 2013
Student wrote:
<quoted text>
Paul advised that we obey political rulers? Show us where this is, in the Scriptures.

You don't know your Bible at all, do you cult zombie boy.

Romans 13:1-7

“Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.”

ESV

Of course the JW "translation" (falsely so called) probably says to just blow off the law and do whatever the WATCHTOWER... Inc. says.


Exception noted in Acts 5:27–29.

Learn your Bible and free yourself from the bondage to your cult. Become a servant of Yahweh, instead.

The Spirit can help you understand scripture, no matter what the watchtower (one of Satan's projects on Earth) says.


Student

Oregon City, OR

#36319 Sep 6, 2013
Daily Text


Saturday, September 7

[Moses] looked intently toward the payment of the reward.—Heb. 11:26.

Moses was not distracted by “the temporary enjoyment of sin.”(Heb. 11:25) God and his promises were so real to Moses that he demonstrated extraordinary courage and endurance. He exerted himself untiringly in leading the Israelites out of Egypt to the Promised Land. Yet, Moses did not experience the fulfillment of God’s promise in his lifetime. This was because earlier he and Aaron, exasperated by the people’s rebelliousness,“acted undutifully toward [God] in the middle of the sons of Israel at the waters of Meribah.”(Deut. 32:51, 52) Did Moses become despondent or resentful? No. He pronounced a blessing on the people and concluded with these words:“Happy you are, O Israel! Who is there like you, a people enjoying salvation in Jehovah, the shield of your help, and the One who is your eminent sword?”—Deut. 33:29.(Examining the Scriptures Daily 2013)
Student

Oregon City, OR

#36323 Sep 7, 2013
Dogen wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't know your Bible at all, do you cult zombie boy.
Romans 13:1-7
“Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.”
ESV
Of course the JW "translation" (falsely so called) probably says to just blow off the law and do whatever the WATCHTOWER... Inc. says.
Exception noted in Acts 5:27–29.
Learn your Bible and free yourself from the bondage to your cult. Become a servant of Yahweh, instead.
The Spirit can help you understand scripture, no matter what the watchtower (one of Satan's projects on Earth) says.
These Scriptures in Romans 13:1-7 do NOT TELL Christians to serve in any political service.

Cont...
Student

Oregon City, OR

#36324 Sep 7, 2013
Romans 13:1-7

You bad mouth the New World Bible all the time,but look at this

1- ESV “Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.

1-NWT Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God.

2- ESV Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

2-NWT Therefore he who opposes the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of God; those who have taken a stand against it will receive judgment to themselves.

3- ESV For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you.

3-NWT For those ruling are an object of fear, not to the good deed, but to the bad. Do you, then, want to have no fear of the authority? Keep doing good, and you will have praise from it;

4 ESV For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.

4-NWT for it is God’s minister to you for your good. But if you are doing what is bad, be in fear: for it is not without purpose that it bears the sword; for it is God’s minister, an avenger to express wrath upon the one practicing what is bad.

5- ESV Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.

5 NWT There is therefore compelling reason for YOU people to be in subjection, not only on account of that wrath but also on account of [YOUR] conscience.

6 ESV This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing.

6 NWT For that is why YOU are also paying taxes; for they are God’s public servants constantly serving this very purpose.

7 ESV Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.”

7 NWT Render to all their dues, to him who [calls for] the tax, the tax; to him who [calls for] the tribute, the tribute; to him who [calls for] fear, such fear; to him who [calls for] honor, such honor.

Paul did not tell them, though, to be in absolute subjection with no regard for God, God’s Word and their Christian conscience.

They knew that Jesus had worshiped only Jehovah, that Jesus had refused to let the people make him king and that he had told Peter to put away his sword. They conscientiously adhered to their Master’s lead.

The book On the Road to Civilization—A World History (by Heckel and Sigman, pages 237, 238) reports:“Christians refused to share certain duties of Roman citizens. The Christians ... felt it a violation of their faith to enter military service. They would not hold political office. They would not worship the emperor.”

Regarding political and military controversies of their day, Jesus’ disciples maintained strict neutrality. In the year 66 C.E. the Jews of the Roman province of Judea revolted against Caesar. The Roman army quickly surrounded Jerusalem.

What did Christians in the city do?

They remembered Jesus’ counsel to stay neutral and to get out from between the warring armies. When the Roman army temporarily withdrew, the Christians seized the opportunity and fled across the Jordan River into the mountainous region of Pella.(Luke 21:20-24)

In their neutrality they served as a faithful pattern for later Christians.

Cont...
Student

Oregon City, OR

#36325 Sep 7, 2013
Does the historical record show that any group in this “time of the end,” since 1914 C.E., has pursued a course of Christian neutrality in imitation of those early Christians?

Yes, Jehovah’s Witnesses have done so.

In all the earth they have kept busy preaching that God’s Kingdom is the only means by which peace, prosperity and lasting happiness are possible for lovers of righteousness in all the earth.(Matt. 24:14)

But with regard to controversies among the nations, they have maintained strict neutrality.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Top Stories Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Prove there's a god. (Mar '08) 4 min Buck Crick 854,978
News Roman Catholic church only true church, says Va... (Jul '07) 5 min kent 596,381
The Christian Atheist debate 9 min -Alan S Shole- 1,018
Poll Is homosexuality a sin? (Oct '07) 29 min RiccardoFire 100,753
*** All Time Favorite Songs *** (Dec '10) 1 hr razz58 2,637
Why I’m no longer a Christian (Jul '08) 1 hr ChristineM 444,349
Which is the Oldest Indian Language? Sanskrit V... (Jul '08) 1 hr tamizh 7,337
Why Should Jesus Love Me? (Feb '08) 2 hr Epiphany2 612,626
More from around the web