Is homosexuality a sin?

Created by Travis Morgan on Oct 27, 2007

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#97039 Feb 16, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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Anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning making homosexuality a sexual defect.
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>Then any heterosexual who does it is also defective right?
When hetero's engage in anal sex, it is criminal stupidity.
When gays engage in anal sex, it is defective mating behavior and criminal stupidity.
Hey, this isn't rocket science, what are you confused about?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#97040 Feb 16, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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At its most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior. That is the scientific basis.
Ss couples are a failure of mating behavior. An evolutionary anomaly that has yet to have a purpose identified.
You claim that marriage and a ss couple are equal, yet can only do so by denying every aspect of comparison except by producing a piece of paper that affirms your denial.
I have a piece of paper signed by three psychiatrists that affirms that I am capable of living on my own.
You need THAT piece of paper to go with your other one...
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>My bad. I just caught my mistake.
You admit you needed THREE pieces of paper in order to prove you aren't a threat to yourself and society.
Most people I know don't need sworn statements by THREE doctors to prove they can function on their own.
Thanks for thew best laugh I've had so far today.
(BTW David Moore posted the exact same thing many times. I bet you also have court papers that prove you don't exist! LMAO)
Judging by your comprehension along with your confusion about marriage, you SERIOUSLY need a letter affirming your sanity.

As the voice of experience, I suggest you start by asking your family and friends if they think you need a letter. Please let us know what they think.

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#97041 Feb 16, 2014
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>Most normal people don't need to have that done. Guess you aren't as normal as you want everyone to thin k you are.
This is interesting and I sure would like to know what you were doing that made it necessary to have yourself declared sane.
And with all these new voting laws being passed you may want to carry those papers on you at all times, just in case.
That is true. However, since I work professionally with people in severe denial, I asked three professional friends to validate my sanity so I could answer people like you.

You claim a duplicate gendered relationship is the same as a diverse gendered couple. Do you understand the degree of denial inherent in that claim?

SMile.

Since: Aug 11

Scotts Valley, CA

#97042 Feb 16, 2014
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Prove it.
Unsolicited e-mail, often of a commercial nature, sent indiscriminately to multiple mailing lists, individuals, or newsgroups; junk e-mail.

This is an opinion forum. Links to political propaganda is spam.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#97043 Feb 16, 2014
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>Once again I caution you that the article you refer to does NOT say what you claim it does.
The entire article is about why people are sexually attracted to the people they pursue.
Sexual Strategies Theory: An Evolutionary Perspective on Human Mating. David M. Buss and David P. Schmitt.
http://www.psy.cmu.edu/~rakison/bussandschmit...
You even refuse to acknowledge that it's a THEORY and insist it is fact. I see now why it took 3 doctors to "prove your sanity".
BTW as someone who suffers from Bi-polar depression, I can say that in all the years I have been seeing a psychiatrist, my sanity was never an issue. Too bad you can't make the same claim.
Honey, read the first paragraph. The information it contains are not theory, they are facts.

“Religion kills”

Since: Jun 13

Down Under

#97044 Feb 16, 2014
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning making homosexuality a sexual defect.
<quoted text>
When hetero's engage in anal sex, it is criminal stupidity.
When gays engage in anal sex, it is defective mating behavior and criminal stupidity.
Hey, this isn't rocket science, what are you confused about?
Nothing criminal about it, considering that laws against buggery/sodomy have been abolished in most civilised countries. Get with the 21C.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#97045 Feb 16, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning making homosexuality a sexual defect.
<quoted text>
When hetero's engage in anal sex, it is criminal stupidity.
When gays engage in anal sex, it is defective mating behavior and criminal stupidity.
Hey, this isn't rocket science, what are you confused about?
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing criminal about it, considering that laws against buggery/sodomy have been abolished in most civilised countries. Get with the 21C.
The denial of clear physical abuse is hardly a 'civilized society'. Do you understand the denial in that claim?

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#97046 Feb 16, 2014
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
The denial of clear physical abuse is hardly a 'civilized society'. Do you understand the denial in that claim?
Do you understand that your opinions about "abuse" are irrelevant? Do you understand that?

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#97047 Feb 16, 2014
lightbeamrider wrote:
Little Black Book. Queer in the 21st Century.
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/issues/bla...
"The Little Black Book - Queer in the 21st Century." Handed out at Brookline High School during GLSEN event April 30, 2005.
Is this the future? This booklet was distributed to hundreds of kids (middle school age and up) at Brookline High School, Brookline, MA, on April 30, 2005. It was written by the Boston-based AIDS Action Committee, with help with the Massachusetts Department of Public Health and the Boston Public Health
An almost nine year-old story that still can't make it through the first sentence without credibility problems. The adult representative from Mass Resistance (oddly enough, the same person who would later strip to his underwear when he was confronted about taking pictures at a junior high school) claims to have found a copy of the "Little Black Book", mixed with other available literature brought by a number of groups to an event sponsored by the state education department on sex and sexuality for junior and senior high school students, who were there with parental permission. It was written for a more mature audience and apparently a few copies were brought along by mistake. Other than the constantly read copy picked up by the weirdo from Mass Resistance, it's unknown if anyone else got a copy, NO ONE ELSE complained about it.

There's a darn good reason that Mass Resistance is classified as an anti-gay hate group. It can't make a point without lying about most of it. Always happy to see someone educating themselves to complete blithering ignorance.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#97048 Feb 16, 2014
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>The question they want to avoid is "If God created everything then didn't He also create sinning?"
That was the view of the gnostics; that we are born corrupt and everything in God's creation is corrupt.
There is nothing called ABSOLUTE Sin, it becomes sin for the person depending upon the circumstances and situation.

Like Killing, if some one kills an innocent person, it is a sin. But killing during wars and killing a murderer is not sin.

So it is wrong to say that God created sin, while nothing happens in Universe except by God' permission, but it is the people who make wrong choice and try to blame it on God.

These Homosexuals, try to blame God for their perversion, while it was they who Chose this course.

“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#97049 Feb 16, 2014
KiMare wrote:
At its most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior. That is the scientific basis.
Oh, it’s the “scientific basis”, now? Where do you get that? Give me a citation.

Marriage isn’t even a scientific CONCEPT. Why would it have a scientific “basis”? It is not like electromagnetism, or fluid dynamics. Marriage is a social construct, it is whatever society makes it, and that is as far as science would recognize it. The law recognizes it as two people who have tied their lives together to the point that they are family.

Where is the scientific authority which outlines this “basis” of yours? In what document is it recorded? What body enforces it?

There are no rational answers to these questions. This claim of a “scientific basis” is nonsense.
KiMare wrote:
Ss couples are a failure of mating behavior.
That’s nice. However, no marriage requires “mating behavior”, so you’ll forgive me if I don’t feel bad about being a “failure” according to your personal standards. The authorities which provide me with marriage do not hold me to such standards.
KiMare wrote:
An evolutionary anomaly that has yet to have a purpose identified.
Better make people feel bad about it, then, and close them out of participating in social convention. That’s probably the wisest, most humane approach. And everyone knows that if a purpose hasn’t been identified yet, that it never will be. This is a certainty, right? Isn’t that how science works?

That was all sarcasm, by the way.
KiMare wrote:
You claim that marriage and a ss couple are equal, yet can only do so by denying every aspect of comparison except by producing a piece of paper that affirms your denial.
If you say so. To me, this sounds like so much frothing at the mouth. Are you bothered by that paper? Do you oppose it because of something that you think it takes from you?
KiMare wrote:
I have a piece of paper signed by three psychiatrists that affirms that I am capable of living on my own.
I can’t imagine why that’s relevant at all. I mean, good for you, it sounds like terrific progress and all, but it isn’t my concern in the least.
KiMare wrote:
You need THAT piece of paper to go with your other one...
No, that isn’t something that I “need”. Define “need”. Who is requiring it? What will happen if I don’t get it? I think I’ll be fine without it.
Toby

Portland, OR

#97050 Feb 16, 2014
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
At its most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior. That is the scientific basis.
Ss couples are a failure of mating behavior. An evolutionary anomaly that has yet to have a purpose identified.
You claim that marriage and a ss couple are equal, yet can only do so by denying every aspect of comparison except by producing a piece of paper that affirms your denial.
I have a piece of paper signed by three psychiatrists that affirms that I am capable of living on my own.
You need THAT piece of paper to go with your other one...
<quoted text>
Judging by your comprehension along with your confusion about marriage, you SERIOUSLY need a letter affirming your sanity.
As the voice of experience, I suggest you start by asking your family and friends if they think you need a letter. Please let us know what they think.
Smile.
Actually Buss or Schmitt never say that marriage is a (constraint) on evolutionary mating behavior but that its a part of evolutionary mating behavior. They also stated that long term committed mating " cannot be characterized by a single strategy", that is characterized by marriage, which by the way has a divorce rate of almost 50% in America.

Also as I have pointed out time and time again, if you reduce the value of marriage to be equated solely with reproduction and procreating, then every infertile heterosexual couple is a failure of mating behavior, every single woman who chooses not to have children is a failure of evolutionary mating behavior, but then according to your rather erroneous logic a lesbian who has a child through artificial insemination is then a success of evolutionary mating behavior. Polygamy should then be the standard measure of success in evolutionary mating behavior , that is, when applied with your (own) peculiar interpretation of evolutionary mating behavior.
Toby

Portland, OR

#97051 Feb 16, 2014
The Unholy Trinity (MUQ, KiMare and Mandingo)

MUQ the father should be elated that polygamy is the standard in measuring the success of evolutionary mating behavior.

Yet Kimare the son is angry at such revelations and in complete denial

While Mandingo the sock puppet spirit is off on his own confused quest of demagoguery and bigotry.
Toby

Portland, OR

#97052 Feb 16, 2014
The Unholy Trinity rated S for stupid

coming to a theatre near you!
Toby

Portland, OR

#97053 Feb 16, 2014
What's really ironic and comical is that a philandering mate poacher is the Father entity in the Unholy Trinity in this forum, but then again mate poaching is part of evolutionary mating behavior, and he might be proud of his mate poaching abilities .

GTG be back in several hours, discuss amongst yourselves.
Toby

Portland, OR

#97054 Feb 16, 2014
EdmondWA wrote:
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Oh, it’s the “scientific basis”, now? Where do you get that? Give me a citation.
Marriage isn’t even a scientific CONCEPT. Why would it have a scientific “basis”? It is not like electromagnetism, or fluid dynamics. Marriage is a social construct, it is whatever society makes it, and that is as far as science would recognize it. The law recognizes it as two people who have tied their lives together to the point that they are family.
Where is the scientific authority which outlines this “basis” of yours? In what document is it recorded? What body enforces it?
There are no rational answers to these questions. This claim of a “scientific basis” is nonsense.
<quoted text>
That’s nice. However, no marriage requires “mating behavior”, so you’ll forgive me if I don’t feel bad about being a “failure” according to your personal standards. The authorities which provide me with marriage do not hold me to such standards.
<quoted text>
Better make people feel bad about it, then, and close them out of participating in social convention. That’s probably the wisest, most humane approach. And everyone knows that if a purpose hasn’t been identified yet, that it never will be. This is a certainty, right? Isn’t that how science works?
That was all sarcasm, by the way.
<quoted text>
If you say so. To me, this sounds like so much frothing at the mouth. Are you bothered by that paper? Do you oppose it because of something that you think it takes from you?
<quoted text>
I can’t imagine why that’s relevant at all. I mean, good for you, it sounds like terrific progress and all, but it isn’t my concern in the least.
<quoted text>
No, that isn’t something that I “need”. Define “need”. Who is requiring it? What will happen if I don’t get it? I think I’ll be fine without it.
From that particular hypothesis he presented,(but then added his own interpretation), two of the many strategies of human evolutionary mating behaviors is extra-pair mating and mate poaching, so really infidelity and polygamy is two of the strategies, and it's all encapsulated in this theory exclusively under guidelines of procreation and reproduction.

If in fact heterosexual couples were obligated to swear an oath to procreate in their marriage as a prerequisite to receive a marriage certificate then I would (partially) agree with his twisted logic,(which by the way is not the hypothesis presented in evolutionary mating behavior).
Toby

Portland, OR

#97055 Feb 16, 2014
The truth is under his rigid myopic perspective of marriage as only validated by reproduction, then all childless marriages are failures of evolutionary mating behaviors, matter of fact anyone male or female, heterosexual or homosexual who is infertile is a born failure of evolutionary mating behavior. I just want to know how homosexual marriage will somehow negatively effect the long-term reproductive success of heterosexual marriages? Is sexual orientation somehow a popularity contest or exchangeable?

“Religion kills”

Since: Jun 13

Down Under

#97056 Feb 17, 2014
Dusty Mangina wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you understand that your opinions about "abuse" are irrelevant? Do you understand that?
If that thing doesn't, the rest of us sure do!

“Religion kills”

Since: Jun 13

Down Under

#97057 Feb 17, 2014
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>An almost nine year-old story that still can't make it through the first sentence without credibility problems. The adult representative from Mass Resistance (oddly enough, the same person who would later strip to his underwear when he was confronted about taking pictures at a junior high school) claims to have found a copy of the "Little Black Book", mixed with other available literature brought by a number of groups to an event sponsored by the state education department on sex and sexuality for junior and senior high school students, who were there with parental permission. It was written for a more mature audience and apparently a few copies were brought along by mistake. Other than the constantly read copy picked up by the weirdo from Mass Resistance, it's unknown if anyone else got a copy, NO ONE ELSE complained about it.
There's a darn good reason that Mass Resistance is classified as an anti-gay hate group. It can't make a point without lying about most of it. Always happy to see someone educating themselves to complete blithering ignorance.
Gday Rick. I knew that you would know the inside dirt on that mob. We could call them Mess Regurgitation.

I'm starting to know all these right-wing fundie American groups...Our lot of homegrown clowns are not quite so fanatical, but they're still out there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Chris...
http://www.acl.org.au/about/

They were ripped off by this mob:
http://australianchristianlobby.org/
Dimmesdale

Fargo, ND

#97058 Feb 17, 2014

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