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Godīs curse be upon the homosexuals. Bad ppl sick and corrupted.
Don't be so hard on yourself, big boi.
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Apocalypse666 wrote:
It is or it isn't. bottom line.
You cannot prove it...thats obvious.
'
Ohhh! You are not paying attention, are you??
I've already given you the answer AND the proof! Guess you missed it, huh?
Truth is, you just don't like my answer!!
Apocalypse666 wrote:
Let me ask you..Do you think Zues is real?
How about Odin? Or are these gods make believe rubbish?
If you can say who are you to judge other peoples religions...then which one is real?
Of course yours is!!
You can say this is how people connected with the god but this just doesn't fit the bill across the boards...sorry
Your god has shown no proof of existance more then all the other gods...
How did those other religions get to the point where gods talked to the holymen and wrote there say to man....
All of this is the same.......
YES!! They are all of the same! They are each as "real" as the next.
How is it you feel you have the authority to tell me about "my" god when, clearly, you have no concept of what that is?
You obviously don't yet understand what I call God...(even though I already told you). Once you reach a certain understanding of what I have said you will know the proof... not of a mythological being but of the pure energy of consciousness.
Each of those "gods" is a structure in space-time which has been created by the thoughts, actions and prayers of MAN. So, yes, these "gods" Man did create and are, essentially, accumulations of the energy of consciousness that have been fed into them.
Apocalypse666 wrote:
Here is the time to prove the existance of your god and you cannot.
We have prove he isn't with the laws of the universe which is science and with philosophy.
WHOA, there, pal!! Please show the link to the scientific study which PROVES there is not a God!! Hadn't ever heard anyone make that claim before!
And don't give me crap about evolution ~ I am a proponent of evolution because I DO understand science and it has nothing to do with disproving God. Talk about biogenesis if you will... what are the latest theories?
Have they yet figured out how to create life from non-living matter by infusing with energy of some sort? Close even yet?
Apocalypse666 wrote:
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May there be something more to this universe?
Sure why not!!!
This Religion and all religions are fake B.S and a step backwards not fowards.
On this last part we are in complete agreement.
Keep thinking about all this stuff ~ You are Thirsty for understanding... and it will come...
(Hint: Quantum theory)
Peace!
Apocalypse666 wrote:
It is or it isn't. bottom line.
You cannot prove it...thats obvious.
'
Ohhh! You are not paying attention, are you??
I've already given you the answer AND the proof! Guess you missed it, huh?
Truth is, you just don't like my answer!!
Apocalypse666 wrote:
Let me ask you..Do you think Zues is real?
How about Odin? Or are these gods make believe rubbish?
If you can say who are you to judge other peoples religions...then which one is real?
Of course yours is!!
You can say this is how people connected with the god but this just doesn't fit the bill across the boards...sorry
Your god has shown no proof of existance more then all the other gods...
How did those other religions get to the point where gods talked to the holymen and wrote there say to man....
All of this is the same.......
YES!! They are all of the same! They are each as "real" as the next.
How is it you feel you have the authority to tell me about "my" god when, clearly, you have no concept of what that is?
You obviously don't yet understand what I call God...(even though I already told you). Once you reach a certain understanding of what I have said you will know the proof... not of a mythological being but of the pure energy of consciousnes.
Unfortunately, in the age of capitalism and the coming nuclear inferno, it is too late for the human race to survive
Henry

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Excellent points.
What I have noticed is that most people who are opposed to gays live in very black & white worlds. They are not familiar with the things you mention here or they rationalize them away. I think the most telling fact about Fundamentalists on this issue is that they cannot muster a reasonable argument. All their arguments are based on the Bible (irrelevant to civil society), the ick factor (irrelevant subjective feelings), appeals to tradition (irrelevant since traditions can, do, and will always change over time), and appeals to child rearing (irrelevant since bearing children is not a requirement of being a human or a citizen.
What you're left with is just bigotry. And they will rationalize all day long to avoid facing reality.
You aqre quite right, but there are billions of uneducated peoples which do not have the opportunity to get to the truth. In the nuclear age this means they know nothing about the already coming nuclear inferno. Of course there are also the natural powers (earth quakes, tsunami desasters, cosmic infernos). The nuclear infernos are deadly!
Henry

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_Chartreuse_ wrote:
Apocalypse666 wrote:
It is or it isn't. bottom line.
You cannot prove it...thats obvious.
'
Ohhh! You are not paying attention, are you??
I've already given you the answer AND the proof! Guess you missed it, huh?
Truth is, you just don't like my answer!!
Apocalypse666 wrote:
Let me ask you..Do you think Zues is real?
How about Odin? Or are these gods make believe rubbish?
If you can say who are you to judge other peoples religions...then which one is real?
Of course yours is!!
You can say this is how people connected with the god but this just doesn't fit the bill across the boards...sorry
Your god has shown no proof of existance more then all the other gods...
How did those other religions get to the point where gods talked to the holymen and wrote there say to man....
All of this is the same.......
YES!! They are all of the same! They are each as "real" as the next.
How is it you feel you have the authority to tell me about "my" god when, clearly, you have no concept of what that is?
You obviously don't yet understand what I call God...(even though I already told you). Once you reach a certain understanding of what I have said you will know the proof... not of a mythological being but of the pure energy of consciousness.
Each of those "gods" is a structure in space-time which has been created by the thoughts, actions and prayers of MAN. So, yes, these "gods" Man did create and are, essentially, accumulations of the energy of consciousness that have been fed into them.
Apocalypse666 wrote:
Here is the time to prove the existance of your god and you cannot.
We have prove he isn't with the laws of the universe which is science and with philosophy.
WHOA, there, pal!! Please show the link to the scientific study which PROVES there is not a God!! Hadn't ever heard anyone make that claim before!
And don't give me crap about evolution ~ I am a proponent of evolution because I DO understand science and it has nothing to do with disproving God. Talk about biogenesis if you will... what are the latest theories?
Have they yet figured out how to create life from non-living matter by infusing with energy of some sort? Close even yet?
Apocalypse666 wrote:
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May there be something more to this universe?
Sure why not!!!
This Religion and all religions are fake B.S and a step backwards not fowards.
On this last part we are in complete agreement.
Keep thinking about all this stuff ~ You are Thirsty for understanding... and it will come...
(Hint: Quantum theory)
Peace!
Apocalypse666 wrote:
It is or it isn't. bottom line.
You cannot prove it...thats obvious.
'
Ohhh! You are not paying attention, are you??
I've already given you the answer AND the proof! Guess you missed it, huh?
Truth is, you just don't like my answer!!
Apocalypse666 wrote:
Let me ask you..Do you think Zues is real?
How about Odin? Or are these gods make believe rubbish?
If you can say who are you to judge other peoples religions...then which one is real?
Of course yours is!!
You can say this is how people connected with the god but this just doesn't fit the bill across the boards...sorry
Your god has shown no proof of existance more then all the other gods...
How did those other religions get to the point where gods talked to the holymen and wrote there say to man....
All of this is the same.......
Of the thousands of mythical gods not a single one has ever been real. Real is the mortal thread by the atomic inferno. In capitalism this means the end of mankind!
Henry

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Loma Preita wrote:
Truth is, you just don't like my answer!!
Apocalypse666 wrote:
Let me ask you..Do you think Zues is real?
How about Odin? Or are these gods make believe rubbish?
If you can say who are you to judge other peoples religions...then which one is real?
Of course yours is!!
You can say this is how people connected with the god but this just doesn't fit the bill across the boards...sorry
Your god has shown no proof of existance more then all the other gods...
How did those other religions get to the point where gods talked to the holymen and wrote there say to man....
All of this is the same.......
YES!! They are all of the same! They are each as "real" as the next.
How is it you feel you have the authority to tell me about "my" god when, clearly, you have no concept of what that is?
You obviously don't yet understand what I call God...(even though I already told you). Once you reach a certain understanding of what I have said you will know the proof... not of a mythological being but of the pure energy of consciousness.
Each of those "gods" is a structure in space-time which has been created by the thoughts, actions and prayers of MAN. So, yes, these "gods" Man did create and are, essentially, accumulations of the energy of consciousness that have been fed into them.
Apocalypse666 wrote:
Here is the time to prove the existance of your god and you cannot.
We have prove he isn't with the laws of the universe which is science and with philosophy.
WHOA, there, pal!! Please show the link to the scientific study which PROVES there is not a God!! Hadn't ever heard anyone make that claim before!
And don't give me crap about evolution ~ I am a proponent of evolution because I DO understand science and it has nothing to do with disproving God. Talk about biogenesis if you will... what are the latest theories?
Have they yet figured out how to create life from non-living matter by infusing with energy of some sort? Close even yet?
Apocalypse666 wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~
May there be something more to this universe?
Sure why not!!!
This Religion and all religions are fake B.S and a step backwards not fowards.
On this last part we are in complete agreement.
Keep thinking about all this stuff ~ You are Thirsty for understanding... and it will come...
(Hint: Quantum theory)
Peace!
Apocalypse666 wrote:
It is or it isn't. bottom line.
You cannot prove it...thats obvious.
'
Ohhh! You are not paying attention, are you??
I've already given you the answer AND the proof! Guess you missed it, huh?
Truth is, you just don't like my answer!!
Apocalypse666 wrote:
Let me ask you..Do you think Zues is real?
How about Odin? Or are these gods make believe rubbish?
If you can say who are you to judge other peoples religions...then which one is real?
Of course yours is!!
You can say this is how people connected with the god but this just doesn't fit the bill across the boards...sorry
Your god has shown no proof of existance more then all the other gods...
How did those other religions get to the point where gods talked to the holymen and wrote there say to man....
All of this is the same.......
YES!! They are all of the same! They are each as "real" as the next.
How is it you feel you have the authority to tell me about "my" god when, clearly, you have no concept of what that is?
You obviously don't yet understand what I call God...(even though I already told you). Once you reach a certain understanding of what I have said you will know the proof... not of a mythological being but of the pure energy of consciousness.
Religions are just a cancer for humanity. Without religions we have enough danger in this world too. But capitalism is a deadly scourge and means certainly the end in a nuclear inferno!

“Listen to the sounds”

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MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
01. How did you decide that men and woman are exactly equal unto each other?
What is the ground for this assumption? Every one can see that on Physical, psychological, emotional, on every level, men and women are different from each other.
If that was not the case, why there was need to make males and females. Why did not God made a Uni Sex model?
As per Islam, men and women are complimentary to each other and not competitors with each other.
Men are made to work outside and earn bread for the family, while women are designed to work inside the house and take care of house and children.
Both these fronts are equally important for happiness and survival and proper development of human civilization.
This Modern Western philosophy of equating men and women and saying both can do every job has played havoc with the social life in the west.
"Equality" of sexes is a myth and even after 100 or so years of "equality" in the west, men and women do not compete against each other in any sport!!
02. In Islam it is man's duty to earn bread for the family and maintain wife and children. It is not correct to say that husband' money is women's. He pays part of money he earns for her maintenance.
Even if women earn their money, they still receive maintenance allowance from men, so women have far more rights and protection in Islam than in western system.
03. Both parents have to treated with respect by their children. Mother gets more respect, because she makes more sacrifices for he children than father.
Mother gets respect, while father gets status and honor from their children.
I doubt if any western system has reached even the lowest level of what we see in Islamic society.
There is no place for Old age Homes in Islamic society, which we see so abundantly in west.
04. I do not know what you mean by dead beat husbands and dead beat daddy's.
In Islam , there is a social life and every one should get married and if spouse dies, they should remarry.
Both marriage and divorce and made easy and are family affairs.
In west by involving courts in both marriage and divorce has made them difficult and complicated.
People prefer to live and not get married. So we see majority of Children born in West are out of wedlock.
What type of society would it be , where majority of its children are born out of wedlock as "bastards"?
Men and women are equal in Islam. That's a given. What the west does is mistake equality for exactness. As you said, men are indeed different to women. While the west seeks a system of exact treatment, Islam seeks a system of equal treatment. In Islam women have rights that men don't have, in order to optimize their duties as mothers, while men have rights that women don't have in order to optimise their duties as fathers. Islam seeks to balance rights for both genders in that way, from a general societal role perspective.

Sure, in many cases the woman may be far more capable in business and work than her husband and in many cases the man can be a far better parent than the woman, and that is all well and good. There is freedom to live like that. But the core rules are to optimise the general case, of women being more capable parents and men being more capable providers.

Dead beat dads and dead-beat husbands are a term used for men who don't fulfil their obligations of being providers. In the west we see plenty cases of the man in house doing nothing, drinking, watching TV, playing cards, and the woman is forced to work and earn and provide for the family since the man is lazy and useless. In Islam, such things are practically taboo. If the man has a family he MUST provide for his family.

Divorce is made difficult in Islam, particularly because it is Makrooh. The western system of separation and divorce stems from Islamic divorce laws. Nowadays western divorce is easier.

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KiMare wrote:
The differences between marriage with/without kids and gay couples;
An apple tree bearing fruit.
An apple tree not bearing fruit for some reason.
A walnut tree who never bears any fruit wanting to be a apple tree.
A walnut tree hanging apples on it's branches pretending to be an apple tree.
Even funnier?
The claim that if the government doesn't 'require' apple trees to bear fruit, then it is discrimination not to call walnut trees apple trees too!
Still, no logical response...
Smirk.
How about I let you suck on my branch and walnuts?

“LOL STFU”

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"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires."

-- Susan B Anthony

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KiMare wrote:
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Actually, I'm on the right side of history, right?
Moreover, you know I'm on the right side of science.
Nor can you argue religion doesn't back me too.
And everyone knows anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning.
Smile.
wilderide wrote:
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Sorry Smirky, you bet on your pony and it has fallen down and can't get up. You gonna stay down there in the dirt or are you going to "evolve" your POV as so many other around you are doing?
I bet my pony on reality. You bet yours on human opinion.

Scoff (nervously) away.

Smile.

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MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
01. How did you decide that men and woman are exactly equal unto each other?
What is the ground for this assumption? Every one can see that on Physical, psychological, emotional, on every level, men and women are different from each other.
If that was not the case, why there was need to make males and females. Why did not God made a Uni Sex model?
As per Islam, men and women are complimentary to each other and not competitors with each other.
Men are made to work outside and earn bread for the family, while women are designed to work inside the house and take care of house and children.
Both these fronts are equally important for happiness and survival and proper development of human civilization.
This Modern Western philosophy of equating men and women and saying both can do every job has played havoc with the social life in the west.
"Equality" of sexes is a myth and even after 100 or so years of "equality" in the west, men and women do not compete against each other in any sport!!
02. In Islam it is man's duty to earn bread for the family and maintain wife and children. It is not correct to say that husband' money is women's. He pays part of money he earns for her maintenance.
Even if women earn their money, they still receive maintenance allowance from men, so women have far more rights and protection in Islam than in western system.
03. Both parents have to treated with respect by their children. Mother gets more respect, because she makes more sacrifices for he children than father.
Mother gets respect, while father gets status and honor from their children.
I doubt if any western system has reached even the lowest level of what we see in Islamic society.
There is no place for Old age Homes in Islamic society, which we see so abundantly in west.
04. I do not know what you mean by dead beat husbands and dead beat daddy's.
In Islam , there is a social life and every one should get married and if spouse dies, they should remarry.
Both marriage and divorce and made easy and are family affairs.
In west by involving courts in both marriage and divorce has made them difficult and complicated.
People prefer to live and not get married. So we see majority of Children born in West are out of wedlock.
What type of society would it be , where majority of its children are born out of wedlock as "bastards"?
The proof is in the pudding.

The pudding looks like shit everywhere.

Smile.

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KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
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Actually, I'm on the right side of history, right?
Moreover, you know I'm on the right side of science.
Nor can you argue religion doesn't back me too.
And everyone knows anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning.
Smile.
<quoted text>
I bet my pony on reality. You bet yours on human opinion.
Scoff (nervously) away.
Smile.
Your pony died but I'm sure you looked like a queen on him.

Did you get any pictures?

Did you drag the pony back to your cave or did you butcher it where it died?

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KiMare wrote:
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The proof is in the pudding.
The pudding looks like shit everywhere.
Smile.
Another child of the news.

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True Truth wrote:
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Another child of the news.
He is also a man and a woman in one. So he contradicts himself when he says men and women aren't equal because he is both. And he says it's his fault for being born that way because he sinned before he was born.

#logicfail

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KiMare wrote:
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The proof is in the pudding.
The pudding looks like shit everywhere.
Smile.
At the nursing home you're in, it's probably not pudding.

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Father_Of_God wrote:
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Nope. Anyone can say who's a sinner. And they do.
So grow up.
And no, God is not all loving and caring and nurturing.
He is also quite often spiteful and vengeful and just cranky.
So if you want him to respect you and your sexual views, you too should be loving and cranky, in no particular order.
Well then all the quotes and scriptures bible thumpers want to throw at people are pointless since you have now set us clear on that. No more spewing of the all righteousness that is your "God".
If he is a spiteful and vengeful then surely being gay is no where near compared to half of the things he has done. And your love thy neighbor, and all the other holier than thou commands are baseless.

“That's right- I'm God's father”

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Erin01 wrote:
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Well then all the quotes and scriptures bible thumpers want to throw at people are pointless since you have now set us clear on that. No more spewing of the all righteousness that is your "God".

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Hey, loser. You can't seem to read.
I'M not a "bible thumper".
I don't own one, never did. The only ones I've seen have been in hotels and whenever I saw one I'd leave a wad sticking the pages together.

You missed the key piece of advice:

GROW UP.

Sure, you can't do it today, but when you do you will look back at your jerk self of today and wince.

In the meantime, just go.

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Father_Of_God wrote:
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Hey, loser. You can't seem to read.
I'M not a "bible thumper".
I don't own one, never did. The only ones I've seen have been in hotels and whenever I saw one I'd leave a wad sticking the pages together.
You missed the key piece of advice:
GROW UP.
Sure, you can't do it today, but when you do you will look back at your jerk self of today and wince.
In the meantime, just go.
Your telling me to grow up? I never said you were a bible thumper just pointing out the flaws in your own statement. Learn to debate without insult and accept others have opinions that don't match your own. So please live by you own advice, grow up, learn to have a discussion without the child like insults in which I don't recall saying anything to you so uncalled for there, and well don't make statements that have holes in them. Not my fault you are incapable of doing such.

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Erin01 wrote:
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Your telling me to grow up? I never said you were a bible thumper just pointing out the flaws in your own statement.:
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More errors
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More blather
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You read the message:

GROW UP!

And the other message:

GO AWAY!

You jerks are a waste of post time.

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Erin01 wrote:
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Your telling me to grow up? I never said you were a bible thumper just pointing out the flaws in your own statement. Learn to debate without insult and accept others have opinions that don't match your own. So please live by you own advice, grow up, learn to have a discussion without the child like insults in which I don't recall saying anything to you so uncalled for there, and well don't make statements that have holes in them. Not my fault you are incapable of doing such.
What a simpleton you are.

When somebody calls you a loser, that does mean he's "debating". He's stating a fact.
He doesn't care about your "arguments", because you are too lame to argue with.
Give up, Mr. Amateur Hour
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Rosa Winkel wrote:
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Exactly right.
Unfortunately that troll is in love with me. Fatal attraction, or what?!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
That troll, as you call me, thinks you are scum.
Everyone knows that but you pretend not to.
Why?
It's such a stupid thing to say.
You know you look stupid every time you say it, and
yet you will say it some more yet.
Because you ARE stupid.
Who on earth do you hope to convince that anyone anywhere loves you?
Anyone?
Anywhere?
If anyone anywhere loved you, then you wouldn't be here all the time groveling for love.

It sucks to be you Phil.

What a loser. Ha!

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