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Student

Caborca, Mexico

#33541 Feb 8, 2013
Beliefs and Attitudes of Christendom

Images, icons, and crosses are used in worship:“The images ... of Christ, of the Virgin Mother of God, and of the other saints, are to be ... kept in churches and due reverence and honor be paid to them:(Declaration of the Council of Trent [1545-63])

What the Bible really Says

Christians must flee from every sort of idolatry, including so-called relative worship.

Exodus 20:4, 5-“You must not make for yourself a carved image or a form like anything that is in the heavens above or that is on the earth underneath or that is in the waters under the earth. You must not bow down to them nor be induced to serve them, because I Jehovah your God am a God exacting exclusive devotion, bringing punishment for the error of fathers upon sons, upon the third generation and upon the fourth generation, in the case of those who hate me,”

1 Corinthians 10:14-Therefore, my beloved ones, flee from idolatry.

1 John 5:21-Little children, guard yourselves from idols.

They worship God not by sight but with spirit and truth.

John 4:23, 24-Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshipers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for suchlike ones to worship him. God is a Spirit, and those worshiping him must worship with spirit and truth.

2 Corinthians 5:7-for we are walking by faith, not by sight.

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Student

Caborca, Mexico

#33542 Feb 8, 2013
Beliefs and Attitudes of Christendom

Church members are taught that God’s purpose will be accomplished through politics.

The late Cardinal Spellman stated:“There is only one road to peace ... the highroad of democracy.” News items report religion’s involvement in the world’s politics (even in insurrections) and her support of the UN as “the last hope of concord and peace.”

What the Bible really Says

Jesus preached God’s Kingdom, not some political system, as the hope for mankind.

Matthew 4:23-Then he went around throughout the whole of Galilee, teaching in their synagogues and preaching the good news of the kingdom and curing every sort of disease and every sort of infirmity among the people.

Matthew 6:9, 10-“YOU must pray, then, this way:“’Our Father in the heavens. Let your name be sanctified. Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place as in heaven, also upon the earth.”

He refused to get involved in politics.

John 6:14, 15-Hence when the men saw the signs he performed, they began to say:“This is for a certainly the prophet that was to come into the world. Therefore Jesus, knowing they were about to come and seize him to make him king, withdrew again into the mountains all alone.”

His Kingdom was no part of this world; hence, his followers were to be no part of the world.

John 18:36-Jesus answered:“My kingdom is no part of this world. If my kingdom were part of this world, my attendants would have fought that I should not be delivered up to the Jews. But, as it is, my kingdom is not from this source.”

John 17:16-They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world.

James warned against friendship with the world.

James 4:4-Adulteresses, do YOU not know that the friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever, therefore, wants to be a friend of the world is constituting himself an enemy of God.

Yes, Christendom’s Waters Today are certainly Wormwood --

Jeremiah 23:15-Therefore this is what Jehovah of armies has said against the prophets:“Here I am making them eat wormwood, and I will give them poisoned water to drink. For from the prophets of Jerusalem apostasy has gone forth to all the land.

Revelation 8:11-And the name of the star is called Wormwood. And a third of the waters turned into wormwood, and many of the men died from the waters, because these had been made bitter.
Student

Caborca, Mexico

#33543 Feb 8, 2013
J F Rutherford wrote:
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I've read and understand the scriptures and that's why I know that you are a liar.
There's not any scriptures which support that jehovah's witness false doctrine of only 144,000 in Heaven.
But I still invite you to show one, rather that the cult garbage you constantly post.
You do know that God will judge your lies, don't you?
You are already recorded in Heaven as a liar.
Your only hope is to pray to Jesus for forgiveness.
But YOU have approached a Mount Zion and a city of [the] living God, heavenly Jerusalem, and myriads of angels, 23 in general assembly, and the congregation of the firstborn who have been enrolled in the heavens, and God the Judge of all, and the spiritual lives of righteous ones who have been made perfect,
(Heb 12:23)

These called-out ones are “bought from among mankind” to carry out a special work here on earth and then to be with Christ in heaven as his bride.

As there were requirements for membership in the Hebrew congregation of God, so there are requisites for membership in the Christian “congregation of God.” Those making it up are spiritual virgins who keep following the Lamb, Jesus Christ, no matter where he goes,“and no falsehood was found in their mouths; they are without blemish.”—Re 14:1-5.

Since: Apr 10

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#33544 Feb 8, 2013
Still waiting for a scripture which supports the false teaching of jehovah's witnesses who claim that only 144,000 will go to Heaven.

You can spam and post all the cult garbage, but it only takes one sentence to post the scripture...

UNLESS, OF COURSE, WE ALL KNOW, NO SUCH SCRIPTURE EXISTS.

WHY DON'T YOU JUST ADMIT, IT'S A FALSE DOCTRINE PRODUCED BY SATAN'S CULT, THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES?

OF COURSE, THERE ARE OTHER FALSE DOCTRINES FROM THE EVIL AND WICKED JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, WHICH ARE NOT SUPPORTED BY SCRIPTURE!

“Mystical Atheism for everyone!”

Since: Nov 08

El Cerrito California

#33545 Feb 8, 2013
There are a lot of reasons why the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses are not true disciples of Jesus but here are a few good reasons for starters:

The number one reason the Jehovah's Witnesses can not be considered true disciples of Jesus is because the OMNIPRESENT GOD of Israel that is at the foundation of his teachings is rejected in preference to a primitive concept of a separate god of conditional love that was derived by Judge Rutherford from the pages of a channeled occult novel called Angels and women:

http://www.seanet.com/~raines/jehovah.html

By rejecting the OMNIPRESENT GOD at the heart of the teachings of the Jewish Jesus it makes his teachings meaningless. This is why the organization had to come out with it's own bible, adjusted to it's limited god of conditional love.(Conditional love is not LOVE at all but a tool of manipulation using relative degrees of hate.)

This easily provable fact of their rejection of the GOD of the Jewish Jesus using their own website should be reason enough as we can clearly see here in 1 John 4:8 (King James Version)

"8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love."

And this major error that is the foundation of the entire religion is in itself another reason that should be sufficient to expose the absurdity of the cult:

http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apologeti...

The Name of GOD is important to know but the word "jehovah" isn't it.

and one last very important reason I will mention is the antisemitic replacement theology still practiced by this group while other religions have let go of it after recognizing the horrible example of the Holocaust which could not have occurred without the antisemitic teachings of most of Christianity:

http://www.yadlachimusa.org.il/...

I am sure that with the tool of the internet at our disposal we will find more and more information as to the nature of false religions such as the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses and the damage they have done to families.

We all need to get informed as to the evil nature of the Roman hoax of Christianity and it's many derivatives that deny the Jewish GOD and the Jewish Jesus and get involved in restoring true Christianity based on the OMNIPRESENT GOD of Israel to humanity that is even now being found to be in accord with the latest scientific findings concerning the nature of the Cosmos!

GOD is LOVE. WE are ALL ONE WITH GOD, even the unloving!
Student

Cananea, Mexico

#33546 Feb 8, 2013
Grandpasmurf952 wrote:
There are a lot of reasons why the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses are not true disciples of Jesus but here are a few good reasons for starters:
The number one reason the Jehovah's Witnesses can not be considered true disciples of Jesus is because the OMNIPRESENT GOD of Israel that is at the foundation of his teachings is rejected in preference to a primitive concept of a separate god of conditional love that was derived by Judge Rutherford from the pages of a channeled occult novel called Angels and women:
http://www.seanet.com/~raines/jehovah.html
By rejecting the OMNIPRESENT GOD at the heart of the teachings of the Jewish Jesus it makes his teachings meaningless. This is why the organization had to come out with it's own bible, adjusted to it's limited god of conditional love.(Conditional love is not LOVE at all but a tool of manipulation using relative degrees of hate.)
This easily provable fact of their rejection of the GOD of the Jewish Jesus using their own website should be reason enough as we can clearly see here in 1 John 4:8 (King James Version)
"8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love."
And this major error that is the foundation of the entire religion is in itself another reason that should be sufficient to expose the absurdity of the cult:
http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apologeti...
The Name of GOD is important to know but the word "jehovah" isn't it.
and one last very important reason I will mention is the antisemitic replacement theology still practiced by this group while other religions have let go of it after recognizing the horrible example of the Holocaust which could not have occurred without the antisemitic teachings of most of Christianity:
http://www.yadlachimusa.org.il/...
I am sure that with the tool of the internet at our disposal we will find more and more information as to the nature of false religions such as the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses and the damage they have done to families.
We all need to get informed as to the evil nature of the Roman hoax of Christianity and it's many derivatives that deny the Jewish GOD and the Jewish Jesus and get involved in restoring true Christianity based on the OMNIPRESENT GOD of Israel to humanity that is even now being found to be in accord with the latest scientific findings concerning the nature of the Cosmos!
GOD is LOVE. WE are ALL ONE WITH GOD, even the unloving!
Actually, by teaching that God is omnipresent Christendom has confused matters and made it more difficult for God to be real to his worshipers. How could God be present everywhere at the same time? God is a spirit Person, which means that he does not have a material body, but a spiritual one. A spirit has a body? Yes, for we read,“If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual one.”(1 Cor. 15:44; John 4:24)
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Student

Cananea, Mexico

#33547 Feb 8, 2013
God being an individual, a Person with a spirit body, has a place where he resides, and so he could not be at any other place at the same time.

Thus we read at 1 Kings 8:43 that the heavens are God’s “established place of dwelling.”

Also, we are told at Hebrews 9:24 that “Christ entered ... into heaven itself, now to appear before the person of God for us.”

Moreover, the disciple Stephen and the apostle John had visions of heaven in which they saw both God and Jesus Christ. So Jehovah God must be just as much a person, an individual, as Jesus Christ is.(Acts 7:56; Rev. 5:1, 9)

Those Christians who have a hope of eventually living in heaven are assured that they will see God and also be like him, showing that Jehovah God truly is a person and has a body as well as a certain location.(1 John 3:2)

It could well be that some have been confused due to the fact that God is allseeing; also his power can be felt everywhere.(2 Chron. 16:9)

We might illustrate these facts by likening God to an electric power plant. It has a certain location on a certain street in a city. But its electricity is distributed over all the city, providing light and power. And so with Jehovah God. He has a location in the highest heavens, but his active force, his holy spirit, furnishes enlightenment, and its force can be felt everywhere, over all the universe.

While the Bible repeatedly warns that God’s worshipers are not to presume to make any likeness of him and not to bow down and worship such a likeness, it does use anthropomorphisms; that is, it ascribes to God human characteristics.

Thus the Bible speaks of God’s face, his eyes and ears, his nostrils and mouth, his arms and feet.(Deut. 4:15-20; Ps. 27:8; 1 Pet. 3:12; Ps. 18:15; Isa. 1:20; Deut. 33:27; Isa. 41:2)

Of course, such descriptive language does not mean that his spirit body has the same kind of members that human bodies have. But by means of these expressions we are helped, inasmuch as Jehovah God thus becomes more real to us.

Yes, God’s Word shows that God is a distinct personality, that he has feelings, that he can be pleased or displeased, that he can laugh, that he can be angry, that he is merciful and tender in affection.

He is personally interested in each member of humankind. In fact, he loved the world of mankind so much that he sent his only-begotten Son to earth to die as a sacrifice so that whoever exercises faith in him can gain everlasting life.(Ps. 2:4, 12; John 3:16; Heb. 10:38; Jas. 5:11; 1 Pet. 5:7)
Student

Cananea, Mexico

#33548 Feb 8, 2013
FARKEL wrote:
Still waiting for a scripture which supports the false teaching of jehovah's witnesses who claim that only 144,000 will go to Heaven.
You can spam and post all the cult garbage, but it only takes one sentence to post the scripture...
UNLESS, OF COURSE, WE ALL KNOW, NO SUCH SCRIPTURE EXISTS.
WHY DON'T YOU JUST ADMIT, IT'S A FALSE DOCTRINE PRODUCED BY SATAN'S CULT, THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES?
OF COURSE, THERE ARE OTHER FALSE DOCTRINES FROM THE EVIL AND WICKED JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, WHICH ARE NOT SUPPORTED BY SCRIPTURE!
Revelation 14:3- And they are singing as if a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders;

AND NO ONE WAS ABLE TO MASTER THAT SONG BUT THE HUNDRED AND FORTY-FOUR THOUSAND, who have been bought from the earth.

So the 144,000 are persons who die on earth as humans and are resurrected to heavenly life as spirit creatures, as Jesus was.(Romans 6:5)

When compared with the thousands of millions of persons who live on earth, they are, indeed, a “little flock.”

the “little flock” who go to heaven are not the only ones who receive salvation. As we have seen, they will have happy earthly subjects. Jesus referred to these as his “other sheep,” of whom “a great crowd” are even now serving God faithfully.—(John 10:16; Revelation 7:9, 15)

8- Keep YOUR senses, be watchful. YOUR adversary, the Devil, walks about like a roaring lion, seeking to devour [someone].

9- But take YOUR stand against him, solid in the faith, knowing that the same things in the way of sufferings are being accomplished in the entire association of YOUR brothers in the world.

10- But, after YOU have suffered a little while, the God of all undeserved kindness, who called YOU to his everlasting glory in union with Christ, will himself finish YOUR training, he will make YOU firm, he will make YOU strong.

11- To him be the might forever. Amen.
1 Peter 5:8-11

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#33549 Feb 9, 2013
AS ALWAYS, NOTHING IN SCRIPTURE STATES THAT HEAVEN IS LIMITED TO 144,000.

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES SIMPLY TEACH LIES.

YOU SEE, THEY ARE TAUGHT LIES, AND IN TURN, JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES TEACH LIES.

There's only two requirements to become a jehovah's witness:

1. You must be really, really ignorant.

2. You must be really, really gullible.

“Mystical Atheism for everyone!”

Since: Nov 08

El Cerrito California

#33550 Feb 9, 2013
Student wrote:
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Actually, by teaching that God is omnipresent Christendom has confused matters ,...[cut],,,...
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It isn't Christendom that teaches that GOD is OMNIPRESENT although some churches might have started to teach of the OMNIPRESENT GOD that are closer to historical Christianity than those still immersed in the Roman hoax of Christianity.

Most of those churches who have built their foundation on the Roman hoax of Christianity reject the OMNIPRESENT GOD of Israel in preference to a pagan triune god based on pagan myths.

The historical Jesus was Jewish, and his GOD according to the Judaism he grew up with is OMNIPRESENT. If you reject the Jewish OMNIPRESENT GOD you reject the Jewish Jesus and you are unable to grasp his message which is based on the reality of the OMNIPRESENT GOD.

Here is the Jewish understanding of the GOD that Jesus grew up with:

http://www.jewfaq.org/g-d.htm

According to Judaism, the existence of the OMNIPRESENT GOD is self evident and can be confirmed to be so as stated in Psalm 46:10 (New International Version)

"10 He says, "Be still, and know that I am God;
I will be exalted among the nations,
I will be exalted in the earth."

Be still. That's all. Still the constant chatter of the mind and simply observe what is with all of your senses. This is true meditation and is not to be confused with the new age occult trances and guided visualizations that many people confuse with meditation

What you will experience will be impossible to put into words but it will allow you to understand how something as amazing as an OMNIPRESENT GOD can be real and will help you to get to KNOW The GOD that the historical Jesus told us to LOVE with our whole mind, our whole heart, and our whole soul.

You can't LOVE whom you do not know. This is the very real danger in the teachings of the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses and their imaginary god that Judge Rutherford created and claimed could only be approached indirectly through the faithful and discreet slave.

You can't even begin to LOVE an imaginary god! This holds true for the god of the Jehovah's Witnesses just as much as it does for the false triune god of what you call Christendom.

You can go with the Greek scriptures written several generations after the death of the historical Jesus and the triune god created to appeal to the Roman citizens, or you can stay with the god of Judge Rutherford.

But if you wish to be a true Christian, you will have to accept the GOD at the heart of the teachings of the historical Jesus, The God he grew up worshiping as a Jew.

I know that most people have trouble accepting the reality of the OMNIPRESENT GOD. It took many generations for the nation of Israel to do so.

Perhaps it will help you if you familiarize yourself with the latest scientific research into the nature of the Cosmos that is slowly confirming the reality of the OMNIPRESENT GOD.

Here is one site that attempts to explain in layman's terms the implications of Bell's theorem on entangled particles for humanity in our relationship to the OMNIPRESENT GOD:

http://www.apocatastasis.net/God/PRIMARYFIELD...

And it isn't just Bell's theorem. There is also the work being done at CERN in attempting to detect the holographic matrix which is the foundation of all that exists that has been shown mathematically to be sound according to quantum physicist David Bohm.

It's interesting in that if you sum up what science has confirmed so far concerning the nature of the universe it is in keeping with the simple truth shared by the historical Jesus and other mystics throughout the earth.

GOD is LOVE. WE are ALL ONE WITH GOD, even the unloving!
Student

Nogales, Mexico

#33551 Feb 9, 2013
FARKEL wrote:
AS ALWAYS, NOTHING IN SCRIPTURE STATES THAT HEAVEN IS LIMITED TO 144,000.
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES SIMPLY TEACH LIES.
YOU SEE, THEY ARE TAUGHT LIES, AND IN TURN, JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES TEACH LIES.
There's only two requirements to become a jehovah's witness:
1. You must be really, really ignorant.
2. You must be really, really gullible.
So, Revelation 14:3 means nothing to you?

Why is it, though, that only the 144,000 are able to learn the song mentioned at Revelation 14:3?

Because it has to do with their experiences as chosen heirs of God’s Kingdom. They alone are adopted as sons of God and anointed with holy spirit.

They alone are bought from the earth to become part of that heavenly Kingdom, and they alone “will be priests . . . and will rule as kings” with Jesus Christ for a thousand years to bring mankind to perfection.

They alone are seen to be “singing as if a new song” in the very presence of Jehovah. These unique experiences and prospects give them a singular appreciation of the Kingdom and enable them to sing about it in a way that no one else can.

(Revelation 20:6-Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and will rule as kings with him for the thousand years.

Colossians 1:13-He delivered us from the authority of the darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of the Son of his love,

1 Thessalonians 2:11, 12-
11- In harmony with that YOU well know how, as a father does his children, we kept exhorting each one of YOU, and consoling and bearing witness to YOU, 12- to the end that YOU should go on walking worthily of God who is calling YOU to his kingdom and glory.)
Student

Cananea, Mexico

#33552 Feb 11, 2013
Jesus taught his followers to be evangelizers, or preachers of the good news. At Pentecost 33 C.E., about 120 of these were anointed with holy spirit and became spiritual sons of God.(Acts 2:1-4, 14-42; Romans 8:14-16)

They too were commissioned to tell the good news to the meek and brokenhearted. Those 120 were the first of 144,000 to be anointed in this way. The final ones of this group are still active on earth today.

For about 2,000 years, anointed followers of Jesus have been witnessing “about repentance toward God and faith in our Lord Jesus.”(Acts 20:21)

Isaiah’s inspired message brought relief to repentant Jews in Babylon. In the days of Jesus and his disciples, it brought relief to Jews who were brokenhearted because of the wickedness in Israel and were languishing in captivity to the false religious traditions of first-century Judaism.(Matthew 15:3-6)

Today millions ensnared by Christendom’s pagan customs and God-dishonoring traditions are “sighing and groaning” because of the detestable things committed in that religious system.(Ezekiel 9:4)

Those who respond to the good news are liberated from that pitiable state.(Matthew 9:35-38) Their eyes of understanding are opened wide when they learn to worship Jehovah “with spirit and truth.”(John 4:24)

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#33553 Feb 14, 2013
Student wrote:
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So, Revelation 14:3 means nothing to you?
Revelation 14:3 does not state that only 144,000 will be in Heaven.

As usual, you cannot give scripture to support the cult's false doctrines.

“JWs PREACH LIES!”

Since: Dec 12

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#33554 Feb 14, 2013
The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society made these claims & predictions...

They claim to be a Prophet.

Wt, 1/15/1959, pg 40, 41Whom has God actually used as his prophet?...Jehovah’s Witnesses are deeply grateful today that the plain facts show that God has been pleased to use them.
Wt, 4/1/1972, pg 197Who is this prophet?..Today they are known as Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Wt, 10/1/1982, pg 27...“prophet” class yet on earth. The “war of the great day of God the Almighty” at Har-Magedon could not start before this composite “prophet” ends his work.
Aw, 6/8/1986, pg 9,...all of whom are prophets, or witnesses for God. In fact, they are known throughout the world as Jehovah’s Witnesses.

They claim to speak in Jehovah’s name.

The Nations shall know 1971, pg 58-62,....as a mouthpiece and active agent...... commission to speak as a prophet in the name of Jehovah...
Wt,3/15/1972, pg 189...commission to speak as a “prophet” in His name....
Wt,9/1/1979, pg 29,...those of the Jeremiah class have been sent by Jehovah to speak in his name......back up their message by quoting the words,“This is what Jehovah has said.”

C. They claim to be the official mouthpiece and channel of Jehovah.

Zion’s Wt, 9/15/1895, pg 1867, reprint,.....as God’s mouthpiece in.....
Zion’s Wt, 7/15/1906, pg 3821, reprint.....the truths I present, as God’s mouthpiece.....
Wt, 7/1/1943, pg 203He merely uses his "servant" class to publish the interpretation after the Supreme Court by Christ Jesus reveals it.
Wt, 7/1/1943, pg 205Jehovah speaks to us through his Son....He has appointed his "faithful and wise servant", who is his visible mouthpiece...These directions from the Lord come to us as individuals...
Informant(KM), 1/1956, pg 1,...And how does he speak? Through his appointed channel of communication- his collective congregation of anointed ones...the Watchtower...to dispense Jehovah's communications.
Wt, 6/15/1957, pg 370identify Jehovah’s channel of communication for our day......respond to the directions of the “slave” as we would to the voice of God, because it is his provision.
Wt, 1/15/1959, pg 40, 41...Jehovah thrust out his hand of power and touched their lips and put his word in their mouths.
Wt, 7/15/1960, pg 439,...collectively served as the channel of communication from heaven to earth.....
Wt, 9/1/1991, pg 19,...faithful and discreet slave has also been called God’s channel of communication,...
Wt, 2/1/1957, pg 79, 80, God interprets and teaches, through Christ the Chief Servant, who in turn uses the discreet slave as the visible channel, the viable theocratic organization...

They claim to have a chosen and secret organization with special knowledge and angelic transmission.

Vindication 1, 1931, pg 76 God’s organization is his chosen nation.
Preparation, 1933 ,pg 36, 37, 64 ...transmission of information to God’s anointed people...the angels transmit this information, we know that they do it; the scriptures and the facts show that it is done...convey the thoughts to their minds...To all on the outside of the organization of Jehovah his is a secret organization.
Holy Spirit 1976, pg 175, 176He put his word in the mouth of his chosen people ....He has put his word, his message of the hour, into the mouth of the spiritual remnant.
Wt, 10/15/1980, pg 17God gives his humble servants special knowledge that others do not have... having advance knowledge from Jehovah, his servants are equipped .....

“JWs PREACH LIES!”

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#33555 Feb 14, 2013
They claim Jehovah instructed or used them on certain events.

Creation 1927, pg 121Because it was the Lord’s due time to restore these truths he used Charles T. Russell to write and publish books known as Studies in the Scriptures by which the great fundamental truths of the divine plan are clarified.

F. They claim they are the beloved wife of Jehovah and are our Mother.

Wt, 2/1/1952, pg 79, 80,...forsake the enlightening guidance of the organization that mothered us?“Forsake not the law of thy mother.”(Prov.6:20-23)....
Wt, 5/1/1957, pg 283, 284, 285...show respect for Jehovah’s organization, for she is our mother and the beloved wife of our heavenly Father, Jehovah God.
Wt, 7/1/1976, pg 400,....taught through his wifelike organization, their “mother”.....

“JWs PREACH LIES!”

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#33556 Feb 14, 2013
G. They predicted the following dates as the battle of Armageddon.

Zion’s Wt, 1/15/1892, pg 1355, reprint...“battle” is definitely marked in Scripture as October, 1914.
The Time is at Hand, 1908, pg 101...the “battle of the great day of God Almighty”(Rev.16:14) which will end in A.D. 1914, with the complete overthrow of earth’s present rulership, is already commenced.
The Finished Mystery, 1917, pg 398, 399, 485...the people who are the strength of Christendom shall be cut off in the brief but terribly eventful period beginning in 1918 A.D. A third part are “burned with fire in the mist of the city.”.....After 1918 the people supporting churchianity will cease to be its, supporters, be destroyed as adherents,...Also in the year 1918, when God destroys the churches wholesale and the church members by the millions....
Millions now Living Will Never Die, 1920, pg. 89, 90Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old...."
Vindication 1, 1931, pg 146, 338, 339...years 1914,1918 and 1925 ..... they also learned to quit fixing dates for the future and predicting what would come to pass on certain dates....
Informant, May 1940The year 1940 is certain to be the most important year yet because Armageddon is very near.
Wt, 9/15/1941, pg 288...in the remaining months before Armageddon.
Wt, 5/1/1968, pg 273Chart of dates 1975 end of 6th 1000-year day...2975 end of 7th 1000-year day....
Aw, 1/22/1969, pg 16Other Bible prophecies clearly foretell God’s purpose to bring this wicked system to an end in a few years.
Aw, 5/22/1969, pg 15If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things......all evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years.....as a young person you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in high school and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way toward its finish, if not actually gone!
Wt, 10/15/1969, pg 622, 623...seventh millennium from man’s creation by Jehovah God would begin in less than ten years.
The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah, 1971, pg 216Shortly, within our twentieth century, the "battle in the day if Jehovah" will begin against modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom.
Wt, 1/1/1989, pg 12 The apostle Paul was spearheading the Christian missionary activity. He was also laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century.(This quote was later changed in the WT bound volume to: He was also laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our day.)
In 2010 the generation of 1914 that would not pass away has changed to overlapping generations. See Item I K

H. They blamed other religions for setting dates and called them false prophets.

Light 1930, pg 47,They have been prophesying particularly since 1918, and everyone knows that their prophecies to date have not come to pass; and that alone is strong evidence that they are false prophets.
Wt, 10/15/1958, pg 613,“Sometime between April 15 and 23, 1957, Armageddon will sweep the World!...” So prophesied a certain California pastor Mihran Ask, in January 1957.....Such false prophets tend to......
Aw, 10/8/1968, pg23...those in times past who predicted an “end of the world”, even announcing a specific date...they were guilty of false prophesying.

continued...

“JWs PREACH LIES!”

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#33557 Feb 14, 2013
Paradise Restored 1972, pg 353,354, Jehovah, the God of the true prophets, will put all false prophets to shame either by not fulfilling the false prediction of such self-assuming prophets or by having his own prophecies fulfilled in a way opposite to that predicted by the false prophets. False prophets will try to hide who they really are.
Wt, 6/15/1974, pg 381Similarly the “false prophet” is not a person, but is a system or an organization. A “prophet” claims to have inspired information for the direction of others.
Aw, 12/8/1981, pg 14, Since the Bible speaks about only “one faith,” All of today’s religious groups outside the one true faith must, according to this standard, be counterfeits, composite,“false prophets.

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They predicted other events.

The Truth Shall Make You Free, 1943 ,pg 285,....Man on earth can no more get rid of these demonic “heavens” than man can by airplane or rockets or other means get up above the air envelope...
Wt,7/15/1960, pg 444In 1942 the “faithful and discreet slave” guided by Jehovah’s unerring spirit made known that the democracies would win World War II ....“faithful and discreet slave” has been tipped off ahead of time.....

J. They say they are not a False Prophet.

Aw, 3/22/1993, pg 3, 4, They do not claim that their predictions are direct revelations from Jehovah and that in this sense they are prophesying in Jehovah’s name.......when their words do not come true, they should not be viewed as false prophets....

K.The generation of 1914 that would not pass away has changed to overlapping generations.(Another failed prediction)

All the literature before 1995spoke of the generation that was 10-15 years old or born during 1914 would not pass away before Armageddon.
Wt, 11/1/1995, pg 14,... Jesus was not departing from his established use of the term “this generation” which he consistently applied to the contemporary masses.....
Wt, 11/1/1995, pg 17Rather than provide a rule for measuring time, the term “generation” as used by Jesus refers to a contemporary people of a certain historical period.....
Wt, 11/1/1995, pg 19, Therefore, in the fulfillment of Jesus’ prophecy today,“this generation” apparently refers to the peoples of the earth who see the sign of Christ’s presence but fail to mend their ways.
Wt, 4/15/2010 pg 10, He evidently meant that the lives of the anointed who were on hand when the sign began to become evident in 1914 would overlap with the lives of other anointed ones who would see the start of the great tribulation.

III Charles Taze Russell dealt in pyramidology , astrology , sungod emblems and Masonic imagery.

A. Russell measured pyramid tunnels to verify his dates 1874, 1878, 1881, 1914 , 1915 and 1918, Rutherford continued this pyramidology until 1928 then said it was under the direction of Satan the Devil.

Jehovah’s Witnesses Proclaimers of God’s Kingdom 1993, pg 162, Has picture of a chart of the pyramids.See actual pull out chart from " Studies in the Scriptures, The Devine Plan Of The Ages Volume 1, 1910
Thy Kingdom Come 3, 1897,(Studies in Scriptures), pg 342, Then measuring down the “Entrance Passage”....3416 inches symbolizing 3416 years ....This calculation shows A.D. 1874 as marking the beginning of trouble.....the Pyramid witnesses that the close of 1874 was the chronological beginning of the times if trouble....
Thy Kingdom Come 3,1916,(Studies in Scriptures), pg 342, Then measuring down the “Entrance Passage”....3457 inches symbolizing 3457 years ....This calculation shows A.D. 1915 as marking the beginning of trouble....the Pyramid witnesses that the close of 1914 was the chronological beginning of the times if trouble....
Zion’s Wt, 5/1881, pg 225, reprint,.....“grand gallery” measures 1874 inches long at the top.....Now notice how aptly these three distinct dates (1874,1878,1881,) are marked by the pyramid, in ending the grand gallery.....
Zion’s Wt, 9/1881, pg 272, reprint, Diagram of measurements of pyramids.
The Divine Plan of the Ages, 1910,(Studies in Scriptures), pg front of book,Diagram of measurements of pyramids.
Wt, 10/1/1917, pg 6149,...refers to the Great Pyramid, the measurements of which confirm the Bible teaching that 1878 marked the beginning of the harvest of the....
Wt, 6/15/1922, pg 187,....passages of the Great Pyramid of Gizeh.... and at the same time proves the correctness of the chronology.
Wt, 5/15/1925, pg 148,....Pyramid of Egypt, standing as a silent and inanimate witness of the Lord, is a messenger....

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Russell used Masonic imagery from the Knights Templar logo of the Masons as an emblem on the cover of the Watchtower.

Jehovah’s Witnesses Proclaimers of God’s Kingdom 1993, pg 88, Has a picture of emblem on Watchtower in upper left hand corner, it’s a cross & crown and a armored knight with two swords.See article Emblems used by the Watchtower Society

C. Russell used the symbol of the sungod Ra on the covers of his books.

Jehovah’s Witnesses Proclaimers of God’s Kingdom, 1993, pg 88, Has a picture the books “The Finished Mystery” and “ Pastor Russell’s Sermons” with the symbol on it.(See scanned copy of "The Divine Plan of The Ages" and "The Finished Mystery" with the sungod Ra symbol)
Jehovah’s Witnesses Proclaimers of God’s Kingdom, 1993, pg 651, Has a picture the book “The Finished Mystery” with the symbol on it.

D. Russell wrote about Astrology.

Zion’s Wt, 5/01/1903, pg 3184, reprint We seriously question all the claims of Astrology; yet the following-from whatever source the suggestions come, even though of the Adversary himself-seem remarkably true to our expectations based upon the Word of the Lord, For this reason alone we present them here as follows:-“Saturn is the representative of the great motive power that has dominated the mind of man up to the present time......Saturn-God to save his Throne......Jupiter, representing law, religion and morality........Jupiter must also transfer his allegiance from grasping Saturn to the newly discovered factor that stands for universal brotherhood; namely, Uranus. When Uranus and Jupiter meet in the humane sign of Aquarius in 1914......Uranus is preparing the way for Neptune, who symbolizes Love in it’s very highest form - the fulfilling of the law.” In 1903 Jupiter will be in the Sign of Pisces-sign of the feet, or understanding.....
Zion’s Wt, 5/15/1895, pg 1814, reprint,....system of planets....common center,-the group Pleides, And the reasonable suggestion has been made that the center may be the heavens of the heavens, the highest heaven, the throne of God.
Wt, 6/15/1915, pg 5710, For this reason the suggestion has been made that the Pleides may represent the residence of Jehovah, the place from which he governs the universe.
Creation, 1927, pg 94, The face of the deep , of course, would be toward Pleiades, which are claimed to be the habitation of Jehovah.
Reconciliation, 1928, pg 14....It has been suggested, and with much weight, that one of the stars of the group is the dwelling place of Jehovah.

IV The 1914 date is based on the fall of Jerusalem in 607 B.C. during King Nebuchadnezzar’s time.

A. It was taught for years that Jerusalem fell in 606 B.C. then quietly changed to 607 B.C. so the numbers would add up.

Riches 1936, pg 60 Jerusalem fell in 606 B.C.
Enemies 1937, pg 216, Jerusalem fell in 606 B.C.
The Truth Shall Make You Free 1943, pg 236, Jerusalem fell in 606 B.C.
This Means Everlasting Life 1950 ,pg 204 Jerusalem fell in 607 B.C.

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B. All Encyclopedias disagree with the 607 B.C. date. All historians point to a date twenty years later.

Britannica No 23 Knowledge in Depth, pg 885, The city fell in 587/586 and was completely destroyed.
The book of Knowledge 1991, book 10, pg 104, In 586 B.C., Jerusalem fell to the conquering Babylonians.
The World book on Encyclopedia, 1990, book II, pg 99,In 587 or 586 B.C., the Babylonians conquered Judah and destroyed the Temple in Jerusalem.
Encyclopedia Americana, 1995, book21, pg 304,...survived until 587 B.C, when King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylonia destroyed Jerusalem and annexed Palestine.
Merit Students Encyclopedia, 1987, No 10, pg 159, In 597 B.C., King Nebuchadnezzar II, of Babylonia captured Jerusalem, and in 586 B.C., after a Jewish rebellion, he destroyed the city and took many of its inhabitants....

C. Ten of thousand of clay cuneiform tablets were found in Mesopotamian area to back up the 587/586 B.C. as the all of Jerusalem.

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