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RiversideRedneck

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#3648 Jan 21, 2013
Pat wrote:
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Says the fool who thinks he knows what an agnostic is.
An agnostic is a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena.

RiversideRedneck

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#3649 Jan 21, 2013
Pat wrote:
A dead corpse? LOL Is there such thing as a living corpse? That's what you believe in, right? You live after you die? Produce your living corpse or sit down, liar.
Ok, so I made a grammatical error.

Ahem

In what way do you think a corpse proves that there is no heaven or hell?

Better, bitch?

Can't answer the question?

Because usually when one resorts to fixing typos & errors, they have no argument left.
Pat

East Granby, CT

#3650 Jan 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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An agnostic is a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena.
Yes, that is exactly what I said it means, knowledge of god is unknown or unknowable. Which means it does not even speak to the matter of whether or not the agnostic believes in god. An agnostic can be an agnostic and still choose to believe in god through faith like any other theist or the agnostic can lack belief and be an atheist. Either way, all agnostics are still either theists or atheists, for there is no possible third position one can hold with regards to belief in god. You either possess a belief in god or you do not.
Pat

East Granby, CT

#3651 Jan 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ok, so I made a grammatical error.
Ahem
In what way do you think a corpse proves that there is no heaven or hell?
Better, bitch?
Can't answer the question?
Because usually when one resorts to fixing typos & errors, they have no argument left.
Why can't you ever learn? Why do you keep using the same flawed bassakwards reasoning post after post? I can no more disprove your imaginary soul than I can your imaginary god. The burden is on you to show that a corpse does not represent what it so plainly represnts, not me. The burden is on you to show how awareness is not brain function and that it can survive absent a body. Don't put your foolish burdens on me. If you want to argue magic is real then you prove magic is real.

RiversideRedneck

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#3652 Jan 21, 2013
Pat wrote:
Yes, that is exactly what I said it means, knowledge of god is unknown or unknowable. Which means {{{SCREEEEEECH!!!}}}
An atheist, a true atheist, wouldn't even entertain that idea, they believe there no god(s) to know or not know.

Agnostics are quite different than atheists.

RiversideRedneck

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#3653 Jan 21, 2013
Pat wrote:
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Why can't you ever learn? Why do you keep using the same flawed bassakwards reasoning post after post? I can no more disprove your imaginary soul than I can your imaginary god. The burden is on you to show that a corpse does not represent what it so plainly represnts, not me. The burden is on you to show how awareness is not brain function and that it can survive absent a body. Don't put your foolish burdens on me. If you want to argue magic is real then you prove magic is real.
You're mistaken.

I have no burden to prove anything to you.

Either you believe or you don't.

That's your issue, not mine.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#3654 Jan 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I guess it depends on who you are, what you like & what you consider "happy".
It also depends on what website you're looking at, obviously.
This shows US at #9
www.mapsofworld.com › World Top Ten
#6
able2know.org/topic/55762-1
#7
internationalliving.com › Further-Resources
I discovered that of these three site you listed, only one deals with the quality of life issues and only the last trumpets the U.S. as being one of the countries with outstanding qualities of life issues. The first site is called Maps Of The World, no categories for anything. The second site was a reply form an individual "Stray Cat" and even his list puts the Atheist countries like Norway and Sweden well above the U.S. Talk about dishonesty!!!
Anon

Cleveland, OH

#3655 Jan 21, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>I discovered that of these three site you listed, only one deals with the quality of life issues and only the last trumpets the U.S. as being one of the countries with outstanding qualities of life issues. The first site is called Maps Of The World, no categories for anything. The second site was a reply form an individual "Stray Cat" and even his list puts the Atheist countries like Norway and Sweden well above the U.S. Talk about dishonesty!!!
The second one is from 2003-2004.
Pat

East Granby, CT

#3656 Jan 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You're mistaken.
I have no burden to prove anything to you.
Either you believe or you don't.
That's your issue, not mine.
You are mistaken for you ased this foolish question "In what way do you think a corpse proves that there is no heaven or hell?"
Pat

East Granby, CT

#3657 Jan 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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An atheist, a true atheist, wouldn't even entertain that idea, they believe there no god(s) to know or not know.
Agnostics are quite different than atheists.
So now you operate the atheist control tower and are the authority on what a true atheist is? You are a buffoon.

"Agnostics are quite different than atheists."

I'm an agnostic and an atheist. Stop defending your ignorance.
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#3658 Jan 21, 2013
Anon wrote:
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The second one is from 2003-2004.
Anon
do you still believe that Honolulu is going to be capitol for Jesus Christ and His next goverment

it look like that sneaky obama want to cheat God and stick in secrecy in his hawaii home to the ranks of holy ones living of this island made from volcanos lava

guy behaves and making eyes and faces like creature avove all humankind-and god alone

similarity was with Ceasar Cludius
during his sleep,he woke up as human god and kill with sword own babe in the womb of his wife

his fear was that his own babe will reap him out to be god reincarnated as Ceasar

what is on the mind of Obama,
we will know,time will reveal us his intentions to be god and born black jesus

“Exercise Your Brain”

Since: Jun 07

Planet Earth

#3659 Jan 21, 2013
Pat wrote:
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I hear you. I still think that deep down every theist knows they are living a lie no different than every drunk knows they are an alcoholic even though they too so often will not admit to it.
We understand each other OK. I think we only disagree on the matter of self awareness.

Lol...I don't believe there's life on Pluto, but who can be sure? There may be life forms that we cannot imagine. I DO think there is life elsewhere in the universe....but have no proof. The odds that this planet is just a bizarre and isolated occurance seems small to me. But again, I wouldn't take a stand on either side.

I have read tracts from Jehovah's Witnesses that we HAVE to be the only life in the universe because their deity made us especially so, etc., etc. I have to wonder why anyone has to make a stand one way or the other on this subject. They claim the answers are in the bible....oh well, it takes all kinds.

“Exercise Your Brain”

Since: Jun 07

Planet Earth

#3660 Jan 21, 2013
Pat wrote:
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Excellent post. What people like RR fail to understand is that if a corpse can not be considered conclusive proof that death ends personal memory and awareness then NOTHING that we know of could ever be considered as proven. Everything would still be subject to debate and no evidence would ever serve as actual evidence. It's a delusional world of anything goes and it simply doens't work. There could not possibly be any more conclusive proof that death ends personal memory and awareness than a corpse.
TY;0)
Pat

East Granby, CT

#3662 Jan 22, 2013
albtraum wrote:
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We understand each other OK. I think we only disagree on the matter of self awareness.
Lol...I don't believe there's life on Pluto, but who can be sure? There may be life forms that we cannot imagine. I DO think there is life elsewhere in the universe....but have no proof. The odds that this planet is just a bizarre and isolated occurance seems small to me. But again, I wouldn't take a stand on either side.
I have read tracts from Jehovah's Witnesses that we HAVE to be the only life in the universe because their deity made us especially so, etc., etc. I have to wonder why anyone has to make a stand one way or the other on this subject. They claim the answers are in the bible....oh well, it takes all kinds.
I also don't believe in life on Pluto but that does not mean I believe there is no life on Pluto. Like you said, who knows? Any opinion either way at this point in time is very premature.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#3663 Jan 22, 2013
albtraum wrote:
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We understand each other OK. I think we only disagree on the matter of self awareness.
Lol...I don't believe there's life on Pluto, but who can be sure? There may be life forms that we cannot imagine. I DO think there is life elsewhere in the universe....but have no proof. The odds that this planet is just a bizarre and isolated occurance seems small to me. But again, I wouldn't take a stand on either side.
I have read tracts from Jehovah's Witnesses that we HAVE to be the only life in the universe because their deity made us especially so, etc., etc. I have to wonder why anyone has to make a stand one way or the other on this subject. They claim the answers are in the bible....oh well, it takes all kinds.
As astrophysicist Neil Tyson says. "The ingredient for life is so common in the universe, the sheer numbers of suns and planetary systems so vast, it would be utterly foolish to assume that life only came to exist on this planet alone. With Hydrogen, Oxygen, Helium, Nitrogen and Carbon, the most abundant elements in the universe, and the fact that we as human contain the exact same ingredients, then life within the cosmos seems inevitable. The inevitable consequence of complex chemistry."

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#3664 Jan 22, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>I discovered that of these three site you listed, only one deals with the quality of life issues and only the last trumpets the U.S. as being one of the countries with outstanding qualities of life issues. The first site is called Maps Of The World, no categories for anything. The second site was a reply form an individual "Stray Cat" and even his list puts the Atheist countries like Norway and Sweden well above the U.S. Talk about dishonesty!!!
Atheist country like Norway? Where do you come up with this shit?

"Nominal religion in Norway is mostly Protestant with 78.9% of the population belonging to the state Evangelical Lutheran Church of Norway."

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_No...

"As of 2011, about 68.8% of Swedish citizens are members of the Church of Sweden"

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Sw...

I think this is why you never leave a link to back up your bullshit, because you're lying.

RiversideRedneck

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#3665 Jan 22, 2013
Pat wrote:
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You are mistaken for you ased this foolish question "In what way do you think a corpse proves that there is no heaven or hell?"
Oh ya, I forgot the atheist rules of debate....

You can ask or demand that I prove my beliefs.

I can't ask it demand the same from you.

My bad.

RiversideRedneck

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#3666 Jan 22, 2013
Pat wrote:
I'm an agnostic and an atheist. Stop defending your ignorance.
You're also a liar.

An atheist is a person that has no belief in the existence of a god or gods.

An agnostic is a person that has neither faith nor disbelief in a god or gods.

You cannot be both.

RiversideRedneck

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#3667 Jan 22, 2013
albtraum wrote:
I don't believe there's life on Pluto, but who can be sure? There may be life forms that we cannot imagine.
Say it isn't so!

An open-minded atheist!

WOW

RiversideRedneck

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#3668 Jan 22, 2013
Pat wrote:
I also don't believe in life on Pluto but that does not mean I believe there is no life on Pluto.
You could also say:

"I also don't believe in God but that does not mean I believe there is no God. "

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