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Dear all:

I am sorry but I will not be addressing anyone who cannot talk in a civil way as I respect others who may disagree with me and that is fine but if one cannot have a civil dialog a serious question and answer formate then I will not answer any of your e-mail if it is not done in the right spirit. If we cannot come to the table truly seeking ones input in the matter in a loving fashion then it really would be just a waste of time because I will know they just want to use this site as a spring board for their hate and I am sorry I will no longer feed the beast so to speak. If one asks me a question that I believe is sincere then if I can answer it I will try Lody willing that is all I can do my time is much, much, to busy to just spin my wheels I have talked to people with diffferent problems and for some I believe they were hepled in some way and likewise I have learned much also in a civil dialog I have learned to now why one may feel this way or why they may have this question or that. However, just to mock, slander, attack one with the spirit of hate I just will not be a part of it just is not the way I approach a dialog it could be any dialog. Thank you all for your understanding. Gary. 1 John 3:13-15.

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Gary wrote:
Hi Boots:
I am sorry but maybe you did not know tha the Bible speaks of who wrote the Bible?
God tells us:
"For the prophecy came not in old time BY THE WILL OF MAN: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Spirit: 2 Peter 1:21
Here we can see in God's word that God made sure every word was not by the will of men but holy men of God as God the Holy Spirit moved them. We also see in many other places God told the prophets to write word for word what He wants said into a book just read Jer. 36:1-6, 2 Tim. 3:15-16. Then when we come to the end of this bok we call the Bible God warns us not to add not take away what is written in this book, Rev. 22:18-19. In fact God tells us we all will be judged according to His word in this book. So who amI to tell God what He should do? Romans. 9:11-24 goes into great detail in who is really in control.
Since God is the creator of this heaven and earth I am sure it was no problem for Him that His word would be perserved for us. This is a great blessing of God is it not? Here many people have no clue what God's word says about these subjects and many more the fact is, God has much to say concerning His will and mankind this is why God made sure He was going to have His word perserved forever for the word of God declares:
"Heaven and earth shall pass away but my words shall never pass away"
Now man's heart is in rebelion towards the true and living God and the reason why is, we are all in the same boat we are all born sinners in a dire need of salvation. This is why we are all here on this earth and the question is, what will we do with God and His word?
God told us:
Behold, I have told you before." Matthew 24:25
Now mankind is all under a test what will we do when God tells us these things? This is all I can do is just encourage one to read His word, all that I can do is share and pray for those that will. My desire is God's desire and that is, all men and woman would read His word to see if these things are so or not? I cannot force anyone to believe this is all the work of God, John 6:29. Thank you. Gary.
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I just glanced at that and picked up the part about God telli ng us who wrote the Bible. That is a logical error, so I didn't read further.

If man wrote the Bible and said in the Bible that the words were the Word of God, that would not make it written by God, except if God really did write it. There is no evidence of God, so to quote the Bible to prove the Bible is a vicious circle which takes you nowhere.

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Gary wrote:
Hi Adam:
I am not to concerned what the world is doing, all we can do is warn the world to flee from the wrath of God. God is the one who is really in complete control of it all and it sure looks like He is lifting His hand of restraint off this world and this is why we are seeing sin run it's course as it was in the days of Naoh and the days of Lot so shall it be when the Son of man is revealed, Luke 17, 2 Peter 2. God links Noah's day with Lot's day, it is like reading the paper look what it was like in the days of Noah.
"And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." Gen. 6:5
The world says, if it feels good go for it!
God says:
"The earth also was CORRUPT before God, and the earth was filled with VIOLENCE" Gen. 6:11
Just two words proceeded judgment in the days of Noah and this was corruptin and violence. Why it is like reading the todays paper is it not? Thank you. Gary. 1 John 3:13-15
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Gary, by your informing the world of the wrath of God you are making the judgement that the world is needing that information because you have judged the world as sinning. I would think you then are personally judging and accusing.
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Twiigs_n_b3rriez wrote:
<quoted text> Like I said before, I dunno you and you dunno me, so stop talking to me and about me, stupid fool. I can't wait till the day you find out that I'm not Phil, jackass. So now, I'm going to ignore you becuz I'm not playing your stupid game anymore, moron. Get it? Got it? Good, now get lost.
Oh baby! Sweetie lump lump. Did oose widdle feelings get hurt.
There there!
This may be your entire life, the best thing that ever happened to a hillbilly from NC, but it's still just a thread on a rant forum.

You'll get over it.
In maybe six (6) more years! Ha!

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Twiigs_n_b3rriez wrote:
<quoted text> What happened Adam, or should I say Florian? You think we don't realize who you are because you decide to simply change your name and location using proxy? Remember, I know who you are and where you live. I know tons of things about you, Florian. Don't make me out you even more than I already have..

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<quoted text> Whatever, Florian. Get lost before I tell the world about who you really are and all those skeletons you got hiding in your closet.
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Back to the real world threats again, Phil.
And you think Adam is Tim Duekler?

What a loser. Why don't you get your fancy imaginary Asheville "lawyer" to send an invitation for a "fair" gun duel? That's your normal modus operandi, pardon my hillbillie German.

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Homosexuals spoil a minimum of four families.....the two concerned parties and their spouses.
How many children from the two families get affected, depends on situation.
This is a sexual perversion and an abomination, what it has to do with the love, the noble sentiment that is the highest degree of human bliss.
A society where these perverts are treated as "equals" has only a short leash of life.
Makes you feel like a big man denigrating other people and their families doesn't it?

You are sick.

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Rick in Kansas wrote:
Why is it that so many Christians don't seem to have paid a whole heck of a lot of attention to what their Christ really taught them? It really doesn't matter how much certitude you have in the belief that you have gotten the whole Christianity thing the only right way possible, it's still HIS call whether someone did or not, not that of those who follow him.
If you really want to pray that God shares your "issues" with homosexuals/homosexuality/homo sexual behavior/and/or/homoerotic fantasies, that is your right of course. You and those who choose to pray that God shares your "issues" with you, are pretty much free to be right bastards to anyone who you choose to pray that God has "issues" with in the sanctity of your own homes and places of worship. But you do need to realize that not all folk are going to pray that God has issues with the homosexual/homosexuality/homos exual behavior/and/or/homoerotic fantasies. Others have read the Bible too you know and know just how much you have to torture scripture to get the notion that God would want you to pray that He would have those sorts of issues. But it is your right to do so, just don't be too disappointed when we don't pray along.
Well said. Just when I thought this thread was over you came along and posted something intelligent.
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Where is the option not sure?

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Homosexuals are nasty and disgustin why would anyone want to chose dick over pussy and titties. I feel sorry if they adopt a kid and he goes to school saying i have 2 dads. They should not exist if the whole world gets this disease then the world is over as gays can't reproduce that's why god made man and women to reproduce
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Some ppl will never learn.
The greatest weapon of the devil is his
try to dissuade weak people from the right path in which he transmits his thoughts and doubts on them. That means some groups who got attempted by the evil spirit of the devil start to speak without any real knowledge of morals.The truth has been out there for a long time but that doesn't give some ppl what they want so they will come up with all kinds of arguements,assumtations and lies to justify their sinful lifestyles.
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The greedy and perverted philosophy of homosexuals is like communism. What´s yours is mine and what´s mine is mine too.

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Akashdeep12 wrote:
Homosexuals are nasty and disgustin why would anyone want to chose dick over pussy and titties. I feel sorry if they adopt a kid and he goes to school saying i have 2 dads. They should not exist if the whole world gets this disease then the world is over as gays can't reproduce that's why god made man and women to reproduce
April Fool's day was yesterday, dillweed.

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God bless us every one. Except Phil Twiigs_n_b3rriez
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Global Health
Staying H.I.V.-Free for $288
By DONALD G. McNEIL Jr.
Published: April 1, 2013

A new study suggests that most young gay men in Mexico City would pledge to stay H.I.V.-free, attend a monthly safe-sex talk and take regular H.I.V. tests to prove they were uninfected — all in return for just $288 a year.

Most male prostitutes would make the same promise for $156 a year, the study found.

Because each person receiving H.I.V. treatment costs Mexico’s public health system up to $7,000 a year for drugs alone, payments that encourage men to stay uninfected could be a bargain, the authors argue.

The study, done by researchers from Brown University, the University of California at Berkeley and Mexico’s national public health institute, was published online by The European Journal of Health Economics.

Although other countries have tried programs that pay people for good health behavior, like taking children for checkups, the authors believe their study was the first to pinpoint a specific dollar value that would ensure cooperation from 70 percent of a risk group — in this case, young gay and bisexual men, who have very high H.I.V. infection rates and are the drivers of Mexico’s epidemic.

The researchers approached men aged 18 to 25 in gay bars, discos and the streets of the city’s red-light district. The 40-minute survey, taken on cellphone-size computers, increased or decreased the amount each man was offered until 70 percent answered yes.

When it comes to staying H.I.V.-free, prostitutes have to make difficult decisions, said the lead author, Omar Galárraga, a health economist at Brown. They are often desperate for cash, and they can charge more for sex without a condom.

“But also, they know they are high-risk, so it’s good for them to have checkups,” he said.“If you’re a man who has sex with men in Mexico City, you’re lucky if you are tested every two years, if at all.”

Although he has not surveyed gay men or prostitutes in the United States to determine how much cash would be tempting, Dr. Galárraga said the cost-benefit ratio could, in theory, be greater in the United States because drugs and hospital care are far more expensive.

However, he noted two important differences. Prostitution is not illegal in Mexico, but it is in the United States, which could hamper recruitment. Also, 9 percent of the survey takers said they would not participate at any price, and they tended to be wealthier and better educated — that is, more resembling Americans.
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Hi Boots:
I do not do the judging no way! All that I can do is share what God's word declares that is word alone is the sole judge of mankind. Many people I understand do not like to even think about this idea throug, could it really be true? God tells us that He will come to judge the world read the word to see if these things are so or not. Please, do not trust me who am I? I am just one declaring to all here when I share verses as God tells us He is a consuming fire, Hebrews. 12:29. Who am I to tell the Almighty different?
It is sad, so many people can make accusations about the Bible yet they never read the word if they did they would know these things. I cannot force anyone to believe this is all the work and grace of God, Jonn 6:29, here I can share where the verses are at but if you are truly interested I would think you would search out this matter yourself? After all, what can be more important than this? Thank you. Gary. 1 John 3:13-15
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Gary, by your informing the world of the wrath of God you are making the judgement that the world is needing that information because you have judged the world as sinning. I would think you then are personally judging and accusing.
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Hi Twiigs:

As I said before I never choosed to be a sinner but I am. I never hoosed to fll into sin but I have, you see drunk, some, lieing, cheating, stealing, porno, lust, and on and on it goes your sin is no different than any of these other sins they all cause death for the wages of sin is death this is why we all need salvationand that can only happen if the Lord truly saves one then soon these sins will go because God has made one a new creation in Christand He sent His Spirit inside of one this all takes a work of God to truly believe on the Lord.

"And Jsus answered andsaid uno them, This is THE WRK OF GOD THAT YOU BELIEVE ON HIM WHOM HE HATH SENT." John 6:29

This is not my work your work it must be all the work of God to believe on Him. Now there are many that may say the are believers because they did something but the fact is, God must make the first move to save one so he will call out from apure heart only because God already gave him that heart to call on the ame of the Lrd. Many today have what you call a do it your self have it your way self help gospel that is built on the pride of man so this is why many will be turned off becausehey see no rea chnge in them bno fruit of the Spirit of God in their lives because all they id is just [join up] and it does not last because it was all built on what they have done and by their will not by the will of God, John 1:13., Romans 9:11-24.

For some reason many want to make this sin some kind of special sin God just calls sin sin. The fact is, we are all in the same boat born siners and in a dire need of salvation that's it. We can cry out for His mercy and in the mean time read His word asking Him for wisdom and understnding begging Him for mercy, I have no problem doing this for without His mercy it would be all up hill. I cannot share with one what God has given me it has to be given the grace of God, Eph. 2:8-9. not of works least any man should boast. Thank you. Gary
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<quoted text> Great, then if you are civil and understanding you will realize that I didn't choose to be a homosexula. Why would anyone want to be something that is so despised of? If I could be straight, then I would but I don't have that choice and I cannot choose my emotions and the love that I feel towards people of the same sex. And just so you know, I have surrendered my self to God a while back, and the only thing that became more apparent was that my feelings towards people of the gender only became stronger. I have tried time and time again, even forcing myself to believe that I liked women. Even having sexual relations with them and try to feel the love that I feel towards men for women but to no avail. Now, why is it that I have absolutely no physical, emotional, or sexual attraction to females? More than likely you won't have an answer for that but I have open ears and will take your opinion in as food for thought. Of course I could get married to a female but then then I would be living a lie joined to someone that I have absolutely no feelings for.
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Adam wrote:
Global Health
Staying H.I.V.-Free for $288
By DONALD G. McNEIL Jr.
Published: April 1, 2013
A new study suggests that most young gay men in Mexico City would pledge to stay H.I.V.-free, attend a monthly safe-sex talk and take regular H.I.V. tests to prove they were uninfected — all in return for just $288 a year.
Most male prostitutes would make the same promise for $156 a year, the study found.
Because each person receiving H.I.V. treatment costs Mexico’s public health system up to $7,000 a year for drugs alone, payments that encourage men to stay uninfected could be a bargain, the authors argue.
The study, done by researchers from Brown University, the University of California at Berkeley and Mexico’s national public health institute, was published online by The European Journal of Health Economics.
Although other countries have tried programs that pay people for good health behavior, like taking children for checkups, the authors believe their study was the first to pinpoint a specific dollar value that would ensure cooperation from 70 percent of a risk group — in this case, young gay and bisexual men, who have very high H.I.V. infection rates and are the drivers of Mexico’s epidemic.
The researchers approached men aged 18 to 25 in gay bars, discos and the streets of the city’s red-light district. The 40-minute survey, taken on cellphone-size computers, increased or decreased the amount each man was offered until 70 percent answered yes.
When it comes to staying H.I.V.-free, prostitutes have to make difficult decisions, said the lead author, Omar Galárraga, a health economist at Brown. They are often desperate for cash, and they can charge more for sex without a condom.
“But also, they know they are high-risk, so it’s good for them to have checkups,” he said.“If you’re a man who has sex with men in Mexico City, you’re lucky if you are tested every two years, if at all.”
Although he has not surveyed gay men or prostitutes in the United States to determine how much cash would be tempting, Dr. Galárraga said the cost-benefit ratio could, in theory, be greater in the United States because drugs and hospital care are far more expensive.
However, he noted two important differences. Prostitution is not illegal in Mexico, but it is in the United States, which could hamper recruitment. Also, 9 percent of the survey takers said they would not participate at any price, and they tended to be wealthier and better educated — that is, more resembling Americans.
Rosa Winkel with your fake proxy are you still pretending being me?
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Just Think wrote:
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zzzz....homosexuality is not a choice.
Let's try this in a way that even someone as unintelligent as you might understand:
If a homosexual never has sex, are they still a homosexual?
We'll wait....
A person who never has perverted homosexual sex is not a homosexual. The act of perversion defines the pervert.

It is a choice to be a "DOG" not an act of nature.
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Twiigs_n_b3rriez wrote:
PS. Gary
Why does the Bible contradict itself so much? If we all came from Adam and Eve wouldn't that be incest? Just some food for thought.
No it would not be incest. The BIBLE does not contradict it's self anywhere.

“LOL STFU”

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No it would not be incest. The BIBLE does not contradict it's self anywhere.
The bible is the definition of contradictions.

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