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Since: Jul 08

USA

#23660 Feb 11, 2013
uidiotRaceMAkeWorldpeace wrote:
<quoted text>
As most of The US militia is infiltrated by KKK members... how is gthis good for a nation?
Carl Schurz, quotes about America:
If you want to be free, there is but one way; it is to guarantee an equally full measure of liberty to all your neighbors. There is no other.

George Bernard Shaw, quotes about America:
The American Constitution, one of the few modern political documents drawn up by men who were forced by the sternest circumstances to think out what they really had to face, instead of chopping logic in a university classroom.

Rev. Samuel Francis Smith, quotes about America:
My country,'tis of thee, Sweet land of liberty, Of thee I sing. Land where my fathers died! Land of the Pilgrims' pride! From ev'ry mountainside, Let freedom ring!

Tecumseh, quotes about America:
Live your life that the fear of death can never enter your heart. Trouble no one about his religion. Respect others in their views and demand that they respect yours. Love your life, perfect your life, beautify all things in your life. Seek to make your life long and of service to your people. Prepare a noble death song for the day when you go over the great divide. Always give a word or sign of salute when meeting or passing a friend, or even a stranger, if in a lonely place. Show respect to all people, but grovel to none. When you rise in the morning, give thanks for the light, for your life, for your strength. Give thanks for your food and for the joy of living. If you see no reason to give thanks, the fault lies in yourself. Abuse no one and no thing, for abuse turns the wise ones to fools and robs the spirit of its vision. When your time comes to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song, and die like a hero going home.

Margaret Thatcher, quotes about America:
America, my friends, is the only country in the world actually founded on liberty -- the only one. People went to America to be free.

Treaty of Tripoli, 1796, quotes about America:
As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen, and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

Harry S. Truman, quotes about America:
It's not the hand that signs the laws that holds the destiny of America. It's the hand that casts the ballot.

Henry St. George Tucker, quotes about America:
To secure their enjoyment, however, certain protections or barriers have been erected which serve to maintain inviolate the three primary rights of personal security, personal liberty, and private property. These may in America be said to be: 1. The bill of rights and written constitutions ... 2. The rights of bearing arms -- which with us is not limited and restrained by an arbitrary system of game laws as in England, but is particularly enjoyed by every citizen, and is among his most valuable privileges, since it furnishes the means of resisting as a freeman ought, the inroads of usurpation.
more Henry St. George Tucker quotes

Mark Twain, quotes about America:
For in a Republic, who is "the country?" Is it the Government which is for the moment in the saddle? Why, the Government is merely a servant -- merely a temporary servant; it cannot be its prerogative to determine what is right and what is wrong, and decide who is a patriot and who isn't. Its function is to obey orders, not originate them.
uidiotRaceMAkeWo rldpeace

United States

#23661 Feb 11, 2013
An NFL Fan wrote:
<quoted text>
Let me know when you'll be sailing from Somalia to arrest me, illiterate ranting fool.
As you support wars , dissensions, choas... In most of you post you the real illiterate as none of you posts show any intellectual thought, go way back to all those posts that you posted, i don't see anything outstanding to debate about most opf your post filled with AD hominem, stupidity two liners postings of nonsenses...

Not a Somalain but Antiwar American, you war mongering baboon! The Int'l War crimes tribunal had tried Bushjr & co. for War crimes agaisnt humanity, you next!

This is what out US represent!

Death is our business and business is good. A slogan painted on a Vietnam War U.S. helicopter unit's quarters 'Death is our business and business is good.'

Trials of Henry Kissinger, Christopher Hitchins, p31

==
Henry Kissinger, " The desire of one power for absolute security means absolute insecurity for all the others.

"Soldiers are expendable -- dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy."

"The illegal we do immediately, the unconstitutional takes a little longer.

"If we can't control Latin America, how can we dominate the world?

Control oil and you control nations; control food and you control the people.
D
uidiotRaceMAkeWo rldpeace

United States

#23662 Feb 11, 2013
Carlos Basambrio Iglesias, Ideele magazine, Lima, Peru, Sept. 13, 2001

why do they hate us?
blowback
foreign policy
quotation
[The U.S. government] has managed to turn the love and admiration that peoples around the world once felt for America as a champion of liberty, democracy, and self-determination into universal suspicion and mistrust - a transformation that is the result of Washington's misuse of power and abuse of the moral foundations upon which it built its civilization.
uidiotRaceMAkeWo rldpeace

United States

#23663 Feb 11, 2013
US Justice Thurgood Marshall's

History teaches that grave threats to liberty often come in times of urgency, when constitutional rights seem too extravagant to endure. The World War II relocation-camp cases, and the Red Scare and McCarthy-era ... are only the most extreme reminders that when we allow fundamental freedoms to be sacrificed in the name of real or perceived exigency, we invariably come to regret it.

“ASPIRE 2 INSPIRE B4 U EXPIRE”

Since: Jul 08

USA

#23664 Feb 11, 2013
uidiotRaceMAkeWorldpeace wrote:
<quoted text>U been Debunked
U.S. Constitution, Article IV, Sec. 2, quotes about America:
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.

U.S. Constitution, Article VI, quotes about America:
All ...Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution as under the Confederation.

U.S. Constitution, Article VI, quotes about America:
This Constitution,...shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby

U.S. Department of State, quotes about America:
The United States must cultivate a mental view toward world settlement after this war which will enable us to impose our own terms, amounting perhaps to a pax-Americana.

Virginia Declaration of Rights, quotes about America:
The rights enumerated in this Bill of Rights shall not be construed to limit other rights of the people not therein expressed.

Ludwig Von Mises, quotes about America:
The essential characteristic of Western civilization that distinguishes it from the arrested and petrified civilizations of the East was and is its concern for freedom from the state.

Marilyn vos Savant, quotes about America:
What is the essence of America? Finding and maintaining that perfect, delicate balance between freedom 'to' and freedom 'from'

George Washington, quotes about America:
It should be the highest ambition of every American to extend his views beyond himself, and to bear in mind that his conduct will not only affect himself, his country, and his immediate posterity; but that its influence may be co-extensive with the world, and stamp political happiness or misery on ages yet unborn.

George Washington, quotes about America (False):
Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence. The church, the plow, the prairie wagon, and citizen's firearms are indelibly related. From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to insure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable. Every corner of this land knows firearms, and more than 99 99/100 percent of them by their silence indicate they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference; they deserve a place with all that's good. When firearms go, all goes; we need them every hour.

George Washington, quotes about America:
The preservation of the sacred fire of liberty, and the destiny of the republican model of government, are justly considered deeply, perhaps as finally, staked on the experiment entrusted to the hands of the American people.

George Washington, quotes about America:
There can be no greater error than to expect, or calculate upon real favours from Nation to Nation.'Tis an illusion which experience must cure, which a just pride ought to discard.

George Washington, quotes about America:
The time is now near at hand which must probably determine whether Americans are to be freemen or slaves; whether they are to have any property they can call their own; whether their houses and farms are to be pillaged and destroyed, and themselves consigned to a state of wretchedness from which no human efforts will deliver them. The fate of unborn millions will now depend on God, on the courage and conduct of this army. Our cruel and unrelenting enemy leaves us only the choice of brave resistance, or the most abject submission. We have, therefore, to resolve to conquer or die.

George Washington, quotes about America:
I had always hoped that this land might become a safe and agreeable asylum to the virtuous and persecuted part of mankind, to whatever nation they might belong.

“ASPIRE 2 INSPIRE B4 U EXPIRE”

Since: Jul 08

USA

#23665 Feb 11, 2013
uidiotRaceMAkeWorldpeace wrote:
This what Us represent
O beautiful for spacious skies,
For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the fruited plain!

America! America!
God shed His grace on thee,
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea!

O beautiful for pilgrim feet
Whose stern impassion'd stress
A thoroughfare for freedom beat
Across the wilderness

America! America!
God mend thine ev'ry flaw,
Confirm thy soul in self-control,
Thy liberty in law.

O beautiful for heroes prov'd
In liberating strife,
Who more than self their country lov'd,
And mercy more than life.

America! America!
May God thy gold refine
Till all success be nobleness,
And ev'ry gain divine.

O beautiful for patriot dream
That sees beyond the years
Thine alabaster cities gleam
Undimmed by human tears.

America! America!
God shed His grace on thee,
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea.

Original poem (1893)

America. A Poem for July 4.

O beautiful for halcyon skies,
For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the enameled plain!
America! America!
God shed His grace on thee,
Till souls wax fair as earth and air
And music-hearted sea!

O beautiful for pilgrim feet
Whose stern, impassioned stress
A thoroughfare for freedom beat
Across the wilderness!
America! America!
God shed His grace on thee
Till paths be wrought through wilds of thought
By pilgrim foot and knee!

O beautiful for glory-tale
Of liberating strife,
When once or twice, for man's avail,
Men lavished precious life!
America! America!
God shed His grace on thee
Till selfish gain no longer stain,
The banner of the free!

O beautiful for patriot dream
That sees beyond the years
Thine alabaster cities gleam
Undimmed by human tears!
America! America!
God shed His grace on thee
Till nobler men keep once again
Thy whiter jubilee!
uidiotRaceMAkeWo rldpeace

United States

#23666 Feb 11, 2013
Ben Franklin
Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.
===
House Majority Leader Dick Armey,, Interviewed by Georgetown University law professor Jeffrey Rosen in the October 21 2002 New Republic
"The Justice Department ... more than any federal agency right now is the biggest threat to pesronal liberty in the country.

===
Thomas Jefferson
"Our liberty cannot be guarded but by the freedom of the press.

==

Walter Lippmann, 1920,

Amusing Ourselves to Death, Neil Postman, p108
" There can be no liberty for a community which lacks the means by which to detect lies.
uidiotRaceMAkeWo rldpeace

United States

#23667 Feb 11, 2013
National platform of the Populist Party, 1892,
Wealth and Democracy, Kevin Phillips, p3
"
Corruption dominates the ballot-box, the Legislatures, the Congress and touches even the ermine of the bench. The fruits of the toil of millions are boldly stolen to build up colossal fortunes for a few, unprecedented in the history of mankind; and the possessors of these, in turn, despise the Republic and endanger liberty.

===

Stephen Zunes,
Power Trip, ed. John Feffer, p135

The Bush administration continues to support a fundamentalist and authoritarian; regime in Saudi Arabia while refusing to support the Palestinians' right to statehood until they create a democratic political system based upon "tolerance and liberty".

“ASPIRE 2 INSPIRE B4 U EXPIRE”

Since: Jul 08

USA

#23668 Feb 11, 2013
uidiotRaceMAkeWorldpeace wrote:
ADD!
Council on Hemispheric Affairs, 1982
George Washington, quotes about America:
The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations, is in extending our commercial relations to have as little political connection as possible... Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalships, interest, humor, or caprice?... It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world.

George Washington, quotes about America:
No country upon earth ever had it more in its power to attain these blessings than United America. Wondrously strange, then, and much to be regretted indeed would it be, were we to neglect the means and to depart from the road which Providence has pointed us to so plainly; I cannot believe it will ever come to pass.

John Wayne, quotes about America:
Give the American people a good cause, and there's nothing they can't lick.

Daniel Webster, quotes about America:
Hold on, my friends, to the Constitution and to the Republic for which it stands. Miracles do not cluster and what has happened once in 6,000 years, may not happen again. Hold on to the Constitution, for if the American Constitution should fail, there will be anarchy throughout the world.

Noah Webster, quotes about America:
Another source of power in government is a military force. But this, to be efficient, must be superior to any force that exists among the people, or which they can command; for otherwise this force would be annihilated, on the first exercise of acts of oppression. Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive.

George Will, quotes about America:
The business of America is not business. Neither is it war. The business of America is justice and securing the blessings of liberty.

Walter E. Williams, quotes about America:
Try this thought experiment. Pretend you're a tyrant. Among your many liberty-destroying objectives are extermination of blacks, Jews and Catholics. Which would you prefer, a United States with political power centralized in Washington, powerful government agencies with detailed information on Americans and compliant states or power widely dispersed over 50 states, thousands of local jurisdictions and a limited federal government?

Woodrow Wilson, quotes about America:
A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the Stars and Stripes.

Woodrow Wilson, quotes about America:
America is not a mere body of traders; it is a body of free men. Our greatness is built upon our freedom -- is moral, not material. We have a great ardor for gain; but we have a deep passion for the rights of man.
Jolly

Oneonta, NY

#23669 Feb 11, 2013
REDNECK HIPPIE wrote:
<quoted text>
I never ask for back up when dealing with ignorant fools like wolfie. At best, he is an irritant, sort of like a rash one slathers cream on and forgets.
Wolfie has brought his own fan club here and I enjoy his apoplectic responses to his personal stalker. Maybe he will finally get a taste of what it feels like to be followed around.
And, yet, you have brought backup. Why? Don't feel you can keep up the act without reinforcements? LOL

FYI: FC & I were here before anyone else. We didn't follow anyone to this thread.

As for it being a quiet / slow thread -- so what? Why does that bother you so much?
uidiotRaceMAkeWo rldpeace

United States

#23670 Feb 11, 2013
REDNECK HIPPIE wrote:
<quoted text>
O beautiful for spacious skies,
For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the fruited plain!
America! America!
God shed His grace on thee,
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea!
O beautiful for pilgrim feet
Whose stern impassion'd stress
A thoroughfare for freedom beat
Across the wilderness
America! America!
God mend thine ev'ry flaw,
Confirm thy soul in self-control,
Thy liberty in law.
O beautiful for heroes prov'd
In liberating strife,
Who more than self their country lov'd,
And mercy more than life.
America! America!
May God thy gold refine
Till all success be nobleness,
And ev'ry gain divine.
O beautiful for patriot dream
That sees beyond the years
Thine alabaster cities gleam
Undimmed by human tears.
America! America!
God shed His grace on thee,
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea.
Original poem (1893)
America. A Poem for July 4.
O beautiful for halcyon skies,
For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the enameled plain!
America! America!
God shed His grace on thee,
Till souls wax fair as earth and air
And music-hearted sea!
O beautiful for pilgrim feet
Whose stern, impassioned stress
A thoroughfare for freedom beat
Across the wilderness!
America! America!
God shed His grace on thee
Till paths be wrought through wilds of thought
By pilgrim foot and knee!
O beautiful for glory-tale
Of liberating strife,
When once or twice, for man's avail,
Men lavished precious life!
America! America!
God shed His grace on thee
Till selfish gain no longer stain,
The banner of the free!
O beautiful for patriot dream
That sees beyond the years
Thine alabaster cities gleam
Undimmed by human tears!
America! America!
God shed His grace on thee
Till nobler men keep once again
Thy whiter jubilee!
US failed! Again this debunked!

Howard Zinn, Scourge of Nationalism,

Is not nationalism-that devotion to a flag, an anthem, a boundary so fierce it engenders mass murder-one of the great evils of our time, along with racism, along with religious hatred? These ways of thinking-cultivated, nurtured, indoctrinated from childhood on-have been useful to those in power, and deadly for those out of power.

... Our citizenry has been brought up to see our nation as different from others, an exception in the world, uniquely moral, expanding into other lands in order to bring civilization, liberty, democracy.

... That self-deception started early

===
"American policymakers, setting themselves up as guardians of the world system, are more inclined than ever to simply disregard international laws and conventions if they get in the way of unrivaled military supremacy. Every instance of U.S. armed intervention ... represents a flagrant violation of regional treaties and laws, not to mention the UN Charter itself, which explicitly prohibits military attacks against sovereign nations - for example, Grenada, Nicaragua, Haiti, Panama, Serbia, Iraq... In any event, the U.S. has consistently shown its contempt for international bodies, agreements, and procedures that might conflict with its hegemonic aspirations."
Carl Boggs
uidiotRaceMAkeWo rldpeace

United States

#23671 Feb 11, 2013
Howard Zinn

Patriotism is love not for the government but for the country, the people, the principles it stands for. Patriotism should be extended and not bounded nationally to just people living in the United States but to include support for people all over the world. People all over the world have a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
uidiotRaceMAkeWo rldpeace

United States

#23672 Feb 11, 2013
REDNECK HIPPIE wrote:
<quoted text>
U....
U.S. Department of State, quotes about America:
The United States must cultivate a mental view toward world settlement after this war which will enable us to impose our own terms, amounting perhaps to a pax-Americana.
Virginia Declaration of Rights, quotes about America:
The rights enumerated in this Bill of Rights shall not be construed to limit other rights of the people not therein expressed.
Ludwig Von Mises, quotes about America:
The essential characteristic of Western civilization that distinguishes it from the arrested and petrified civilizations of the East was and is its concern for freedom from the state.
Marilyn vos Savant, quotes about America:
What is the essence of America? Finding and maintaining that perfect, delicate balance between freedom 'to' and freedom 'from'
George Washington, quotes about America:
It should be the highest ambition of every American to extend his views beyond himself, and to bear in mind that his conduct will not only affect himself, his country, and his immediate posterity; but that its influence may be co-extensive with the world, and stamp political happiness or misery on ages yet unborn.
George Washington, quotes about America (False):
Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence. The church, the plow, the prairie wagon, and citizen's firearms are indelibly related. From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to insure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable. Every corner of this land knows firearms, and more than 99 99/100 percent of them by their silence indicate they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference; they deserve a place with all that's good. When firearms go, all goes; we need them every hour.
George Washington, quotes about America:
The preservation of the sacred fire of liberty, and the destiny of the republican model of government, are justly considered deeply, perhaps as finally, staked on the experiment entrusted to the hands of the American people.
George Washington, quotes about America:
There can be no greater error than to expect, or calculate upon real favours from Nation to Nation.'Tis an illusion which experience must cure, which a just pride ought to discard.
George Washington, quotes about America:
The time is now near at hand which must probably determine whether Americans are to be freemen or slaves; whether they are to have any property they can call their own; whether their houses and farms are to be pillaged and destroyed, and themselves consigned to a state of wretchedness from which no human efforts will deliver them. The fate of unborn millions will now depend on God, on the courage and conduct of this army. Our cruel and unrelenting enemy leaves us only the choice of brave resistance, or the most abject submission. We have, therefore, to resolve to conquer or die.
George Washington, quotes about America:
I had always hoped that this land might become a safe and agreeable asylum to the virtuous and persecuted part of mankind, to whatever nation they might belong.
But you our Soldiers help those in our US corrupted leader in power, Supported and To creation of US police State, and our civil liberties and had stepped on our US constitution, with those NDAA, Anti-Protesting , unwarranted wire taping pof AMericans, CISPA and SOPA, Patriot Act 1/2, and Illegal Extra-un constitutional Executive agendas... how are these any good for us Americans? you seriously demented mind need a lobatomy ASAP!
uidiotRaceMAkeWo rldpeace

United States

#23673 Feb 11, 2013
James Madison

" Of all the enemies to public liberty, war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. As the parent of armies, war encourages debts and taxes, the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the executive is extended ... and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force of the people.
uidiotRaceMAkeWo rldpeace

United States

#23674 Feb 11, 2013
Emily Jane Heynen, Minneapolis Star Tribune,
Enforced Conformity , Matthew Rothschild

T"At this point in our history, the (US) flag does not represent freedom and liberty for all. The flag represents our governmentÂ’s intent to politically and militarily dominate weaker countries to support our addiction to oil and our love affair with the automobile.
uidiotRaceMAkeWo rldpeace

United States

#23675 Feb 11, 2013
John Adams (1735-1826) Second President of the United States
Dissertation on the Canon and the Feudal Law (1765)
The Great Thoughts, compiled by George Seldes
keyword(s)

informed people
liberty
democracy
"Liberty cannot be preserved without a general knowledge among the people.
uidiotRaceMAkeWo rldpeace

United States

#23676 Feb 11, 2013
Fisher Ames (1758-1808) American statesman (attributed)
The Great Thoughts, compiled by George Seldes
k" Liberty has never yet lasted long in a democracy, nor has it ever ended in anything better than despotism.
uidiotRaceMAkeWo rldpeace

United States

#23677 Feb 11, 2013
FELIX FRANKFURTER (1882-1965) U.S. Supreme Court Justice
Concurring Opinion, Dennis et a]. v. U.s.(1951)
The Great Thoughts, compiled by George Seldes

Freedom of expression is the well-spring of our civilization .... The history of civilization is in considerable measure the displacement of error which once held sway as official truth by beliefs which in turn have yielded to other truths. Therefore the liberty of man to search for truth ought not to be fettered, no matter what orthodoxies he may challenge. Liberty of thought soon shrivels without freedom of expression. Nor can truth be pursued in an atmosphere hostile to the endeavor or under dangers which are hazarded only by heroes.
uidiotRaceMAkeWo rldpeace

United States

#23678 Feb 11, 2013
Edward Everett
Education is a better safeguard of liberty than a standing army.

John Adams
The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty.

“ASPIRE 2 INSPIRE B4 U EXPIRE”

Since: Jul 08

USA

#23679 Feb 11, 2013
Jolly wrote:
<quoted text>
And, yet, you have brought backup. Why? Don't feel you can keep up the act without reinforcements? LOL
FYI: FC & I were here before anyone else. We didn't follow anyone to this thread.
As for it being a quiet / slow thread -- so what? Why does that bother you so much?
Prove I BROUGHT the back up.
Could it be that your precious wolf breath made a few people angry with its incessant anti American posting and cut and paste. Maybe one of those posters followed him here, just like wolf breath went to my thread unasked and unwanted. Just like wolf breath posted unwanted drivel on my thread. Maybe now you get an inkling of how it feels to have the ignorant wolf breath running rough shod on your thread.
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