Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

There are 38083 comments on the Worcester Telegram & Gazette story from Jun 4, 2007, titled Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says. In it, Worcester Telegram & Gazette reports that:

TEHRAN, Iran- Iran's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad yesterday said the world would witness the destruction of Israel soon, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported.

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Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#42348 Aug 2, 2014
taliban hunting club wrote:
islam is flawed IF allah exist why did he create "dirty animals" like dogs and pigs,why would a "perfect being create animals that he didn't like,thats stupid ,thus proving either 1 (and this is the one i personally believe in)he dont exist or 2 he is flawed and gods aren't flawed
Maybe not a good arguing point to discredit Islam since you would have to put down all religions for God creating animals we don't eat. All animals have a reason to fit into the cycle of life.

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#42349 Aug 2, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
going by that definition, Palestinians are surely a nation.
and it's not in Israel, Palestinians are being used by Arabs to hate Jews.
Mandela

Canning Vale, Australia

#42350 Aug 2, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
What is a nation?

Riccardooo said

a large aggregate of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory.

Mandela says

Riccardooo put one up her own azz ..........
because as others ave noted .........riccardooo agreees it make
palestine a nation too....

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Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#42352 Aug 2, 2014
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>and it's not in Israel, Palestinians are being used by Arabs to hate Jews.
In fact Israel is not a nation, it is based on "borrowed land". We do not hate Jews, but those Jews who persecute and commit atrocities against our brothers.

Nation theory work both ways.

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#42353 Aug 3, 2014
Mandela wrote:
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
What is a nation?
Riccardooo said
a large aggregate of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory.
Mandela says
Riccardooo put one up her own azz ..........
because as others ave noted .........riccardooo agreees it make
palestine a nation too....
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I suggest you move there. There are eight criteria accepted by the international community used to determine whether an entity is an independent country or not.

A country need only fail on one of the eight criteria to not meet the definition of independent country status. does not meet all eight criteria; it fails somewhat on one of the eight criteria... Has external recognition. A country has been "voted into the club" by other countries.

No. Despite the super-majority of United Nations members approving United Nations General Assembly resolution 67/19 on November 29, 2012, giving Palestine non-member state observer status, Palestine is not yet eligible to join the United Nations as an independent country.

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Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#42356 Aug 3, 2014
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

The Savage Sorting
Culling the Human Herd in the 21st Century

By John Stanton

There is a de facto redefinition of “the economy” when sharp contractions are gradually lost to standard measures. The unemployed who lose everything…easily fall off the edge of what is defined as “the economy” and counted as such. So do small shop and factory owners who lose everything and commit suicide. And so do the growing number of well-educated students and professionals who leave…all together. These trends redefine the space of the economy. They make it smaller and expel a good share of the unemployed and poor from standard measures. Such a redefinition makes “the economy” presentable, so to speak, allowing it to show a slight growth of GDP per capita.

The reality at the ground level is more akin to a kind of economic version of ethnic cleansing in which elements considered troublesome are dealt with by simply eliminating them. This shrinking and redefinition of economic space so that economies can be represented as being “back on track” holds for a growing number of economies in the European Union and elsewhere [like the United States]… One indication of a people’s economic despair is a sharp rise in suicide. This trend is evident in several countries worldwide from India to the United States…

The channels for expulsion vary greatly. They include austerity policies that have helped shrink the economies of Greece and Spain, environmental policies that overlook toxic emissions from enormous mining operations in Norilsk, Russia and the American state of Montana…if our concern is environmental destruction rather that interstate politics, the fact that both these mining operations are heavy polluters matters more than the fact that one is in Russia and the other in the United States…

The diverse processes and conditions I include under the notion of expulsion all share one aspect: they are acute. While the abjectly poor worldwide are the most extreme instance, I do include such diverse conditions as the impoverishment of the middle classes in rich countries, the evictions of millions of small farmers in poor countries…Then there are the countless displaced people warehoused in formal and informal refugee camps, the minoritized groups in rich countries who are warehoused in prisons and the able bodied unemployed men and women warehoused in ghettoes and slums…Some are new types of expulsions, such as the 9 million households in the United States whose homes were foreclosed…

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Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#42357 Aug 3, 2014
April 10, 2014 "ICH" - "Dissident Voice" -- Saskia Sassen’s forthcoming book Expulsions: Brutality and Complexity in the Global Economy (Harvard-Belknap Press, May 2014) begins its sobering journey with an Introduction titled, The Savage Sorting. The Savage Sorting seems destined to become the short-form description of 21st Century to be remembered, if at all, in some distant future by a genetically reengineered humanity (and biosphere).

Most television watchers are familiar with programming on National Geographic or Animal Planet that depicts “life in the wild” for non-human animals. Typical scenes from “nature” programming include lions and hyenas hunting down young, old and infirm wildebeests or zebras. Ultimately successful, they engage in a feeding frenzy. Sometimes the prey is still alive as it is being disemboweled by the predators. Chimpanzees attack, kill and eat rivals whilst emitting screams that unsettle the viewer’s nerves.

Aging grizzly bears are observed losing their prized hunting spots to the young and are left to feed on scraps, themselves destined to be prey for creatures large and small. As the “nature” show goes on, the soothing voice of the human narrator assures the audience that it is all part of the “natural order of things.”

That “natural order of things” also includes human-on-human expulsion and extermination. But before touching a bit on the 21st Century culling of the human herd, it is worth noting that human-on-non-human carnage continues into this “modern” century. One of the practices of this new age of enlightenment is “Canned Hunting” in South Africa. European, North Americans and Chinese big game hunters, according to the Guardian newspaper, sometimes sit on the back of pickup trucks and wait for lions—bred for a “guaranteed kill”– to run by or walk up to the truck.

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#42359 Aug 5, 2014
Stand with the Jews or be ruled by the Muslims

Obama has wussified the military while the Islamists are waging a new crusade against the West.

Israel is on the front lines of the war being waged by the Muslim fundamentalists.

Here's a line you should never forget: Stand with the Jews or be ruled by the Muslims.

You have no other choice.

They are fighting the war of all wars.

Israel's sons are fighting, just as ours were in Iraq and Afghanistan – that is, until Obama the impostor came along.

Meanwhile, the U.S. border is being overrun by illegals from Central America.

Maybe there are children who'd like to come here from Russia, too, or Sudan.

There are something like 2 billion children in the world.

Should we let them in, too?

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#42360 Aug 5, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
In fact Israel is not a nation, it is based on "borrowed land". We do not hate Jews, but those Jews who persecute and commit atrocities against our brothers.
Nation theory work both ways.
Then where are the Jews from?

“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#42361 Aug 5, 2014
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Then where are the Jews from?
Majority of those living in Israel are from Europe.

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Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#42362 Aug 5, 2014
RiccardoFire wrote:
Stand with the Jews or be ruled by the Muslims
Obama has wussified the military while the Islamists are waging a new crusade against the West.
Israel is on the front lines of the war being waged by the Muslim fundamentalists.
Here's a line you should never forget: Stand with the Jews or be ruled by the Muslims.
You have no other choice.
They are fighting the war of all wars.
Israel's sons are fighting, just as ours were in Iraq and Afghanistan – that is, until Obama the impostor came along.
Meanwhile, the U.S. border is being overrun by illegals from Central America.
Maybe there are children who'd like to come here from Russia, too, or Sudan.
There are something like 2 billion children in the world.
Should we let them in, too?
So now the Christian world of 2.5 Billion is banking on 6 Million Jews to "control" 1.5 Billion Muslims.

Oh what a cowardly people, First they persecuted these Jews for 2000 years, killing and murdering and asking them to lead a life of Nomads.....

Now they shipped them off to ME to keep on fighting so that "Christians nations" can sleep "peacefully".

Who is taking whom for a ride?

“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#42363 Aug 5, 2014
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

The Savage Sorting
Culling the Human Herd in the 21st Century

By John Stanton

In the Guardian’s “The lions bred for slaughter: Canned hunting is a fast-growing business in South Africa, where thousands of lions are being bred on farms to be shot by wealthy foreign trophy-hunters,” the reader is confronted with a repulsive picture of a happy hunter gloating over a dead lion.

Humans Don’t Discriminate, They Eliminate Non-Humans and Humans Equally

Then there is the case of the Gray Wolf in the United States. According to The Wolf that Changed America:

Wolves have been feared, hated, and persecuted for hundreds of years in North America. Before the arrival of Europeans, Native Americans incorporated wolves into their legends and rituals, portraying them as ferocious warriors in some traditions and thieving spirits in others. European Americans, however, simply despised wolves. Many, including celebrated painter and naturalist John James Audubon, believed wolves ought to be eradicated for the threat they posed to valuable livestock. This attitude enabled a centuries-long extermination campaign that nearly wiped out the gray wolf in the continental United States by 1950.

Now that Grey Wolf populations are increasing—thanks to the work of some bright humans–denizens in American states like Idaho, Wyoming and Michigan want to get back to the way things were in the good old 1950s. Killing a wolf and taking a “selfie” with the fur that once adorned its body is still an acceptable practice in some quarters. Those quarters are typically dominated by weekend warriors (take another look at the canned hunter on display in the Guardian for the classic “smirk”). Then again American hunters assisted in the near elimination of the America’s mascot: the Bald Eagle.

But it is not just Americans that seek the death penalty for the Gray Wolf (or are crushing the biosphere that supports life on Earth). It is the same story, for example, in France. According to the Telegraph, UK,“Conservation groups are furious. To return to wolf hunts as if we were in the Middle Ages is scandalous. That the local authorities are organizing them is even worse, said Jean-François Darmstaedter, president of Ferus, who threatened to challenge their legality in the European courts.

We call them ‘political killings’ as their only aim is to allow farmers to let off steam but they will solve nothing. Blindly shooting wolves will have no effect other than to exacerbate the problem. If you kill the alpha male, you can split up a pack, which will cause far more damage. The only solution, he said, was to protect flocks properly by using fierce Pyrenean Patou mountain dogs, penning sheep inside high electrified fences at night and firing warning shots if wolves approach. These measures can reduce predation to almost nil, he insisted.

Just Like the Wolves: Humans Negated, Written off, Warehoused, Displaced

There is a statement in the comment section on PBS’ The Wolf that Changed America. It serves as a brutal reminder of the willingness of humanity to expel through genocide, war, and economic/statistical cleansing many collections of human and non-human beings. Those expulsed rarely have the honor of even being lost to recorded history. America’s Native Americans provide an example.

The context omitted by this film [The Wolf that Changed America] is the conquest and colonization of New Mexico by the United States and the subsequent ethnic cleansing of the indigenous Americans to make way for cattle ranching, to which the wolves were a threat. Now we speak of the conservation of the “wilderness” and its wild inhabitants. But why are the human inhabitants denied and negated?
Frank Birchard

Tel Aviv, Israel

#42365 Aug 6, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
There is "No Land of Israel".... for 2000 years there was "No Land of Israel" existing in the world.
What is today known as "Land of Israel" is the land of Palestinians.

Muq,
Even if, as you say, there were no history of the Land of Israel - why should it be Jew-free, as Hamas' charter states? Why should it be "returned" to people whose ancestors sold the land to Jews? Even the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem admitted as much during the 1937 Peel Commission.
References: http://www.frontpagemag.com/2011/david-meir-l...
http://www.crethiplethi.com/text-of-the-peel-...

In short, even if you argue about sovereignty and governing authorities, there are separate questions of land ownership. And once you acknowledge that there are both Jews and Arabs who legitimately lay claim to property there's a problem - as least based on the precedents we've seen regarding ownership of property in Muslim lands by Jews - or Christians.

Reference: http://online.wsj.com/articles/the-christian-...

“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#42367 Aug 6, 2014
Frank Birchard wrote:
MUQ1 wrote:
There is "No Land of Israel".... for 2000 years there was "No Land of Israel" existing in the world.
What is today known as "Land of Israel" is the land of Palestinians.
Muq,
Even if, as you say, there were no history of the Land of Israel - why should it be Jew-free, as Hamas' charter states? Why should it be "returned" to people whose ancestors sold the land to Jews? Even the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem admitted as much during the 1937 Peel Commission.
References: http://www.frontpagemag.com/2011/david-meir-l...
http://www.crethiplethi.com/text-of-the-peel-...
In short, even if you argue about sovereignty and governing authorities, there are separate questions of land ownership. And once you acknowledge that there are both Jews and Arabs who legitimately lay claim to property there's a problem - as least based on the precedents we've seen regarding ownership of property in Muslim lands by Jews - or Christians.
Reference: http://online.wsj.com/articles/the-christian-...
Because for 2000 years it was Jews free!! A few Jews scattered here and there is not called "Jewish Presence".... there was not a single city which had predominantly Jewish majority, nor did they have any city which was managed by Jews.

To gather all these Jews living in different parts of ME and then try to make a "country" out of them is same as "Importing" Jews from Europe to Palestine.

My Question is why did not Christian World thought about these "Poor Jews" for 2000 years, how come this "Bright idea" came to them after WW-1?

And why did not they try to find a "Safe Site" where these "Precious Jews" could live in peace and tranquility for ever and ever.

The site they have selected in "made of trouble" for them.

Or Christians wanted to take "Revenge" on Jews that after 2000 years of persecution by Christians they should be "persecuted" by Muslims?

So Jews have fallen from cooking pot to frying pan?

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#42370 Aug 6, 2014

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#42371 Aug 6, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
In fact Israel is not a nation, it is based on "borrowed land". We do not hate Jews, but those Jews who persecute and commit atrocities against our brothers.
Nation theory work both ways.
You just nailed it. When will Arabs and Muslims allow Israel to be a Nation and live in peace?

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#42372 Aug 6, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Majority of those living in Israel are from Europe.
No, I asked where are Jews from? As in original. Do you think they originated in Europe?

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#42373 Aug 6, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>

My Question is why did not Christian World thought about these "Poor Jews" for 2000 years, how come this "Bright idea" came to them after WW-1?
My Answer is many Jews migrated to the Christian world. Do you know how many great Jews there are that have made life more comfortable for you. How does that make you feel since the only thing Arabs have invented was the suicide vest?

“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#42375 Aug 6, 2014
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

The Savage Sorting
Culling the Human Herd in the 21st Century

By John Stanton

According to the Internal Displacement Monitoring Center (IDMC), there are nearly 30 million internally displaced people (IDP’s) around the globe who are, essentially, homeless. War is a primary cause. Making war is a conscious decision by politicians and military leaders who rarely consider the destructive consequences for the indigenous population, culture and infrastructure. As Sassen has pointed out, expulsions are “made” and war may be the ultimate form of expulsion.

For example, America’s covert actions in the Syrian civil war and its two invasions of Iraq have contributed significantly to the IDP numbers. Remarkably, as a consequence of US war-making the Christian cultures of Iraq and Syria have nearly vanished.

IDMC notes that IDP’s are the result of “conflict, generalized violence, human rights violations and natural hazard-induced disasters. It should be noted that these figures do not include all IDP situations by other causes, such as development projects. Furthermore, while the figures have been presented separately here, our analysis shows that conflict, disasters and resulting displacement have multiple and often overlapping root causes and impacts.

Over half of the countries affected by conflict since 1970 were also affected by disaster-induced displacement in the last five years alone. This is an important consideration for those tasked with policy-making, protection and assistance.” IDMC reports that there are another 37 million IDP’s due to “disasters”. The USA accounts for 900,000 of that number. Where do they go?

If You Want a Good Job, Commit a Crime and Go to Prison

The invisible laborers in America’s prisons reduce the costs for goods and services offered by many large US corporations. Skilled and captive prison labor is used by business and state governments on a regular basis ostensibly to cover the costs of incarceration. There is irony here: What does it say about a society that allows government and business to hire prisoners rather than employing law abiding citizens who are equal to the task? What’s the point of being a “good citizen” when there is little reward in playing by the rules of the State-Corporate designed system of life?
Sassen notes that:

Mass incarceration has long been present in extreme dictatorships. But today it is emerging as inextricably linked to advanced capitalism…Most of the people who are being incarcerated are also the people who do not have work and from whom work will not be found in our current epoch…today’s prisoners in the United States and United Kingdom are increasingly today’s version of the surplus laboring population common in the brutal beginnings of modern capitalism…many transnational corporations have set up satellite factories inside prisons…

Available evidence suggests that the majority of corporations profiting [in some form] from prison labor [include] Chevron, Bank of America, AT&T, Starbucks and Walmart…the profits of private prisons are represented are represented as a positive addition to a country’s GDP even as they are a government cost; in contrast, government run prisons are only represented as government debt.

The State-Corporate Complex consciously makes decisions that “expel” one collective group and incorporates another. According to Sassen:

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Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#42376 Aug 6, 2014
RF wrote:
1. You just nailed it. When will Arabs and Muslims allow Israel to be a Nation and live in peace?

2. No, I asked where are Jews from? As in original. Do you think they originated in Europe?

3. My Answer is many Jews migrated to the Christian world. Do you know how many great Jews there are that have made life more comfortable for you. How does that make you feel since the only thing Arabs have invented was the suicide vest?
Ans.

01. When will Arabs allow Jews to live in peace?

The day when Jews realize that “They are gusts and not Owner” of the lands they are living in.

And any guest must behave and know how to behave with owners of the land.

If they realize it sooner, it would be better, if they want to live “like a bully”, every one knows what happens to a bully in the end.

02. Where are “Jews from Originally”?

I will answer your question with another question to show you how “unreasonable” is your question.

“From where are most people residing in USA, Canada and Australia”?

03. Arabs “Only” invented Suicide Vests?

No you are wrong!! Arabs did not “Invent” Suicide Vests, it was “Invented” by LTTE of Sri Lanka!!

Arabs did invent many things and one of them was to give you basic education from Muslim Empire of Spain.

That was the spark that cause Renaissance in Europe during those Dark Centuries.

Just check your dictionaries and find out, how many scientific, mathematical, engineering, Military and medical terms have Arabic Origin.

For a starter, answer this :

From which language the Naval Term “Admiral” is derived from?

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