Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

There are 38088 comments on the Worcester Telegram & Gazette story from Jun 4, 2007, titled Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says. In it, Worcester Telegram & Gazette reports that:

TEHRAN, Iran- Iran's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad yesterday said the world would witness the destruction of Israel soon, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported.

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MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40915 Jan 22, 2014
CIA Document Suggests U.S. Lied About Biological, Chemical Weapon Use in the Korean War

By Jeff Kaye (Contd.)

An Army epidemiologist, Col. Arthur Long, had been asked to submit a report on ISC’s work. Long, of course, found the ISC’s own report to be a “complete fabrication.” According to Long, the problem was “very few of [the ISC]… particular items of scientific ‘evidence’ could be demolished as such.”

So a committee was formed under Detlev Bronk, president of the National Academy of Sciences. But, Kloman bemoaned, the NAS committee had “accomplished very little of substance.” Bronk had disappointed them. A letter he wrote to support Long’s analysis was, according to Kloman,“pitched in an extremely low key — so much so as to be of dubious effect.” Even U.S. diplomats at the UN refused to promote Bronk’s letter.

The State Department sent a “circular airgram,” written by Kloman, to US embassies in all the countries represented by the ISC (Italy, France, Brazil, UK, Sweden), asking them to find scientists to refute ISC’s report. But the U.S. was having very little luck. Even the British “were pleasant but did nothing.”

Kloman was perturbed but somewhat understanding. The ISC scientists were, he said,“politics aside… highly competent people.”
The meeting turned towards countering BW claims at the UN, via pushing a U.S. call for an investigation by the United Nations of the Korean charges.(Of course, North Korea and China were at war with UN forces at the time.) Sneider described the different proposals the U.S. was putting forward, condemning the BW charges and calling for an investigation, while analyzing the results of the UN votes on these proposals. But the results of this campaign were “obscure.” There was a sense the U.S. had missed an opportunity to more effectively win propaganda points. Sneider told the group the State Department verdict on the anti-ISC campaign was “no victory and no defeat.”

The meeting continued with a discussion of “future possibilities” for action, but it ended with a bombshell.

The Dangers of an “Actual Investigation”

The PSB memorandum (PDF link) concluded with a stunning admission of duplicity, and — I cannot believe but the CIA’s censors were asleep at the switch here, to all our benefit — a revelation about U.S. military actions in the Korean War that from our standpoint in the 2010s have been buried for decades.

Mr. Kloman observed that US policy, while favoring the proposal for an on-the-spot investigation, does not favor an actual investigation. One reason for this, he said, is the feeling of the military that an investigating commission would inevitably come across the 8th Army preparations or operations (e.g. chemical warfare) which, if revealed, could do us psychological as well as military damage. This reasoning assumes that the commission would have authority to examine anything they liked on either side of the battle line.”

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#40916 Jan 22, 2014
MUQ wrote:
CIA Document Suggests U.S. Lied About Biological, Chemical Weapon Use in the Korean War
By Jeff Kaye (Contd.)
An Army epidemiologist, Col. Arthur Long, had been asked to submit a report on ISC’s work. Long, of course, found the ISC’s own report to be a “complete fabrication.” According to Long, the problem was “very few of [the ISC]… particular items of scientific ‘evidence’ could be demolished as such.”
So a committee was formed under Detlev Bronk, president of the National Academy of Sciences. But, Kloman bemoaned, the NAS committee had “accomplished very little of substance.” Bronk had disappointed them. A letter he wrote to support Long’s analysis was, according to Kloman,“pitched in an extremely low key — so much so as to be of dubious effect.” Even U.S. diplomats at the UN refused to promote Bronk’s letter.
The State Department sent a “circular airgram,” written by Kloman, to US embassies in all the countries represented by the ISC (Italy, France, Brazil, UK, Sweden), asking them to find scientists to refute ISC’s report. But the U.S. was having very little luck. Even the British “were pleasant but did nothing.”
Kloman was perturbed but somewhat understanding. The ISC scientists were, he said,“politics aside… highly competent people.”
The meeting turned towards countering BW claims at the UN, via pushing a U.S. call for an investigation by the United Nations of the Korean charges.(Of course, North Korea and China were at war with UN forces at the time.) Sneider described the different proposals the U.S. was putting forward, condemning the BW charges and calling for an investigation, while analyzing the results of the UN votes on these proposals. But the results of this campaign were “obscure.” There was a sense the U.S. had missed an opportunity to more effectively win propaganda points. Sneider told the group the State Department verdict on the anti-ISC campaign was “no victory and no defeat.”
The meeting continued with a discussion of “future possibilities” for action, but it ended with a bombshell.
The Dangers of an “Actual Investigation”
The PSB memorandum (PDF link) concluded with a stunning admission of duplicity, and — I cannot believe but the CIA’s censors were asleep at the switch here, to all our benefit — a revelation about U.S. military actions in the Korean War that from our standpoint in the 2010s have been buried for decades.
Mr. Kloman observed that US policy, while favoring the proposal for an on-the-spot investigation, does not favor an actual investigation. One reason for this, he said, is the feeling of the military that an investigating commission would inevitably come across the 8th Army preparations or operations (e.g. chemical warfare) which, if revealed, could do us psychological as well as military damage. This reasoning assumes that the commission would have authority to examine anything they liked on either side of the battle line.”
It must be those clever jews again....LOL Parrot head!
Uzi

Herzliya, Israel

#40919 Jan 23, 2014
hey muslim from arabia, so Israel is doing what to illegal immigrants ???

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/01/23/34723...
Uzi

Herzliya, Israel

#40920 Jan 23, 2014
Another new mosque????


A broadcaster speaking in Auckland, says, "I am truly perplexed that so many of my friends are against another mosque being built in Auckland. I think it should be the goal of every NZ'er to be tolerant regardless of their religious beliefs.
Thus, the mosque should be allowed, in an effort to promote tolerance.

That is why I also propose that two nightclubs be opened next door to the mosque, thereby promoting tolerance from within the mosque.
We could call one of the clubs, which would be gay, "The Turban Cowboy ", and the other a topless bar called "You Mecca Me Hot." Next door should be a butcher shop that specializes in pork, and adjacent to that an open-pit barbecue pork restaurant, called "Iraq o' Ribs."
Across the street there could be a lingerie store called "Victoria Keeps Nothing Secret", with sexy mannequins in the window modeling the goods. Next door to the lingerie shop there would be room for an adult sex toy shop, "Koranal Knowledge ", its name in flashing neon lights, and on the other side a liquor store called "Morehammered." All of this would encourage Muslims to demonstrate the tolerance they demand of us, so their mosque issue would not be a problem for others." Yes we should promote tolerance, and you can do your part by passing this on.

Fuck i-slime

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#40921 Jan 23, 2014
Uzi wrote:
Another new mosque????
A broadcaster speaking in Auckland, says, "I am truly perplexed that so many of my friends are against another mosque being built in Auckland. I think it should be the goal of every NZ'er to be tolerant regardless of their religious beliefs.
Thus, the mosque should be allowed, in an effort to promote tolerance.
That is why I also propose that two nightclubs be opened next door to the mosque, thereby promoting tolerance from within the mosque.
We could call one of the clubs, which would be gay, "The Turban Cowboy ", and the other a topless bar called "You Mecca Me Hot." Next door should be a butcher shop that specializes in pork, and adjacent to that an open-pit barbecue pork restaurant, called "Iraq o' Ribs."
Across the street there could be a lingerie store called "Victoria Keeps Nothing Secret", with sexy mannequins in the window modeling the goods. Next door to the lingerie shop there would be room for an adult sex toy shop, "Koranal Knowledge ", its name in flashing neon lights, and on the other side a liquor store called "Morehammered." All of this would encourage Muslims to demonstrate the tolerance they demand of us, so their mosque issue would not be a problem for others." Yes we should promote tolerance, and you can do your part by passing this on.
Fuck i-slime
ROTFLMAO
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40922 Jan 23, 2014
Now it is clear who is promoting hate.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40926 Jan 25, 2014
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

CIA Document Suggests U.S. Lied About Biological, Chemical Weapon Use in the Korean War

By Jeff Kaye



While historians of the Korean War BW controversy will find it fascinating to analyze what this document means in the context of the long-standing feud between those who believe one side or the other, I think what is most important for us today is the reopening of the question of U.S. use of chemical weapons in that war.

Most people are probably unaware that there ever were charges of CW use by the U.S. in Korea. I know I was. Yet as early as March 1952, a Commission of the International Association of Democratic Lawyers (IADL) had visited North Korea to examine charges of war crimes, releasing a report that included documentation of chemical warfare.

“American planes have on various occasions used asphyxiating and other gases or chemical weapons at least since 6th May, 1951,” the IADL commission wrote.“The commission took eye witness and expert testimony. Post-mortem examinations and autopsy results argued that some chemical had been used, with a “disagreeable smell, resembling the smell of chlorine…. In the affected area of the city it was noted that grass became yellow brown, objects containing an alloy of copper became blue green and rings of silver became black.”

Victims of another alleged attack “felt an itching on the exposed parts of the body…. they observed red spots which grew to a size like haricot beans, which then swelled and were filled with pus.” Some had injuries like “second-degree burns but with a much more, serious erosive action and taking a longer time to recover.”

Critics of the IADL wrote off their findings as communist, fellow-traveller propaganda. Before long, the main controversy over US war crimes turned to the BW allegations, but the North Koreans have never withdrawn their allegations. In the 2001 Report and Final Judgment on US Crimes in Korea 1945-2001 by the Korea International War Crimes Tribunal, whose indictment was drafted by former U.S. Attorney General Ramsay Clark, the U.S. was found guilty of use of both chemical and biological warfare during the Korean War.

A Circumstantial Case, Records Destroyed

It’s worth noting that the Chinese and North Koreans had ample reason to believe the U.S. capable of using biological or chemical warfare. The U.S. then had refused to sign the 1925 Geneva Protocol against use of chemical or biological weapons. The Chinese and Koreans knew the U.S. had amnestied the Japanese scientists of Unit 731, who had undertaken fatal experiments on both BW and CW on prisoners. Indeed, the ISC report had included a chapter on Unit 731.

Moreover, both Chinese and Koreans knew the Japanese had extensively used both biological, and even more so, chemical weapons during the Sino-Japanese War (coinciding in its last years with World War II).

An October 1988 article by historian Yuki Tanaka in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists,“Poison Gas: the Story Japan Would Like to Forget,” described the CW campaign waged by Japan in China, and how the U.S. helped keep the subject from coming up in war crimes trials at the end of WWII.

Uzi

Herzliya, Israel

#40929 Jan 25, 2014
More photos from opressed concentration camp Gaza. Israel you better stop this torture.

http://www.israellycool.com/2012/06/29/more-p...
Uzi

Herzliya, Israel

#40930 Jan 25, 2014
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an all out war, a war which will last for generations.

~Yasser Arafat~
~~~~~~~~~~
"The Palestinian people have no national identity. I, Yasser Arafat, man of destiny, will give them that identity through conflict with Israel."

~ Yasser Arafat ~
~~~~~~~~~~
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel. For our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of Palestinian people, since Arab national interest demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism".

~ Zahir Muhse'in ~

OK nazislamist pieces of shit, you got to say what about the leaders of that shithole??? No, they need no help.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40933 Jan 26, 2014
See the "Buttering and Soft Soap" – MUQ

That is how they brainwash people in West – MUQ

Biggest crime in west is to be called an "Anti Semite"?– MUQ

Anti-Semite is a ‘terrible word’
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Our PM took it upon himself last week to redefine the term

Of all the serious accusations that can be made, calling someone an anti-Semite is among the most serious.
What is it? The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington — where I have taken ashen-faced school kids on tours, to see the horror that real anti-Semitism causes — is a good place to seek a definition.
The museum simply defines anti-Semitism as “prejudice against or hatred of Jews.”
Hatred of Jews, the museum notes, preceded the coining of the term anti-Semitism in the modern era. Jews had of course been the target of pogroms, violence and discrimination long before anyone came up with a name for it.
Generally, however,“anti-Semitism” is defined as hatred of Jews — Merriam-Webster, Oxford and Britannica all say so.
Calling someone an anti-Semite, without justification, is defamatory — and it could get you hauled into court. In 2008, a former federal Liberal candidate, Lesley Hughes, sued Conservative cabinet minister Peter Kent, B’nai Brith and the Canadian Jewish Congress for suggesting that she had published anti-Semitic articles.
Four years later, the case settled, and the defendants issued a statement that “accepted and affirmed that Hughes is not an anti-Semite.”
An earlier 2001 New Brunswick Court of Appeal case found similarly: Calling someone an anti-Semite is defamatory “on the face of it.”
Brian Shiller is a Toronto lawyer currently litigating a case in which the labelling of someone as an “anti-Semite” is at issue.
“Calling someone anti-Semitic is defamatory,” says Shiller (who, full disclosure, has also been my lawyer in libel cases).“It’s very serious.”
No less than Nobel laureate, and one of the greatest men of our time, Elie Wiesel, agrees:“We must be very careful because to level an accusation of anti-Semitism is the most serious accusation.”
Which leads us to the simply extraordinary speech Prime Minister Stephen Harper made in Jerusalem last week. The speech was extraordinary because Harper, a Gentile, literally took it upon himself to redefine anti-Semitism.
We can speculate as to why he did so. Harper was hoping to curry favour with his Likud Party host, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Or, he was seeking to broaden the political support he enjoys in the Jewish community back home. Or, he honestly believes that any criticism of Israel at all — any — is anti-Semitic. Is it?
Sun Media’s David Akin, and others, certainly interpreted Harper’s speech to the Israeli Knesset as I do. Akin’s story was headlined:“The Harper doctrine: You’re all anti-Semites.”
Reading the speech, the headline is fair. Said Harper:“Intellectualized arguments against Israeli policies” are the “new anti-Semitism.”
That definition goes much, much further than the Holocaust Memorial Museum, dictionaries, and even Elie Wiesel himself.“I could not apply this terrible word to everyone” who periodically criticizes policies of the Israeli government, Wiesel warns.

And so on, and so on. You can see where this is going. Extending the definition of anti-Semitism might assist Stephen Harper politically, but it doesn’t really help those who are the actual targets of anti-Semitism. In a democracy — and Israel is one — occasional fair-minded criticism goes with the territory. It is the territory, in fact.
“An anti-Semite used to be a person who disliked Jews,” Auschwitz survivor

Dr. Hajo Meyer has said.“Now it is a person who Jews dislike.”
Words worth pondering, prime minister, as you return to Canada today.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40935 Jan 27, 2014
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

CIA Document Suggests U.S. Lied About Biological, Chemical Weapon Use in the Korean War

By Jeff Kaye

Meanwhile, the U.S. had become cozy with former Japanese war criminals, now being allowed back into Japanese civil and political life, while former collaborators with the Japanese were members of the U.S. backed Republic of Korea government.
The scope of Japan’s chemical war unleashed in China can be ascertained by the damage left afterward. According to Nationalist Chinese sources in Taipei, approximately 700,000 chemical munitions were left abandoned in China after World War II. The Chinese government says that approximately 2,000 people still die each year from encounters with such ordinance. An ongoing clean-up of the chemical mess, in part paid for by Japan, is still ongoing in 2013.

A list of Japanese chemical ordinance and equipment that was captured by the U.S. at the end of WWII was recently declassified, and, revealing here for the first time, documentation shows the chemical weapons were shipped to the Army’s Edgewood Arsenal “for detailed study.”



Historians

U.S. historians either ignore the subject of chemical warfare entirely, or dismiss the charges of chemical warfare.“The United States did not use gas warfare in Korea although authority to do so was requested by some of our commanders in the field,” wrote George Bunn in a 1969 article for the Wisconsin Law Review.

For whatever reason, a Chemical Mortar Battalion was sent from Edgewood Arsenal to the Korean theater, though I could not find evidence they had actually used chemical weapons. Perhaps this is evidence of the “preparations” Kloman alluded to and what Bunn meant by “requested authority.” We won’t know until the government opens up its archives completely. Meanwhile those who lived through the period are quickly passing from this world.

There are some documented, if circumstantial, pointers to possible CW activities. For instance, according to one document, the U.S. Air Force Psychological Warfare Board had a Biological-Chemical Warfare team under Lt. Col. L. N. Stead.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40936 Jan 29, 2014
No activity on this thread, I think every one agrees with the topic of thread that Israel' end is near.

A country founded on mischief, half truth, tyranny and injustice should have a short leaf of life, it is only natural.

If agreed by all, this thread could be closed.

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#40937 Jan 30, 2014
MUQ wrote:
No activity on this thread, I think every one agrees with the topic of thread that Israel' end is near.
A country founded on mischief, half truth, tyranny and injustice should have a short leaf of life, it is only natural.
If agreed by all, this thread could be closed.
no activity because you keep copy and paste over and over, you are unable to argue. You make no point, you just copy what the hitler's say. You are a hater of people.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40940 Jan 30, 2014
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>no activity because you keep copy and paste over and over, you are unable to argue. You make no point, you just copy what the hitler's say. You are a hater of people.
Why it stops other people to post on threads? I am only one person who pitches for Islam, all others write against it, so why they do not write any more.

I think they are convinced that inevitable is on the wall, any regime based on mischief, corruption and injustice has but a short leash of life and the present zionist state of Israel is the personification of all these "Good qualities"!!
w wman uk

Southampton, UK

#40941 Jan 30, 2014
MUQ wrote:
No activity on this thread, I think every one agrees with the topic of thread that Israel' end is near.
A country founded on mischief, half truth, tyranny and injustice should have a short leaf of life, it is only natural.
If agreed by all, this thread could be closed.
The reasons are. There have been several incarnations of muq you are by far the weakest and most boring. Your lack of courage means that when asked aukward question you scuttle off on hide in cut and paste.
islam is crumbling from within . It know that rats turn to canabalisim when starved the same is true of islam for the islamists are killing each other daly and in most islamic countries the spirits of the children are being perverted and devoured by the curse of extrem islam.
Uzi

Herzliya, Israel

#40942 Jan 31, 2014
w wman uk wrote:
<quoted text> The reasons are. There have been several incarnations of muq you are by far the weakest and most boring. Your lack of courage means that when asked aukward question you scuttle off on hide in cut and paste.
islam is crumbling from within . It know that rats turn to canabalisim when starved the same is true of islam for the islamists are killing each other daly and in most islamic countries the spirits of the children are being perverted and devoured by the curse of extrem islam.
Agree, islam is the worst shit ever to hit this planet. It will go away just like shit down the toilet.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#40944 Jan 31, 2014
Uzi wrote:
<quoted text>
Agree, islam is the worst shit ever to hit this planet. It will go away just like shit down the toilet.
Hell is a whirlpool and bottomless pit. The wicked and the righteous come in all races, creeds, and colors. "But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest whose waters cast up mire and dirt. There is no peace saith my God, to the wicked" Isaiah 57:20-21.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40946 Feb 1, 2014
Uzi wrote:
<quoted text>
Agree, islam is the worst shit ever to hit this planet. It will go away just like shit down the toilet.
Dream on, there is no problem in that.

But do not forget that hate and hatred beget hate and hatred.

Jews before they started Zionist movement, were treated much better in Muslim countries than they were treated by the Christians.

But this generation and the one above have forgotten all that, and your comment above shows your real nature.

Islam and Muslims will not vanish away just because of your wish, but you may have to pay for your comments, do not forget.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40947 Feb 1, 2014

CIA Document Suggests U.S. Lied About Biological, Chemical Weapon Use in the Korean War

By Jeff Kaye

Meanwhile, it is also a fact that many documents of the Army Chemical Corps, which had responsibility for both chemical and biological weapons, were destroyed after recall from the National Archives in 1956. See Stephen Endicott and Edward Hagerman (York University),“United States Biological Warfare during the Korean War: rhetoric and reality.”

Endicott and Hagerman are also the authors of a major analysis of the evidence for U.S. use of biological weapons during in Korea. See The United States and Biological Warfare: Secrets from the Early Cold War and Korea by Stephen Endicott and Edward Hagerman (1999, University of Indiana Press). A totally opposite point of view can be found Milton Leitenberg’s “False Allegations of U.S. Biological Weapons Use during the Korean War”, in Terrorism, War, or Disease? Unraveling the Use of Biological Weapons (2008, Stanford Security Studies, Anne L. Clunan, Peter R. Lavoy, and Susan B. Martin, eds).

Of course, chemical weapons of a sort were definitely used during the Korean War. The United States extensively used napalm in an extensive bombing campaign that destroyed most of North Korea’s cities and killed hundreds of thousands of civilians. According to one source,“During the Korean War, the United States dropped approximately 250,000 pounds of napalm per day.” Later, in the late 1960s, the U.S. sprayed the defoliant Agent Orange, also being used widely in the Vietnam War, near the demilitarized zone in Korea.

There is no book detailing the charges or refutation of charges of chemical warfare in the Korean War. It’s never alluded to in Seymour Hersh’s 1968 book, Chemical and Biological Warfare, nor in any book on U.S. chemical warfare that I’ve looked at, except perhaps in a very passing way. If I am wrong, I’m hoping someone will point that out to me.

“Whose Sarin?”

Seymour Hersh’s article in The London Review of Books,“Whose Sarin?”, set off a storm of commentary about his motives, his accuracy, and the significance of the revelations. Hersh claimed the Obama administration had been quick to “cherry-pick” intelligence findings. Obama had “failed to acknowledge something known to the US intelligence community: that the Syrian army is not the only party in the country’s civil war with access to sarin….”

For some reason, Hersh did not bring up the history he knows so well of U.S. secrecy and misdirection when it comes to use of chemical and biological weapons. Failing to do so only weakened his argument in what is otherwise a compelling analysis of events inside the Obama administration after news broke of the August 21, 2013 chemical weapons attack in a neighborhood near Damascus.

But the document and evidence I’ve laid out above should make anyone think twice, if not three times, about relying on U.S. assurances or propaganda regarding the use of chemical weapons by anybody. U.S. citizens should call for an opening of all archival material, which after 60 or more years cannot constitute a national security threat, though it may be an national shame and embarrassment for the U.S. government.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#40948 Feb 1, 2014
Good golly. This statement was made seven years ago. Israel is still here but Ahmadinejad is simply yesterday's news.

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