Is homosexuality a sin?

Created by Travis Morgan on Oct 27, 2007

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#93610 Oct 8, 2013
Toby wrote:
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You posted that "the issue isn't, who is broken, but rather, how are you dealing with it",then you went on to say you freely admit that you're broken", I was asking what do you mean by broken? You reply with "you tell me". You then say that the premise to my argument is that if everyone does something wrong that makes it right, that is not my argument at all.
You have to first establish the fact that something is really a sin, something is wrong, before you can demonstrate that my argument has a false premise, or as you put it " an idiotic argument", but where have you proven to any degree that fornication is wrong, or a sin, or oral sex or anal sex is wrong, or a sin? If you are relying on a religious cultural human construct such as sin to base your repudiation on then you haven't proven anything at all. Moral absolutism is no starting point to base any argument on, let alone a starting point to refute someones else's argument on.
If you want to discuss ethics(religion set aside) and whether it is ethical to fornicate,since I mentioned that just about every human fornicates, then let's hear what is ethically wrong with fornicating, since all fornicators are supposedly going to hell. My contention is that you are anyone else has never really proven that fornication is wrong, and when has it been proven that oral sex or anal sex is wrong, or unethical, maybe in your own mind perhaps.
I know you refer to all anal sex heterosexual or homosexual as (anal abuse) but what if you have a woman who enjoys it, who wants it, or a partner that request it, is it abuse in those circumstances? I also wonder what your stance is on oral sex, do you believe that all oral sex is oral abuse alsoI guess right? You see I don't believe that oral sex or anal sex is wrong to begin with, so if most adults are involved with those sexual activities that is certainly not saying that two wrongs make a right, or many wrongs make a right, the presupposition is that it is not ethically wrong in the first place.
Hundreds of years ago, Lord Acton noted this; "Power corrupts. Absolute power absolutely corrupts."

He noted something that any honest observer sees. The closer man comes to being god, the more they abuse that power. I call that brokenness. Religion calls it depravity.

I use simple points of reality to expose fallacy and denial.

I use anal sex as one of those points of reality. I have posted medical evidence noting the harm of anal sex, as if that were necessary. I have posted articles about the demeaning nature of anal sex BY A HOMOSEXUAL. Yet you deny the fact. Then you accuse me of being fascinated by it, deny that you did, and turn around and make the same accusation again IN THE SAME POST!

As to religion, I don't argue faith with faithless people.

You also accuse me of focusing on anal sex. That is a lie. I have noted a number of distinctions between ss couples and marriage, and other evidences that homosexuality is a sexual defect.

You ignore those posts to accuse me of anal fascination and religious motives. I would suggest that is evidence of YOUR brokenness.

The simplest morality is,'do no harm'. Fornication has many implications of harming others. While it represents the powerful evolutionary motivation of mating behavior, humans have elevated themselves above animals by the constraint of marriage to protect from those abuses. Not just Christianity, but every single culture known in human history. In fact, they estimate marriage existed up to 10 million years ago.

SS couples are a defective failure of mating behavior.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#93611 Oct 8, 2013
Toby wrote:
Also its ironic that fundamentalist take a radical stand in opposition to abortion yet they find hope in the fact that homosexuality is influence by “epi-marks",most of the reports that I have read on epi-marks say that it is doubtful there is any practical applications to eliminating homosexuality because it is not just one single factor. But as I have today experienced in this forum, in the homophobic wonderland world, they are ecstatic with the remote possibility that homosexuality could be eliminated, they even declared that "your kind" will be eliminated out of existence, assuming incorrectly that I am homosexual because I don't believe homosexuality is ethically wrong.
An overwhelming majority of woman who have abortions are not even considering if the embryo might turn out to be homosexual, it is a matter of inconvenience and sometimes even a health risk factor. How about we work at eliminating bigotry and homophobia and stop entertaining the idea no matter how far fetched on how to eliminate homosexuals. I am also not sure that homosexuality is anything that most people would want to prevent anyway, but the concept that there exist some religiously based ideal human standard that all humans should become is fascist in itself. By the way eliminating homosexuals won't eliminate oral and anal sex there are million of non homosexuals who have oral and anal sex. Maybe scientist could discover a gene that leads to oral and anal sex activity and eliminate it so all humans will only have intercourse, now that's a Jerry Falwell wet dream.
Most parents not only want their child, they want grandchildren. Homosexuality handicaps that future.

Ironically, if a means of aborting homosexual fetus's were discovered, it would be Christians who oppose abortion that would be the 'salvation' of homosexuals.

You have a lot to learn Toby, but your denial is making you stupid.
old school pro life

Justice, IL

#93612 Oct 8, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
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Homosexuality isn't a defect, like your third nipple, your useless vagina, and your schizophrenic alter-ego.
Homosexuality is a gift. Where would we be without:
http://www.ranker.com/list/famous-gay-men-lis...
Here we go with epi-markers again. You'd waste no time advocating the murder of unborn LGBT people, wouldn't you Greg? While you're at it, why not kill off all of the chimera's too?
Now this one is anti-abortion. He even stole the language.

You're ignoring that the government is mapping the brain. They've already mapped the genome and found no homosexual gene. But, if it's possible for entrepreneurs to identify you in the womb, you will experience first hand the massive push for abortion because nearly everyone would want to know.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#93613 Oct 8, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Most parents not only want their child, they want grandchildren. Homosexuality handicaps that future.
Ironically, if a means of aborting homosexual fetus's were discovered, it would be Christians who oppose abortion that would be the 'salvation' of homosexuals.
You have a lot to learn Toby, but your denial is making you stupid.
You contradict yourself, because fundamentalist Christians would be lining up to abort unborn LGBT fetuses in an effort to carry on the family genes.

Since: Aug 11

Scotts Valley, CA

#93614 Oct 8, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Most parents not only want their child, they want grandchildren. Homosexuality handicaps that future.
Ironically, if a means of aborting homosexual fetus's were discovered, it would be Christians who oppose abortion that would be the 'salvation' of homosexuals.
You have a lot to learn Toby, but your denial is making you stupid.
Homosexuals have no more choice in the matter than you did being born a hermaphrodite. What a hypocrite you are.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#93615 Oct 8, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
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You contradict yourself, because fundamentalist Christians would be lining up to abort unborn LGBT fetuses in an effort to carry on the family genes.
Christians don't murder babies.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#93616 Oct 8, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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Homosexuals have no more choice in the matter than you did being born a hermaphrodite. What a hypocrite you are.
I have never said they do have a choice. You are confused.

Since: Aug 11

Scotts Valley, CA

#93617 Oct 8, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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I have never said they do have a choice. You are confused.
Then why should they and their families be excluded from equal protection of the law as you advocate every day?
Carla Tortelli

Justice, IL

#93618 Oct 8, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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Then why should they and their families be excluded from equal protection of the law as you advocate every day?
Are we talking about a woman's right to abort a homosexual in the womb, because there is a sense of intolerance from you.

An entrepreneur who can hear the distant toe taps of a homosexual in the womb will become a billionaire.

Since: Aug 11

Scotts Valley, CA

#93619 Oct 8, 2013
Carla Tortelli wrote:
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Are we talking about a woman's right to abort a homosexual in the womb, because there is a sense of intolerance from you.
An entrepreneur who can hear the distant toe taps of a homosexual in the womb will become a billionaire.
Why should a woman do such a horrible thing?
Roe v Wade

Justice, IL

#93620 Oct 8, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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Why should a woman do such a horrible thing?
What exactly don't you understand about a woman's right to privacy?

If you must know, millions of women don't want their son to grow up to be an unlicensed proctologist and march up and down State Street in a giant penis suit.

Since: Aug 11

Scotts Valley, CA

#93621 Oct 8, 2013
Roe v Wade wrote:
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What exactly don't you understand about a woman's right to privacy?
If you must know, millions of women don't want their son to grow up to be an unlicensed proctologist and march up and down State Street in a giant penis suit.
Why not? Proctologists make a good living. Penis suits are very funny.
thehumanhighligh treel

Boston, MA

#93622 Oct 8, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Christians don't murder babies.
http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/40519-why...

Well. This is awkward.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#93623 Oct 9, 2013
thehumanhighlightreel wrote:
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http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/40519-why...
Well. This is awkward.
Not at all.

Did you read the article? It clearly addresses a faithful Christian position about abortion.

It also distinguishes those who attend Church on a regular basis, a fundamental sign of active faith.

If a Christian gets an abortion, they have violated their faith. Sinned.

“Electronic graffiti”

Since: Jun 13

Down Under

#93624 Oct 9, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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Why should a woman do such a horrible thing?
Ahhh, but plenty wouldn't. It's the latest tactic they're trying to use.
Frazier Thomas

Justice, IL

#93626 Oct 9, 2013
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
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Ahhh, but plenty wouldn't. It's the latest tactic they're trying to use.
If Mom and Pop were told that little Rosa would grow up hard, and whose only desire in life would be to become warden in a women's prison?

The same philosophy ushering in homosexual marriage is to blame. Hoised by your own petard.

You're goners, Rosa.

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#93627 Oct 9, 2013
Frazier Thomas wrote:
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If Mom and Pop were told that little Rosa would grow up hard, and whose only desire in life would be to become warden in a women's prison?
The same philosophy ushering in homosexual marriage is to blame. Hoised by your own petard.
You're goners, Rosa.
Well that made utterly no sense...

Since: Aug 11

Scotts Valley, CA

#93628 Oct 9, 2013
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
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Ahhh, but plenty wouldn't. It's the latest tactic they're trying to use.
Yea, it is just part of the slippery slope fallacy.

Since: Aug 11

Scotts Valley, CA

#93629 Oct 9, 2013
Frazier Thomas wrote:
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If Mom and Pop were told that little Rosa would grow up hard, and whose only desire in life would be to become warden in a women's prison?
The same philosophy ushering in homosexual marriage is to blame. Hoised by your own petard.
You're goners, Rosa.
What's wrong with a strong woman having a position of leadership misogynist pig?
thehumanhighligh treel

Boston, MA

#93630 Oct 9, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Not at all.
Did you read the article? It clearly addresses a faithful Christian position about abortion.
It also distinguishes those who attend Church on a regular basis, a fundamental sign of active faith.
If a Christian gets an abortion, they have violated their faith. Sinned.
I did, and I know. However, there are still Christians who have gotten abortions which is also clearly stated.

At the end of the day, there isn't anything wrong with an abortion either.

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