God is REAL - Miracles Happen!
lanturnsandlight bulbs

Voorhees, NJ

#3400 Jan 5, 2013
people always complain about how boring heaven would have been..

that is the heaven YOU would have made..
lanturnsandlight bulbs

Voorhees, NJ

#3401 Jan 5, 2013
no all i'm saying is that.. I shouldna said that I should have just point out the fact that..

if God was perfect we wouldn't exist....
lanturnsandlight bulbs

Voorhees, NJ

#3402 Jan 5, 2013
I mean he is perfect but if he was.. never angry we would never exist..
lanturnsandlight bulbs

Voorhees, NJ

#3403 Jan 5, 2013
he created the scenario so he could make all this..

there is no real way to rationalize any of this..

so you should really just be atleast an agnostic i mean come on..
andet1987

Chicago, IL

#3404 Jan 5, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry you moonbat, miracles DO NOT HAPPEN. A dry spot o the sidewalk is not a miracles,.......holy shit what a dumbs. A delusion is when a person can't tell what is real from that only imagined. Personal experiences, anecdotal accounts do NOT count as evidence. If miracles were real science would have discovered them a long time ago. Your mind is sick, no wonder you think a dry spot on the ground is the work of your demon God. I suppose the face of Jesus in a peanut butter sandwich is also a miracle? Ha ha ha, what a frigin moonbat.
what a delusional person. God exists because he performs a lot of Miracles. the reason why you can not explain each miracle is, you are nothing compared to God. God is so powerful. stop being delusional by imagining that God does not exist.
SAL

Bratislava, Slovakia

#3405 Jan 5, 2013

Miracles have happened we are told by the witnesses who recorded the events in the Bible. We do not need miracles today to prove the biblical account of world history. Satan can do what many would consider a miracle.

The demon 'virgin mary'

www.babylonmysteryreligion.com/motherandchild...

http://toolong.com

http://biblelight.net/wheel.htm #

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#3406 Jan 6, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Are you really this stupid? REALLY? Humans have the SAME traits as God, means that GOD ALSO possesses these traits, right? So BOTH GOD and HUMANS have the same traits......meaning God has the same traits as humans........get it???!!!! No I didn't think so, logic really does seem to elude you, I wonder why that is?
It's you that's really this stupid and I'm getting tired of your arrogant stupidity.

What happens when a son is like his father?

Do you say "That boy is just like his dad."

OR

"That dad is just like his boy"

???

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#3407 Jan 6, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Of course I can, don't be a dolt. I can LACK a belief in God or Gods and be considered an Atheist. Further, I can have the position that ALL religions are dangerous and be an anti-theist. Now you're nitpicking, lets just say I am a critical thinker and refuse to believe anything without evidence. I'm a skeptic who doesn't believe in magic. Commonsense coupled with reason and logic dictate that the God of the bible is a manmade myth, and the thousands of other Gods fall under the same category. Ignorant bronze age goat herders wrote the bible, frightened old men who's fear of women is so very obvious. Barbaric rituals, slavery, rape, mass slaughter, genocide, the murders of innocent children and babies, you really want to insist that this is the face of God? Pitiful,really pitiful.
Common sense would tell you that common sense is two words.

Common sense would also tell you that an ignorant goat herder could not write a book such as the bible, or any book for that matter.

Common sense seems to elude you, critical thinker.
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#3408 Jan 6, 2013
lanturnsandlightbulbs wrote:
there is a science behind getting prayers answered..
involving not even fasting or prayer..
nor visualization ..
but controlling what is around you..
and who is around you..
and monitoring what you and other people are saying..
to steer the will of god into the direction of your desire..
that will make things happen for you based on the pride of god..
willing them into existence..
Here's a suggestion, try and condense your thoughts into three or four posts rather than hundreds of one liners. Also, we have no idea who you are responding to, that would help with the dialog.

There is ZERO science behead prayers, don't be stupid. MIRACLE------"A surprise and welcomed event that is NOT explicable by natural or SCIENTIFIC LAWS and is therefore considered to be the work of a divide agency."

I can very well control most of whats around me without a belief in a mythical being. I can make things happen based on my own pride, I don't need a magical being to do that for me.
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#3409 Jan 6, 2013
There is zero science BEHIND prayers.....Sorry, I type way to fast!!!!
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#3410 Jan 6, 2013
lanturnsandlightbulbs wrote:
common sense and logic do not dictate that the god of the bible was a myth because if it did everyone would be an atheist..
Everyone SHOULD be an Atheist, and yes common sense and logic DO tell those of us not brainwashed by religion that most of the events and people in the bible are myths. It also points very strongly at the contents of the bible being written by men. Specifically, Bronze age goat herders of that period.
andet1987

Chicago, IL

#3411 Jan 6, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Everyone SHOULD be an Atheist, and yes common sense and logic DO tell those of us not brainwashed by religion that most of the events and people in the bible are myths. It also points very strongly at the contents of the bible being written by men. Specifically, Bronze age goat herders of that period.
what do you know about the Bible ? all you read is Playgirl Magazine.

http://www.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2...

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#3412 Jan 6, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Everyone SHOULD be an Atheist,
You're a liberal, huh?

There's no good way unless its your way, right?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#3413 Jan 6, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
There is zero science BEHIND prayers.....Sorry, I type way to fast!!!!
And think too fast.

Google science of prayer, or something to that effect, you'll get about 15 million hits....

And don't do the fundie thing of: "science proves prayer."

And don't do the athitard thing of "science disproves prayer."

If you want an honest answer, you ask an honest question.....

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#3414 Jan 6, 2013
Me: I believe in God
Good Atheist: Really? that's interesting. I don't personally but I'd love to sit down with you and discuss the issue sometime

Me: I belive in God
blacklagoon: WHAT!!!?!? You belive in God?....hahahahaha I don't believe in God I have absolute faith in science because it's completley accurate and irrefutable!!!

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#3415 Jan 6, 2013
Bad Athiest: A self-involved, egotistical jackass who does not believe in a supreme being not because what they have read or studied but usually because they hate religion or religious people. They usually go out of there way to make religious people feel bad and accuse them of being close-minded while they, themselves, will not listen to any other arguments but there own. They are impossible to try to reason with because they are usually self-centered, condescending,unscientific, and downright immature. Their arguments are usually full of anti-religious cliches and therefore easy to break apart.
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#3416 Jan 6, 2013
lanturnsandlightbulbs wrote:
so you are saying God would be cooler if he created a perfect world.. and nobody went to hell.. right?? and never got angry at anyone..
and everyone just had random orgies all day forever..
and feelings of pleasure infinitely of the highest amount and nobody ever died??
And therefore I would never exist because my parents would never exist..
because Adam and Eve would be the only humans.. because it would not be in their favor to have kids in the first place since they are already sufficiently happy??
You're wrong on so many points here, I don't know were to start.

1.) "God would be cooler if he created a perfect world."..........Why would anyone assume that a being who is capable of creating the complexity of humans and the immeasurable cosmos, trillions upon trillions of galaxies, NOT be perfect? Here's where logic raises its adorable head. if your God is IMPERFECT, capable of making mistakes, the how can you believe anything about what you say he has created.

2.) "Nobody went to hell."..........There is ZERO evidence (yeah I know, scary word) that anything like hell exists.

3.) "And everyone just had random orgies all day forever."..........So it is your contention that the only things that prevents us from having random orgies is a belief in God? Really? So that MUST mean that anyone without a belief in a higher power is involved in random orgies all day forever? Are you sure you really want to imply something that stupid and shallow?

4.) Adam and Eve are myths, there is ZERO evidence that mankind sprang from two people, especially since the creation of the male came about by a mythical being scooping up some dirt and blowing on it. And we all know about yanking out one of his ribs to magically produce a female.

5.) "It would NOT be in their favor to have kids in the first place since they are sufficiently happy." So by your statement the only reason people have children is because they are UNHAPPY!!!! Can't you for one moment see how stupid and senseless your statement is?
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#3417 Jan 6, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Bad Athiest: A self-involved, egotistical jackass who does not believe in a supreme being not because what they have read or studied but usually because they hate religion or religious people. They usually go out of there way to make religious people feel bad and accuse them of being close-minded while they, themselves, will not listen to any other arguments but there own. They are impossible to try to reason with because they are usually self-centered, condescending,unscientific, and downright immature. Their arguments are usually full of anti-religious cliches and therefore easy to break apart.
You and I have gone round and round on this site for sometime now. Lots of insults hurled around, obvious frustrate on both of our parts. I do have a tendency to think to often in terms of absolutes. I really don't like dealing in absolutes, so I will give you this. I don't absolutely KNOW that God does not exist. He/she/it/ may very well exists somewhere at sometime. My position however is that until there is solid empirical evidence that such a being exists, I will continue to LACK a belief in such a being.

Having said that, I strongly believe that religion in general is dangerous. You have heard my reasoning many times, but I'll offer up these examples and see if we can't have a dialog. These are some of the reasons I believe religion to be a danger to our society.

1.) If organized Religion is anything it's divisive. It pigeon holes groups of people who hold opposing religious beliefs, and those who have no beliefs. It makes it almost impossible for people with different beliefs coexists in a meaningful manner. I can't possible be friends with someone that tells me that because I don't believe as they do, that I deserve to be tortured FOREVER.

2.) When you assume that Goddidit, then the search for the answer is over. Creationists turn their backs on well established scientific facts concerning evolution. "We, and everything living things were created by God." Which means look no further into the origin of our species, the journey is over before it begins. "I'm against religion because it teaches us to be content with not understanding the world around us."

Thats all I have for now!!!!

“Exercise Your Brain”

Since: Jun 07

Planet Earth

#3419 Jan 6, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you serious?
Never seen a pissed off dog?
A scared cat?
A jealous horse?
You need to get out more.
You never studied, did you?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#3422 Jan 6, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>You and I have gone round and round on this site for sometime now. Lots of insults hurled around, obvious frustrate on both of our parts. I do have a tendency to think to often in terms of absolutes. I really don't like dealing in absolutes, so I will give you this. I don't absolutely KNOW that God does not exist. He/she/it/ may very well exists somewhere at sometime. My position however is that until there is solid empirical evidence that such a being exists, I will continue to LACK a belief in such a being.
Having said that, I strongly believe that religion in general is dangerous. You have heard my reasoning many times, but I'll offer up these examples and see if we can't have a dialog. These are some of the reasons I believe religion to be a danger to our society.
1.) If organized Religion is anything it's divisive. It pigeon holes groups of people who hold opposing religious beliefs, and those who have no beliefs. It makes it almost impossible for people with different beliefs coexists in a meaningful manner. I can't possible be friends with someone that tells me that because I don't believe as they do, that I deserve to be tortured FOREVER.
2.) When you assume that Goddidit, then the search for the answer is over. Creationists turn their backs on well established scientific facts concerning evolution. "We, and everything living things were created by God." Which means look no further into the origin of our species, the journey is over before it begins. "I'm against religion because it teaches us to be content with not understanding the world around us."
Thats all I have for now!!!!
Wow. You CAN post a peaceful post.

You said "I don't absolutely KNOW that God does not exist." You aren't an atheist, you're agnostic. Maybe an agnostic atheist. It's good that you've opened up at least that much to admit there's a possibility of God - whether you believe it or not.

1. Organized religion is divisive by nature. There are many different religions that share different views & rules, even within Christianity. What we need to do is learn to get along with each other, regardless of what our personal views are.

2. I disagree. I think that when you believe "Goddidit", it leaves you wide open to search for the answer of HOW "Goddidit". There are many religious scientists that are on the same path to knowledge that non-religious scientists are.

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