Is homosexuality a sin?

[LuLu Ford]

Karma is a_______ wrote:

<quoted text>
bob, great that's your opinion and you are entitled to it.
but you know what they say about opinions, right?
oh and BTW since your imaginary friend Satan along with your mythological omnescent skydaddy "The Lord" don't really exist, except for inside your head
IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!

It most certainly doesn't matter at all. Bob needs to get a life.

[KiMare]

Roadrunner wrote:

A letter like yours? You mean the one that you had to get because there was question of your sanity? Most people are already presumed sane, and don't have their sanity questioned, as you did, requiring you to see someone to test you for sanity, resulting in your "letter". It's not something to be proud of.<quoted text>

Honey, look at the reality on here.

The one WITH the letter is constantly pointing out denial in those without the letter.

In fact, in your case, I'd suggest you try to get a letter from me.

[KiMare]

KiMare wrote:
One of many aspects of marriage is sexual fidelity.
A gay 'marriage' would be 'fidelity' to only abuse and debase only ONE person, right?
Just trying to understand the logic here.
I guess that is better than abusing a unlimited number, however, none would be best.

Roadrunner wrote:

A romantic, sexual life between a same sex couple is NOT abusive. However, the ignorance and bigotry you would pass onto any children or a significant other would be considered abuse. Why do you try to further abuse others here by spouting off your lies, inaccuracies, insanity, bigotry and hatred?
It's posts like yours and those from Bob and Adam that incite hate crimes. If someone read your words, and that lead them to hate homosexuals and then go perform a hate crime against them, and then when it lead back to your post, you could also be cited with a hate crime. I don't wish for someone to be hurt, but I wish people like you would be silenced from your hate before something like that were to happen. Be proactive and jail you assholes for hate crimes.<quoted text>

This is the denial and twisting that will prevent you from receiving a letter.

I have posted proof (such as this; http://www.webmd.com/sex/anal-sex-health-conc... )that anal sex is harmful many times. It not only states that anal sex is the riskiest form of sex, but that the anus was not designed for intercourse.

You can stamp your feet all you want, it won't change the reality that anal sex is harmful, unhealthy and demeaning.

More stupendous is that you feed young people that lie and turn around and call me dangerous for exposing it and offering alternatives!

This is the irony of just one of many subjects we have addressed.

Honey you may be sick, but you are SICK!

Trust me, I know, you will never get a letter with stupidity like that!

[KiMare]

KiMare wrote:<quoted text>
Aside from any truly sincere Christian disagreeing with you, every single culture and religion does too.
The common human view about homosexual sex is against nature, immoral, harmful and degrading to name a few of the more mild views.
Do you have a explanation why that is?
I know you do, I'd just love to see where you go with it.

No premise at all. You know that.
The most agreed percentage is that 4% of the population is GLBT. Only about half of those would seek SS partners.
-That percentage in those various categories indicate a genetic disorder. Transgendered even agree.
-Of course SS orientation causes the attraction. What you fail to address is the physical conflict that attraction encounters.

My point is clear;
Roadrunner wrote:
"The Bible says nothing specifically about the word HOMOSEXUALITY. People have simply misinterpreted what the Bible says."
-Of course the Bible didn't use the word homosexuality. It wasn't written in English.
-A vast majority of people who have STUDIED the Bible have a consistent and common understanding of sexual immorality and that homosexual sex is wrong.
-That is not just the view of sincere Christians, it is the consistent view of cultures and religions!
I asked why humanity holds that view.
You jumped in, ignored RR's blatant mis-characterization and brushed my question aside and inserted more false assertions.
I responded and corrected your mis-information.
You ignored that and restated one false assertion (gay unions have every opportunity and have in places, to obtain legitimate rights).
What is clear, is that you have avoided my points because you have no logical response. You have parroted a gay talking point twirl without using logic and truth.
All this points out your denial and enablement once again.

JDubbizback wrote:

<quoted text> You are such a wonderful liar it's utterly pathetic... Get a life and stop trying to force your religious beliefs on others. We know what your religion says about homosexuality... and we particularly don't give a rat's ass. If we don't want to be saved then so be it. But preaching your lies over and over again is not going to make a difference at the least. Nobody cares, so stop wasting your time and breath. The people on this forum know the truth about homosexuality because we actually live it. You on the other hand have no experience so for you to claim to know all about homosexuality and how it is a choice is a lie. You haven't lived a day in our lives so you don't know sh!t except the lies that society forces you to believe. If I don't wanna be saved( that is if homosexuality were really a sin, which it's not) then so be it. If we go to hell then we just do. But I've tried time and again and my orientation is not going to change. Again, you haven't been there so stop trying to act like you know so much about something you haven't even the slightest clue about. The day you chose to be gay is going to be the day I choose to become straight ( and being gay doesn't just mean have sex with someone and think that makes you gay.... ERRRR, WRONG!) Now get a life and get educated!

You are such a wonderful idiot it's utterly pathetic... Get a life and stop trying to force your stupidity on others.

If you read and comprehend what I posted, you will find I responded to one of your fellow idiots who made a stupid statement about Christianity. No surprise you would join her.

Hardly "forcing my beliefs on others", especially since you don't know what my beliefs are. In fact, I'm the one using evolution and social science here. You want to debate faith!

The reality is, there is not a single person on here that can claim my perspective; a lesbian trapped in a straight man's body.

In spite of that advantage, my responses here are simply a unrelenting grip on reality. Your gay twirling and hissy fits won't stop that.

[KiMare]

fungirlinluv wrote:

<quoted text>
I certainly don't know how every single culture and religion feels about homosexuality, but I take it you've done some extensive research on this?? And you have ascertained this "common view" from what exactly? "Common view" meaning - 50%? 60%?
The Bible, and specifically, Leviticus say a lot of things. It specifically says that if a man sleeps with a woman when she is menstruating both must CUT OFF from their people (Leviticus 20:18). Do you feel as strongly about this passage?? Or do you pick and choose which sections of the Bible to endorse?

As to historical response to gays, you need to do your own study if you are unaware.

As to my beliefs, I don't debate faith, I debate reality. I was simply responding to a highly inaccurate and stupid statement about the Bible.

Your question to me shows you have picked up a gay talking point that only exposes your lack of knowledge about the Hebrew faith and theology.

I have said numerous times on here, I am a redeemed cynic who remains barbarian.

[KiMare]

KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Aside from any truly sincere Christian disagreeing with you, every single culture and religion does too.
The common human view about homosexual sex is against nature, immoral, harmful and degrading to name a few of the more mild views.
Do you have a explanation why that is?
I know you do, I'd just love to see where you go with it.
Did you see that link I forgot to post?

Roadrunner wrote:

No, it is not the "common human view". It's the "common view" of idiots and bigots like yourself. If it were the common human view, meaning most people, then marriages wouldn't be becoming legal state after state, now would it? DOMA wouldn't be on the verge of being toppled. Rights for same sex couples would be granted ever more increasingly like they are.
I love it when you post inaccuracies like this so I can prove what an idiot you truly are. Thank you for allowing me to prove you and every other ignorant bigot wrong. I do enjoy putting fools like you in your place. Maybe that place should be in a closet somewhere so we don't have to deal with your hatred, ignorance and bigotry.<quoted text>

Honey, re-read what I posted.

I wasn't talking about just modern Western world. I was talking about human history.

Just a reality check; DOMA was just passed in another state.

This density disqualifies you from getting a letter. Things have got to change, just saying...

[KiMare]

Roadrunner wrote:

"Marriage" is nothing more than a legal contract, binding two people together, usually with a ceremony. It gives them certain rights that a simple union simply does not have. Legal rights. It has nothing to do with the fact that they can not procreate with one another exclusively, the old fashioned way. And common sense tells us that there is nothing wrong with granting two people who wish to spend their life together, and enjoy those same legal benefits as heterosexuals, the opportunity to be married.
I'm not missing anything, nor am I confused. I'm fully aware what a marriage is and what it isn't. You are the confused one, the one missing the reality and facts of the matter. You are the bigoted, ignorant idiot who can't seem to get it through that thick skull with the minute brain, that what two homosexuals do with their lives (get married, have sexual relations) has absolutely NO bearing on your life at all and is none of your business.<quoted text>

You are a failure at marriage. You have no qualification to dictate what marriage is or is not.

How sad is it that your definition dumbs down marriage to "two people in a relationship"???

You not only don't qualify for a letter, you don't qualify for a marriage license!

[Anonymous]

God exists just as as Santa Claus does, in people's minds, no where else, therefore there is no sin!

[fungirlinluv]

KiMare wrote:

<quoted text>
As to historical response to gays, you need to do your own study if you are unaware.
As to my beliefs, I don't debate faith, I debate reality. I was simply responding to a highly inaccurate and stupid statement about the Bible.
Your question to me shows you have picked up a gay talking point that only exposes your lack of knowledge about the Hebrew faith and theology.
I have said numerous times on here, I am a redeemed cynic who remains barbarian.

i am aware of historical response to gays, but 1) to say every single culture is a pretty broad statement to make without any substantiation, other than a do your own study, and 2) historical persecution of a group does not make it right to discriminate.

A "gay" talking point? Funny- I'm not gay myself - can I still make gay talking points? Sure - but you haven't even attempted to answer my questions have you? I don't consider your "you know nothing" a substantive response. If you seem to know so much about Hebrew faith and theology and about ALL cultures, why not enlighten us, instead of just resorting to telling people what they know or don't know.

so - good for you? i could care less if you are a barbarian. what do you want, a cookie?

[fungirlinluv]

KiMare wrote:

<quoted text>
You are a failure at marriage. You have no qualification to dictate what marriage is or is not.
How sad is it that your definition dumbs down marriage to "two people in a relationship"???
You not only don't qualify for a letter, you don't qualify for a marriage license!

and what are your qualifications for dictating what marriage or is not. marriage is a legal entity that confers tax and legal benefits on to the couple not otherwise available.

DOMA is federal legislation which a Massachusetts district court (with a heavily Republican appointed panel) just found unconstitutional.

[JDubbizback]

KiMare wrote:

KiMare wrote:<quoted text>
Aside from any truly sincere Christian disagreeing with you, every single culture and religion does too.
The common human view about homosexual sex is against nature, immoral, harmful and degrading to name a few of the more mild views.
Do you have a explanation why that is?
I know you do, I'd just love to see where you go with it.
No premise at all. You know that.
The most agreed percentage is that 4% of the population is GLBT. Only about half of those would seek SS partners.
-That percentage in those various categories indicate a genetic disorder. Transgendered even agree.
-Of course SS orientation causes the attraction. What you fail to address is the physical conflict that attraction encounters.
My point is clear;
Roadrunner wrote:
"The Bible says nothing specifically about the word HOMOSEXUALITY. People have simply misinterpreted what the Bible says."
-Of course the Bible didn't use the word homosexuality. It wasn't written in English.
-A vast majority of people who have STUDIED the Bible have a consistent and common understanding of sexual immorality and that homosexual sex is wrong.
-That is not just the view of sincere Christians, it is the consistent view of cultures and religions!
I asked why humanity holds that view.
You jumped in, ignored RR's blatant mis-characterization and brushed my question aside and inserted more false assertions.
I responded and corrected your mis-information.
You ignored that and restated one false assertion (gay unions have every opportunity and have in places, to obtain legitimate rights).
What is clear, is that you have avoided my points because you have no logical response. You have parroted a gay talking point twirl without using logic and truth.
All this points out your denial and enablement once again.
<quoted text>
You are such a wonderful idiot it's utterly pathetic... Get a life and stop trying to force your stupidity on others.
If you read and comprehend what I posted, you will find I responded to one of your fellow idiots who made a stupid statement about Christianity. No surprise you would join her.
Hardly "forcing my beliefs on others", especially since you don't know what my beliefs are. In fact, I'm the one using evolution and social science here. You want to debate faith!
The reality is, there is not a single person on here that can claim my perspective; a lesbian trapped in a straight man's body.
In spite of that advantage, my responses here are simply a unrelenting grip on reality. Your gay twirling and hissy fits won't stop that.

Hey, the one who retaliates back with no experience is the idiot.... and that would be you talking outta your ass.

[JDubbizback]

KiMare wrote:

KiMare wrote:<quoted text>
Aside from any truly sincere Christian disagreeing with you, every single culture and religion does too.
The common human view about homosexual sex is against nature, immoral, harmful and degrading to name a few of the more mild views.
Do you have a explanation why that is?
I know you do, I'd just love to see where you go with it.
No premise at all. You know that.
The most agreed percentage is that 4% of the population is GLBT. Only about half of those would seek SS partners.
-That percentage in those various categories indicate a genetic disorder. Transgendered even agree.
-Of course SS orientation causes the attraction. What you fail to address is the physical conflict that attraction encounters.
My point is clear;
Roadrunner wrote:
"The Bible says nothing specifically about the word HOMOSEXUALITY. People have simply misinterpreted what the Bible says."
-Of course the Bible didn't use the word homosexuality. It wasn't written in English.
-A vast majority of people who have STUDIED the Bible have a consistent and common understanding of sexual immorality and that homosexual sex is wrong.
-That is not just the view of sincere Christians, it is the consistent view of cultures and religions!
I asked why humanity holds that view.
You jumped in, ignored RR's blatant mis-characterization and brushed my question aside and inserted more false assertions.
I responded and corrected your mis-information.
You ignored that and restated one false assertion (gay unions have every opportunity and have in places, to obtain legitimate rights).
What is clear, is that you have avoided my points because you have no logical response. You have parroted a gay talking point twirl without using logic and truth.
All this points out your denial and enablement once again.
<quoted text>
You are such a wonderful idiot it's utterly pathetic... Get a life and stop trying to force your stupidity on others.
If you read and comprehend what I posted, you will find I responded to one of your fellow idiots who made a stupid statement about Christianity. No surprise you would join her.
Hardly "forcing my beliefs on others", especially since you don't know what my beliefs are. In fact, I'm the one using evolution and social science here. You want to debate faith!
The reality is, there is not a single person on here that can claim my perspective; a lesbian trapped in a straight man's body.
In spite of that advantage, my responses here are simply a unrelenting grip on reality. Your gay twirling and hissy fits won't stop that.

BTW I already explained your theory of a lesbian in a mans body you moron.. I specifically said that this defines a transexual. A guy who is feminine and likes to dress as a female becasue he likes other guys but at the same time is very feminine(and does have control over what he wears and how he acts. In other words he just has a more feminine side that he wants to express. You are such a moron that you do't even pay attention to majority of the posts on this forum before you decide to retaliate. And I don't have to preach anything and I don't create followers. All these people on here can speak for themselves because they live and experience what you have absolutely no experience in. Faith or evolution and science, it has already been scientifically proven that homosexuals are born the way they are. You need to educate yourself better and watch nat geo and discovery more often. Your such a dope, I don't need to waste anymore of my time on your ignorance. The last thing I have to say is don't say I didn't tell you when someone in your family turns out to be gay and then states all the same facts as I have... then your going to have to hear it from your own flesh and blood and not some outsider. It will happen and when it does I'm going to laugh my ass off because there not going to put up with your bs either.

[JDubbizback]

KiMare wrote:

<quoted text>
You are a failure at marriage. You have no qualification to dictate what marriage is or is not.
How sad is it that your definition dumbs down marriage to "two people in a relationship"???
You not only don't qualify for a letter, you don't qualify for a marriage license!

BTW I already explained your theory of a lesbian in a mans body you moron.. I specifically said that this defines a transexual. A guy who is feminine and likes to dress as a female becasue he likes other guys but at the same time is very feminine(and does have control over what he wears and how he acts. In other words he just has a more feminine side that he wants to express. You are such a moron that you do't even pay attention to majority of the posts on this forum before you decide to retaliate. And I don't have to preach anything and I don't create followers. All these people on here can speak for themselves because they live and experience what you have absolutely no experience in. Faith or evolution and science, it has already been scientifically proven that homosexuals are born the way they are. You need to educate yourself better and watch nat geo and discovery more often. Your such a dope, I don't need to waste anymore of my time on your ignorance. The last thing I have to say is don't say I didn't tell you when someone in your family turns out to be gay and then states all the same facts as I have... then your going to have to hear it from your own flesh and blood and not some outsider. It will happen and when it does I'm going to laugh my ass off because there not going to put up with your bs either.Oh, and I ASSURE YOU, there is way more than 4% of the population that is gay because there all in the closet because of dumb asses like yourself.

[JDubbizback]

@ KiMare'a- and if your referring to yourself as "a lesbian in a man's body" then you are experiencing "gender confusion" and that's your problem.

[JDubbizback]

@ KiMare'a- A lesbian in a man's body is just a phrase that is used as a mockery to homosexuals and that's a fact. So that blows your theory straight to hell, right where you belong, and if you want to talk about science and evolution, then that puts you at the bottom of the food chain for being extremely ignorant, biased, and stupid all in one.

[Adam]

LuLu Ford wrote:

Bob is obsessed with gay sex. Must be a closet queen.

LuLu you stupid.Why are you so defensive regarding gay sex? Do you like this shame? Why are you telling people they should continue their sinful homosexual lifestyle?

[Roadrunner]

Homosexuals don't "act" gay. They ARE gay. You are sick and disgusting. And human kind in general is full of disease and death.

Bob wrote:

To Roadrunner.
Acting gay is a filthy lifestyle. Its totally sick and discusting. Sick, sick, sick. Its full of diseases and death.
Gay = EVIL.

[Bob]

Acting gay is filthy and discusting. Anything , even slightly gay is evil. Inside their homosexual shame is so deep that they must have a little gay shame parade to make themselves feel better. When a person chooses to act gay , then they are chosing to be an abomination.

Gay = Evil !

Toal GAY SHAME.

[Bob]

The GAY SHAME parade !

Total GAY shame.

The Chicago Department of Public Health reported that the percentage of Chicago AIDS diagnoses connected to homo/bisexual men increased from 37% in year 2000 to 44% in 2003; and in mid-2006 it also reported that homo/bisexual men accounted for approximately 73% of Chicago syphilis cases for the year 2005. And a September 2010 report from the Centers for Disease Control titled "HIV among Gay, Bisexual and Other Men Who Have Sex with Men (MSM)" noted: "Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM) represent approximately 2% of the US population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV and are the only risk group in which new HIV infections have been increasing steadily since the early 1990s....At the end of 2006, more than half (53%) of all people living with HIV in the United States were MSM or MSM-IDU [injection drug user]." And according to a CDC report released in November 2009, 63% of syphilis cases in this country were found in homo/bisexuals in 2008.

Gay = Got AIDS Yet ?

[Bob]

The GAY SHAME parade.

Part II

More than 80% of AIDS cases in Canada are among homosexual or bisexual males; other diseases suffered either exclusively, or in larger percentages by the homosexual population, include: anal cancer, chlamydia trachomatis, cryptosporidium, giardia lamblia, herpes simplex virus, HPV, gonorrhea, viral hepatitis B and C, and syphili