Jehovah's Witnesses are true disciple...
Student

Juárez, Mexico

#33521 Feb 6, 2013
FARKEL wrote:
Here are the facts:
Jehovah's Witnesses believe that:
a. The "other sheep" of John 10:16 are to be equated with the "great crowd" of Revelation 7:9..( Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God, p. 364)
Since these “sheep” are not the King’s spiritual “brothers,” he does not invite them to sit on heavenly thrones and rule with him for the special thousand years of his reign.

By his words “inherit the kingdom,” he is inviting them to enter the Kingdom era after he has destroyed all the ungodly kingdoms of this world during “the war of the great day of God the Almighty” at Har–Magedon.(Revelation 16:13-16)

Many of the sheeplike ones now living will survive that war of all wars and enter into Christ’s Thousand Year Reign without dying.

So the King Jesus Christ speaks to these “sheep” as to his children whose time has come to enter into an inheritance from him. By his death as a perfect human to provide a ransom sacrifice for all mankind, he gave up all prospects of personally enjoying the earthly Paradise.(Luke 23:39-43)

In this respect Jesus,“the last Adam,” is unlike “the first man Adam” who sinned and forfeited the earthly Paradise for all his offspring.

Thus the resurrected Jesus Christ, who becomes the “Eternal Father” of all the redeemed world of mankind, had something to bequeath to these sheeplike ones on earth.(1 Corinthians 15:45; Isaiah 9:6, 7)

The human family was founded in “the first man Adam,” with all his Paradise prospects and opportunities. But that lost Paradise is to be restored by means of God’s Kingdom in the hands of “the last Adam,” Jesus Christ.

Not until after they had been driven out of the first Paradise did Adam and Eve begin to have children. Their second son, righteous Abel, was murdered by their first son, Cain. So their son Seth was viewed as taking Abel’s place. With the birth of such offspring, the world of mankind was founded.

But before this, when the parents of the world of mankind were driven out of Paradise, Jehovah God made his merciful promise concerning a “seed” that would bruise, or crush, the head of the symbolic Serpent, Satan the Devil. That “seed” was to be a royal Seed, and this involved a Kingdom, according to God’s purpose and forevision.(Genesis 3:15)

Cont...
Student

Juárez, Mexico

#33522 Feb 6, 2013
When Satan the Serpent and his seed are put out of action, therefore, the redeemed ones of mankind would enter into a Kingdom realm on earth, under the heavenly government of the victorious Seed that crushes the Serpent and his seed.

In this way “the kingdom” that the sheeplike ones “inherit” from their Eternal Father, Jesus Christ, is the Kingdom realm that was “prepared for [them] from the founding of the world.”

Since the symbolic goats will be cut off in destruction at Armageddon, the surviving “sheep” will give a righteous start to the post-Armageddon system of things on a Paradise earth.

Regarding this, Jesus said:“These [goatlike ones] will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life.”—Matthew 25:46.

During this “conclusion of the system of things” since the end of the Gentile Times in 1914,“the sheep” and “the goats” differ in the way they interpret the “sign” of Jesus’“presence.”

Since we unquestionably are in a time of judgment, this question is of vital concern: What does the “sign” signify to us? If left to our own judgment, we might misinterpret the features of that “sign.” So we do well to ask: What does Jesus Christ say that this composite “sign” should indicate to us?

According to him, it should signify that the present system of things is to end shortly in a “great tribulation” more destructive than the global Flood of Noah’s day.—Matthew 24:21.

Yet, rejoice, for this “sign” also signifies that the Millennial Reign of Jesus Christ is at hand, is ready to begin after the destruction of Satan’s system of things on earth.(Luke 21:28)

Therefore, under divine protection you have the priceless opportunity of surviving that “great tribulation” right on into the new system of things, in which righteousness is to dwell forever.

Indeed, there is set before you the possibility of never dying but of living endlessly and blessedly in a paradise earth under the universal sovereignty of Jehovah God!

Whether we are Christ’s spiritual “brothers” or the righteous “sheep,” then, let us act on the “sign” promptly and aright.

Let us have a further part in the outworking of its prominent feature:“This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations.”

Then we shall have nothing to fear when “the end” comes. Instead, our joy will overflow! Then, too, Jesus Christ will be vindicated as the reliable forecaster of the many-featured “sign ... of the conclusion of the system of things.”—Matthew 24:3–25:46. W85 2/1 pp23-24

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#33523 Feb 7, 2013
Student wrote:
<quoted text>
Since these “sheep” are not the King’s spiritual “brothers,” he does not invite them to sit on heavenly thrones and rule with him for the special thousand years of his reign.
By his words “inherit the kingdom,” he is inviting them to enter the Kingdom era after he has destroyed all the ungodly kingdoms of this world during “the war of the great day of God the Almighty” at Har–Magedon.(Revelation 16:13-16)
Many of the sheeplike ones now living will survive that war of all wars and enter into Christ’s Thousand Year Reign without dying.
So the King Jesus Christ speaks to these “sheep” as to his children whose time has come to enter into an inheritance from him. By his death as a perfect human to provide a ransom sacrifice for all mankind, he gave up all prospects of personally enjoying the earthly Paradise.(Luke 23:39-43)
In this respect Jesus,“the last Adam,” is unlike “the first man Adam” who sinned and forfeited the earthly Paradise for all his offspring.
Thus the resurrected Jesus Christ, who becomes the “Eternal Father” of all the redeemed world of mankind, had something to bequeath to these sheeplike ones on earth.(1 Corinthians 15:45; Isaiah 9:6, 7)
The human family was founded in “the first man Adam,” with all his Paradise prospects and opportunities. But that lost Paradise is to be restored by means of God’s Kingdom in the hands of “the last Adam,” Jesus Christ.
Not until after they had been driven out of the first Paradise did Adam and Eve begin to have children. Their second son, righteous Abel, was murdered by their first son, Cain. So their son Seth was viewed as taking Abel’s place. With the birth of such offspring, the world of mankind was founded.
But before this, when the parents of the world of mankind were driven out of Paradise, Jehovah God made his merciful promise concerning a “seed” that would bruise, or crush, the head of the symbolic Serpent, Satan the Devil. That “seed” was to be a royal Seed, and this involved a Kingdom, according to God’s purpose and forevision.(Genesis 3:15)
Cont...
This is an invalid argument.

I never read all of your posts.

It's nothing but cult lies from the evil and wicked jehovah's witnesses who preach lies.

I would like to see scriptures which support the lies your cult preaches.

But I will never see scriptures to support the cult of jehovah's witnesses false doctrines.

And you can't provide any scriptures which support the false doctrines of the jehovah's witnesses.

You repeat cult lies.

There are no scriptures which support the false belief of only 144,000 in Heaven.

And you can provide on single scripture.

You can't provide scripture which supports the false doctrine that one must be in any organization to receive salvation, but it is a false doctrine of the evil and wicked cult of jehovah's witnesses.

You cannot provide scripture which supports the teaching of jehovah's witnesses, that Heaven was closed.

Yet, I expect you to come back with cult lies time and again, all of which originate with the one you follow, SATAN!

“JWs PREACH LIES!”

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#33524 Feb 7, 2013
Some of the many lies taught by jehovah's witnesses.

It only takes one to make it a false religion.

1877 'The End Of This World; that is the end of the gospel and the beginning of the millennial age is nearer than most men suppose; indeed we have already entered the transition period, which is to be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation Dan. 12:3." (N.H. Barbour and C.T. Russell, Three Worlds, and the Harvest of This World, p. 17).

1879 "Christ came in the character of a Bridegroom in 1874.... at the beginning of the Gospel harvest." (Watchtower, Oct 1879, p. 4)

1880 "We need not here repeat the evidences that the "seventh trump" began its sounding A.D., 1840, and will continue until the end of the time of trouble, and the end of "The times of the Gentiles," A.D., 1914, and that it is the trouble of this "Great day," which is here symbolically called the voice of the Archangel when he begins the deliverance of fleshly Israel. "At that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince (Archangel) which standeth for the children of thy people and there shall be a time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation." Dan. xii. 1. Nor will we here, again present the conclusive Bible proof that our Lord came for his Bride in 1874, and has an unseen work as Reaper of the first-fruits of this Gospel Age.(Zion's Watchtower November, 1880 p. 1)

1886 "The outlook at the opening of the New Year has some very encouraging features. The outward evidences are that the marshaling of the hosts for the battle of the great day of God Almighty, is in progress while the skirmishing is commencing.… The time is come for Messiah to take the dominion of earth and to overthrow the oppressors and corrupters of the earth,(Rev. 19:15 and 11:17, 18) preparatory to the establishment of everlasting peace upon the only firm foundation of righteousness and truth." (Zion's Watchtower, January, 1886;Watchtower reprints I, p. 817)

1888 "In this chapter we present the Bible evidence proving that the full end of the times of the gentiles, i.e., the full end of their lease of dominion, will be reached in A.D. 1914; and that the date will be the farthest limit of the rule of imperfect men. And be it observed, that if this is shown to be a fact firmly established by the Scriptures, it will prove; Firstly, that at that date the Kingdom of God, for which our Lord taught us to pray, saying, Thy Kingdom come, will obtain full, universal control, and that it will then be set up, or firmly established, in the earth, on the ruins of present institutions." (The Time Is At Hand, 1888, p. 76, 77)

1889 "Be not surprised, then, when in subsequent chapters we present proofs that the setting up of the Kingdom of God is already begun, that it is pointed out in prophecy as due to begin the exercise of power in A.D. 1878, and that the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty (Rev. 16:14) which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced. The gathering of the armies is plainly visible from the standpoint of God's word." (Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. 2, The Time Is At Hand, 1889 Ed., p. 101. The 1915 Edition of this texts changed "A.D. 1914" to read 'A.D. 1915')

1889 "Here we furnish the evidence that from the creation of Adam to (but not including) A.D. 1873 was six thousand years. And though the Bible contains no direct statement that the seventh thousand will be the epoch of Christ's reign, the great Sabbath Day of restitution to the world, yet the venerable tradition is not without a reasonable foundation." (Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. 2, p. 39. 1889)

1889 "If, then, the seventh thousand-year period of earth's history be an epoch specially noted as the period of Christ's reign, we shall by showing that it began in 1873, be proving that we are already in it." (Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. 2, p. 40. 1889)

THESE LIES WERE PREACHED BY JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

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#33525 Feb 7, 2013
MORE LIES TAUGHT BY JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES WHICH ARE NOT SUPPORTED BY BIBLE SCRIPTURE...

1889 "In the coming 26 years, all present governments will be overthrown and dissolved." (C.T. Russell, Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. 2, p. 98-99, 1889)

1889 "In this chapter we present the Bible evidence which indicates that six thousand years from the creation of Adam were complete with A.D. 1872; and hence that, since A.D. 1872 are chronologically entered upon the seventh thousand or the Millennium." (Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. 2, p. 33, 1889)

1889 "Remember that the forty years' Jewish Harvest ended October A.D. 69, and was followed by the complete overthrow of that nation; and that likewise the forty years of the Gospel age harvest will end October, 1914, and that likewise the overthrow of 'Christendom,' so-called, must be expected to immediately follow." (Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. 2, p. 245)

1894 "Seventeen years ago people said, concerning the time features presented in Millennial Dawn, They seem reasonable in many respects, but surely no such radical changes could occur between now and the close of 1914: if you had proved that they would come about in a century or two, it would seem much more probable. What changes have since occurred, and what velocity is gained daily?'The old is quickly passing and the new is coming in.' Now, in view of recent labor troubles and threatened anarchy, our readers are writing to know if there may not be a mistake in the 1914 date. They say that they do not see how present conditions can hold out so long under the strain. We see no reason for changing the figures-nor could we change them if we would. They are, we believe, God's dates, not ours. But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble." (Zion's Watchtower, Can It Be Delayed until 1914? C. T. Russell July 15, 1894, Also in Watchtower Reprints, l894 p. 1677)

1894 "A few more years will wind up the present order of things, and then the chastened world will stand face to face with the actual conditions of the established Kingdom of God. And yet the course of the Church is to be finished within the space of time that intervenes." (Watchtower p. 56, 1894)

1894 "We see no reason for changing the figures - nor could we change them if we would. They are, we believe, God's dates, not ours. But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble." (Watchtower July 15, 1894, p 266; p 1677 reprints)

1894 "We see no reason for changing the figures nor could we change them if we would. They are, we believe, Gods dates, not ours. But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble." (Watchtower, July 15, 1894, Reprints p. 1677)

1897 "...this measurement is 3416 inches, symbolizing 3416 years.... This calculation shows A.D. 1874 as marking the beginning of the period of trouble...." (Russell, Studies in the Scriptures: Thy Kingdom Come, Series III, p. 342, 1897 edition [1916 edition changed to read: "We find it to be 3457 inches, symbolizing 3457 years.... Thus the Pyramid witnesses that the close of 1914 will be the beginning of the time of trouble...."] note: the measurement was the length of an interior passageway discovered inside the Pyramids. It has no reference in Scripture.)

1897 "Complete destruction of the 'powers that be' of 'this present evil worlds - political, financial, ecclesiastical - about the close of the Time of the Gentiles; October A.D. 1914." (C.T. Russell, Studies in the Scriptures, IV, p. 622, 1897)

1897 "Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874, A.D....and the formal inauguration of his kingly office dates from April 1878, A.D." (Studies in the Scriptures, Vol.4, p.621, 1897)

ALL LIES BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE EVIL AND WICKED CULT OF THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

NONE OF THESE ARE SUPPORTED BY SCRIPTURE.

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#33526 Feb 7, 2013
MORE LIES TAUGHT BY SATAN'S CULT, THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

1902 "In view of this strong Bible evidence concerning the Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the kingdom of God, will be accomplished by the end of A.D. 1914." (The Time Is At Hand, 1902 edition, p. 99)

1903 "When Uranus and Jupiter meet in the humane sign of Aquarius in 1914, the long-promised era will have made a fair start in the work of setting man free to work out his own salvation, and will insure the ultimate realization of dreams and ideals of all poets and sages in history." (Watchtower, May 1, 1903, p. 130-131; p3184 Reprints)

1904 "According to our expectations the stress of the great time of trouble will be on us soon, somewhere between 1910 and 1912, culminating with the end of the 'Times of the Gentiles,' October, 1914." (The New Creation, Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. 6, p. 579, 1904)

1908 "In view of this strong Bible evidence concerning the Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished at the end of A. D. 1914." (The Time Is At Hand; 1889; 1908 ed.; p. 99)

1908 "True, it is expecting great things to claim, as we do, that within the coming twenty-six years all present governments will be overthrown and dissolved" (The Time Is At Hand; 1889; 1908 ed.; p. 99)

1914 "Even if the time of our change should not come within ten years, what more should we ask? Are we not a blessed, happy people? Is not our God faithful? If anyone knows anything better, let him take it. If any of you ever find anything better, we hope you will tell us." (Watchtower, Dec 15, 1914, p. 376.)

1914 "Studying God's Word, we have measured the 2520 years, the seven symbolic times, from that year 606 B.C. and have found that it reached down to October, 1914, as nearly as we were able to reckon. We did not say positively that this would be the year." (Watchtower, November 1, 1914, p. 325)

1914 "While it's possible that Armageddon may begin next Spring, yet this purely speculation to attempt to say just when. We see, however, that there are parallels between the close of the Jewish age and this Gospel age. These parallels seem to point to the year just before us part particularly the early months." (Watchtower Reprints, VI, Sept 1, 1914, p. 5527)

1914 "There is absolutely no ground for Bible students to question that the consummation of this Gospel age is now even at the door, and that it will end as the Scriptures foretell in a great time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation. We see the participants in this great crisis banding themselves together… The great crisis, the great clash, symbolically represented as a fire, that will consume the ecclesiastical heavens and the social earth, is very near." (Watchtower Reprints, VI, May 1, 1914, p. 5450)

1915 "The present great war in Europe is the beginning of the Armageddon of the Scriptures Rev 19:16-20). It will eventuate in the complete overthrow of all the systems of error which have so long oppressed the people of God and deluded the world. We believe the present war cannot last much longer until revolutions shall break out" (C.T. Russell, Pastor Russell's Sermons, p. 676, Sometime during World War I)

“JWs PREACH LIES!”

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#33527 Feb 7, 2013
1915 Here we furnish the evidence that from the creation of Adam to A.D. 1873 was six thousand years. And though the Bible contains no direct statement that the seventh thousand will be the epoch of Christ's reign, the great Sabbath Day of restitution to the world, yet the venerable tradition is not without reasonable foundation.(The Time Is At Hand; 1889; 1915 ed.; p. 39)

1915 If, then, the seventh thousand-year period of earth's history be an epoch specially noted as the period of Christ's reign, we shall, by showing that it began in A.D. 1873, be proving that we are already in it.(The Time Is At Hand; 1889; 1915 ed.; p. 40)

1915 Firstly, that at that date [1914] the Kingdom of God, for which our Lord taught us to pray, saying, "Thy Kingdom come," will begin to assume control, and that it will then shortly be "set up," or firmly established, in the earth, on the ruins of present institutions.(The Time Is At Hand; 1889; 1915 ed.; p. 77)

1915 "In view of this strong Bible evidence concerning the Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the kingdom of God, will be accomplished near the end of A.D. 1915.(The Time Is At Hand, 1915 edition, p. 99)

1915 "Be not surprised, then, when in subsequent chapters we present proofs that the setting up of the Kingdom of God is already begun, that it is pointed out in prophecy as due to begin the exercise of power in A.D. 1878, and that the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty'(Rev. 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1915, with the complete overthrow of the earth's present rulership, is already commenced." (The Time Is At Hand; 1889; 1915 ed.; p. 101)

1915 "As in the type that date - three and a half years after the death of Christ - marked the end of all special favor to the Jew and the beginning of favor to the Gentiles, so we recognize A.D. 1881 as marking the close of the 'high calling,' or invitation to the blessing peculiar to this age - to become joint-heirs with Christ and partakers of the divine nature." (The Time Is At Hand; 1889; 1915 ed.; p. 235)

1915 So it was in this harvest also up to A.D. 1878 the time prophecies and the fact of the Lord's presence, substantially as here presented, though less clearly, was our message. Since then the work has widened, and the view of other truths has become brighter and clearer; but the same fact and scriptures, teaching the same time and presence, stand unchallenged and incontrovertible.(The Time Is At Hand; 1889; 1915 ed.; p. 236)

1915 The Gentile Times prove that the present governments must all be overturned about the close of A.D. 1915; and Parallelism above shows that this period corresponds exactly with the year A.D. 70, which witnessed the completion of the downfall of the Jewish polity.(The Time Is At Hand, 1915 edition, p. 242)

1915 We are already living in the seventh millennium - since October 1872.(The Time Is At Hand; 1889; 1915 ed.; p. 363)

1915 The Battle of Armageddon, to which this war is leading, will be a great contest between right and wrong, and will signify the complete and everlasting overthrow of the wrong, and the permanent establishment of Messiah's righteous kingdom for the blessing of the world.… Our sympathies are broad enough to cover all engaged in the dreadful strife, as our hope is broad enough and deep enough to include all in the great blessings which our Master and his Millennial kingdom are about to bring to the world.(Watchtower Reprints, VI, April 1, 1915, p. 5659)

1915 To our understanding the general call to this joint heirship with our Redeemer as members of the New Creation of God, ceased in 1881.(The New Creation; 1899; 1915 ed.; p. 95)

MORE LIES FROM THE EVIL AND WICKED JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES...

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#33528 Feb 7, 2013
Here's another false teaching from jehovah's witnesses:

The July 22, 1956 Awake on page 6 stated that "at times mediums produce a protoplasm known as ectoplasm."

Can you believe the garbage taught by this evil and wicked cult?
Student

Juárez, Mexico

#33529 Feb 7, 2013
J F Rutherford wrote:
<quoted text>
This is an invalid argument.
I never read all of your posts.
It's nothing but cult lies from the evil and wicked jehovah's witnesses who preach lies.
I would like to see scriptures which support the lies your cult preaches.
But I will never see scriptures to support the cult of jehovah's witnesses false doctrines.
And you can't provide any scriptures which support the false doctrines of the jehovah's witnesses.
You repeat cult lies.
There are no scriptures which support the false belief of only 144,000 in Heaven.
And you can provide on single scripture.
You can't provide scripture which supports the false doctrine that one must be in any organization to receive salvation, but it is a false doctrine of the evil and wicked cult of jehovah's witnesses.
You cannot provide scripture which supports the teaching of jehovah's witnesses, that Heaven was closed.
Yet, I expect you to come back with cult lies time and again, all of which originate with the one you follow, SATAN!
Since these “sheep” are not the King’s spiritual “brothers,” he does not invite them to sit on heavenly thrones and rule with him for the special thousand years of his reign.
By his words “inherit the kingdom,” he is inviting them to enter the Kingdom era after he has destroyed all the ungodly kingdoms of this world during “the war of the great day of God the Almighty” at Har–Magedon.

Read these Scripture!!!!
(Revelation 16:13-16)

Many of the sheeplike ones now living will survive that war of all wars and enter into Christ’s Thousand Year Reign without dying.
So the King Jesus Christ speaks to these “sheep” as to his children whose time has come to enter into an inheritance from him. By his death as a perfect human to provide a ransom sacrifice for all mankind, he gave up all prospects of personally enjoying the earthly Paradise.

Read these Scriptures!!!
(Luke 23:39-43)

In this respect Jesus,“the last Adam,” is unlike “the first man Adam” who sinned and forfeited the earthly Paradise for all his offspring.
Thus the resurrected Jesus Christ, who becomes the “Eternal Father” of all the redeemed world of mankind, had something to bequeath to these sheeplike ones on earth.

Read these Scriptures!!!
(1 Corinthians 15:45; Isaiah 9:6, 7)

The human family was founded in “the first man Adam,” with all his Paradise prospects and opportunities. But that lost Paradise is to be restored by means of God’s Kingdom in the hands of “the last Adam,” Jesus Christ.

Not until after they had been driven out of the first Paradise did Adam and Eve begin to have children. Their second son, righteous Abel, was murdered by their first son, Cain. So their son Seth was viewed as taking Abel’s place. With the birth of such offspring, the world of mankind was founded.

But before this, when the parents of the world of mankind were driven out of Paradise, Jehovah God made his merciful promise concerning a “seed” that would bruise, or crush, the head of the symbolic Serpent, Satan the Devil. That “seed” was to be a royal Seed, and this involved a Kingdom, according to God’s purpose and forevision.

Read this very first prophecy at (Genesis 3:15)

“JWs PREACH LIES!”

Since: Dec 12

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#33530 Feb 7, 2013
Student wrote:
<quoted text>
Since these “sheep” are not the King’s spiritual “brothers,” he does not invite them to sit on heavenly thrones and rule with him for the special thousand years of his reign.
By his words “inherit the kingdom,” he is inviting them to enter the Kingdom era after he has destroyed all the ungodly kingdoms of this world during “the war of the great day of God the Almighty” at Har–Magedon.
Read these Scripture!!!!
(Revelation 16:13-16)
Many of the sheeplike ones now living will survive that war of all wars and enter into Christ’s Thousand Year Reign without dying.
So the King Jesus Christ speaks to these “sheep” as to his children whose time has come to enter into an inheritance from him. By his death as a perfect human to provide a ransom sacrifice for all mankind, he gave up all prospects of personally enjoying the earthly Paradise.
Read these Scriptures!!!
(Luke 23:39-43)
In this respect Jesus,“the last Adam,” is unlike “the first man Adam” who sinned and forfeited the earthly Paradise for all his offspring.
Thus the resurrected Jesus Christ, who becomes the “Eternal Father” of all the redeemed world of mankind, had something to bequeath to these sheeplike ones on earth.
Read these Scriptures!!!
(1 Corinthians 15:45; Isaiah 9:6, 7)
The human family was founded in “the first man Adam,” with all his Paradise prospects and opportunities. But that lost Paradise is to be restored by means of God’s Kingdom in the hands of “the last Adam,” Jesus Christ.
Not until after they had been driven out of the first Paradise did Adam and Eve begin to have children. Their second son, righteous Abel, was murdered by their first son, Cain. So their son Seth was viewed as taking Abel’s place. With the birth of such offspring, the world of mankind was founded.
But before this, when the parents of the world of mankind were driven out of Paradise, Jehovah God made his merciful promise concerning a “seed” that would bruise, or crush, the head of the symbolic Serpent, Satan the Devil. That “seed” was to be a royal Seed, and this involved a Kingdom, according to God’s purpose and forevision.
Read this very first prophecy at (Genesis 3:15)
I've read and understand the scriptures and that's why I know that you are a liar.

There's not any scriptures which support that jehovah's witness false doctrine of only 144,000 in Heaven.

But I still invite you to show one, rather that the cult garbage you constantly post.

You do know that God will judge your lies, don't you?

You are already recorded in Heaven as a liar.

Your only hope is to pray to Jesus for forgiveness.
Student

Caborca, Mexico

#33531 Feb 8, 2013
J F Rutherford wrote:
<quoted text>
I've read and understand the scriptures and that's why I know that you are a liar.
There's not any scriptures which support that jehovah's witness false doctrine of only 144,000 in Heaven.
But I still invite you to show one, rather that the cult garbage you constantly post.
You do know that God will judge your lies, don't you?
You are already recorded in Heaven as a liar.
Your only hope is to pray to Jesus for forgiveness.
Do you have this book “The New Creation" from 1899? Or are you quoting from someone else’s publication? I do not have it, so I couldn’t tell you if what you post is true or not.

But let see what Jesus had to say about his followers.

These are reasonable questions, for as one great religious teacher, Jesus Christ, stated:“Every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit; a good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, neither can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Every tree not producing fine fruit gets cut down and thrown into the fire. Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those men.”—Matthew 7:17-20.

Certainly world history must give us pause and make us wonder what role religion has played in the many wars that have devastated mankind and caused untold suffering.

Why have so many people killed and been killed in the name of religion? The Crusades, the Inquisition, the conflicts in the Middle East and Northern Ireland, the slaughter between Iraq and Iran (1980-88), the Hindu-Sikh clashes in India—all these events certainly make thinking people raise questions about religious beliefs and ethics.

The realm of Christendom has been noteworthy for its hypocrisy in this field. In two world wars, Catholic has killed Catholic and Protestant has killed Protestant at the behest of their “Christian” political leaders.

Yet the Bible clearly contrasts the works of the flesh and the fruitage of the spirit. Regarding the works of the flesh, it states:“They are fornication, uncleanness, loose conduct, idolatry, practice of spiritism, enmities, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, contentions, divisions, sects, envies, drunken bouts, revelries, and things like these.

As to these things I am forewarning you, the same way as I did forewarn you, that those who practice such things will not inherit God’s kingdom.”

Yet so-called Christians have practiced these things for centuries, and their conduct has often been condoned by their clergy.—Galatians 5:19-21.

In contrast, the positive fruitage of the spirit is described as:“love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faith, mildness, self-control. Against such things there is no law.”

All religions ought to be producing this kind of peaceable fruitage. But do they? Does yours?—Galatians 5:22, 23.
Student

Caborca, Mexico

#33532 Feb 8, 2013
JESUS CHRIST was accused of being a drunkard, a glutton, a Sabbath breaker, a false witness, a blasphemer of God, and a messenger of Satan.

He was also accused of being subversive.(Matthew 9:34; 11:19; 12:24; 26:65; John 8:13; 9:16; 19:12)

After Jesus’ death and resurrection, his disciples were likewise the target of serious accusations. One group of first-century Christians were dragged to the city rulers by people crying out:‘These men have overturned the inhabited earth.’(Acts 17:6)

On another occasion the apostle Paul and his companion Silas were taken to the authorities and charged with greatly disturbing the city of Philippi.(Acts 16:20)

Paul was later accused of being a “pestilent fellow and stirring up seditions among all the Jews throughout the inhabited earth” and of trying “to profane the temple.”(Acts 24:5, 6)

The principal men of the Jews in Rome accurately described the situation of Jesus’ followers when they acknowledged:“For truly as regards this sect it is known to us that everywhere it is spoken against.”(Acts 28:22)

Evidently, this new group established by Jesus Christ was considered by some to be a religious group with radical views and practices that clashed with what was accepted in those days as normal social behavior.

Undoubtedly, many today would have considered the Christians a destructive cult. The accusers were often prominent and respected members of the community, and this seems to have added weight to the allegations.

Many believed the accusations against Jesus and his disciples. Yet, as you probably know, every one of these charges was false!

The fact that people said these things did not make them true.

What about today? Would it be accurate to refer to Jehovah’s Witnesses as a religious group with radical views and practices that clash with what is accepted as normal social behavior?

Are Jehovah’s Witnesses a cult?

What the Evidence Shows

A government official of the city of St. Petersburg, Russia, explained:“Jehovah’s Witnesses were presented to us as some kind of underground sect sitting in the darkness and slaughtering children and killing themselves.”

However, the people of Russia have recently become better acquainted with the true nature of the Witnesses.

After working with Jehovah’s Witnesses in connection with an international convention, the same official observed:“Now I see normal, smiling people, even better than many people I know. They are peaceful and calm, and they love one another very much.” He added:“I really do not understand why people tell such lies about them.”

Jehovah’s Witnesses do not hold ritualistic meetings, nor is their worship cloaked in secrecy.

Non-Witness author Julia Mitchell Corbett notes:“When they meet, usually more than once a week, in Kingdom Halls (their meeting sites are not called churches), most of their time is spent in Bible study and discussion.” Their meeting places are clearly marked with a sign.

The meetings are open, and the general public is invited to attend. Unannounced guests are more than welcome.

The “Witnesses have earned the reputation of being honest, courteous, and industrious,” adds Corbett in her book Religion in America.

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Student

Caborca, Mexico

#33533 Feb 8, 2013
Many who are not Witnesses readily acknowledge that there is nothing freakish or bizarre about Jehovah’s Witnesses. Their conduct does not clash with what is accepted as normal social behavior.

The New Encyclopædia Britannica accurately states that the Witnesses “insist upon a high moral code in personal conduct.”

The director of news and special projects for a television station in the United States wrote to Jehovah’s Witnesses in response to a biased report about the Witnesses on the TV news show 60 Minutes.

He said:“If more people lived the way your faith does, this nation wouldn’t be in the shape it is in. I am one newsman who knows that your organization is founded on love and a strong faith in the Creator. I want you to know that not all News people are as biased.”
Student

Caborca, Mexico

#33534 Feb 8, 2013
Christendom’s Waters Reveled to Be Wormwood

Beliefs and Attitudes of Christendom
God’s personal name is unimportant:“The use of any proper name for the one and only God ... is entirely inappropriate for the universal faith of the Christian Church.”(Preface to the Revised Standard Version)

What the Bible really Says
Jesus prayed that God’s name be sanctified. Peter said:“Everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.”
Acts 2:21-“And everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.”

Joel 2:32-“And it must occur that everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will get away safe; for in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will prove to be the escaped ones, just as Jehovah has said, and in among the survivors, whom Jehovah is calling.”

Matthew 6:9-“YOU must pray, then, this way:“’Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified.”

Exodus 6:3-“And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as God Almighty, but as respects my name Jehovah I did not make myself known to them.”

Revelation 4:11-“You are worthy Jehovah, even our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they existed and were created.”

Revelation 15:3-And they are singing the song of Moses the slave of God and the song of the Lamb, saying:“ Great and wonderful are your works, Jehovah God, the Almighty. Righteous and true are your ways, King of eternity.”

Revelation 19:6-And I heard what was as a voice of a great crowd and as a sound of many waters and as a sound of heavy thunders. They said:“Praise Jah, YOU people, because Jehovah our God, the Almighty, has begun to rule as King.”

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Student

Caborca, Mexico

#33535 Feb 8, 2013
Beliefs and Attitudes of Christendom

God is a Trinity:“The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and yet there are not three Gods but one God.”(The Catholic Encyclopedia, 1912 edition)

What the Bible really Says

The Bible says that Jehovah is greater than Jesus and is the God and head of Christ.

John 14:28-YOU heard that I said to YOU, I am going away and I am coming [back] to YOU.” If you loved me, YOU would rejoice that I am going my way to the Father,“because the Father is greater than I am.”

John 20:17-Jesus said to her:“Stop clinging to me. For I have not yet ascended to the Father. But be on your way to my brothers and say to them,‘I am ascending to my Father and YOUR Father and to my God and YOUR God.’”

1 Corinthians 11:3-But I want YOU to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn the head of a woman is the man; in turn ‘the head of Christ is God.’

The holy spirit is God’s active force.

Matthew 3:11-I, for my part, baptize YOU with water because of YOUR repentance, but the one coming after me is strong than I am, whose sandals I am not fit to take off. That one will baptize YOU people with holy spirit and with fire.

Luke 1:41-Well, as Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the infant in her womb leaped; and Elizabeth was filled with holy spirit.

Acts 2:3, 4-And tongues as if of fire became visible to them and were distributed about, and one sat upon each one of them and they all ‘became filled with holy spirit’ and started to speak with different tongues, just as the spirit was granting them to make utterance.

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Student

Caborca, Mexico

#33536 Feb 8, 2013
Beliefs and Attitudes of Christendom

The human soul is immortal:
“When man dies his soul and body are disunited. His body .. decays ... The human soul, however, does not die.”(What Happens After Death, a Roman Catholic publication)

What the Bible really Says

Man is a soul. At death the soul ceases to think or feel and returns to the dust from which it was made.

Genesis 2:7-And Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul.

Genesis 3:19-In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.

Psalm 146:3, 4-Do not put YOUR trust in nobles, Nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs.“His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; ‘In that day his thoughts do perish.’”

Ecclesiastes 3:19, 20-For there is an eventuality as respects the sons of mankind and an eventuality as respects of beast, and they have the same eventuality. As the one dies, so the other dies; and they all have but one spirit, so that there is no superiority of the man over the beast, for everything is vanity.“All are going to one place. They have all come to be from the dust, and they are all returning to the dust.”

Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10-For the living are conscious that they will die, but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten.... All that your hand finds to do, do with your very power, for there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol, the place to which you are going.

Ezekiel 18:4, 20-Look! All the souls--to me they belong. As the soul of the father so likewise the soul of the son--to me they belong. The soul that is sinning--it itself will die.... The soul that is sinning--it itself will die. A son himself will bear nothing because of the error of the father, and a father himself will bear nothing because of the error of the son. Upon his own self the very righteousness of the righteous one will come to be, and upon his own self the very wickedness of a wicked one will come to be.

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Student

Caborca, Mexico

#33537 Feb 8, 2013
Beliefs and Attitudes of Christendom

The wicked are punished after death in hell:“According to traditional Christian belief, hell is a place of unending anguish and pain.”(The World Book Encyclopedia, 1987 edition)

What the Bible really Says

The wages of sin is death, not life in torment.

Romans 6:23-“For the wages of sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord.”

The dead rest unconscious in hell (Hades, Sheol), awaiting a resurrection.

Psalm 89:48-What able-bodied man is there alive who will not see death? Can he provide escape for his soul from the hand of Sheol?

John 5:28, 29-Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.

John 11:24, 25-Martha said to him:“I know he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.” Jesus said to her:“I am the resurrection and the life. He that exercises faith in me, even though he dies, will come to life”

Revelation 20:13, 14-And the sea gave up those dead in it, and death and Hades gave up those dead in them, and they were judged individually according to their deeds. And death and Hades were hurled into the lake of fire. This means the second death, the lake of fire.

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Student

Caborca, Mexico

#33538 Feb 8, 2013
Beliefs and Attitudes of Christendom

The title Mediatrix [female mediator] is applied to Our Lady.”(New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1967 edition)

What the Bible really Says

The only mediator between God and men is Jesus.

John 14:6-Jesus said to him:“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

1 Timothy 2:5-For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus

Hebrews 9:15-So that is why he is a mediator of a new covenant, in order that, because a death has occurred for [their] release by ransom from the transgressions under the former covenant, the ones who have been called might receive the promised of the everlasting inheritance.

Hebrews 12:24-and Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and the blood of sprinkling, which speaks in a better way than Abel’s [blood].

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Student

Caborca, Mexico

#33539 Feb 8, 2013
Beliefs and Attitudes of Christendom

Infants should be baptized:“From the very beginning the Church has administered the Sacrament of Baptism to infants. Not only was this practice considered lawful, but it was also taught to be absolutely necessary for salvation.”(New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1967 edition)

What the Bible really Says

Baptism is for those who have been made disciples and taught to obey Jesus’ commandments. To qualify for baptism, a person must understand God’s Word and exercise faith.

Matthew 28:19, 20-“Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit,‘teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU.’”

Luke 3:21-23-Now when all the people were baptized, Jesus also was baptized and, as he was praying, the heaven was opened up and the holy spirit in bodily shape like a dove came down upon him, and a voice came out of heaven:“You are my Son, the beloved; I have approved you.” Furthermore, Jesus himself, when he commenced [his work], was about thirty years old

Acts 8:35, 36-Philip opened his mouth and, starting with this Scripture, he declared to him the good news about Jesus. Now as they were going over the road, they came to a certain body of water, and the eunuch said:“Look! A body of water; what prevent me from getting baptized?”

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Student

Caborca, Mexico

#33540 Feb 8, 2013
Beliefs and Attitudes of Christendom

Most churches are divided into a laity class and a clergy class, which ministers to the laity. The clergy are usually given a salary in exchange for their ministry and are exalted over the laity by titles such as “Reverend,”“Father,” or “His Eminence.”

What the Bible really Says

All first-century Christians were ministers and shared in preaching the good news.

Acts 2:17, 18-“And in the last days,” God says,“I shall pour out some of my spirit upon every sort of flesh, and YOUR sons and YOUR daughters will prophesy and YOUR young men will see visions and YOUR old men will dream dreams; and even upon my men slaves and upon my women slaves I will pour out some of my spirit in those days, and they will prophesy.”

Romans 10:10-13-“For with the heart one exercises faith for righteousness, but with the mouth one makes public declaration for salvation.” For the Scripture says:“None that rest his faith on him will be disappointed.” For there is no distinction between Jew and Geek, for there is the same Lord over all, who is rich to all those calling upon him. For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.”

Romans 16:1-I recommend to YOU Phoebe our sister, who is a minster of the congregation that is in Cenchreae

A Christian should “give free,” not for a salary.

Matthew 10:7, 8-As YOU go, preach, saying,‘The kingdom of the heavens has drawn near.’ Cure sick people, raise up dead persons, make lepers clean, expel demons. YOU received free, give free.
Jesus strictly forbade the use of religious titles.

Matthew 6:2-Hence when you go making gifts of mercy, do not blow a trumpet ahead of you, just as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be glorified by men. Truly I say to YOU, They are having their reward in full.

Matthew 23:2-12-“The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the seat of Moses. Therefore all the things they tell YOU, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds, for they say but do not perform. They bind up heavy loads and put them upon the shoulders of men, but they themselves are not willing to budge them with their finger.

All the works they do they do to be viewed by men; for they broaden the [scripture-containing] cases that they war as safeguards, and enlarge the fringes [of their garments]. They like the most prominent place at evening meals and the front seats in the synagogues, and the greetings in the marketplaces and to be called Rabbi by men.

But YOU, do not YOU be called Rabbi, for one is YOUR teacher, whereas all YOU are brothers. Moreover, do not call anyone YOUR father on earth, for one is YOUR Father, the heavenly One.
Neither be called ‘leaders,’ for YOUR Leader is one, the Christ. But the greatest one among YOU must be YOUR minister. Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

“Woe to YOU, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because YOU shut up the kingdom of the heavens before men; for YOU yourselves do not go in, neither do YOU permit those on their way in to go in.”

1 Peter 5:1-3-Therefore, to the older men among YOU I give this exhortation, for I too am an older man with [them] and a witness of the sufferings of the Christ, a sharer even of the glory that is to be revealed.

Shepherd the flock of God in YOUR care, not under compulsion, but willingly; neither for love of dishonest gain, but eagerly; neither as lording it over those who are God’s inheritance, but becoming examples to the flock.

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