Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

There are 38083 comments on the Worcester Telegram & Gazette story from Jun 4, 2007, titled Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says. In it, Worcester Telegram & Gazette reports that:

TEHRAN, Iran- Iran's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad yesterday said the world would witness the destruction of Israel soon, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported.

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MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#41015 Feb 11, 2014
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

Noam Chomsky: The Dangerous Rogue States Operating in the Mideast -- U.S. and Israel

By Noam Chomsky

(Contd.)

The U.S. then announced that the conference was canceled, reiterating Israel's objections. The Arab states, the European Parliament and Russia called for a rapid reconvening of the conference, while the U.N. General Assembly voted 174-6 to call on Israel to join the NPT and open its facilities to inspection. Voting "no" were the United States, Israel, Canada, Marshall Islands, Micronesia and Palau - a result that suggests another possible U.S. concession today.

Such isolation of the United States in the international arena is quite normal, on a wide range of issues.

In contrast, the non-aligned movement (most of the world), at its meeting last year in Tehran, once again vigorously supported Iran's right, as a signer of the NPT, to enrich uranium. The U.S. rejects that argument, claiming that the right is conditional on a clean bill of health from inspectors, but there is no such wording in the treaty.
A large majority of Arabs support Iran's right to pursue its nuclear program. Arabs are hostile to Iran, but overwhelmingly regard the United States and Israel as the primary threats they face, as Shibley Telhami reported again in his recent comprehensive review of Arab opinion.

"Western officials appear flummoxed" by Iran's refusal to abandon the right to enrich uranium, Frank Rose observes in The New York Times, offering a psychological explanation. Others come to mind if we step slightly out of the box.

The United States can be held to lead the international community only if that community is defined as the U.S. and whoever happens to go along with it, often through intimidation, as is sometimes tacitly conceded.

Critics of the new accord, as David E. Sanger and Jodi Rudoren report in The New York Times, warn that "wily middlemen, Chinese eager for energy sources and Europeans looking for a way back to the old days, when Iran was a major source of trade, will see their chance to leap the barriers." In short, they currently accept American orders only because of fear. And in fact China, India and many others have sought their own ways to evade U.S. sanctions on Iran.

The alternative perspective challenges the rest of the standard U.S. version. It does not overlook the fact that for 60 years, without a break, the United States has been torturing Iranians. That punishment began in 1953 with the CIA-run coup that overthrew Iran's parliamentary government and installed the Shah, a tyrant who regularly compiled one of the worst human rights records in the world as an American ally.

When the Shah was himself overthrown in 1979, the U.S. turned at once to supporting Saddam Hussein's murderous invasion of Iran, finally joining directly by reflagging Iraq ally Kuwait's ships so that they could break an Iranian blockade. In 1988 a U.S. naval vessel also shot down an Iranian airliner in commercial airspace, killing 290 people, then received presidential honors upon returning home.

MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#41016 Feb 11, 2014
After Iran was forced to capitulate, the United States renewed its support for its friend Saddam, even inviting Iraqi nuclear engineers to the U.S. for advanced training in weapons production. The Clinton administration then imposed sanctions on Iran, which have become much harsher in recent years.

There are in fact two rogue states operating in the region, resorting to aggression and terror and violating international law at will: the United States and its Israeli client. Iran has indeed carried out an act of aggression: conquering three Arab islands under the U.S.-backed Shah. But any terror credibly attributed to Iran pales in comparison with that of the rogue states.

It is understandable that those rogue states should strenuously object to a deterrent in the region, and should lead a campaign to free themselves from any such constraints.

Just how far will the lesser rogue state go to eliminate the feared deterrent on the pretext of an "existential threat"? Some fear that it will go very far. Micah Zenko of the Council on Foreign Relations warns in Foreign Policy that Israel might resort to nuclear war. Foreign policy analyst Zbigniew Brzezinski urges Washington to make it clear to Israel that the U.S. Air Force will stop them if they try to bomb.

Which of these conflicting perspectives is closer to reality? To answer the question is more than just a useful exercise. Significant global consequences turn on the answer.

© 2012 Noam Chomsky Distributed by The New York Times Syndicate
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#41018 Feb 12, 2014
What did prophet preach?(The other side of story)

Selection from the book MISHKAT AL MASABEEH (an authentic collection of sayings of prophet) Part-2

Subject: ZUHD (Contd.)

7. Prophet PBUH said “You should appreciate the gift of five things before five other things

“Youth before old age sets in”
“Healthiness before infirmity sets-in”
“Abundance of means before poverty comes”
“Free time before you become busy”
“Life on this earth before death”

8. Prophet PBUH said “If this entire earth and all its contents would have value of Gnats wings in the eyes of Allah, He would not have given Unbelievers even a sip of water”

9. Prophet PBUH said “A believer whatever he spends rightfully is considered as acts of good deeds by Allah and he will be rewarded for it, but that is not so for what he spends in excess”

10. Prophet PBUH said “If you are not greedy towards wealth of this world, Allah will love you and if you are not greedy for what other persons have, people would like you”

11. Prophet PBUH said “My Lord offered me to turn all the stones of Makkah into gold nuggets….but I said “O my Lord! I wish that one day I eat with full stomach and next day I stay empty stomached”

12. Prophet PBUH said “One who gets up in the morning in the state that he no fear of his life or property, he has good health and he has enough food to last that day, then it is as if he has got enough from the world”

13. Prophet PBUH said “ When there is no blessings in the wealth of a person, he spends in on lavish buildings which is beyond his requirements.

14. Prophet PBUH said “One who will be nearest to me in the hereafter, would be the one who are most righteous and most God conscious, whosever they and wherever they are”

15. Prophet PBUH said “ If you see some one who is not too much attracted towards this world and he speaks less, then get close to him, because he has been given wisdom”

“AU KAMA QAAL ALAIHI AL SALAT WA SALAAM (Prophet PBUH said these or similar words)

Contd.
Uzi

Herzliya, Israel

#41023 Feb 13, 2014
False reporting in the "Jewish controlled world media" Shame.

http://honestreporting.com/the-photo-that-sta...

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#41025 Feb 13, 2014
MUQ wrote:
What did prophet preach?
The true Prophets or the fake one that was a child pervert?
w wwman uk

Norwich, UK

#41026 Feb 14, 2014
What did prophet preach?
Pedophilia ? plain evil
How to pour boiling water down tthe throats of non believers?plain evil and stupid.
Never take a non muslim as a friend? plain stupid
That little boys are to be thought of as pearls? disgusting and evil
Wife beating instructions? plain primitive and cowardly
Slavery ? plain evil
You will recieve 72 vergins in heavan if you did defending islam? plain delusional and stupid.
How to throw stones at Jews? plain raciest stupid
What does our resident islamist preach hatred to all Jews?
That the dinosaurs were muslims?
That he hates the White race?
That he thinks the cartoon riots were justified ?
That cut and past is cool?
That the arsehollas ruling iran are enriching uranium for peaceful perposes?
That if he licks saudi arse hard enough he will keep his job ,dispite being an incompident?
w wman uk

Swansea, UK

#41027 Feb 15, 2014
Are these not the verses of the queeran????????
Quran (22:19-21)- But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads; Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted; And for them are hooked rods of iron
Nice one mug
Quran (9:30)- And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah... Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they!
They also fighteth mostly amoung themselves.
Quran (4:47)- O you (Jews) who have been given the Book! believe that which We have revealed, verifying what you have, before We alter faces then turn them on their backs, or curse them as We cursed the violaters of the Sabbath, and the command of Allah shall be executed.
So this is where your Jew hatred comes from mug?
Bukhari (2:28)- Women comprise the majority of Hell's occupants.(A weak Hadith, Kanz al-`ummal, 22:10, even suggests that 99% of women go to Hell).
Is this why islam treats women as second class mug?
Koran 52:24)
Round about them will serve, to them, boys
(handsome) as pearls well-guarded.
(Koran 56:17)
Round about them will serve boys of perpetual
freshness.
(Koran 76:19)
And round about them will serve boys of perpetual
freshness: if thou seest them, thou wouldst think
them scattered pearls.
This would apear to have been writen by a pedophile with homosexial tendancys nast isnt it mug?
Thje koran is chocked full of such homely advise this book must reform.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#41029 Feb 15, 2014
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

Defeated By The Taliban, Washington Decides To Take On Russia And China

By Paul Craig Roberts

December 07, 2013 "Information Clearing House - The several days of organized protests in Ukraine are notable for the relative lack of police violence. Unlike in the US, Canada, Thailand, Greece, and Spain, peaceful protesters have not been beaten, tear gassed, water cannoned, and tasered by Ukrainian police. Unlike in Egypt, Palestine, and Bahrain, Ukrainian protesters have not been fired upon with live ammunition. The restraint of the Ukrainian government and police in the face of provocations has been remarkable. Apparently, Ukrainian police have not been militarized by US Homeland Security.

What are the Ukrainian protests about? On the surface, the protests don’t make sense. The Ukrainian government made the correct decision to stay out of the EU. Ukraine’s economic interests lie with Russia, not with the EU. This is completely obvious.

The EU wants Ukraine to join so that Ukraine can be looted, like Latvia, Greece, Spain, Italy, Ireland, and Portugal. The situation is so bad in Greece, for example, that the World Health Organization reports that some Greeks are infecting themselves with HIV in order to receive the 700 euro monthly benefit for the HIV-infected.

The US wants Ukraine to join so it can become a location for more of Washington’s missile bases against Russia.

Why would Ukrainians want to be looted?

Why would Ukrainians want to become targets for Russia’s Iskander Missiles as a host country for Washington’s aggression against Russia?

Why would Ukrainians having gained their sovereignty from Russia want to lose it to the EU?

Obviously, an intelligent, aware, Ukrainian population would not accept these costs of joining the EU.

So, why the protests?

Part of the answer is Ukrainian nationalists’ hatred of Russia. With the Soviet collapse, Ukraine became a country independent of Russia. When empires break up, other interests can seize power. Various secessions occurred producing a collection of small states such as Georgia, Azerbaijan, the former central Asian Soviet Republics, Ukraine, the Baltics, and the pieces into which Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia were broken by “nationalism.” The governments of these weak states were easy for Washington to purchase. The governments of these powerless states are more responsive to Washington than to their own people. Much of the former Soviet Empire is now part of Washington’s Empire. Georgia, the birthplace of Joseph Stalin, now sends its sons to die for Washington in Afghanistan, just as Georgia did for the Soviet Union,

These former constituent elements of the Russian/Soviet Empire are being incorporated into Washington’s Empire. The gullible nationalists, naifs really, in these American colonies might think that they are free, but they simply have exchanged one master for another.

They are blind to their subservience, because they remember their subservience to Russia/Soviet Union and have not yet realized their subservience to Washington, which they see as a liberator with a checkbook. When these weak and powerless new countries, which have no protector, realize that their fate is not in their own hands, but in Washington’s hands, it will be too late for them.

(Contd.)
Uzi

Herzliya, Israel

#41030 Feb 15, 2014
w wwman uk wrote:
What did prophet preach?
Pedophilia ? plain evil
How to pour boiling water down tthe throats of non believers?plain evil and stupid.
Never take a non muslim as a friend? plain stupid
That little boys are to be thought of as pearls? disgusting and evil
Wife beating instructions? plain primitive and cowardly
Slavery ? plain evil
You will recieve 72 vergins in heavan if you did defending islam? plain delusional and stupid.
How to throw stones at Jews? plain raciest stupid
What does our resident islamist preach hatred to all Jews?
That the dinosaurs were muslims?
That he hates the White race?
That he thinks the cartoon riots were justified ?
That cut and past is cool?
That the arsehollas ruling iran are enriching uranium for peaceful perposes?
That if he licks saudi arse hard enough he will keep his job ,dispite being an incompident?
Excellent, keep up the good work.
Uzi

Herzliya, Israel

#41031 Feb 15, 2014
w wman uk wrote:
Are these not the verses of the queeran????????
Quran (22:19-21)- But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads; Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted; And for them are hooked rods of iron
Nice one mug
Quran (9:30)- And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah... Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they!
They also fighteth mostly amoung themselves.
Quran (4:47)- O you (Jews) who have been given the Book! believe that which We have revealed, verifying what you have, before We alter faces then turn them on their backs, or curse them as We cursed the violaters of the Sabbath, and the command of Allah shall be executed.
So this is where your Jew hatred comes from mug?
Bukhari (2:28)- Women comprise the majority of Hell's occupants.(A weak Hadith, Kanz al-`ummal, 22:10, even suggests that 99% of women go to Hell).
Is this why islam treats women as second class mug?
Koran 52:24)
Round about them will serve, to them, boys
(handsome) as pearls well-guarded.
(Koran 56:17)
Round about them will serve boys of perpetual
freshness.
(Koran 76:19)
And round about them will serve boys of perpetual
freshness: if thou seest them, thou wouldst think
them scattered pearls.
This would apear to have been writen by a pedophile with homosexial tendancys nast isnt it mug?
Thje koran is chocked full of such homely advise this book must reform.
No muslim or any nazislamist idiot can defend this shit from any religion, but it is in the QUORAN, the official instruction booklet for the retarded of the world called muslims.
w wmanuk

Edinburgh, UK

#41032 Feb 16, 2014
MUQ wrote:
http://www.informationclearing house.info/article37032.htm
Defeated By The Taliban, Washington Decides To Take On Russia And China
By Paul Craig Roberts
December 07, 2013 "Information Clearing House - The several days of organized protests in Ukraine are notable for the relative lack of police violence. Unlike in the US, Canada, Thailand, Greece, and Spain, peaceful protesters have not been beaten, tear gassed, water cannoned, and tasered by Ukrainian police. Unlike in Egypt, Palestine, and Bahrain, Ukrainian protesters have not been fired upon with live ammunition. The restraint of the Ukrainian government and police in the face of provocations has been remarkable. Apparently, Ukrainian police have not been militarized by US Homeland Security.
What are the Ukrainian protests about? On the surface, the protests don’t make sense. The Ukrainian government made the correct decision to stay out of the EU. Ukraine’s economic interests lie with Russia, not with the EU. This is completely obvious.
The EU wants Ukraine to join so that Ukraine can be looted, like Latvia, Greece, Spain, Italy, Ireland, and Portugal. The situation is so bad in Greece, for example, that the World Health Organization reports that some Greeks are infecting themselves with HIV in order to receive the 700 euro monthly benefit for the HIV-infected.
The US wants Ukraine to join so it can become a location for more of Washington’s missile bases against Russia.
Why would Ukrainians want to be looted?
Why would Ukrainians want to become targets for Russia’s Iskander Missiles as a host country for Washington’s aggression against Russia?
Why would Ukrainians having gained their sovereignty from Russia want to lose it to the EU?
Obviously, an intelligent, aware, Ukrainian population would not accept these costs of joining the EU.
So, why the protests?
Part of the answer is Ukrainian nationalists’ hatred of Russia. With the Soviet collapse, Ukraine became a country independent of Russia. When empires break up, other interests can seize power. Various secessions occurred producing a collection of small states such as Georgia, Azerbaijan, the former central Asian Soviet Republics, Ukraine, the Baltics, and the pieces into which Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia were broken by “nationalism.” The governments of these weak states were easy for Washington to purchase. The governments of these powerless states are more responsive to Washington than to their own people. Much of the former Soviet Empire is now part of Washington’s Empire. Georgia, the birthplace of Joseph Stalin, now sends its sons to die for Washington in Afghanistan, just as Georgia did for the Soviet Union,
These former constituent elements of the Russian/Soviet Empire are being incorporated into Washington’s Empire. The gullible nationalists, naifs really, in these American colonies might think that they are free, but they simply have exchanged one master for another.
They are blind to their subservience, because they remember their subservience to Russia/Soviet Union and have not yet realized their subservience to Washington, which they see as a liberator with a checkbook. When these weak and powerless new countries, which have no protector, realize that their fate is not in their own hands, but in Washington’s hands, it will be too late for them.
(Contd.)
Mug the coward con not defend islam because it is indefencible. Is there not more compident apologist fr islam? If you are getting paid it cant be much because if you pay penuts you get monkeys.. If islam was my religion l would veiw the koran as a 7th century embarassment. Come on mug wife beating instructions? the hatered advocated towards others in the koran is obseen as are the dubious sexual practices. Not all of it some contains great wisdom but l can only guess that those portions were not influenced by moohamed piss be upon him for all the death oppression and slavery that his cult have and is visiting on the world.
E23Jer34

Tórshavn, Faroe Islands

#41033 Feb 16, 2014
Only mideast country that has made terrorist attacks against USA is Isreal.

Jews have made terrorist attacks against USA without getting any punishment at all!!!!

Jews are liars, manipulators and extreme hypocrites that you should never thrust.

E23Jer34

Tórshavn, Faroe Islands

#41034 Feb 16, 2014
Jews did also attack the floating humanitarian european ship.

Jews are the biggest liars. ahamdinijad said that Isreal will disapear like the jewish USSR did. He didn't say that he wanted to exterminate Isreal.

But i wouldn't blame ahmadinijad if he annihilated Isreal.

Jews are nothing but a degenrate inbreed people who imagine they are gods chosen and who inented this idiotic book caled the bible.
Uzi

Herzliya, Israel

#41036 Feb 16, 2014
E23Jer34 wrote:
Only mideast country that has made terrorist attacks against USA is Isreal.
Jews have made terrorist attacks against USA without getting any punishment at all!!!!
Jews are liars, manipulators and extreme hypocrites that you should never thrust.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ZbsY40peFhsXX
"you should never thrust". Go back to first grade idiot.
Uzi

Herzliya, Israel

#41037 Feb 16, 2014
E23Jer34 wrote:
Jews did also attack the floating humanitarian european ship.
Jews are the biggest liars. ahamdinijad said that Isreal will disapear like the jewish USSR did. He didn't say that he wanted to exterminate Isreal.
But i wouldn't blame ahmadinijad if he annihilated Isreal.
Jews are nothing but a degenrate inbreed people who imagine they are gods chosen and who inented this idiotic book caled the bible.
Of course we are GOD. We control the world , the media, the banks, and your stinking mama too. Go kneel and pray.
w wmanuk

Edinburgh, UK

#41039 Feb 16, 2014
E23Jer34 wrote:
Jews did also attack the floating humanitarian european ship.
Jews are the biggest liars. ahamdinijad said that Isreal will disapear like the jewish USSR did. He didn't say that he wanted to exterminate Isreal.
But i wouldn't blame ahmadinijad if he annihilated Isreal.
Jews are nothing but a degenrate inbreed people who imagine they are gods chosen and who inented this idiotic book caled the bible.
You are living proof that you father should have washed his cock before thrusting his sister?
E23Jer34

Tórshavn, Faroe Islands

#41040 Feb 16, 2014
No but if you wanna go down and prey to a dead jew go ahead you idiots.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#41042 Feb 16, 2014

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

Defeated By The Taliban, Washington Decides To Take On Russia And China

By Paul Craig Roberts

(Contd.)

With the collapse of the Soviet Union, Washington quickly stepped into the place of Russia. The new countries were all broke, as was Russia at the time and, thus, helpless. Washington used NGOs funded by Washington and its EU puppets to create anti-Russian, pro-American, pro-EU movements in the former constituent parts of Soviet Russia. The gullible peoples were so happy to have escaped the Soviet thumb that they did not realize that they now had new masters.

It is a good bet that the Ukrainian protests are a CIA organized event, using the Washington and EU funded NGOs and manipulating the hatred of Ukrainian nationalists for Russia. The protests are directed against Russia. If Ukraine can be realigned and brought into the fold of Washington’s Empire, Russia is further diminished as a world power.

To this effect NATO conducted war games against Russia last month in operation Steadfast Jazz 2013. http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2013/10... Finland, Ukraine, Georgia, and neutral Sweden have offered their military participation in the next iteration of NATO war games close to Russia’s borders despite the fact that they are not NATO members.



The diminishment of Russia as a powerful state is critical to Washington’s agenda for world hegemony. If Russia can be rendered impotent, Washington’s only concern is China.

The Obama regime’s “Pivot to Asia” announced Washington’s plan to surround China with naval and air bases and to interject Washington into every dispute that China has with Asian neighbors. China has responded to Washington’s provocation by expanding its air space, an action that Washington calls destabilizing when in fact it is Washington that is destabilizing the region.

China is unlikely to be intimidated, but could undermine itself if its economic reform opens China’s economy to western manipulation. Once China frees its currency and embraces “free markets,” Washington can manipulate China’s currency and drive China’s currency into volatility that discourages its use as a rival to the dollar. China is disadvantaged by having so many university graduates from US universities, where they have been indoctrinated with Washington’s view of the world. When these American-programmed graduates return to China, some tend to become a fifth column whose influence will ally with Washington’s war on China.

So where does this leave us? Washington will prevail until the US dollar collapses.

Many support mechanisms are in place for the dollar. The Federal Reserve and its dependent bullion banks have driven down the price of gold and silver by short-selling in the paper futures market, allowing bullion to flow into Asia at bargain prices, but removing the pressure of a rising gold price on the exchange value of the US dollar.

Washington has prevailed on Japan and, apparently, the European Central Bank, to print money in order to prevent the rise of the yen and euro to the dollar.

MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#41043 Feb 16, 2014
The Trans-Pacific and Trans-Atlantic Partnerships are designed to keep countries in the US dollar payments system, thus supporting the dollar’s value in currency markets.

Eastern European members of the EU that still have their own currencies have been told that they must print their own currencies in order to prevent a rise in their currency’s value relative to the US dollar that would curtail their exports.

The financial world is under Washington’s thumb. And Washington is printing money for the sake of 4 or 5 mega-banks.

That should tell the protestors in Ukraine all they need to know.

Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He was columnist for Business Week, Scripps Howard News Service, and Creators Syndicate. He has had many university appointments. His internet columns have attracted a worldwide following. His latest book, The Failure of Laissez Faire Capitalism and Economic Dissolution of the West is now available.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#41046 Feb 17, 2014
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

In Afghanistan, People Died for No Good Reason

And keeping the troops there won't change that.

By Sheldon Richman

Last week a remarkable exchange about the future role of the U.S. military in Afghanistan took place on the MSNBC program Andrea Mitchell Reports. In a discussion of the U.S. government’s uncertain negotiations with Afghan President Hamid Karzai over the continued presence of U.S. troops beyond 2014, NBC’s chief foreign correspondent, Richard Engel, pointed out that, between the Karzai talks and the negotiations with Afghanistan’s next-door neighbor Iran, the Obama administration has a daunting task.

Part of the administration’s objective, Engel said, is
to protect the legacy of America’s longest war. For a lot of the soldiers we’ve been speaking to, this is personal. They’ve come here time and time again. They’ve invested so much. They’ve put their family lives on hold. They’ve lost friends here. So the collapse of Afghanistan would be in a certain way a personal affront to what they have done. So you also have to keep the investment, personal and otherwise, that the United States has put into military into this conflict — and that’s also part of this calculation.

To which the show’s host, Chief Foreign Affairs Correspondent Mitchell, replied,“That’s probably the most important part of the calculation.”

Seriously? The most important part of the calculation as to whether the U.S. military will continue to occupy Afghanistan is what American military personnel have lost in the past 12 years? In the business world, that’s called throwing good money after bad. In economics, it’s known as sunk costs. The past is gone. Any action is future-oriented. The right question is, What would be the consequences of continued military occupation? Additional killing and dying will not bring back the dead or restore lost time, nor will it make the losses worthwhile.

Engel and Mitchell of course are not policymakers, but they are faithful conduits for the thinking of the ruling elite. So this exchange is not to be taken lightly.

Since the U.S. invasion in 2001, the Associated Press reports, at least 2,153 American military personnel have been killed. Asia scholar Juan Cole reports that 19,415 Americans were “wounded in Afghanistan badly enough to go to hospital.”

Afghan casualty data are harder to come by, and in recent years most casualties have apparently been inflicted by Taliban insurgents. Yet journalists Bob Dreyfuss and Nick Turse write,“But it’s an unassailable fact that many of those killed by anti-government forces would almost certainly be alive had the United States never invaded. And the victims of US forces and other foreign troops number in the many thousands.”

What good is there to show for that loss and shattering of life? Nothing. Afghanistan remains a violent place, nominally ruled by a corrupt and repressive propped-up government that will remain precarious no matter how long the U.S. military stays. President Karzai regularly gets bags of CIA cash, the illegal drug trade thrives with official connivance, and stoning is about to be introduced as the penalty for adultery.

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