Is homosexuality a sin?

Created by Travis Morgan on Oct 27, 2007

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Parson Browne

Georgetown, OH

#88820 May 12, 2013
God's word says homosexuality certainly is a sin:

1Cor 6:9  What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit Godís kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men,

1 Tim 1:10 fornicators, men who lie with males, kidnappers, liars, false swearers, and whatever other thing is in opposition to the healthful teaching

ROMANS 1:26,27 That is why God gave them up to disgraceful sexual appetites, for both their females changed the natural use of themselves into one contrary to nature; 27 and likewise even the males left the natural use of the female and became violently inflamed in their lust toward one another, males with males, working what is obscene and receiving in themselves the full recompense, which was due for their error.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#88821 May 12, 2013
Read the "Apology from Rick", do I have to say anything more?

Homosexuality is a sin from whatever angle you look at it. It means end of human race.

If it is such a good thing, why not make it compulsory?
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#88822 May 12, 2013
Boooots wrote:

01. It is irrelevant that homosexuality has been considered wrong, or discriminated against, by humans in general, which is likely the case,..

02. It is irrelevant what religions have believed and preached about homosexuality,..

03. Yes, some diseases are spread more easily through some sexual activities of gay people ..


04. We now know that AIDS has killed a large number of young adults in some countries in Africa who are not gay,..

05. Because most of the western societies, and even China, now do not have a birth rate high enough ..

06. Homosexuals are not going to depopulate the world,
Ans.

Let us have a look at your "Pro-Homo" arguments. I comment on salient points of your arguments:

1. It is irrelevant that Homosexuality is condemned by almost every religion:

2. Some religions of humans demonized Lepers, Mentally challenged, slaves etc.

3. Yes Homos are "prone" to some disease, but others people also get it.

4. World population is so much that Homos would not cause any significant dent into it.

5. Homosexuality would "never" overtake Normal human people?

I do not know, if these are apologies or arguments to treat Homosexual and Homo marriage as "Normal"?

But I will post short replies to these points, to counter your arguments:

1. It is irrelevant that Homosexuality is condemned by almost every religion:

You forget that Topic of this thread is "Is Homosexuality a Sin"?

How we define Sin? It is basically a religious term, used for some one willfully violating any religious decree from God.

So how can you say it is "irrelevant" if most religions are against it?

So on the face of it, Homosexuality is a Sin in every religion. It is very much relevant to people who follow religions and they are More in Numbers than Homos or Athiests.

Then from social angel and from medical angle and from human race survival angle, homosexuals always are in negative bracket.

So it is a "sin" from every angle.

2. Some religions of humans demonized Lepers, Mentally challenged, slaves etc.

Equating Homosexuals with these groups is like comparing apples against oranges.

Even now we have separate hospitals and wings for Lepers, and Mentally deranged people. They are kept segregated from people. You want Homos to be treated the same way?

Slavery is out , but slaves are not!!

3. Yes Homos are "prone" to some disease, but others people also get it.

When homos are in "High Risk" category of diseases like AIDS, why should be "encourage" and treat them like "equals"?

Why all this anti Smoking and Anti Drug compaign is all about?

Why donít you allow people to use and deal in narcotic drugs? It does not harm every one does it?

4. World population is so much that Homos would not cause any significant dent into it.

This is another spurious argument. When you talk about an issue, you should talk at the basics.

The way this compaign is being handled and the way it is being glamorized, it is only matter of time before "Homos" would become majority.

Does not number of children born out of "wedlock" was a "rarity" a few decades back, now more than half of new born children in USA and Europe are born out of wedlock.

The same could happen to Homos.

5. Homosexuality would "never" overtake Normal human people?

This is same futile argument.

The question is, does it has any advantage from any angle that we should consider them as "Normal" and gave homo marriage same status as Normal marriage.

Since when sexual perverts and non Perverts are considered same and equals?

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#88823 May 12, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Read the "Apology from Rick", do I have to say anything more?
The idea was for you to read it, or to find an adult who would read it to you. Didn't think of that, now did you buttercup? Why am I not surprised in the slightest by this? What does surprise me is that you have mistaken my schooling of a seriously misinformed tool, you by the way, for an apology. Sad. Need you say more? Well, I already know you can't tread water in an intellectual, fact based discussion and you're in over your head even in the shallow end of the pool. My suggestion, keep your fingers off your keyboard, but stick around, you've got the chance to actually learn something.
MUQ wrote:
Homosexuality is a sin from whatever angle you look at it.
So you pray Sweetie, for your sake I hope Allah has a sense of humor.
MUQ wrote:
It means end of human race.
Proving once again that heterosexuality isn't just a sexual orientation, it's also a serious learning disorder. How else can you possibly explain the notion that all heterosexuals are always just one poof away from complete, full on, flaming, card carrying, queer as folk? Can you people actually forget you are heterosexual? How in the heck does that happen?
MUQ wrote:
If it is such a good thing, why not make it compulsory?
Because I wouldn't wish you on someone of whatever your opposite sex is that I don't like, why would I want to inflict you on someone of your own sex? Some folk we pray to be heterosexual, you would be one of them. With apologies to whatever your opposite sex is, but your same sex is more than thankful that you aren't their problem.

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MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#88824 May 12, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>The idea was for you to read it, or to find an adult who would read it to you. Didn't think of that, now did you buttercup? Why am I not surprised in the slightest by this? What does surprise me is that you have mistaken my schooling of a seriously misinformed tool, you by the way, for an apology. Sad. Need you say more? Well, I already know you can't tread water in an intellectual, fact based discussion and you're in over your head even in the shallow end of the pool. My suggestion, keep your fingers off your keyboard, but stick around, you've got the chance to actually learn something.
<quoted text>So you pray Sweetie, for your sake I hope Allah has a sense of humor. <quoted text>Proving once again that heterosexuality isn't just a sexual orientation, it's also a serious learning disorder. How else can you possibly explain the notion that all heterosexuals are always just one poof away from complete, full on, flaming, card carrying, queer as folk? Can you people actually forget you are heterosexual? How in the heck does that happen?
<quoted text>Because I wouldn't wish you on someone of whatever your opposite sex is that I don't like, why would I want to inflict you on someone of your own sex? Some folk we pray to be heterosexual, you would be one of them. With apologies to whatever your opposite sex is, but your same sex is more than thankful that you aren't their problem.
Whatever you have said is covered in my replies to Booots.

Homosexuality will always remain a sin as it has remained since the perversion was initiated by the people of Lot.

It is not "natural" as you would like to throw down our throats. With the same logic, every sexual perversion could be justified as "normal" or "natural".

Free choice logic also does not hold water, because then you will have to justify the "narcotic drugs also and smoking also. Why so much emphasis on Anti Smoking and all that compaign against it?

It is a religious sin.

It is a social sin.

It is a medical sin.

It is sin against human race survival.

How can you say that it is "as normal" as normal and these "couples" have same rights an 'duties" as "Normal couple"?

It is like you are supporting some one who is striking at the very root of human civlization.

PS:

What are the numbers of Homos in the world does not count, it is the question of principle.

When they become in majority, then would you be able to control them?

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#88825 May 12, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Whatever you have said is covered in my replies to Booots.
So you say, but I am not Boooots.
MUQ wrote:
Homosexuality will always remain a sin as it has remained since the perversion was initiated by the people of Lot.[/QUOYE]I didn't realize that I was conversing with Allah, after all, from my understanding of Islam, such a judgment would be His call and not that of His Muslims. If that is what you want to pray for, you go right ahead, but just because that is what you are praying for doesn't mean that Allah has said yes.
[QUOTE who="MUQ"]It is not "natural" as you would like to throw down our throats. With the same logic, every sexual perversion could be justified as "normal" or "natural".
You know less about nature than you do your self-professed faith.
MUQ wrote:
Free choice logic...
Hon, the only one of us trying to rationalize their perversion would be you. You can mislead yourself all you want, but you shouldn't be such an ass when we don't bother to follow.

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Michael

Dublin, CA

#88826 May 12, 2013
Chewy wrote:
Oh, please. You bible-thumpers ... I am a heterosexual.
Read, I'm a gay, I dont believe in god, i'm going to hell, and oh yeah, I dont know the bible enough to answer the question of the original poster.
To answer the original poster's question, yes it is a sin, no you wont be shunted by a church except if you continue to practice your homo ways & end up in hell. Dont crucify me!, i didnt write the bible. It was written for a reason, so shove your excuses up your own asses if you don't agree with the bible!
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#88829 May 13, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>So you say, but I am not Boooots.
<quoted text>You know less about nature than you do your self-professed faith.
<quoted text> Hon, the only one of us trying to rationalize their perversion would be you. You can mislead yourself all you want, but you shouldn't be such an ass when we don't bother to follow.
Stooping to name calling is the thing you people do best. And I can never compete you on these.

But talking logic, every one can see that homosexuality is a sin from whatever angle you look at it.

To call it "natural" and "logical" and "OK if done by consenting adults" is all pulling wool over people's eyes.

It was a nice try though to hide sexual perversion under the hood of "Consenting adults"!!

“lovin whole wheat flakes”

Since: Apr 12

The Big Apple

#88830 May 13, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Really? Let's see if you can prove it, pudding. I'll bet you can't.
Oh poor baby!
Sweetie and Sugar and Cupcake Moon Pie Twinkie SweetTarts Red Vines!
Sugarcone hotfudge drooler!

Your whines are always sooooo sad.
You lead such a pitiful life, and you wallow in that self-pity.
Tsk tsk. What a waste of food and water. And some children in Sudan die every day of hunger and thirst.
If only we could ship your ration there.

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Buttercup HunDearie Sugar

Lima, Peru

#88832 May 13, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>
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Buttercup, Hun, Dearie, Sugar, Shitupyournose,
I saw your picture in the paper today

http://tinyurl.com/RickInKansas

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#88837 May 13, 2013
Adam wrote:
How foolish they are the homosexuals how foolish they are.
How obsessed with homosexuals you are, how obsessed you are.

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Mind your manners

#88840 May 13, 2013
The ONLY reason "Rosa Winkel" "of Australia" comes here is to try to be a bully.

Never cuts it. Nope. Nobody ever feels bullied. They find "her" tiresome and boring. Mostly empty posts.

So why doesn't "she" just go outside into the real world and try to bully someone there?
Say the things there she only weakly dares to say here?

Because "she" knows everyone in real life, all the time, on any topic, finds "her" tiresome and boring. "She" can't even give away double-bag bjs.

Amen!

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#88844 May 13, 2013
Rosa Winkel wrote:
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Just Think, you are obsessed with Adam.
You are always begging to give him a bj.
But he rejects you.
Get over it.
Just as in real life, nobody wants you to get near them.
Try showering.
Oh my...you're not under the impression that you matter, are you?

How awkward for you.

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#88845 May 13, 2013
Adam wrote:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =EMo-Xh6dDGYXX
This is for you dickhead.
Stop fantasizing about dick, Adam...

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Abbott

Phoenix, AZ

#88848 May 13, 2013
No, Who's on first.
Chloe

Saint Louis, MO

#88852 May 13, 2013
Adam wrote:
Godīs curse be on homosexuals.
God loves homosexuals, otherwise he wouldn't have made them. Just like God loves haters like you.

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#88855 May 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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You forget that Topic of this thread is "Is Homosexuality a Sin"?
How we define Sin? It is basically a religious term, used for some one willfully violating any religious decree from God.
So how can you say it is "irrelevant" if most religions are against it?
It is irrelevant to me, and it is irrelevant to all the countries where persecution of gays is prohibited, and if people feel they still are justified in persecuting gays, because they "believe" that their religion teaches it is a sin and therefore gays are to be condemned, then they will feel the wrath of the law coming down on them (in this life). We cannot make human laws based on the various religious bigotries of the world. Not if we live in a sane society.
So on the face of it, Homosexuality is a Sin in every religion. It is very much relevant to people who follow religions and they are More in Numbers than Homos or Athiests.
Then from social angel and from medical angle and from human race survival angle, homosexuals always are in negative bracket.
So it is a "sin" from every angle.
Human rights of all humans are not based on who has a majority.
2.
Equating Homosexuals with these groups is like comparing apples against oranges.
Even now we have separate hospitals and wings for Lepers, and Mentally deranged people. They are kept segregated from people. You want Homos to be treated the same way?
Slavery is out , but slaves are not!!
One does not catch homosexuality by being around or in the same society as gays. Some diseases can be contracted, and people with those diseases, if they are highly contagious, must be kept safely apart from the general public, to prevent everyone from becoming infected. One does not become infected by homosexuality, and if one fears a disease that some homosexual is carrying, then, like all other diseases, refrain from activities which might make one become infected. That is common sense, not requiring a people be demonized.
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When homos are in "High Risk" category of diseases like AIDS, why should be "encourage" and treat them like "equals"?
Why all this anti Smoking and Anti Drug compaign is all about?
Why donít you allow people to use and deal in narcotic drugs? It does not harm every one does it?
How is that relevant to homosexuality being a sin, or gays should be demonized? We have only known about AIDS since the late 1980s as an identified disease, and there have been a huge number of diseases throughout history that have been spread by heterosexual sex. We have not made heterosexual sex wrong, nor demonized heterosexuals, because they pose a danger. Obviously for all orientations, if one is a carrier and carelessly has sex with a large number of people then one is a danger regardless of what orientation. We don't condemn a whole group because some of a group can make you sick.

It still has no relationship to smoking or other drug usage.
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This is another spurious argument. When you talk about an issue, you should talk at the basics.
The way this compaign is being handled and the way it is being glamorized, it is only matter of time before "Homos" would become majority.
Does not number of children born out of "wedlock" was a "rarity" a few decades back, now more than half of new born children in USA and Europe are born out of wedlock.
The same could happen to Homos.
Think that one through a bit, because I don't want to make you feel silly by responding. If you don't see how that is silly, then you have a very low education in science especially as it relates to biology. There is nothing wrong with not having a good education, but when one stands on statements that do not make sense, if one has a good education, then it is best not to make such statements.

I find the rest of that post offensive, and would be ashamed to admit that I post to someone who makes such comments.

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Chloe

Saint Louis, MO

#88856 May 13, 2013
Pope Benadryl wrote:
Chloe, you are so right.
God made everyone, all the adulterers and mass murderers and child molesters and people who rob the poor box.
And so He must love them and all and sin just doesn't exist.
You are not comparing apples to apples. Homosexuals aren't doing anything to hurt other people.

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Chloe

Saint Louis, MO

#88857 May 13, 2013
Adam wrote:
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Wrong.
You're probably right...he probably doesn't love haters.

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#88858 May 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Read the "Apology from Rick", do I have to say anything more?
Homosexuality is a sin from whatever angle you look at it. It means end of human race.
If it is such a good thing, why not make it compulsory?
Do you have any concept at all of what homosexuality is?

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