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Dusty Mangina wrote:
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You're projecting your personal views about homosexuality onto children.
I'm a career educator and I can assure you that kids are completely comfortable with the idea of homosexual couples. They have to be taught intolerance; it's not innate
You can lie to yourself all you want. Kids from a nuclear family know the have a mum and a dad. They get used to that. If all of a sudden they saw a woman and a woman or man and man and they are old enough to ask they will. You want to create a world where kids think this is "as natural" but it is not; even the act itself is unnatural.

Two men together is not natural, they cannot create a baby, a baby with two dads is not natural. A baby with two mums is not natural either. This is all about what the two weirdos want.

Kids can be taught racism and bigotry, but they do not see two women kissing after seeing their mum and dad that way and instinctively think t is normal. You are only talking about the world you want to create.

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LuLu Ford wrote:
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You use the Bible to defend your prejudice don't you? It is a fact that the Bible makes no argument against anyone's sexual orientation.
BahWaaaaaaa.... projecting. Your rant is a tantrum.
Nature is irrelevant as always.
GIANT FAIL.
REFUTED AGAIN.
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Like many with little or no intellect. You are one of these people who thinks just posting an opposing opinion is refuting someone. You are a moron. If the bible was against women having sex with men it would say the same thing it says about homosexuality.

It would talk about putting them to death, surprise surprise the bible does not. It even says if a man lies with a man as they would with a human they should be put to death.

The meaning here unequivocal. Did you really think homosexuality is about just lusting after the same sex you idiot? No it is not you ridiculous moron.
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Like many with little or no intellect. You are one of these people who thinks just posting an opposing opinion is refuting someone. You are a moron. If the bible was against women having sex with men it would say the same thing it says about homosexuality.
It would talk about putting them to death, surprise surprise the bible does not. It even says if a man lies with a man as they would with a human they should be put to death.
The meaning here unequivocal. Did you really think homosexuality is about just lusting after the same sex you idiot? No it is not you ridiculous moron.
It's logical when their own logic is used against them
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LULU YOU STUPID MORON KEEP DELIVER YOURSELF TO THE PUBLIC RIDICULE ONE MORE TIME.

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HughBe wrote:
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Dusty M---regarding your comparison to the Civil rights movement of African Americans, Coretta Scott King sees no difference.
HughBe--- Cite her words and provide the source of your information.
Is your Google button broken? I'll start you off with her Wikipedia entry and you can take it from there...On April 1, 1998 at the Palmer House Hilton inChicago, Mrs. King called on the civil rights community to join in the struggle againsthomophobia and anti-gay bias. "Homophobia is like racism and anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry in that it seeks to dehumanize a large group of people, to deny their humanity, their dignity and personhood", she stated.[18] "This sets the stage for further repression and violence that spread all too easily to victimize the nextminority group."In a speech in November 2003 at the opening session of the 13th annual Creating Change Conference, organized by the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, Coretta Scott King made her now famous appeal linking the Civil Rights Movement to LGBT rights: "I still hear people say that I should not be talking about the rights of lesbian and gay people.... But I hasten to remind them that Martin Luther King Jr. said,'Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.' I appeal to everyone who believes in Martin Luther King Jr.'s dream, to make room at the table of brotherhood and sisterhood for lesbian and gay people."Coretta Scott King's support of LGBT rights was strongly criticized by some African-American pastors. She called her critics "misinformed" and said that Martin Luther King's message to the world was one of equality and inclusion

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Adam wrote:
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Leviticus 18:22
Leviticus 20:13
Romans 1:18-32
Corinthians 6:9-11
Timothy 1:8-10
Jude 7
Not one passage says anything about being homosexual Adam. All about possible sexual encounters. There is nothing wrong with being homosexual according too the Bible. There is nothing wrong with living with a person of the same sex.

Giant Fail.

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Adam wrote:
LULU YOU STUPID MORON KEEP DELIVER YOURSELF TO THE PUBLIC RIDICULE ONE MORE TIME.
Thanks for the ad hominem reply. Not one passage says anything about being homosexual.

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mandingowillsay wrote:
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Like many with little or no intellect. You are one of these people who thinks just posting an opposing opinion is refuting someone. You are a moron. If the bible was against women having sex with men it would say the same thing it says about homosexuality.
It would talk about putting them to death, surprise surprise the bible does not. It even says if a man lies with a man as they would with a human they should be put to death.
The meaning here unequivocal. Did you really think homosexuality is about just lusting after the same sex you idiot? No it is not you ridiculous moron.
Nope. You lose again. I can be homosexual, meaning I am sexually attracted to a person of the same sex. I can live with that person. Not one passage says there is anything wrong with that. Why are you misquoting the Bible?
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@mandingowillsay

Ignorance and false pride is what makes the atheists(including the homosexuals) like LULU a fool.. and that is why it is so easy to use their own logic against them.
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LuLu Ford wrote:
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Thanks for the ad hominem reply. Not one passage says anything about being homosexual.
You did it again.

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Adam wrote:
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Ignorance and false pride is what makes the atheists(including the homosexuals) like LULU a fool.. and that is why it is so easy to use their own logic against them.
What a Jackass you are Adam. Not one passage speaks of being homosexual. Not one translation speaks of being homosexual. Lulu is 100% correct dufus.

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I fart up your nose.
Awww...the coward regresses (although, not very far)
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LuLu Ford wrote:
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Not one passage says anything about being homosexual Adam. All about possible sexual encounters. There is nothing wrong with being homosexual according too the Bible. There is nothing wrong with living with a person of the same sex.
Giant Fail.
Wow are you really that stupid? Just because the modern word for sodomy which is homosexuality is not written in the original writings does not mean that it is not about homosexuality.
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What a Jackass you are Adam. Not one passage speaks of being homosexual. Not one translation speaks of being homosexual. Lulu is 100% correct dufus.
Answered. Next
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Just Think wrote:
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Awww...the coward regresses (although, not very far)
3-6 farts more up your nose.
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WasteWater wrote:
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What a Jackass you are Adam. Not one passage speaks of being homosexual. Not one translation speaks of being homosexual. Lulu is 100% correct dufus.
So there are NO homosexuals that existed in the bible...hmmmmm

Interesting, did not know that.
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So, when did the term "homosexual" enter the English vocabulary?

In English the word homosexual was first used in 1892 in the English translation of Krafft-Ebing's "Psychopathia sexualis" which was a reference work, in German, on sexual perversions. It first appeared in 1886 and was enormously popular, being reprinted about once a year!"( http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_year_did_homos... )
"homosexual (adj.) 1892, in C.G. Chaddock's translation of Krafft-Ebing's "Psychopathia Sexualis," from Ger. homosexual, homosexuale (by 1880, in Gustav Jäger), from homo-, comb. form of Gk. homos "same" (see homo-(1))+ Latin-based sexual. "Homosexual" is a barbarously hybrid word, and I claim no responsibility for it. It is, however, convenient, and now widely used. "Homogenic" has been suggested as a substitute.[H. Havelock Ellis, "Studies in Psychology," 1897] Sexual inversion (1883) was an earlier clinical term for it in English. The noun is recorded by 1895. In technical use, either male or female; but in non-technical use almost always male. Slang shortened form homo first attested 1929." ( http://www.etymonline.com/index.php... )
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What does the Bible Say?

The places where the English word "homosexual" occurs in the Bible are found in two verses:

1 Cor. 6:9, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God." (NASB, ESV, NIV,)
1 Tim. 1:10, "realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous man, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers 10 and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, 11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted." (NASB, ESV)

In Each case, the Greek word used for 'homosexual' is &#7936;&#961;&#963 ;&#949;&#957;&#959 ;&#954;&#959;&#943 ;&#964;&#951;&#962 ;, arsenokoites. Here is what it means according to Greek dictionaries:

&#7936;&#961;&#963 ;&#949;&#957;&#959 ;&#954;&#959;&#943 ;&#964;&#951;&#962 ; arsenokoít&#275;s; gen. arsenokoítou, masc. noun, from árs&#275;n (730), a male, and koít&#275; (2845), a bed. A man who lies in bed with another male, a homosexual (1&#12288;Cor. 6:9; 1&#12288;Tim. 1:10 [cf. Lev. 18:22; Rom. 1:27]). Zodhiates, S.(2000). The complete word study dictionary : New Testament (electronic ed.). Chattanooga, TN: AMG Publishers.
88.280 &#7936;&#961;&#963 ;&#949;&#957;&#959 ;&#954;&#959;&#943 ;&#964;&#951;&#962 ;, &#959;&#965; m: a male partner in homosexual intercourse—‘homosexual.’ &#959;&#8016;&#954 ; &#959;&#7988;&#948 ;&#945;&#964;&#949 ; &#8005;&#964;&#953 ; … &#959;&#8020;&#964 ;&#949; &#956;&#959;&#953; &#967;&#959;&#8054 ; &#959;&#8020;&#964 ;&#949; &#956;&#945;&#955; &#945;&#954;&#959; &#8054; &#959;&#8020;&#964 ;&#949; &#7936;&#961;&#963 ;&#949;&#957;&#959 ;&#954;&#959;&#815 0;&#964;&#945;&#95 3; … &#946;&#945;&#963; &#953;&#955;&#949; &#943;&#945;&#957; &#952;&#949;&#959; &#8166; &#954;&#955;&#951; &#961;&#959;&#957; &#959;&#956;&#942; &#963;&#959;&#965; &#963;&#953;&#957; ‘don’t you know that … no adulterers or homosexuals … will receive the kingdom of God’ 1 Cor 6:9–10. It is possible that &#7936;&#961;&#963 ;&#949;&#957;&#959 ;&#954;&#959;&#943 ;&#964;&#951;&#962 ; in certain contexts refers to the active male partner in homosexual intercourse in contrast with &#956;&#945;&#955; &#945;&#954;&#972; &#962;b, the passive male partner (88.281). Louw, J. P., & Nida, E. A.(1996). Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament : Based on semantic domains (electronic ed. of the 2nd edition.). New York: United Bible Societies.
&#7936;&#961;&#963 ;&#949;&#957;&#959 ;&#954;&#959;&#943 ;&#964;&#951;&#962 ; (arsenokoit&#275;s), &#959;&#965; (ou), &#8001; (ho): n.masc.; &#8801; Str 733—LN 88.280 male homosexual, one who takes the active male role in homosexual intercourse (1Co 6:9), specifically interpreted as male homosexual paedophilia (nab footnote); possibly a more generic term in first Timothy; sodomites (rsv, nrsv, nkjv), perverts (niv, neb, reb), practicing homosexuals (nab), homosexual (njb),(1Ti 1:10+), note: translations possibly use certain specific terms to infer or allow certain theologies. Swanson, J.(1997). Dictionary of Biblical Languages with Semantic Domains : Greek (New Testament)(electronic ed.). Oak Harbor: Logos Research Systems, Inc.
&#7936;&#961;&#963 ;&#949;&#957;&#959 ;&#954;&#959;&#943 ;&#964;&#951;&#962 ;, &#959;&#965;, &#8001; an adult male who practices sexual intercourse with another adult male or a boy homosexual, sodomite, pederast Friberg, T., Friberg, B., & Miller, N. F.(2000). Vol. 4: Analytical lexicon of the Greek New Testament. Baker's Greek New Testament library. Grand Rapids, Mich.: Baker Books.
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In Each case, the Greek word used for homosexual is
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What does the Bible Say?

The places where the English word "homosexual" occurs in the Bible are found in two verses:

1 Cor. 6:9, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God." (NASB, ESV, NIV,)
1 Tim. 1:10, "realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous man, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers 10 and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, 11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted." (NASB, ESV)

In Each case, the Greek word used for homosexual is
arsenokoites. Here is what it means according to Greek dictionaries.

gen. arsenokoítou, masc. noun, from árse n a male, and koít a bed. A man who lies in bed with another male, a homosexual Cor. 6:9,Tim. 1:10 Lev. 18:22; Rom. 1:27])

male homosexual, one who takes the active male role in homosexual intercourse (1Co 6:9), specifically interpreted as male homosexual paedophilia (nab footnote); possibly a more generic term in first Timothy; sodomites (rsv, nrsv, nkjv), perverts (niv, neb, reb), practicing homosexuals (nab), homosexual (njb),(1Ti 1:10+), note: translations possibly use certain specific terms to infer or allow certain theologies. Swanson, J.(1997). Dictionary of Biblical Languages with Semantic Domains : Greek (New Testament)(electronic ed.). Oak Harbor: Logos Research Systems, Inc.

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