Is homosexuality a sin?

Is homosexuality a sin?

Created by Travis Morgan on Oct 27, 2007

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Since: Nov 10

Powellton WV

#83251 Mar 3, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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I am a hermaphrodite and a genetic chimera. A defective monster mutation of genes.
Was it my fault? Of course not.
Was it God's fault? According to the only written source of substance, no. It was a consequence of the fall. One of many deadly consequences that affect us all.
Hence the question we all must face; How do we respond and deal with our brokenness? There and there alone is our sinfulness.
Performance for me is a lost cause, I could never catch up with anyone else. I choose faith in a solution provided for me by another.
The claim that the sexual brokenness of homosexuality is God's plan is simply denial. History, culture, religion and science reject that conclusion.
How we were born is just the luck of the draw.
It comes down to genetics.
There is no fault or blame in How a person was
born.
There is only the question of what you are going
to do about it? Are you going to try your best,
keep a positive attitude, strive to be an asset
to society.
No one is born "perfect."
But that doesn't mean that we are are of no value.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Olds, Canada

#83252 Mar 3, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>Back to the limp wristed gay twirl ad homoan attacks...

I understand.

Smirk.
Back to desperation and ignorance.

It suits you.

Laugh.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#83253 Mar 3, 2013
arctic wrote:
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How we were born is just the luck of the draw.
It comes down to genetics.
There is no fault or blame in How a person was
born.
There is only the question of what you are going
to do about it? Are you going to try your best,
keep a positive attitude, strive to be an asset
to society.
No one is born "perfect."
But that doesn't mean that we are are of no value.
Yes genetics play a significant role.

It does not explain the presence of evil however. Or love.

Nor does it create value. In fact, by itself, it is simply survival of the fittest and damn the rest.

Which then begs the question, why do humans stand apart from animals?

If my value was dependent on genetics, I should have been aborted.

So, why do you have value? Performance is what you indicate. If someone is incapable of performance, or simply lazy, are they not then disposable?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#83254 Mar 3, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>
Back to desperation and ignorance.
It suits you.
Laugh.
The very first verse says God created the heavens and earth. Everything out of nothing. When I was in high school, people like you mocked that.

Now scientists call it the Big Bang Theory.

They also mocked that life was created out of the ground.

Or that the very roots of human life was genderless. Something that the reunion of marriage mirrors back to.

Newton used the reference in Proverbs 8 of wisdom standing by God and delighting in creation to deduct his discoveries.

Oh, and just a minor correction for you. It was science of the times that called the earth flat. The Bible was right all along. It says 'round'. Four times. And the earth is suspended in space.

Here are two;

Isaiah 40:22 (NASB)
It is He who sits above the circle of the earth...

Job 26:7 (NIV)
He spreads out the northern [skies] over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing.

Smirk.
Rosa Winkel

Quakers Hill, Australia

#83255 Mar 3, 2013
_Olive_ wrote:
<quoted text>
I know, tragic.
It's much worse than the posters who died of cancer, or something like that. It will always leave me wondering if there was something I could have said to him.
:-(
Rosa Winkel

Quakers Hill, Australia

#83256 Mar 3, 2013
_Chartreuse_ wrote:
<quoted text>
1) I'm not dead. 2) I have no relatives with British proxies. Poseur.
Come to Australia and say all that. I dare U to, fluro-yellow belly.
Rosa Winkel

Quakers Hill, Australia

#83257 Mar 3, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>I made no such claim.
It's obvious from your previous posts that reading comprehension isn't one of your strong suits. Stretching and flailing yes, reading comprehension no.
<quoted text>Absolutely ridiculous, aside from a few brainwashed fundies no one believes such childishly silly drivel...which is why you never bothered to support your obviously incorrect statement with proof of great modern day scientists making such claims.
Again, there are no biblical references amounting to scientific insight...the opposite yes, there's many examples of the bible making statements which are very much opposed to science but that's about it.
Heck, the church still believed in flat earth until around 400 years ago.
But no worries little one, you "bleev" and that all that counts! You can hang onto your delusions about sin and homosexuals as long as you don't dare quest for knowledge and stay ignorant in the box your god made just for precious little old you!
Why don't you sit down, munch on a few crayons then lick a window or two. It might make you seem slightly less crazy and desperate.
Laugh.
U got that fundie clown picked. I see it doesn't take long.

Cool!

Since: Nov 10

Powellton WV

#83259 Mar 3, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes genetics play a significant role.
It does not explain the presence of evil however. Or love.
Nor does it create value. In fact, by itself, it is simply survival of the fittest and damn the rest.
Which then begs the question, why do humans stand apart from animals?
If my value was dependent on genetics, I should have been aborted.
So, why do you have value? Performance is what you indicate. If someone is incapable of performance, or simply lazy, are they not then disposable?
Regardless of where a person comes
from all have the same value at birth.

Take out a $100 dollar bill. That is
a person at birth.
Now take that bill and crumple it up,
step on it...lol... then unfold it.
What is that crumpled bill worth?
Even if it's banged up it's still worth
$100 dollars.

Ppl are the same way.
No matter how banged up we get we still
have great value.

Since: Nov 10

Powellton WV

#83261 Mar 3, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes genetics play a significant role.
It does not explain the presence of evil however. Or love.
Nor does it create value. In fact, by itself, it is simply survival of the fittest and damn the rest.
Which then begs the question, why do humans stand apart from animals?
If my value was dependent on genetics, I should have been aborted.
So, why do you have value? Performance is what you indicate. If someone is incapable of performance, or simply lazy, are they not then disposable?
I believe in evil.
I've worked w/men who beat their child
to death, choked the life out of their
wives, raped elderly women... I've seen
evil.
It is a darker side of humans.

Prior to civilized society life was survival
of the fittest. But we now see the value in
all life. And we protect the weaker among us.
It is what separates us from other animals.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#83262 Mar 3, 2013
arctic wrote:
<quoted text>
Regardless of where a person comes
from all have the same value at birth.
Take out a $100 dollar bill. That is
a person at birth.
Now take that bill and crumple it up,
step on it...lol... then unfold it.
What is that crumpled bill worth?
Even if it's banged up it's still worth
$100 dollars.
Ppl are the same way.
No matter how banged up we get we still
have great value.
That sounds... special.

It has no basis of validity however. In fact, it flies in the face of reality. Hitler has as much value as an innocent child?
Rosa Winkel

Quakers Hill, Australia

#83265 Mar 3, 2013
R-----O----S-----E wrote:
<quoted text>You are right, we got you pegged as the gay butt stop. Took one minute or less.
Whatever, dumb troll.
Rosa Winkel

Quakers Hill, Australia

#83266 Mar 3, 2013
arctic wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe in evil.
I've worked w/men who beat their child
to death, choked the life out of their
wives, raped elderly women... I've seen
evil.
It is a darker side of humans.
Prior to civilized society life was survival
of the fittest. But we now see the value in
all life. And we protect the weaker among us.
It is what separates us from other animals.
Shocking stuff! Homo homini lupus.

Having said that, that wolf in your avatar is beautiful.

Since: Nov 10

Powellton WV

#83267 Mar 3, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
That sounds... special.
It has no basis of validity however. In fact, it flies in the face of reality. Hitler has as much value as an innocent child?
LOL

Yes...that's the point.
Hitler Had the same value as everyone.
But look what he did with it.

Hence the idea of excepting our own value
and, w/a positive attitude, using our talents
to better society.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#83268 Mar 3, 2013
arctic wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe in evil.
I've worked w/men who beat their child
to death, choked the life out of their
wives, raped elderly women... I've seen
evil.
It is a darker side of humans.
Prior to civilized society life was survival
of the fittest. But we now see the value in
all life. And we protect the weaker among us.
It is what separates us from other animals.
Then why are you still dealing with evil?

What is your solution?

Since: Nov 10

Powellton WV

#83269 Mar 3, 2013
Because no matter what your handicaps
are you still have talents that would
make you an asset.

Since: Nov 10

Powellton WV

#83270 Mar 3, 2013
Rosa Winkel wrote:
<quoted text>
Shocking stuff! Homo homini lupus.
Having said that, that wolf in your avatar is beautiful.
Thanks:) That's Kamataz
The alpha male of the Sawtooth pack.

Since: Nov 10

Powellton WV

#83271 Mar 3, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Then why are you still dealing with evil?
What is your solution?
Solution?

For evil?
Sweetie there is no solution. There has
always been evil ppl. Or ppl who do evil
tings. Always will be.
It's just part of our nature.
The only thing we can do is early diagnosis
of mental illness and aggressive treatment.
The death penalty in every state would
be a good idea. As much as ppl don't like
executions there will always be a small number
of ppl who are so bad that they will always
be a danger to society.
They will NEVER be safe in society.
And ppl like that, who commit the most atrocious
crimes should be executed.
That would be a good start in keeping innocent
ppl safe.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#83272 Mar 3, 2013
arctic wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL
Yes...that's the point.
Hitler Had the same value as everyone.
But look what he did with it.
Hence the idea of excepting our own value
and, w/a positive attitude, using our talents
to better society.
Why?

Based on what? What measures value, or more so, who?

If I take advantage of 20 to benefit 10, what value is that?

What if the 20 have no 'value'?

And it still doesn't explain the presence of evil. The ability to be Gandhi or Hitler.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#83273 Mar 3, 2013
_Chartreuse_ wrote:
WARSAW, Poland (AP)— Lech Walesa, the Polish democracy icon and Nobel peace prize winner, has sparked outrage in Poland by saying that gays have no right to a prominent role in politics and that as a minority they need to "adjust to smaller things."
Some commentators are now suggesting that Walesa, the leading figure in Poland's successful democracy struggle against communism, has irreparably harmed his legacy.
Walesa said in a television interview on Friday that he believes gays have no right to sit on the front benches in Parliament and, if represented at all, should sit in the back, "and even behind a wall."
"They have to know that they are a minority and must adjust to smaller things. And not rise to the greatest heights, the greatest hours, the greatest provocations, spoiling things for the others and taking (what they want) from the majority," he told the private broadcaster TVN during a discussion of gay rights. "I don't agree to this and I will never agree to it."
"A minority should not impose itself on the majority," Walesa said.
The words have enraged many.
"From a human point of view his language was appalling. It was the statement of a troglodyte," said Jerzy Wenderlich, a deputy speaker of Parliament with the Democratic Left Alliance.
In some ways the uproar says as much about Poland today as it does about Walesa.
Walesa, Poland's first democratic-era president, is a deeply conservative Roman Catholic and a father of eight. But, the democracy he helped create in 1989 from the turmoil of strikes and other protests has had a profound social transformation in recent years.
Poland is a traditionally conservative and Catholic society that long suppressed discussions of gay rights. The topic was essentially taboo under communism, and in the early years of democracy. The Polish church, which has a strong role in political life, still holds that homosexuality is deviant, while gays and lesbians say they face discrimination and even violence.
However, much has changed. A watershed moment came in 2011 when a new progressive and anti-clerical party — Palikot's Movement — entered Parliament for the first time. Taking seats for the party were Anna Grodzka, a transsexual, and Robert Biedron, who is openly gay. These were all historic firsts.
The two have been in the public eye while lawmakers have debated a civil partnership law. Though lawmakers have recently struck down proposals, the discussions continue. A new campaign was just launched to fight taboos.
Some predicted the consequences for Walesa could be serious.
A national committee devoted to fighting hate speech and other crimes filed a complaint with prosecutors on Sunday in Gdansk, Walesa's home city, accusing him of promoting "propaganda of hate against a sexual minority."
Walesa is no longer active in Polish political life, though he is often interviewed and asked his opinion on current affairs. Much of his time is spent giving lectures internationally on his role in fighting communism and on issues of peace and democracy.
"Now nobody in their right mind will invite Lech Walesa as a moral authority, knowing what he said," Wenderlich said.
Monika Olejnik, a leading television journalist, said Walesa "disgraced the Nobel prize."
Some, however, said they were not surprised by Walesa's words.
"I am surprised that only now we are noticing that Walesa is not in control of what he says and that he has views that are far from being politically correct," said Adam Bielan, a conservative Polish member of the European Parliament.
Another poster said you died.
Doctor REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#83274 Mar 3, 2013
Homosexuality isn't just a 'sin',it's an ABOMINATION.

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