Survivor cites fasting, pressure at s...

Survivor cites fasting, pressure at sweat lodge

There are 6 comments on the USA Today story from Oct 21, 2009, titled Survivor cites fasting, pressure at sweat lodge. In it, USA Today reports that:

The leader of a Sedona , Ariz.-area sweat-lodge ceremony that left three people dead nearly two weeks ago had encouraged participants to fight through the pain brought on by the extreme heat in order to achieve a higher level of consciousness, said an attorney for a southern Arizona woman who survived the ordeal.

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Cottonwood, AZ

#1 Oct 21, 2009


If Adolf Hiltler had been properly prosecuted, then the history of the world would have been a lot different.


A Dream Like Mine

Toronto, Canada

#2 Oct 22, 2009
was a Book for the movie that filmed the 1st 12 person or less Sweat Lodge Ceremony ever allowed

Clearcut (1992)
August 21, 1992
Review/Film; Loggers And Indians At War
Jason Lee

Brook, IN

#4 Oct 22, 2009
just heard on the radio that:

- he had them sweat for two hours straight;


- he actually had them fast without food OR WATER for 36 hours before then.

This is sounding less like negligence and more like murder all the time!

And here's the best part:

Ray had a conference call with the survivors where he told them he had a medium contact the victims and they reported back that they were happy that they're dead.

So apparently everything is now cool.
Jason Lee

Brook, IN

#6 Oct 22, 2009
Really Skeptical wrote:
Some people are better off dead.
Hopefully this "Guru Idiot" will be in so much trouble that HE'D be "better off dead".

Since: Oct 09

San Diego, CA

#8 Oct 22, 2009
Guru, James Arthur Ray says that although he feels the pain of the victims' families, the sweat lodge deaths will not stop his wealth-building programs from continuing.

Fred Newsome,
CSN Team

Newport, OR

#9 Oct 29, 2009
It's amazing to read this article. 2 years ago i was in a sweat lodge, we were birthing our drums we had made.. i didnt' know anything about the process, but here's what concerns me.. i ask the lady in charge of the sweat,"what is the protocal for leaving if it gets to hot... she said" we have ways of dealing with that don't worry"... after the first round i ask to leave and she says" what are you afraid of???????" pissed me off, I told her i had been in emergency room twice for heat stroke, she said "well we have never had a problem and if you get to hot just lay down on the ground... She also told me i had a lot of resistance... that pissed me off too... I did stay but i am still so mad at myself for not listening to my heart and i knew better.... She says"You want to be with your friends to birth your drum. THis reminded me of school... Long story short i was a very sick lady and it took me a good week to recover and then i started having mini strokes.. i was a very healthy person no meds at all for 59 and in good shape. The DR.s were surprised i had a stroke as i didn't fit any of the criteria. WE were in the lodge a total of 4 hrs...I wanted to write this women and tell her she needs to listen to the people she is having in the lodge and i didn't do it... i will now as it could save someones life... shame on me

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