Provide an example of gay men trying to make out that they are helpless female victims.If you are discussing homosexuals I believe that includes both genders. I also believe that feminine traits in a certain amount of homosexuals are innate and they are probably feminine from a very early age. Are you honestly saying that thousands of reason have been given? I haven't witnessed one valid premise yet let alone thousands, and you believe lesbians just reluctantly follow male homosexuals on social issues?<quoted text>
The reason I continually state we are talking about big butch grown men, is because gay men continually try to feminize themselves to make out they are like helpless female victims. They are not they are grown men,
Thousands of reasons have been given here, you just don't want to see those reasons.
The point is if homosexual men hadn't started pushing for marriages, I doubt lesbians would have done it.
Ever heard of Margaret Marshall, and she was heterosexual and appointed chief justice by a Republican. LOL