Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

There are 38088 comments on the Worcester Telegram & Gazette story from Jun 4, 2007, titled Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says. In it, Worcester Telegram & Gazette reports that:

TEHRAN, Iran- Iran's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad yesterday said the world would witness the destruction of Israel soon, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported.

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MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40764 Jan 4, 2014
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

What If a Drone Strike Hit an American Wedding?

But after a dozen or more deaths at a Yemeni wedding, don't expect anything to change.

By Conor Friedersdorf

December 16, 2013 "Information Clearing House - "The Atlantic" - On my wedding day, my wife and I hired a couple of shuttle vans to ferry guests between a San Clemente hotel and the nearby site where we held our ceremony and reception. I thought of our friends and family members packed into those vehicles when I read about the latest nightmarish consequence of America's drone war:

"A U.S. drone mistakenly targeted a wedding convoy in Yemen's al-Baitha province after intelligence reports identified the vehicles as carrying al Qaeda militants," CNN reported, citing government sources in Yemen. "The officials said that 14 people were killed and 22 others injured, nine in critical condition. The vehicles were traveling near the town of Radda when they were attacked."

Can you imagine the wall-to-wall press coverage, the outrage, and the empathy for the victims that would follow if an American wedding were attacked in this fashion? Or how you'd feel about a foreign power that attacked your wedding in this fashion?
The L.A. Times followed up on the story and found slightly different casualty figures: "The death toll reached 17 overnight, hospital officials in central Bayda province said Friday. Five of those killed were suspected of involvement with Al Qaeda, but the remainder were unconnected with the militancy, Yemeni security officials said."

MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40765 Jan 4, 2014
More than a dozen dead, many more injured, and an unknown number of survivors whose lives have suddenly taken a nightmarish turn the likes of which we cannot imagine, and all for the sake of five people suspected of ties to al-Qaeda. How many actual al-Qaeda terrorists would we have to kill with drones in Yemen to make the benefits of our drone war there outweigh the costs of this single catastrophic strike? If U.S. drone strikes put American wedding parties similarly at risk would we tolerate our targeted-killing program for a single day more? Our policy persists because we put little value on the lives of foreign innocents.

Even putting them through the most horrific scene imaginable on their wedding day is but a blip on our media radar, easily eclipsed by a new Beyonce album.

The Obama Administration dishonestly talks of "surgical" drone strikes, as if surgeries ever result in double digit casualties. "Before any strike is taken, there must be near-certainty that no civilians will be killed or injured—the highest standard we can set," President Obama promised back in May.

The CNN story about this latest strike says, "The convoy consisted of 11 vehicles, and the officials said that four of the vehicles were targeted in the strikes." Is attempting to pick off alleged militants while in a wedding convoy with innocents the highest standard we can set to avoid civilian deaths? If so, the results speak for themselves.

In that same May speech, Obama said:
Remember that the terrorists we are after target civilians, and the death toll from their acts of terrorism against Muslims dwarfs any estimate of civilian casualties from drone strikes. So doing nothing is not an option. Where foreign governments cannot or will not effectively stop terrorism in their territory, the primary alternative to targeted lethal action would be the use of conventional military options.

As I’ve already said, even small special operations carry enormous risks. Conventional airpower or missiles are far less precise than drones, and are likely to cause more civilian casualties and more local outrage.

And invasions of these territories lead us to be viewed as occupying armies, unleash a torrent of unintended consequences, are difficult to contain, result in large numbers of civilian casualties and ultimately empower those who thrive on violent conflict.

Does anyone believe that, if not for our lethal drone program, the United States would've sent the Air Force or ground troops to fire on this wedding party? The thousands of drone strikes we've carried out in recent years suggest that drones decrease the cost of lethal action so much that the U.S. takes it more often now than we would if we didn't have a drone fleet at the ready—and not, as their defenders sometimes argue, that drones are saving us from air strikes and ground invasions.

Finally, Obama says that drone strikes are ordered only against targets who pose "a continuing, imminent threat to Americans." Is anyone else skeptical that the targets in this wedding convoy would be immenently attacking us right now if not for those Hellfire missiles?(For more on how Obama uses the word imminent in a misleading way see here.)

Even if you disagree with the growing global opposition to America's targeted-killing program, and believe that the frequent use of lethal drone strikes is necessary, reflect on the U.S. reaction to killing more than a dozen people in this wedding convoy, including many innocents. The moral course, if we must have a drone program that puts civilians at risk, would be to apologize for any terrible mistakes that we make, pay reparations to the wronged survivors, and explain what steps will be taken to insure nothing like this will ever happen again.

Instead, according to CNN, "U.S. officials declined to comment on the report."
Copyright © 2013 by The Atlantic Monthly Group
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40766 Jan 4, 2014
CK wrote:
1.

Iran / Aryan has only been drawn on the map since ww1 & 2. Before this was Persia.

ISLAM in intolerant of not only Jews in Arabia but all non-muslims.

Destroy all churches in the Arabian Peninsula – Saudi Grand Mufti
16 March, 2012

The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia has said that all churches in the Arabian Peninsula must be destroyed. The statement prompted anger and dismay from Christians throughout the Middle East.
http://rt.com/news/peninsula-saudi-grand-muft ...

2.

Not interested in friends in the mideast. They are all lunatics that should be isolated to the desert.

There is no "Jewish media", The media is ran by Rockefeller's CFR who are all masonic.

The masonic NWO benefited from 9/11. They wanted to go across the entire mideast..

Seven Wars in Five Years
Gen. Wesley Clark
http://youtu.be/9RC1Mepk_Sw

Why they did this had NOTHING TO DO WITH ISRAEL. Instead this masonic NWO have been relocating ISLAM into Europe and Russia and north America and even Australia.

Dick Cheney at the CFR
http://youtu.be/BbnpN07J_zg
more on CFR
http://youtu.be/_BPhYEFGaGM

So, the U.S. Congress supports Israel China Mexico Egypt and the EU as they are all member states of the U.N.

Japan & Korea have been occupied for 60 years due to the U.N.
Ans.

01. It does not matter by which name a country is known. Iran is existing since thousands of years.

Is it not strange that Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia "orders to demolish all Churches within Saudi Arabia in 2012" when there are no Churches in Saudi Arabia for 1400 years!!

You people thrive on such misinformations!!

02 Yes, if you do not any friendship with ME, you will get none.

Why you SHOULD NOT have friends that live in Desert?

03. What is this Masonic idea? You people are so daft in coining new words.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40767 Jan 4, 2014
Zioni wrote:
SO you are unable to give even one example of what the US has done in the region to strengthen Israel? I have given you a dozen and you still believe you are correct??

US doesn't have friends it has interests. Israel was a viable interest as it protected US interests in the region at minimal cost.

US Presidents say a lot but actions speak louder than words. There is plenty of evidence that Obama would be hostile to Israel from his background and the people who influenced him throughout his life.
So prove the Jews control the media. and if this is really the case why does all MSM consider the WB occupied when there is no legal basis for the green line as a border?

If they were pro-Zionist they would at the least give the Zionist perspective.

Not sure what 9/11 has to do with anything. Are you blaming it on the Jews??

Iran got the best deal as US invaded their enemy Iraq, and has been fighting Sunni Muslims for the past decade.
Ans.

I gave you many incidents but you did not acknowledge any.

What were those 27 US Veto in Security Council? Whom did they benefit?

Why US should help Iran by fighting with Sunni nations "apposed to Iran"?

You are trying to be "so innocent" and like "official spokesperson" who speak as if they are "as white as snow".

Obama would kill himself, before ordering dismantling of Isreal!!

Do you think, every one else is dummy?
Zioni

Israel

#40768 Jan 4, 2014
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
I gave you many incidents but you did not acknowledge any.
What were those 27 US Veto in Security Council? Whom did they benefit?
Why US should help Iran by fighting with Sunni nations "apposed to Iran"?
You are trying to be "so innocent" and like "official spokesperson" who speak as if they are "as white as snow".
Obama would kill himself, before ordering dismantling of Isreal!!
Do you think, every one else is dummy?
You gave a number of incidents which had no real benefit to Israel I gave a detailed reply on each point.

The Security Council is not US action in the region. It is US action at the UN and I never denied the benefit of the US veto.

US is working with Iran and Iraq Shiite to fight Al-Qaida in the area as they have gained a foothold between Iraq and Syria.

I don't think Israel is innocent but compared to most other countries in the world it is doing pretty good on the freedom scale especially with the situation its in.

Where do you get the idea Obama would kill himself before dismantling Israel?
Most of the leadership in the US are Arabists.
pen

Cameron, MO

#40769 Jan 4, 2014
9inchstud wrote:
Both of those nations should end. Israel stole Palestine and created another holocaust and Iran is just insane too.
You pay 2 billion a year free tax money in tribute to Israel and Saudi Arabia but politicians don't tell you that and not counting protection for them so they live off Germany and the States and are lazy bums time to grow up and go it alone!

"Israel" did no such thing. The British seized the region from the Turks.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40770 Jan 4, 2014
pen wrote:
<quoted text>
"Israel" did no such thing. The British seized the region from the Turks.
And who helped create the nation of Isreal?

The same British?

So it is looped back?

Since: Jan 12

USA

#40771 Jan 5, 2014
MUQ wrote:
Is it not strange that Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia "orders to demolish all Churches within Saudi Arabia in 2012" when there are no Churches in Saudi Arabia for 1400 years!!

03. What is this Masonic idea? You people are so daft in coining new words.

Read closer: "the Arabian Peninsula" -- that is ALL of Arabia and why Christian churches burn in Syria today. Christianity is to be eliminated from all Muslim occupied lands.

The point was ISLAM is not only intolerant to Israel & Jews but all non-muslims.


You are familiar with Knights Templar Crusades -- this is masonic fraternities rebirthed NEW world order. See the work of Harun Yahya a Turk who writes on these matters and produces videos. One of his films about Templars & world gov.

•The Knights Templar and Freemasonry
by Harun Yahya
The history of the Knights Templar becoming Freemasonry, banking, the Illuminati, and numerous other societies.
http://protocolshistory.blogspot.com/2010/09/...

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#40772 Jan 5, 2014
MUQ wrote:
http://www.informationclearing house.info/article37144.htm
What If a Drone Strike Hit an American Wedding?
But after a dozen or more deaths at a Yemeni wedding, don't expect anything to change.
By Conor Friedersdorf
December 16, 2013 "Information Clearing House - "The Atlantic" - On my wedding day, my wife and I hired a couple of shuttle vans to ferry guests between a San Clemente hotel and the nearby site where we held our ceremony and reception. I thought of our friends and family members packed into those vehicles when I read about the latest nightmarish consequence of America's drone war:
"A U.S. drone mistakenly targeted a wedding convoy in Yemen's al-Baitha province after intelligence reports identified the vehicles as carrying al Qaeda militants," CNN reported, citing government sources in Yemen. "The officials said that 14 people were killed and 22 others injured, nine in critical condition. The vehicles were traveling near the town of Radda when they were attacked."
Drone strikes are precise, I doubt the people in the wedding were innocent. it's a great target at a wedding. What a better place to gather all the terrorist together celebrating? The lesson here is be careful who's wedding you are attending.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#40773 Jan 5, 2014
Islam's Latest Contributions to Peace "Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh
to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29

2014.01.04 (Pattani, Thailand)- A man drinking tea at a shop is shot three times in the head by Muslim terrorists.
2014.01.03 (Cairo, Egypt)- Muslim Brotherhood activists shoot dead a man who 'yelled insults' from the window of his house.
2014.01.02 (Balad Ruz, Iraq)- Nineteen people at a car dealership are pulled into pieces by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2014.01.02 (Latifiya, Iraq)- Muslim militants wipe out five shoppers at a market with a well-planted bomb.
2014.01.02 (Beirut, Lebanon)- An al-Qaeda suicide bomber takes out five people outside a restaurant.
2014.01.01 (Quetta, Pakistan)- A bus carrying Shia pilgrims is hit by Sunni suicide bomber, leaving three dead.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#40774 Jan 5, 2014
Jan 3 - There are over 935,000 displaced people in the Central African Republic, roughly one-fifth of the overall population, according to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees. The UNHCR reckons that this situation is the aftermath of the coup d'etat of March 2013. It was carried out by the Islamic rebels of the Seleka Front, who put their leader, Michel Djotodia, in power. He is the first Muslim president in the history of a country with a large Christian majority.

Yumpin Yimminy

“Yee vizz”

Since: Dec 12

Central Connecticut

#40775 Jan 5, 2014
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
And who helped create the nation of Isreal?
The same British?
So it is looped back?
And so it goes. Everything you see today, at one time belonged to somebody else. You can't turn back the clock just because you hate a certain class of people. Do you like to see yourself talk? Sure looks like it.
LIONHEARTJUDA

Minneapolis, MN

#40776 Jan 5, 2014
ISRAEL will not be destroyed. God is with israel. Plus if iran will disprove the prophecy not fulfill it.

The most dangerous thing to israel is israel.

There are a people wether recognized or not, who will always be a danger to israel. Always as long as life goes.

THIS marginalized, abandoned, ignored, starved, and lost in a thick hase of confusions and lies will wake up.

The greatest threat to israel is a THIRD WORLD COUNTRY WITH NO PENNY TO DEFFEND IT SELF.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#40777 Jan 5, 2014
Yumpin Yimminy wrote:
<quoted text>
And so it goes. Everything you see today, at one time belonged to somebody else. You can't turn back the clock just because you hate a certain class of people. Do you like to see yourself talk? Sure looks like it.
well said, we can't go back to the old testament and decide who was there first. what what muhammad with his child wife do?
w wman uk

Sheffield, UK

#40778 Jan 5, 2014
Zioni wrote:
<quoted text>
Muslims in Israel have more freedom and rights than many Western Democracies where they can't cover themselves up, build minarets, build mosques, even pig blood is used to stop Muslims building in Europe
So off the top of my head France, Britain, Holland, Belgium,
Then there is the fact that Europeans, even elected officials are unable to speak the truth about Islam for fear of being sent to jail. Even if the Imam down the road says the exact same thing on a regular basis.
Austria, Finland, France, Italy and the Netherlands are example where people were put on trial for speaking the truth about Islamism.
Not even getting into Kosher and Halal.
Churchill wrote the truth about islam 100 years ago and l quote
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

"Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytising faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."
You see mug the curse is confirmed everyday by the followers of the moon cult by their hatered to each other and non believers.
lie all you like but the evidence is here before us every day.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40779 Jan 5, 2014
LIONHEARTJUDA wrote:
ISRAEL will not be destroyed. God is with israel. Plus if iran will disprove the prophecy not fulfill it.
The most dangerous thing to israel is israel.
There are a people wether recognized or not, who will always be a danger to israel. Always as long as life goes.
THIS marginalized, abandoned, ignored, starved, and lost in a thick hase of confusions and lies will wake up.
The greatest threat to israel is a THIRD WORLD COUNTRY WITH NO PENNY TO DEFFEND IT SELF.
This is a strange logic, God is with Isreal, was God with isreal when there was no Isreal in the world for 2000 years?

And it is a strange thing to see Christians defending Isreal, the same people who persecuted Jews for 2000 years.

All this is the handiwork of Jewish controlled media in western countries.

The greatest threat to Isreal is Isreal itself, the price of inequity is death.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40780 Jan 5, 2014
CK wrote:
01. Read closer: "the Arabian Peninsula" -- that is ALL of Arabia and why Christian churches burn in Syria today. Christianity is to be eliminated from all Muslim occupied lands.

02. The point was ISLAM is not only intolerant to Israel & Jews but all non-muslims.

03. You are familiar with Knights Templar Crusades -- this is masonic fraternities rebirthed NEW world order. See the work of Harun Yahya a Turk who writes on these matters and produces videos. One of his films about Templars & world gov.

•The Knights Templar and Freemasonry
by Harun Yahya
The history of the Knights Templar becoming Freemasonry, banking, the Illuminati, and numerous other societies.
http://protocolshistory.blogspot.com/2010/09/ ...
Ans.

01. The Arabian Peninsula is what is still known in Map as Arabian Peninsula. There was no other religion to be permitted in Arabian Peninsula.

02. Christian Churches were existing in other parts of world and Muslims continued them. If Churches were burning for past 1400 years, how many would have been left in those countries?

Islam' is the "most tolerant" of all religions towards those who are not its members.

But Islam is not hypocritic to say that "all religions are same and it does not matter which ever you believe in".

03. Knight Templar, or Freemasons or Zionists….all these are connected with each other and their aim is to establish a Jews Only state in Palestine and re-build Solomon Temple at the place of Al Aqsa mosque.

The names could be changing but the idea is same.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40781 Jan 5, 2014
Zioni wrote:
01. You gave a number of incidents which had no real benefit to Israel I gave a detailed reply on each point.

02. The Security Council is not US action in the region. It is US action at the UN and I never denied the benefit of the US veto.

03. US is working with Iran and Iraq Shiite to fight Al-Qaida in the area as they have gained a foothold between Iraq and Syria.

04. I don't think Israel is innocent but compared to most other countries in the world it is doing pretty good on the freedom scale especially with the situation its in.

05. Where do you get the idea Obama would kill himself before dismantling Israel?

06. Most of the leadership in the US are Arabists.
Ans.

01. We keep on moving in circles it seems, come back to same starting point in the end.

02. So US Veto is a UN Issue and not a ME issue? Why should US (a Pro Arab according to you) would use it Veto in UN to save Isreal from UN sanctions?

Why did not US its Veto to help their "allies and partners" like Iran, Iraq or Saudi Arabia at any time?

03. US is picking up fight with every nation, because of Al Qaeda. And what is in Al Qaeda that US is against?

04. I like your admission that Isreal is not "innocent"!!

That is a great PLUS point forcing you to agree that it is not innocent.

It is not only "not innocent" but it is the root cause of most problems we are seeing in ME and other countries.

05. Ask Obama, if even in his wildest dreams he thinks of a world without Isreal?

06. If what US is doing in ME is because most of US leadership is Arabist, what would happen when they become Zionist?

Think about it!!

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#40782 Jan 5, 2014
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.

Islam' is the "most tolerant" of all religions towards those who are not its members.
LOL...LOL....LOL...LOL....LOL. ..LOL....LOL...LOL....LOL...LO L....LOL...LOL.... Qur'an (8:39)-“And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.” Translation from the Noble Quran

Qur'an (9:29)- "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth,(even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." Suras 9 and 5 are the last "revelations" that Muhammad handed down - hence abrogating what came before, which includes the oft-quoted verse 2:256 -"Let there be no compulsion in religion...".

Qur'an (9:5) "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them..." Prayer and charity are among the Five Pillars of Islam, as salat and zakat. See below. Islam sanctions violence as a means of coercing religion.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40783 Jan 5, 2014
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>LOL...LOL....LOL...LOL ....LOL...LOL....LOL...LOL.... LOL...LOL....LOL...LOL.... Qur'an (8:39)-“And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.” Translation from the Noble Quran
Qur'an (9:29)- "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth,(even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." Suras 9 and 5 are the last "revelations" that Muhammad handed down - hence abrogating what came before, which includes the oft-quoted verse 2:256 -"Let there be no compulsion in religion...".
Qur'an (9:5) "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them..." Prayer and charity are among the Five Pillars of Islam, as salat and zakat. See below. Islam sanctions violence as a means of coercing religion.
Fighting involves two parties, if one is willing to fight why should you shrink from?

Islam is a practical religion, it has solutions for every one, those who want to live in peace and those who want to fight.

To which group you belong to?

Peace lovers or those who bully others?

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