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Since: Jun 07

Planet Earth

#3849 Jan 30, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Why is that a fatal mistake?
You have an unverified mish mash collection of ancient myths that any serious scholar can see are borrowed from other older unproven myths and use it as a solid base from which to prove your points.

The Christ is borrowed from Mithras plus a few others, Christmas and Easter come from older Paganism.

When one culture meets another, their social customs and traditions mix to form a slightly new culture that most consider the best of both. Look at America, our ancestors came here from all sorts of places (my own heritage is German, Irish, Italian, British and Dutch...IOW Heinz 57) and learned to mix and mingle. Religion has also mixed and mingled down through the years.

The Puritans, Shakers and other various cults didn't fare so well. The Catholic Church has held it's own....so far. The Protestants are still with us and all are arguing with each other....all of this from one book.....hmmmm, a good souce? I think not.

Let's face it, if this was Saudi Arabia, you would be quoting the Koran. Now, tell me why your flavor of kool-aid is any better/worse than any other.

“Exercise Your Brain”

Since: Jun 07

Planet Earth

#3850 Jan 30, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Thats it Squire of Gothos, very good.
Do you remember the name of the race that put Kirk on the planet with the GORN to do battle? I can't remember!! GORN the lizard guy!!!
Oh yes, the prelude to McGiver, lol. The Metrons (advanced race) pitted Kirk and the Gorn Captain in "Arena."
Faith is Amoral

Granby, CT

#3851 Jan 31, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
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if you are not able to know language of universe,
then you are to stupid to know about gravity or black holes
rather you are not black hole,only a.....hole
You just never grew up and stopped playing make believe.

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#3852 Jan 31, 2013
albtraum wrote:
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Oh yes, the prelude to McGiver, lol. The Metrons (advanced race) pitted Kirk and the Gorn Captain in "Arena."
*bows*

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#3853 Jan 31, 2013
albtraum wrote:
You have an unverified mish mash collection of ancient myths that any serious scholar can see are borrowed from other older unproven myths and use it as a solid base from which to prove your points.
The Christ is borrowed from Mithras plus a few others, Christmas and Easter come from older Paganism.
Yes, I've heard those theories before. But there are completely unsubstantiated.

Christmas was not "taken" from pagans, the date was.
When one culture meets another, their social customs and traditions mix to form a slightly new culture that most consider the best of both. Look at America, our ancestors came here from all sorts of places (my own heritage is German, Irish, Italian, British and Dutch...IOW Heinz 57) and learned to mix and mingle. Religion has also mixed and mingled down through the years.
You're comparing religion to nationalism?

odd...

My heritage is American.
The Puritans, Shakers and other various cults didn't fare so well. The Catholic Church has held it's own....so far. The Protestants are still with us and all are arguing with each other....all of this from one book.....hmmmm, a good souce? I think not.


Yes, it's a fantastic source. It's a historic compilation of many people and many stories with one key element to share - worship God.

There are no flaws, no contradictions & no errors, despite what atheist propaganda sites will tell you.
Let's face it, if this was Saudi Arabia, you would be quoting the Koran. Now, tell me why your flavor of kool-aid is any better/worse than any other.
You don't kow that. There's over a million Christians in Saudi Arabia right now...

There are no "flavors" of Christianity. It is what it is. So there is no better or worse about it. When there is only one God, He can't be better or worse than Himself.
Faith is Amoral

Granby, CT

#3854 Jan 31, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yes, I've heard those theories before. But there are completely unsubstantiated.
Christmas was not "taken" from pagans, the date was.
<quoted text>
You're comparing religion to nationalism?
odd...
My heritage is American.
<quoted text>
Yes, it's a fantastic source. It's a historic compilation of many people and many stories with one key element to share - worship God.
There are no flaws, no contradictions & no errors, despite what atheist propaganda sites will tell you.
<quoted text>
You don't kow that. There's over a million Christians in Saudi Arabia right now...
There are no "flavors" of Christianity. It is what it is. So there is no better or worse about it. When there is only one God, He can't be better or worse than Himself.
Your entire world view is unsubstantiated. I'm really starting to feel sorry for you pathetic godbots. It's very unfair that so many of you were born with such limited mental powers.

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#3855 Jan 31, 2013
Faith is Amoral wrote:
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Your entire world view is unsubstantiated. I'm really starting to feel sorry for you pathetic godbots. It's very unfair that so many of you were born with such limited mental powers.
OK
Tony

Los Angeles, CA

#3856 Jan 31, 2013
"For the LORD God is a sun and shield; the LORD bestows favor and honor; no good thing does he withhold from those whose walk is blameless."

—Psalm 84:11
Religion is Fraud

Granby, CT

#3857 Jan 31, 2013
Tony wrote:
"For the LORD God is a sun and shield; the LORD bestows favor and honor; no good thing does he withhold from those whose walk is blameless."
—Psalm 84:11
It's easier for the eye of a rich man to pass through a camel than for a needle to enter heaven. Psalm 22:11

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#3858 Jan 31, 2013
Religion is Fraud wrote:
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It's easier for the eye of a rich man to pass through a camel than for a needle to enter heaven. Psalm 22:11
Liar

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...

11 Do not be far from me,
for trouble is near
and there is no one to help.

“Exercise Your Brain”

Since: Jun 07

Planet Earth

#3859 Jan 31, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yes, I've heard those theories before. But there are completely unsubstantiated.
Christmas was not "taken" from pagans, the date was.
<quoted text>
You're comparing religion to nationalism?
odd...
My heritage is American.
<quoted text>
Yes, it's a fantastic source. It's a historic compilation of many people and many stories with one key element to share - worship God.
There are no flaws, no contradictions & no errors, despite what atheist propaganda sites will tell you.
<quoted text>
You don't kow that. There's over a million Christians in Saudi Arabia right now...
There are no "flavors" of Christianity. It is what it is. So there is no better or worse about it. When there is only one God, He can't be better or worse than Himself.
1.Define completely unsubstantiated, these religions are part of history.

2. Not only the date but the idea of virgin birth.

3. If you're speaking of nationalism in the sense of being patriotic, no. If you're speaking about people of different nationalities learning to get along together, yes. There is a melting pot of cultural and religious ideas.

4. Unless you're an indiginous American Indian, this is not your heratage. Look up the word heritage for disambiguation.

5. It's a compilation of people and stories, period.

6. I don't need an atheist site to find the flaws, contradictions and errors.

7. Says who? Cite your source....not a theistic propoganda source either.

8. There are over 41,000 flavors of Christianity alone worldwide, that does not take into account other types of religions.

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#3860 Jan 31, 2013
albtraum wrote:
1.Define completely unsubstantiated , these religions are part of history.
Totally not supported or proven.
2. Not only the date but the idea of virgin birth.
Yes, I've heard that atheist myth. But it is also totally not supported or proven.
3. If you're speaking of nationalism in the sense of being patriotic, no. If you're speaking about people of different nationalities learning to get along together, yes. There is a melting pot of cultural and religious ideas.
Agreed. I think it's a good thing.
4. Unless you're an indiginous American Indian, this is not your heratage. Look up the word heritage for disambiguation.
heritage: valued objects and qualities such as cultural traditions, unspoiled countryside and historic buildings that have been passed down from previous generations.

I am American. My family has been here for at least 5 generations. How far back does one need to go for heritage....

All of my traditions that have been passed down to me are American.

Don't give me the Indian crap. They weren't American until they were forced to be.
5. It's a compilation of people and stories, period.
There's much more to the Bible than that. You seem uneducated of that fact.
6. I don't need an atheist site to find the flaws, contradictions and errors.
Yes you do.
7. Says who? Cite your source....not a theistic propoganda source either.
Says honesty. There are literally millions of sources.
8. There are over 41,000 flavors of Christianity alone worldwide, that does not take into account other types of religions.
So. Baskin Robbin's has 31 flavored and they're all good.

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#3861 Jan 31, 2013
Tony wrote:
"For the LORD God is a sun and shield; the LORD bestows favor and honor; no good thing does he withhold from those whose walk is blameless."
—Psalm 84:11
How convenient that Yahwah doesn't have to bestow favor or honor or any good thing...because haven't "all fallen short of the glory ya-da ya-da ya-da?"
Promises with a loophole you could drive a tank through.
Imagine that....
Spending all your time trying to be "blameless" only to be told in another chapter that you will NEVER be that good.
Religion is Fraud

Granby, CT

#3862 Feb 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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So. Baskin Robbin's has 31 flavored and they're all good.
The fact that you find them all "good" misses the point professor. Are they all correct is the question. Opps, I forgot, honesty is irrelevant to the morally challenged death denier.

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#3863 Feb 1, 2013
Religion is Fraud wrote:
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The fact that you find them all "good" misses the point professor. Are they all correct is the question. Opps, I forgot, honesty is irrelevant to the morally challenged death denier.
You must be asking someone else that question because I don't deny death......
Religion is Fraud

Granby, CT

#3864 Feb 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
You must be asking someone else that question because I don't deny death......
Then you are not a christian.
I believe in miracles

Coffeyville, KS

#3865 Feb 1, 2013
So why do those that don't believe even care about other people and if they believe or not? I have had doctors tell me that those with faith and a belief in a "higher power" tend to do better healing and overcoming illness. It doesn't matter if it's "real" or not as long as it makes people strive to be better than it's a good thing weither or not others believe in God.

I believe in miracles but I didn't until we received one. It isn't just that we as a family believe it was one, the surgeon and nurses involved do as well and I don't know their religious beliefs or even if they have them. But I know that in front of a crowd of family and friends a specialist came out of surgery from removing a brain tumor that was located inside of cyst on my daughter's brain said he could not explain any of it. He held his hands open and said "I don't know what happened, it was as if we opened her head and it just delivered itself into my hands."
Now this was after we had been told that the surgery itself would take a minimum of 4 hours and could take up to 24. They came out in two hours and said she was done and heading to recovery. After being told that she may have to learn everything all over, walking, talking, reading and writing, feeding herself, everything, and that people that have any kind of surgery on their brain or heart can experience complete transition in personality so we may have to deal with that too, and all of that just if she survived! Our daughter talked as clear as ever in recovery. She didn't have to learn anything over again. She did in fact experience some personality changes but they were minimul compared to what she could have had.
Now people can believe anything they want about why it happened they way it did but why on Earth does our belief that our prayers were answered and we received a miracle bother anyone else and why should it?
I just don't understand all these post and topics about this subject. Why do people care if others do or do not believe in God and miracles if it doesn't effect you? I'm not religious and I don't attend church. I seldom ever prayed in my life and when I did I rarely got my on knees to do it. I have to admit the one thing I did different with prayers for my daughter was that in all my prayers in the past I had tried to makes deals with God. You know, like if God did this or that for me I would stop cussing, stop smoking, go to church, whatever I could think of to make a deal. Silly I know but it's what I did. The night before my daughter's surgery I prayed and I didn't try to deal at all. I was at the lowest point in my life and I just told God I had nothing to give or offer for a deal. All I had at that time was my love for my daughter and I just told God that no matter what, I would take my daughter in any condition and I would spend my life taking care of her if she was too survive. I prayed that his will be done and I just told him I was willing to accept it but I just wanted him to know that no matter what condition my daughter might be in, I would accept it and take care of her as long as I could have her and take her home with me.
My daugher recovered very quickly and to this day you would never even know she had the surgery or the tumor and cyst at all. The only damage she still has is some permanet nerve damage in her right eye due to the cyst growing so big that it grew out of the cerribellm area and into the area of the brain that effects your eyesight.
Now how does the miracle I believe we received and always will believe it, bother anyone else or effect your life in anyway?
It just seems this is a subject that peole talk about only for the oppurtunity to trash each other. What a waste of your time.
Religion is Fraud

Granby, CT

#3866 Feb 1, 2013
I believe in miracles wrote:
So why do those that don't believe even care about other people and if they believe or not? I have had doctors tell me that those with faith and a belief in a "higher power" tend to do better healing and overcoming illness. It doesn't matter if it's "real" or not as long as it makes people strive to be better than it's a good thing weither or not others believe in God.
I believe in miracles but I didn't until we received one. It isn't just that we as a family believe it was one, the surgeon and nurses involved do as well and I don't know their religious beliefs or even if they have them. But I know that in front of a crowd of family and friends a specialist came out of surgery from removing a brain tumor that was located inside of cyst on my daughter's brain said he could not explain any of it. He held his hands open and said "I don't know what happened, it was as if we opened her head and it just delivered itself into my hands."
Now this was after we had been told that the surgery itself would take a minimum of 4 hours and could take up to 24. They came out in two hours and said she was done and heading to recovery. After being told that she may have to learn everything all over, walking, talking, reading and writing, feeding herself, everything, and that people that have any kind of surgery on their brain or heart can experience complete transition in personality so we may have to deal with that too, and all of that just if she survived! Our daughter talked as clear as ever in recovery. She didn't have to learn anything over again. She did in fact experience some personality changes but they were minimul compared to what she could have had.
Now people can believe anything they want about why it happened they way it did but why on Earth does our belief that our prayers were answered and we received a miracle bother anyone else and why should it?
I just don't understand all these post and topics about this subject. Why do people care if others do or do not believe in God and miracles if it doesn't effect you? I'm not religious and I don't attend church. I seldom ever prayed in my life and when I did I rarely got my on knees to do it. I have to admit the one thing I did different with prayers for my daughter was that in all my prayers in the past I had tried to makes deals with God. You know, like if God did this or that for me I would stop cussing, stop smoking, go to church, whatever I could think of to make a deal. Silly I know but it's what I did. The night before my daughter's surgery I prayed and I didn't try to deal at all. I was at the lowest point in my life and I just told God I had nothing to give or offer for a deal. All I had at that time was my love for my daughter and I just told God that no matter what, I would take my daughter in any condition and I would spend my life taking care of her if she was too survive. I prayed that his will be done and I just told him I was willing to accept it but I just wanted him to know that no matter what condition my daughter might be in, I would accept it and take care of her as long as I could have her and take her home with me.
My daugher recovered very quickly and to this day you would never even know she had the surgery or the tumor and cyst at all. The only damage she still has is some permanet nerve damage in her right eye due to the cyst growing so big that it grew out of the cerribellm area and into the area of the brain that effects your eyesight.
Now how does the miracle I believe we received and always will believe it, bother anyone else or effect your life in anyway?
It just seems this is a subject that peole talk about only for the oppurtunity to trash each other. What a waste of your time.
"It doesn't matter if it's "real" or not .."

Say the morally challenged theist who has no concern for at all for honesty or the truth. People with integrity reject blind dishonest faith.

Since: Jul 12

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#3867 Feb 1, 2013
Religion is Fraud wrote:
<quoted text>
Then you are not a christian.
OK, troll.

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Since: Jun 07

Planet Earth

#3868 Feb 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You must be asking someone else that question because I don't deny death......
Yes you do....you want eternal life, that's the big hook of religion.

Paradise, whether it's heaven, the happy hunting grounds, or someplace with 72 bashful virgins awaiting you....it's a loophole to avoid death.

You think that 'only' the body dies and you'll be reborn....sorry, wishing doesn't make it so.

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