That's a good question. I'm sure we could easily get into it if we tried. I enjoy discussing religion, but I know it's a sensitive subject for many people, and not everyone reacts well. It doesn't always lend itself to civil conversation, even among friends.I appreciate your responses. It's worth noting that you and I have very little discord over my religious beliefs, yet Kimare and you have a great deal. Is that because I never insist on imposing my religious beliefs on you?
My questions tend toward "how do you know?" and "how can we be sure this is true?" and ultimately, I don't believe there is any way to know. No religious belief on Earth can truly be "proven", so humans are forced to choose a religion based on... let's say "less than ideal" evidence. I prefer to recognize that which is unprovable, and leave it out of my worldview. But, I'm fascinated by how other humans form their beliefs, and I'm always willing to discuss it. It doesn't always HAVE to devolve into a shouting match.
But KiMare's claims go beyond religion. He makes pronouncement about anal sex being "demeaning" and "harmful", neither of which I've ever experienced. He claims that it's a scientifically proven fact that marriage is a... well, I don't recall his long-winded, multi-word descriptive, but when asked for the URL's of scientists who back this up, he falls curiously quiet. RiccardoFire, too. He once insisted that "most" scientists believe in Creationism and are seeking theological explanations for the origin of the universe. But when asked for links to all the many scientific organizations that agree with his claim, I could feed a family of boa constrictors with all the crickets I hear.
I suppose it really depends on the subject matter. On this thread, for example, there is a specific question for discussion. If we're going to be asking if homosexuality is a sin, then we need to explore questions about criminality and justice, behavior and punishment. If I am only attracted to men, and I find a man who feels the same way, and we decide to spend our lives together, giving each other security and making each other happy, which part of that dictates that the proper and moral treatment for us is to light us on fire and burn us alive forever? This "punishment" seems to leap WAY beyond the limits of any appropriate reaction. It's ridiculously overblown. The same is true for disbelief. How could this be a "crime" which merits punishment AT ALL, let alone eternal agony? These are not acts of justice, or love, or mercy. It strains credibility, to say the least.
It may depend on how my "opponent" reacts, too. If they're willing to explore these questions, and see my point of view, then I'm sure we can continue amicably. But if someone ignores my every question, refuses to explain the details of their own doctrines, or dismisses me as "blind" without helping to correct that, then their intractability is certainly going to rile me up.
But, it's all just in fun. It's not as if KiMare could ACTUALLY impose his religious beliefs on me. I just enjoy practicing my debate skills, and familiarizing myself with the various points of view out there. I guess I wouldn't get much of that by "preaching to the choir", so I don't often engage people who seem to already be on "my side". Everyone is entitled to their beliefs, and I would never advocate taking that away from anyone, but regardless of whatever supernatural beliefs a person has, if they already believe that gay people (or atheists) should be treated as full citizens then I have no real beef with them. I'm always open to the discussion though. Just be prepared for me to question why you think you know what you think you know, and how you think you know it.