Is homosexuality a sin?

Is homosexuality a sin?

Created by Travis Morgan on Oct 27, 2007

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“True Blue”

Since: Jun 13

New Holland

#92114 Aug 28, 2013
Toby wrote:
When using the word sin, we should first accentuate that sin is a cultural and social construct based on religious tenets. Also the belief that homosexuality is a sin certainly goes much further that just fundamentalist Christianity in america. Did you know that in Thomas Jeffersons 1778 " A Bill for Proportioning Crimes and Punishments", Jefferson recommended that woman who commit sodomy, or polygamy have their nose pierced through the cartilage and that the hole be at least one half inch diameter and greater?
The only difference with Islam (and it is a huge difference) is that radical extremist Muslims are still living figuratively in the stone age, secular society has forced Christianity to adapt for the most part.
Moral standards change, that's all I can say about Jefferson.

For example, some people may find it on the nose that he had a sexual relationship with his slave Sally Hemings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Hemings
http://www.claremont.org/publications/crb/id....
http://www.monticello.org/site/plantation-and...
Toby

Portland, OR

#92115 Aug 29, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Here is what you wrote: "The only difference is that the fundamentalist Christians live in such a secular society they aren't allowed to murder homosexuals, if provided the opportunity I believe they would.
Just look what happened to Islan Nettles for being transgendered, and that beating and murder happened in front of a police precinct. "
You were speaking about Christians, you said Christians would murder homosexuals if they were allowed, then you write "look what happened...." Why did you write that about Islan Nettles if it wasn't related? You are hard to follow, all over the place. Settle down.
I posted "Fundamentalist Christians" , "the only difference is that the "fundamentalist Christians", if provided the opportunity", you can't see the word "fundamentalist" for some selective reason not sure why.
Toby

Portland, OR

#92116 Aug 29, 2013
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
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I totally agree. The rabid Christian fundamentalists would enjoy murdering gays, if they could get away with it. Just like they did in the Dark Ages.
The only reason I can think of for homophobia which isn't religious, is the fear straight men have of an advance. As if they can't say no.
Yes I agree, there is also something called reaction formation in psychology, it theorizes that people will resist there own unacceptable impulses and unacceptable emotions by exaggerating opposite tendencies. For instance they will overcompensate their own homosexual impulses or the fear of possibly having homosexual tendencies themselves, by acting extremely machismo or by displaying extreme opposition to homosexuality. It's like the person who protest against pornography, and is always ranting about the evils of pornography, yet views porno at home. A good example of reaction formation is Jimmy Swaggart who preached against immorality then rode around picking up prostitutes himself.
Toby

Portland, OR

#92117 Aug 29, 2013
Or how about Newt Gingrich who was again and again ranting on about the sanctity of heterosexual marriage , yet he himself ask his afflicted wife if they could have an opened marriage? Matter of fact Newt Gingrich gave his wife an ultimatum , either she agree to an open marriage or he was getting a divorce.

Perhaps Gingrich exaggerated the sanctity of marriage because he himself had been unfaithful in his own marriage, not only unfaithful but had even demanded an open marriage when his extramarital affair was discovered, so he then attempts to overcompensate by emphasizing the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman.

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#92118 Aug 29, 2013
Toby wrote:
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I posted "Fundamentalist Christians" , "the only difference is that the "fundamentalist Christians", if provided the opportunity", you can't see the word "fundamentalist" for some selective reason not sure why.
Please give one example where a fundamentalists murdered gays.

Their adherence to historic cross cultural and cross religious morality makes them murderers?

If I understand their theology, and I do, they believe God will judge the immoral. A far cry from murder.

However, the issue at hand isn't the fear of murder of gays by fundies, it is the abuse of inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning sexual behavior that is not just being excused, but promoted!

It seems to me that the fundie warning is legit. Especially since science agrees with them.

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#92119 Aug 29, 2013
Islam thrives on ignorance.

Qatar, with the highest GDPS scored lower than Albania in reading, science and maths in the OECD's PISA study in 2009.

Girls in Islamic countries outperform boys by huge margins.

The Economist
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#92120 Aug 29, 2013
According to region yes, but not for those who live in the real world.

Since: Aug 13

Torquay, UK

#92121 Aug 29, 2013
Say what wrote:
Yes it is a sin. God made Adam and Eve..not Adam and Steve.
Hmm, Adam & Steve, sounds great to me! Please join the 21st c. you cannot seriously believe in Adam & Eve, can you?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#92122 Aug 29, 2013
MykissleavesyouBreathless wrote:
According to region yes, but not for those who live in the real world.
In the real world, anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning.

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#92123 Aug 29, 2013
im not sure about anything in life but this .. Im not into anything but woman. men and woman where ment to be together to have kids etc, ff or mm is to each there own,, some say its sick,,

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#92124 Aug 29, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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In the real world, anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning.
Anal sex again?

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#92125 Aug 29, 2013
Greetings! Long time no see. I just wanted to comment on how amusing I find it that several of the other threads I've chatted on with many of you seemed to die after DOMA was shot down. Oh and that I'm now legally married to my beautiful and amazing same sex partner. GOD BLESS the state of Iowa! Des Moines was so full of wonderfully friendly and supportive people. I may have to move there one day.

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#92126 Aug 29, 2013
Say what wrote:
Yes it is a sin. God made Adam and Eve..not Adam and Steve.
Then please do tell.... who made Steve???

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#92127 Aug 29, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Please give one example where a fundamentalists murdered gays.
Their adherence to historic cross cultural and cross religious morality makes them murderers?
If I understand their theology, and I do, they believe God will judge the immoral. A far cry from murder.
However, the issue at hand isn't the fear of murder of gays by fundies, it is the abuse of inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning sexual behavior that is not just being excused, but promoted!
It seems to me that the fundie warning is legit. Especially since science agrees with them.
well said. Most all Christians in this country are very very tolerant.

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#92128 Aug 29, 2013
RatherBeInMissouri wrote:
Greetings! Long time no see. I just wanted to comment on how amusing I find it that several of the other threads I've chatted on with many of you seemed to die after DOMA was shot down. Oh and that I'm now legally married to my beautiful and amazing same sex partner. GOD BLESS the state of Iowa! Des Moines was so full of wonderfully friendly and supportive people. I may have to move there one day.
Wow, that's amazing.

But from what I can tell , SS couples are only ever a mutually sterile duplicate gendered half of marriage.

Did you or your partner grow a penis with the decision?

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#92129 Aug 29, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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In the real world, anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning.
You should talk to your doctor about that.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#92130 Aug 29, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Wow, that's amazing.
But from what I can tell , SS couples are only ever a mutually sterile duplicate gendered half of marriage.
Did you or your partner grow a penis with the decision?
unlike your duplicitous marriage, ours are legal, valid, and real.

your marriage, however, is a total sham.
Toby

Portland, OR

#92131 Aug 29, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Please give one example where a fundamentalists murdered gays.
Their adherence to historic cross cultural and cross religious morality makes them murderers?
If I understand their theology, and I do, they believe God will judge the immoral. A far cry from murder.
However, the issue at hand isn't the fear of murder of gays by fundies, it is the abuse of inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning sexual behavior that is not just being excused, but promoted!
It seems to me that the fundie warning is legit. Especially since science agrees with them.
You don't pay too much attention do you? I posted that if Fundamentalist Christians could they would kill homosexuals but that a secular society is what prevents them from doing so. Your reference to historic cross cultural morality is nothing but gibberish meaningless drivel , if you mean that homophobia and bigotry is cross cultural then you're correct. By the way I hate top point to you that millions of heterosexuals have oral and anal , do you propose that we bring back sodomy laws?
Toby

Portland, OR

#92132 Aug 29, 2013
* I hate to point out (to) you that millions of heterosexuals have oral and anal sex , do you propose that we bring back sodomy laws?
Toby

Portland, OR

#92134 Aug 29, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Wow, that's amazing.
But from what I can tell , SS couples are only ever a mutually sterile duplicate gendered half of marriage.
Did you or your partner grow a penis with the decision?
About seven million women in America are infertile and can't have children, are you saying their marriages are not genuine? heterosexual couples who can't have children can adopt children , the same applies to same sex marriages. Some same sex marriages will chose to adopt some won't , the same with heterosexual couples who can't have children of their own biologically.

The premise of your argument is flawed being that a marriage is not defined by whether a couple can reproduce biologically, if that was so then millions of heterosexual married couples who are infertile would not then be considered legitimate. So do you consider heterosexual couples who are infertile to be mutually sterile duplicates of what you deem ( real marriage)?

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