Is homosexuality a sin?

Is homosexuality a sin?

Created by Travis Morgan on Oct 27, 2007

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Bob

Seattle, WA

#92761 Sep 11, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
The Qur’an tells us that “Whatsoever is in the heavens and the earth glorifies Allah”(57:1).
In the Old Testament, we find that Yahweh will not share his glory with anyone.
Isaiah 42:8—“I am the LORD, that is My name; 
I will not give My glory to another.”(Cf. Isaiah 48:11—“My glory I will not give to another.”)
Yet Jesus claimed, not only that he would be glorified with the Father, but that he had glory with the Father before the world was created!
John 17:5—“Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.”
How can anyone see this as anything other than a claim to deity?
GOD made the universe. HE made us to live with him in eternity. He can do whatever HE wants. An evil homosexual abomination can not exist in heaven. Homosexuals go' straight to hell as soon as they die. They have chosen to burn for eternity with their father the devil.
Bob

Seattle, WA

#92762 Sep 11, 2013
YoungArabMan wrote:
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That translation is way off and the logical leaps you make from it are even worse. The Bible of today is totally corrupted, the original teachings of Jesus are in line with the teachings of Islam. The Holy Qur'an is the ONLY religious text that has been properly preserved by the will of God.
If so, then why is the corpse of Muhammed still in his tomb ?

Why did Muhammed kill so many people.

Islam was created by the catholic church in order to kill all the christians in the middle east.

Jesus never killed anyone. He is returning soon to take out the anti-christ and establish his kingdom. All occult activities will cease to exist.

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#92763 Sep 11, 2013
Bob wrote:
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GOD made the universe. HE made us to live with him in eternity. He can do whatever HE wants. An evil homosexual abomination can not exist in heaven. Homosexuals go' straight to hell as soon as they die. They have chosen to burn for eternity with their father the devil.
my post had nothing to do with homosexuality. Who are you responding to?

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#92764 Sep 11, 2013
Bob wrote:
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I Corinthians 6:9 (NIV)- Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
In other words, don't fool yourself.
I agree, notice the verse says homosexual offenders indicating that there are some homosexuals that do offend.

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#92765 Sep 11, 2013
YoungArabMan wrote:
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That translation is way off and the logical leaps you make from it are even worse. The Bible of today is totally corrupted, the original teachings of Jesus are in line with the teachings of Islam. The Holy Qur'an is the ONLY religious text that has been properly preserved by the will of God.
Are you saying the original teachings of Jesus was more like MO? A raping kidnapping child sexing killer? If Mo had it right, then the true follower of Islam was Bin Laden.

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#92766 Sep 11, 2013
YoungArabMan wrote:
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That translation is way off and the logical leaps you make from it are even worse. The Bible of today is totally corrupted, the original teachings of Jesus are in line with the teachings of Islam. The Holy Qur'an is the ONLY religious text that has been properly preserved by the will of God.
Qur’an 5:47—“Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel.”

So is the Quran wrong?

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#92767 Sep 11, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>Ans.
A. Jesus and Homosexuality:
Please give me any quotation from Jesus "justifying" Homosexuality. Whatever is recorded in Gospels referring to Sodom and Gomorrah is always in condemning them and not praising them.
I asked you for a quotation from Jesus specifically condemning a homosexual? And your answer is asking me for a statement of Jesus justifying homosexuality. Sounds like you are a coward in your arguments. Sodom and Gomorrah was not about homosexuality. It was about the sick sexual stuff going on by straight and gay people and was mainly about idol worship.

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#92768 Sep 11, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.

B. Paul as "Apostle of Jesus":
It was Paul's "Own claim" that he met "Ghost of Jesus" on road to Damascus… That is why I used the phrase "Self claimed 13th Apostle of Jesus".
Every thing which Christians of today believe and doing is according to what St. Paul said and not what Jesus said or did.
But yet you believe Mo? Who did he see? Besides his 9 year old wife?
Toby

Portland, OR

#92769 Sep 11, 2013
Fundamentalist adherents of Islam and Christendom love to discuss who is going to hell and who is not, it's one of their favorite pastimes,they say to each other "let us relax and discuss the occupants of eternal damnation while we accentuate our unique relationship with Sky-God".

What's the contrast between a radical Muslim and a fundamentalist Christian?

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#92770 Sep 11, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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B1: Jesus and Wars:
How could Jesus start a war with "only" Twelve Disciples who "fled and left their Lord and Master in enemy's hands"?
Jesus did what he could and left the job for "Spirit of Truth" who shall come after him and "Guide people into All Truth".
Our prophet was what Jesus had foretold his followers about.
And fighting "just wars, in the cause of God" is Sin, because Abraham, Moses, Joshua, David and so many prophets before Jesus have taken parts in wars.
In other words Jesus was a war monger but couldn't convince his prophets to pick up weapons and fight? No Mo was never never mentioned by Jesus ever. People didn't wait for a warrior and rapist to save them, they were already saved with Jesus.

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#92771 Sep 11, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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C. Our Prophet "Most Important" in Islam?
Muslims are asked to respect each and every prophet, but they should follow the prophet whose mission is "Current"
Do you also not do the same about your "Current" Presidents and "Current" Senate and Assemblies? You "respect and honor" all past Presidents and Parliament and Assemblies but follow the one which is "Current".
And when we follow our prophet, we do what Jesus said himself, It was Jesus who said "he will guide you into all truth".
D. Jesus "stripped" of his title and his "Individuality"?
This is another misconception. Does Quran say that he was not born from Virgin Mary? Does Quran reject any of his miracles?
If Quran says Jesus was an "ordinary prophet", it says the same thing about our prophet also!!
There is no "Greater Honor" for any Human being than to become an "Ordinary Prophet of God".
I don't follow the teachings of any President or Senator or hold them to a higher standing then the garbage man. Yes the Quran rejects that he died on the cross and lived again.

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#92772 Sep 11, 2013
MUQ wrote:
F. Quran asks Christians to Judge by Bible:
This is Quranic advice for "Co-existence and tolerant", that Jews and Christians and people of other faiths, should "at least" follow their scriptures and leave the judgment of their disputes to God.
This is the best approach and very reasonable, disputes and discussions would only increase enmity, and never bridge the gap.
G. Bible supports the "traditional view" of Jesus:
You are not being honest here. OT books do not support any "Traditional View" of Jesus and Jews "as a whole" reject Jesus and his mission.
NT books and especially St. Paul is the Chief Promoter of what Christians Regard as their Traditional View. This was not during the life time of Jesus.
H. Corruption of Bible:
Quran has a very "realistic approach" about it.
a. First of all , it NEVER uses the word "Bible" anywhere, which is a term concocted by Christians very late.
b. It confirms about "Revelation" given to Earlier prophets.
It confirms Torah which was revelation given to prophet Moses.
It confirms ZABUR (Psalms) which was given to Prophet David
In Confirms INJEEL which was revelation given to Prophet Jesus.
And it confirms other revelations sent to other prophets in general.
c. At "No Place" Quran says that these existing books (66 or 73) are the same revelation, and at the same time not deny that Revelation of Prophets are not present into it.
d. And Quran also says that "people of book" (Jews and Christians) write books from their own hands and then say "It is form God" (Ch. 2, Verse 79)
And at many places, it says that these people distort the message while reciting, changing some words from their original locations, to give an erroneous meaning (Ch3. V 78)
e. Seeing all of that, the "most balanced view about Bible" from Islamic point of view is:
1. These books, though originally correct have suffered both in contents and interpretations during so many centuries.
2. The corruptions and omissions and removal of texts and changing pronunciations has been both intentional as well as unintentional.
3. But these Books do contain word of God and revelations into them, but no one is sure and certain about any particular portion.
4. The FACT that these books have suffered during copying and transmission is confirmed when we see mistakes, contradictions and discrepancies in them. Obviously these are not from God.
That is why we Muslims:
1. Confirm that part of Bible, which is confirmed by Quran.
2. We reject the part which is specifically rejected by Quran.
3. We keep Silent on parts where Quran is silent.
I can give examples of all three cases, if you are interested in it.
And we do not do this because we are "Biased and tilted" in favour of Quran, but only because Quran is Word of God and Preserved in its original condition in its original tongue.
I hope I have covered most of salient parts of your post.
Allah Knows Best.
The Quran is just a book like the Bible. I see you nuts going crazy over someone burning or destroying the book, I say buy a new one. The quran was not personally given to Mo from the sky ghost. Someone wrote it, someone published it. I prefer to use the quran as waste paper.
Toby

Portland, OR

#92773 Sep 11, 2013
We can say that the Alawites don't bomb Christian villages like the fundamentalist Nusra Front does, but then again the gassing of woman and chiuldren is just a heinous. Is it true that the Alawite celebrate Christmas too and is that from a Santa perspective or the birth of Jesus perspective?

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#92774 Sep 11, 2013
Toby wrote:
Fundamentalist adherents of Islam and Christendom love to discuss who is going to hell and who is not, it's one of their favorite pastimes,they say to each other "let us relax and discuss the occupants of eternal damnation while we accentuate our unique relationship with Sky-God".
What's the contrast between a radical Muslim and a fundamentalist Christian?
Hey idiot, what would you rather do? send troops to another country when these Muslims read what Allah is commanding them to do? Isn't it better to reason with them, show them how misguided they are?
Toby

Portland, OR

#92775 Sep 11, 2013
The gassing of women and * children
Toby

Portland, OR

#92776 Sep 11, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Hey idiot, what would you rather do? send troops to another country when these Muslims read what Allah is commanding them to do? Isn't it better to reason with them, show them how misguided they are?
Now now, calm down , jeebus wouldn't want you to be a nasty little representative of his Christendom love.
Toby

Portland, OR

#92777 Sep 11, 2013
Anyway I thought (jeebus) taught his groveling followers to turn the cheek and pray for those who persecute people? But real Christendom in practice is quite different than what Jeebus spoke of isn't it?
Toby

Portland, OR

#92778 Sep 11, 2013
I need to clarify something for you. Jeebus = Jesus
Toby

Portland, OR

#92779 Sep 11, 2013
Muhhamad = muhieathamidid - the holy desert pirate rat, nothing in the world says Muhammad pronounced (Mu-I-eat-ham-I -did) like a good beheading and stoning

Jesus= Jeebus- Bud-light,the new and improved God, same old great God but without all the sociopathic carnage.
doug

Tsumeb, Namibia

#92780 Sep 11, 2013
hot_gamama wrote:
read leviticus...i do remember reading in genesis that GOD CREATED adam and Eve, not Adam and STEVE
i agree because sodomy is ugly

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