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Oregon City, OR

#34283 May 10, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> Sadly, there is no logic to follow at all. I studied intensely their practices and it's one of the most confusing I've ever studied. No use of blood transfusion being one that is translated incorrectly. As a former paramedic I can tell you that their explanation of using other things such as plasma, transfusing their own blood and others isn't something that can be used in emergencies and or simple procedures, it doesn't work because of time needed to help the patient effectively. They interpret the use of the passage in the old and new about eating ANIMALS or birds,
Genesis 9:4 "But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it.
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Leviticus 7:26 And wherever you live, you must not eat the blood of any bird or animal. The use of transfusing blood has saved billions of people's lives, and this with the fact that it isn't being consumed in an eating way proves their false doctrine on this subject.
God’s law on blood certainly is not new or unclear. Through our common forefather Noah, Jehovah commanded all mankind:“Flesh with its soul—its blood—you must not eat.”(Genesis 9:4) The sacredness of blood, representing life from God, was stressed in the Mosaic Law. Blood could be used on the altar, but otherwise it was to be ‘poured out on the ground as water.’(Leviticus 17:11-14; Deuteronomy 12:23-25)

Did the prohibition against sustaining life with blood continue after the Mosaic Law ended? Absolutely. At what some might call the first Christian council, the apostles and older men (who comprised the governing body) concluded that Christians must ‘abstain from idolatry, from fornication, from what is strangled [having blood left in] and from blood.’ Misuse of blood was as serious a moral wrong as illicit sex relations.

Acts 15:19-21, 28, 29-
19 Hence my decision is not to trouble those from the nations who are turning to God, 20 but to write them to abstain from things polluted by idols and from fornication and from what is strangled and from blood.
28 For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to YOU, except these necessary things, 29 to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication. If YOU carefully keep yourselves from these things, YOU will prosper. Good health to YOU!”

“I am Sisyphus”

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#34284 May 10, 2013
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Those whom Jesus Christ made “to be a kingdom and priests to our God” are shown as singing a new song in which they say that they were bought by Christ’s blood.(Re 5:9, 10) Further on, the ones singing the new song are enumerated as 144,000 persons “bought from among mankind as firstfruits to God and to the Lamb.”(Re 14:1-5) Finally this underpriesthood is shown as being resurrected to heaven and joining Jesus Christ in his rule, becoming “priests of God and of the Christ” and ruling “as kings” with Christ during his Thousand Year Reign.—Re 20:4, 6.(it 2 Priest p. 687)
The key to the identification of the “great crowd” is found within the description of them in Revelation chapter 7 and in obviously parallel passages. Revelation 7:15-17 speaks of God as ‘spreading his tent over them,’ of their being guided to “fountains of waters of life,” and of God’s wiping “every tear from their eyes.” At Revelation 21:2-4 we find parallel expressions:‘God’s tent being with mankind,’ his ‘wiping every tear from their eyes,’ and ‘death being no more.’ The vision there presented is concerning persons not in heaven, from where the ‘New Jerusalem comes down,’ but on earth, among mankind.

In other words you have not the first clue as to what the 144,000 means.

Then why all the double talk and verses out of context. Just admit your ignorance.

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#34285 May 10, 2013
Armageddon is a figurative war, not a literal war.

“I am Sisyphus”

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#34286 May 10, 2013
Student wrote:
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God’s law on blood certainly is not new or unclear. Through our common forefather Noah, Jehovah commanded all mankind:“Flesh with its soul—its blood—you must not eat.”(Genesis 9:4) The sacredness of blood, representing life from God, was stressed in the Mosaic Law. Blood could be used on the altar, but otherwise it was to be ‘poured out on the ground as water.’(Leviticus 17:11-14; Deuteronomy 12:23-25)
Did the prohibition against sustaining life with blood continue after the Mosaic Law ended? Absolutely. At what some might call the first Christian council, the apostles and older men (who comprised the governing body) concluded that Christians must ‘abstain from idolatry, from fornication, from what is strangled [having blood left in] and from blood.’ Misuse of blood was as serious a moral wrong as illicit sex relations.
Acts 15:19-21, 28, 29-
19 Hence my decision is not to trouble those from the nations who are turning to God, 20 but to write them to abstain from things polluted by idols and from fornication and from what is strangled and from blood.
28 For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to YOU, except these necessary things, 29 to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication. If YOU carefully keep yourselves from these things, YOU will prosper. Good health to YOU!”

Wow. This is some psychotic, messed up, crap.

Do you know how much The Cult has PAID out to settle wrongful death suits?

The Watchtower will pay off anyone who threatens to sue them. They will do ANYTHING to perpetuate the lies they tell.

You are so gullible. You weak little peons. You will do anything to feel loved. But your cult does not love you. You are expendable. They would rather see you die needing a blood transfusion than to admit they don't know the bible from the hole they wipe.

“I am Sisyphus”

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#34287 May 10, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
Armageddon is a figurative war, not a literal war.

The whole book is metaphor. You really have to stretch to get anything literal out of it.
Student

Oregon City, OR

#34289 May 10, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Jesus did not die on a "torture stake". He was crucified on a cross.
Try reading a REAL bible some time.
This is another perfect example of the LIES the cult spreads. Never mind the Romans did not use impalation but DID practice crucifixion is a historical fact.
Never mind that this is a deliberate distortion of the bible.
Never mind that Satan is the father of lies and therefore, logically, is the father of the Watchtower cult.
The book The Non-Christian Cross, by John Denham Parsons, states:“There is not a single sentence in any of the numerous writings forming the New Testament, which, in the original Greek, bears even indirect evidence to the effect that the stauros used in the case of Jesus was other than an ordinary stauros; much less to the effect that it consisted, not of one piece of timber, but of two pieces nailed together in the form of a cross. . . . it is not a little misleading upon the part of our teachers to translate the word stauros as ‘cross’ when rendering the Greek documents of the Church into our native tongue, and to support that action by putting ‘cross’ in our lexicons as the meaning of stauros without carefully explaining that that was at any rate not the primary meaning of the word in the days of the Apostles, did not become its primary signification till long afterwards, and became so then, if at all, only because, despite the absence of corroborative evidence, it was for some reason or other assumed that the particular stauros upon which Jesus was executed had that particular shape.”—London, 1896, pp. 23, 24.

“I am Sisyphus”

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#34291 May 10, 2013
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The book The Non-Christian Cross, by John Denham Parsons, states:“There is not a single sentence in any of the numerous writings forming the New Testament, which, in the original Greek, bears even indirect evidence to the effect that the stauros used in the case of Jesus was other than an ordinary stauros; much less to the effect that it consisted, not of one piece of timber, but of two pieces nailed together in the form of a cross. . . . it is not a little misleading upon the part of our teachers to translate the word stauros as ‘cross’ when rendering the Greek documents of the Church into our native tongue, and to support that action by putting ‘cross’ in our lexicons as the meaning of stauros without carefully explaining that that was at any rate not the primary meaning of the word in the days of the Apostles, did not become its primary signification till long afterwards, and became so then, if at all, only because, despite the absence of corroborative evidence, it was for some reason or other assumed that the particular stauros upon which Jesus was executed had that particular shape.”—London, 1896, pp. 23, 24.

1896.......

Moron.

You are to stupid to check that assertion.

Until you are capable of embracing, rather than avoiding reality you are not going to make any progress.

Strap on a pair and do some research.

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#34292 May 10, 2013
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God’s law on blood certainly is not new or unclear.
The bible speaks of not drinking it, and like any food you prepare to drain it so you will prevent consuming bacteria in the food. No where does it say it can't be consumed intravenously, as this is void of being absorbed by the intestinal tract directly. I would like to know your bible source, as I feel confidnt the source of your info is from a special edition stricty for Jehovah's Witnesses, so you can continue to believe in your religion, instead of the truth of the bible. My prayer is that something will be said to change your downward spiral, and catch you with the truth before it's to late.
New Living Translation (NLT)


11 for the life of the body is in its blood. I have given you the blood on the altar to purify you, making you right with the Lord.[a] It is the blood, given in exchange for a life, that makes purification possible. 12 That is why I have said to the people of Israel,‘You must never eat or drink blood—neither you nor the foreigners living among you.’

13 “And if any native Israelite or foreigner living among you goes hunting and kills an animal or bird that is approved for eating, he must drain its blood and cover it with earth. 14 The life of every creature is in its blood. That is why I have said to the people of Israel,‘You must never eat or drink blood, for the life of any creature is in its blood.’ So whoever consumes blood will be cut off from the community.
what it says, The June 15, 2004 issue of the Watchtower detailed the rules regarding the use of blood products. While some items remain “unacceptable,” others are a matter of conscience for each person “to decide.” For example it is “unacceptable” to use whole blood, red cells, white cells, platelets, or plasma. However, it is a matter of choice as to whether one may use “fractions” from red cells, white cells, platelets, or plasma. This, of course, is quite at variance with the earlier pontification that none of “the component parts of the blood” could be used (BMLG, p. 13-14). For an analysis of the “Witnesses’” criteria for classifying blood components, see Dr. Osamu Muramoto’s article, The Watchtower Society redefines the guidelines for the use of blood products.

At the height of their glory, the first-century Pharisees were not as artful at “straining out the gnat” while “swallowing the camel,” as are the modern “Watchtower Witnesses.”

There is no prohibition, or principle, in the Bible that would condemn the transfusion of blood for necessary medical procedures. To contend otherwise is to create a law where God has not; such is both presumptuous and evil.

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#34293 May 10, 2013
Student wrote:
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God’s law on blood certainly is not new or unclear. Through our common forefather Noah, Jehovah commanded all mankind:“Flesh with its soul—its blood—you must not eat.”(Genesis 9:4) The sacredness of blood, representing life from God, was stressed in the Mosaic Law. Blood could be used on the altar, but otherwise it was to be ‘poured out on the ground as water.’(Leviticus 17:11-14; Deuteronomy 12:23-25)
Did the prohibition against sustaining life with blood continue after the Mosaic Law ended? Absolutely. At what some might call the first Christian council, the apostles and older men (who comprised the governing body) concluded that Christians must ‘abstain from idolatry, from fornication, from what is strangled [having blood left in] and from blood.’ Misuse of blood was as serious a moral wrong as illicit sex relations.
Acts 15:19-21, 28, 29-
19 Hence my decision is not to trouble those from the nations who are turning to God, 20 but to write them to abstain from things polluted by idols and from fornication and from what is strangled and from blood.
28 For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to YOU, except these necessary things, 29 to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication. If YOU carefully keep yourselves from these things, YOU will prosper. Good health to YOU!”
This is what you say, and this is what the bible says, You are not being truthful my dear friend, as it doesn't refer to the soul, here's what the bible actually says. 4 But you must never eat animals that still have their lifeblood in them. Genesis 9;4, life blood DOES NOT MEAN SOUL, it refers to the fact that nothing an animal or human cannot exsist without blood, but a human soul continues to live after death, or if all the blood is drain from them. so again your analogy is so flawed as all I can do is continue to put the truth down for you and pray you see the light. Please tell us all the bible in which you used to obtain this verse you referred to,“Flesh with its soul—its blood—you must not eat.”(Genesis 9:4) This is not said in any bible but your bible, which was created specifically for the Jehovah witnesses, this is a sin against God by adding to, which is forbidden.

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#34294 May 10, 2013
The Jehovah witness get their info from one bible, which is the New World Translation, created especially for one purpose and one purpose only, to distort the truth to meet and attempt to say what they believe, not what God has said. The New World Translation of the Bible is Jehovah's Witnesses own translation, no other religious group uses this Bible and Jehovah's Witnesses make very little use of other Bibles.

The translators of The New World Translation were: Nathan Knorr, Albert Schroeder, George Gangas, Fred Franz, M. Henschel

"Fred Franz was the only one with any knowledge of the Bible languages to attempt translation of this kind. He had studied Greek for two years in the University of Cincinnati but was only self-taught in Hebrew." ["Crisis of Conscience"; by Raymond Franz; Commentary Press, Atlanta; 1983 edition; footnote 15; page 50.]

Four out of the five men on the committee had no Hebrew or Greek training at all, and only a high school education. Franz studied Greek for two years at the University of Cincinnati, but dropped out after his sophomore year. When asked in a Scotland courtroom if he could translate Genesis 2:4 into Hebrew, Franz replied that he could not. The truth is that Franz was unable to translate Hebrew or Greek.

What we have is a very inexperienced translating committee that twisted Scripture to make it fit the Society's doctrine.

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#34295 May 10, 2013
A Grossly misleading translation ( new world translation )
Reprinted with permission


John 1:1, which reads "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God," is shockingly mistranslated, "Originally the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god," in a New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures, published under the auspices of Jehovah's Witnesses.

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#34299 May 10, 2013
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Dear Student, I hope you can see clearly that when an animal who has no soul and a human who does, lacks sufficent blood, physical death will occur, but the soul is unaffected by this depletion of blood. Again you see in this world that blood has undoubtedly saved billions of lives, if we stopped using blood, this action would be catastrophic. God in his wisdom made sure we used blood in such a way that it SAVES lives, not takes them, the key word being "SAVED", after all isn't that the entire purpose of blood in all that God speaks of throughout the entire bible.

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#34300 May 10, 2013
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Dear Student, I keep reading about blood substitutes, will they be available soon?

Despite much promising research, a true substitute for blood cells (that is, the red cells and platelets) may not be available for many years. More likely, blood transfusions will continue to become even safer because of improved blood donor screening and testing. In addition, scientists are exploring new technologies that may virtually eliminate infectious diseased from blood transfusion.

New drugs and medical techniques can sometimes significantly reduce or eliminate the need for blood transfusions. For example, most surgeries today require far less blood than just a few years ago. In another example, patients on kidney dialysis who used to need monthly blood transfusions, now take a drug that promotes red cell production in the body and virtually eliminate the need for a blood transfusion. My friend this would be wonderful not to need blood transfusions, but that's not going to happen anytime soon, but the most important thing about blood transfusion is it isn't a sin to use, it doesn't go against what God teaches, on the contrary it very much goes with what God teaches.

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#34301 May 10, 2013
There is no mention of limiting communion to anyone except that they examine themselves and rightly discern that the elements represent Christ's sacrifice, not a mere meal to satisfy hunger.
•"But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29For he who eats and drinks, eats and drinks judgment to himself, if he does not judge the body rightly," (1 Cor. 11:28-29, NASB).

No place in the Bible is communion restricted to only the 144,000, as the Witnesses teach. This is a fabrication of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. The fact that the Jehovah's Witnesses do not take communion is a demonstration that they are not in the body of Christ and do not have a covenant relationship with Christ. The Lord's Supper is meant for the body of believers in the true and living God who have been redeemed by the Lord Jesus Christ. The Lord's Supper is not for those who are outside the camp of Christ. Since the great majority of the Jehovah's Witnesses do not take communion, this is a testimony against them.
Acts 20:7 gives the J.W. cult no little trouble. They cannot find a single passage where any New Testament church ever observed the Lord’s Supper on the date of the Passover, but here is a passage which plainly shows the Supper was observed each and every Sunday.“And upon the first day of the week, preached when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them.” In a frantic effort to nullify the force of this text, members of the J.W. religion have said that Acts 20:7 refers to a common meal rather than the Lord’s Supper. No, Paul ate something to refresh himself at the start of a journey in verse 11, but verse 7 clear1y refers to the regular assemblies of the whole church for worship.

The New Testament repeatedly distinguishes the Lord’s Supper conducted by the church from common meals provided by individuals:

The Lord’s Supper

1. The breaking of the bread is in the context of worship (Acts 2:42).

2. All disciples assembled to eat the Lord’s Supper on the first day of the week (Acts 20:7).

3. When “ye come together in the church,” eat the Lord’s supper rather than a common meal (1 Cor. 11:17&#8209;34).

A Common Meal

1. Eating food from house to house is separate from worship assembles (Acts 2:46b).

2. Paul alone ate food to prepare for a journey – no one else was said to eat (Acts 20:11).

3.“If any man hunger, let him eat at home, that ye come not together unto condemnation”(1 Cor. 11:34).

We should never confuse the duty of the church to provide the Lord’s Supper with the duty of individuals to provide social meals separate from the work of the church.
Student

Oregon City, OR

#34302 May 11, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
The Jehovah witness get their info from one bible, which is the New World Translation, created especially for one purpose and one purpose only, to distort the truth to meet and attempt to say what they believe, not what God has said. The New World Translation of the Bible is Jehovah's Witnesses own translation, no other religious group uses this Bible and Jehovah's Witnesses make very little use of other Bibles.
The translators of The New World Translation were: Nathan Knorr, Albert Schroeder, George Gangas, Fred Franz, M. Henschel
"Fred Franz was the only one with any knowledge of the Bible languages to attempt translation of this kind. He had studied Greek for two years in the University of Cincinnati but was only self-taught in Hebrew." ["Crisis of Conscience"; by Raymond Franz; Commentary Press, Atlanta; 1983 edition; footnote 15; page 50.]
Four out of the five men on the committee had no Hebrew or Greek training at all, and only a high school education. Franz studied Greek for two years at the University of Cincinnati, but dropped out after his sophomore year. When asked in a Scotland courtroom if he could translate Genesis 2:4 into Hebrew, Franz replied that he could not. The truth is that Franz was unable to translate Hebrew or Greek.
What we have is a very inexperienced translating committee that twisted Scripture to make it fit the Society's doctrine.
I see you have Walter Martin book,“Kingdom of the Cults”, is this were you get all your information?

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#34303 May 11, 2013
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I see you have Walter Martin book,“Kingdom of the Cults”, is this were you get all your information?
No, actually this is the first time I've ever used it, not that I need to at all. I have many sources which I have accumulated over the years of intense study on the subject of false doctrines, the most important one being the bible. There's no denying that the Jehovah Witnesses are a false religion, which is easily to see. One of the first is the blatant ignorance of trying to tell people when the end is coming, which the Jehovah Witnesses have done so many times in the past, that would be the first inclination of a false religion. The bible tells us all no man knoweth the hour when the end of time will be, but regardless of what the bible says the Jehovah Witnesses shamefully continue to make the same mistake over and over. The founder of your religion is a man, our founder is God. If they are the only true church and are the only true voice of God's word, then what they say should prove to be true, especially in prophecy. When it comes to predicting the future, the Watchtower organization fails miserably. Following are some of the false predictions made over the years by the Watchtower organization. If you present these to a JW, he will probably say something like, "Those are taken out of context," or "They didn't claim to be the prophet of God," or "The light is getting brighter and we are understanding Bible prophecy better now," etc. Make a copy of these false prophecies, found in the appendix, and give it to them to check. They are right out of the Witnesses' literature.
Remember Deut. 18:22, "If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him." If someone makes a false prophecy, and they have claimed to be a prophet of God, then they are false prophets and are not to be listened to. Do the Witnesses claim to be the prophet of God? Yes, they do.
In 1972 the Jehovah's Witness Watchtower claimed to be the prophet of God.
IDENTIFYING THE "PROPHET" -- "So does Jehovah have a prophet to help them, to warn them of dangers and to declare things to come? These questions can be answered in the affirmative. Who is this prophet?...This "prophet" was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah's Christian Witnesses...Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a 'prophet' of God. It is another thing to prove it," (Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1972, p. 197).(See Deut. 18:21.)
•1897 "Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874," (Studies in the Scriptures, vol. 4, p. 621).
•1899 "...the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty'(Revelation 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced," (The Time Is at Hand, 1908 edition, p. 101).
•1916 "The Bible chronology herein presented shows that the six great 1000 year days beginning with Adam are ended, and that the great 7th Day, the 1000 years of Christ's Reign, began in 1873," (The Time Is at Hand, forward, p. ii).
•1918 "Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old, particularly those named by the Apostle in Hebrews 11, to the condition of human perfection," (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, p. 89).

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#34304 May 11, 2013
Final part,
•1922 "The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures than 1914," (Watchtower, Sept. 1, 1922, p. 262).
•1923 "Our thought is, that 1925 is definitely settled by the Scriptures. As to Noah, the Christian now has much more upon which to base his faith than Noah had upon which to base his faith in a coming deluge," (Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1923, p. 106).
•1925 "The year 1925 is here. With great expectation Christians have looked forward to this year. Many have confidently expected that all members of the body of Christ will be changed to heavenly glory during this year. This may be accomplished. It may not be. In his own due time God will accomplish his purposes concerning his people. Christians should not be so deeply concerned about what may transpire this year," (Watchtower, Jan. 1, 1925, p. 3).
•1925 "It is to be expected that Satan will try to inject into the minds of the consecrated, the thought that 1925 should see an end to the work," (Watchtower, Sept., 1925, p. 262).
•1926 "Some anticipated that the work would end in 1925, but the Lord did not state so. The difficulty was that the friends inflated their imaginations beyond reason; and that when their imaginations burst asunder, they were inclined to throw away everything," (Watchtower, p. 232).
•1931 "There was a measure of disappointment on the part of Jehovah's faithful ones on earth concerning the years 1917, 1918, and 1925, which disappointment lasted for a time...and they also learned to quit fixing dates," (Vindication, p. 338).
•1941 "Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon," (Watchtower, Sept. 15, 1941, p. 288).
•1968 "True, there have been those in times past who predicted an 'end to the world', even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The 'end' did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing?.. Missing from such people were God's truths and evidence that he was using and guiding them," (Awake, Oct. 8, 1968).
•1968 "Why are you looking forward to 1975?" (Watchtower, Aug. 15, 1968, p. 494).

A JW might say that the organization is still learning. If that is so, then how can they trust what they are taught now by the Watchtower? Will what they are being taught now change also?
A true prophet of God won't err in prophesying. Only a false prophet does. The Jehovah's Witness organization, that claims to be a prophet of God, is really a false prophet. Jesus warned us by saying, "For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect -- if that were possible" (Matt. 24:24).

Student

Oregon City, OR

#34305 May 11, 2013
Should Jesus’ death be commemorated weekly or perhaps even daily? Well, Christ instituted the Lord’s Evening Meal and was unjustly put to death on Passover Day. Held only once a year, on Nisan 14, the Passover commemorated Israel’s deliverance from Egyptian bondage.(Exodus 12:6, 14; Leviticus 23:5)

So the death of “Christ our passover” should be memorialized only once each year, not weekly or daily.(1 Corinthians 5:7) In observing the Lord’s Evening Meal, Christians follow the same procedure as Jesus did when he instituted it.

What, then, is meant by Paul’s words:“As often as you eat this loaf and drink this cup, you keep proclaiming the death of the Lord, until he arrives”?(1 Corinthians 11:26) In this text Paul used a word meaning “every time that,” or “whenever.” Thus, he was saying that whenever anointed Christians partook of the emblems, they would proclaim their faith in Jesus’ ransom sacrifice.

Anointed Christians would commemorate Christ’s death “until he arrives.” This observance would continue until Jesus’ arrival to receive his anointed followers into heaven by a resurrection to spirit life during his “presence.”(1 Thessalonians 4:14-17)

This harmonizes with Christ’s words to the 11 loyal apostles:“If I go my way and prepare a place for you, I am coming again and will receive you home to myself, that where I am you also may be.”(John 14:3)

Is it necessary to partake of the Memorial emblems in order to be covered by Jesus’ sacrifice and receive everlasting life on earth?

No.

Nothing in the Bible suggests that after they are resurrected on earth, such God-fearing people as Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Rebekah, Joseph, Moses, and David will ever partake of these emblems. Yet, they and all others desiring endless life on the earth will have to exercise faith in God and Christ and in Jehovah’s provision of Jesus’ ransom sacrifice.(John 3:36; 14:1)

For everlasting life, you too must exercise such faith. Your presence at the annual observance of Christ’s death serves as a reminder of that great sacrifice and should deepen your gratitude for it.

The apostle John emphasized the importance of Jesus’ sacrifice when he said:“I am writing you [fellow anointed ones] these things that you may not commit a sin. And yet, if anyone does commit a sin, we have a helper with the Father, Jesus Christ, a righteous one. And he is a propitiatory sacrifice for our sins, yet not for ours only but also for the whole world’s.”(1 John 2:1, 2)

Anointed ones can say that Jesus’ sacrifice is a propitiatory cover for their sins. But it is also a sacrifice for the sins of the whole world, making everlasting life possible for obedient mankind!(w04 3/15 p. 7)
Student

Oregon City, OR

#34306 May 11, 2013
Nonblood Alternatives

Among the topics considered were blood transfusion, blood testing, and medical alternatives to human blood. Dr. C. V. Prowse, of the Scottish National Blood Transfusion Service, spoke on “Alternatives to Human Blood and Blood Resources.” He mentioned various recombinant (synthetic) growth factors that can increase blood cell levels by stimulating the body’s production of these cells. For example, erythropoietin is produced by the kidneys and stimulates the formation of red blood cells. But now this can be produced in laboratories. Dr. Prowse said that synthetic “erythropoietin is well established as a treatment for various forms of anaemia.”

A similar substance has been developed to stimulate the body’s production of blood platelets. Dr. Prowse said:“The most recent discoveries in this area are the thrombopoietic growth factors. Interleukin 11 is already licensed for its effect in improving platelet count . . . , and it seems likely that thrombopoietin and its homolog, rh-PEG-MGDF, soon will be.”

Dr. Prowse also mentioned synthetic clotting factors (plasma proteins) that have proved valuable to hemophiliacs:“Recombinant equivalents of a number of plasma proteins are licensed, and in some cases are established as the preferred therapy due to concerns over the viral infectivity of plasma-derived products.” Dr. Prowse added that “a number of other coagulation factors are now in development for production.”

N. S. Faithfull, who is affiliated with a pharmaceutical corporation, gave a presentation on perfluorocarbon (PFC) compounds. Certain perfluorocarbons can transport oxygen in the circulatory system. The first generation of these chemicals did not prove satisfactory as “artificial” blood. Has progress been made? Faithfull said:“Over the last few years, further development of PFC technology has progressed and clinical trials have been performed using [two second] generation PFC emulsions.” He reported on trials of one of these involving 256 patients undergoing orthopedic, gynecologic, or urologic surgery—procedures that often result in high blood loss. The results?“The data from both studies indicated that Oxygent was significantly better than blood at reversing these triggers [a trigger indicates a need for a blood transfusion] and that the triggers were reversed for significantly longer than the reversal caused by autologous blood.”

The congress also heard that the size of PFC particles in such emulsions “is very small . . . , about 40 times smaller than the diameter of an RBC [red blood cell]. This small size can enable PFC particles to traverse capillaries through which no RBCs are flowing.” This seems to hold promise of benefit in the case of certain damaged, blood-starved tissue.

A British physician emphasized the need of saving blood in surgical procedures. He urged this because of the shortage of blood and because of the hazards connected with transfusions. To illustrate how much can be done to reduce the use of blood, he told of a surgeon who used blood in only 10 percent of the hip operations that he performed. Other surgeons at the same hospital used blood in 70 percent of hip surgeries.

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That would be fantastic, but in the real world it's not feasable now, and these procedures are so far in the future that blood transfusions will simply become safer before these become a reality, and then the cost will be another factor. But the main issue isn't the blood, it's the JW false interpretation of the bible on the issue of blood, which your bible says soul, and the use of blood has nothing to do with one's soul in the verses you are citing from your bible , exclusively for you. Again when an animal or a human dies of insufficent blood they cease to live. The human soul which has nothing to do with the blood continues to live on as our soul is eternal. The lifeblood refers to the blood which keeps the physical body of an animal and human alive, and that's all. No bible, except the one that was created and distorted for your sole purpose to try and make the scriptures to fit the JW agenda, which it fails miserably.

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