Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

There are 38088 comments on the Worcester Telegram & Gazette story from Jun 4, 2007, titled Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says. In it, Worcester Telegram & Gazette reports that:

TEHRAN, Iran- Iran's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad yesterday said the world would witness the destruction of Israel soon, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported.

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MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40591 Dec 22, 2013
Gray wrote:
RE: YOUR FIRST POINT
<quoted text>
For nearly 60 years I have been reading what has been regarded as “Current Events” aka “The News”
It was only after I was discharged from the military that I found that “the News” had very little to do with reality. Additionally, I discovered the West’s most egregious pro Israqel/pro Zionist bias after returning from the Mid East (Islamic World in 1973) where I spent 10 -11 moths wandering from country to country, by myself,(via camelback, bus, foot etc) and living from the kindness of Muslim strangers.I discovered that everything (all the thought shaping etc) I had been told about those “Evil Muslims” was cruel and racist B.S.
To be brief, I was not surprised to discover the following:
“DECLASSIFIED SENATE INVESTIGATION FILES REVEAL CLANDESTINE, ISRAELI PR CAMPAIGN IN AMERICA”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/PrintArticle.php...
EXCERPT: "It is frightening how easily some in the American news media surrendered to a foreign public relations campaign.“CONTINUED
“The AZC's internal "Information and Public Relations Department" reports.”
http://irmep.org/ila/azc/
EXCERPT:“Between 1962-1963 the Senate Foreign Relations Committee subpoenaed internal reports of the American Zionist Council during its investigation into the activities of registered agents of foreign principals.”CONTINUED 
The following reports detail how the American Zionist Council used the funding in a sophisticated campaign to cajole and intimidate news media, subvert open debate about Israel and undermine reporting about key issues of the day...
The Senate investigation closed down the conduit, but the extensive propaganda activities still go on." CONTINUED
“SIX ZIONIST COMPANIES OWN 96% OF THE WORLD’S
MEDIA”
..

Gray
Thank you brother for your input.

That Western People have "child like" faith in every thing they read and listen in Media is not a new phenomenon, it is centuries old.

I remember that in 1850 s one Indian Muslim learned men went to London on a religious mission. In those days India was ruled by the Mighty British Empire and every White Man was a Demi-god sort of things.

Going to London and meeting "real white men" in their den was the ultimate which "colored people of India" could imagine.

After a few months, he wrote back to his friends in India:

"I had the impression that average British man would be very intelligent and he will analyze every report and every news item before accepting it. But after reaching here, I realized that I am mistaken. Average man here never analyzes what he reads in newspapers, he just believes in it..... no mission has any future in these countries unless they establish a good News paper here".

That advice was given in 1850 s. Jews took it whole heartly , while Muslims are still trying to establish a single good quality International Newspaper in English in any of the Western country.

Even if they try, the main line media would see to it that it is called by accusing it to be "soft on terrorism" and propagating ideas that are "damaging to US dreams" etc!!
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40592 Dec 22, 2013
USA Born wrote:
02 My God sent His only begotten Son so the world might be saved. Your god sent you mo who gave you allah who
commands you kill me if I don't convert.

03. Are you going to deny that jihad has been called on the U.S.?

04. That's your logic, I never said that.
The catholics removed books from the canon. The text is still available.

05. I'll never reject the comforter Jesus spoke of. I reject your belief the comforter is exclusive to Islam.


06. Jesus said no man comes to the Father except through Him.
Jesus also said He would return or no flesh would be saved. No mention of mo or his god.
Ans.

02. There is nothing like a "Begotten Son of God"

Can you explain to me, what you mean by the word "Begotten" here. How can God "beget" any one?

And why did He beget "Only" a Son and not Daughter?

03. Islamic Jihad:

What you know about Jihad? Jihad in Arabic means to struggle and to strive.

Every one is engaged in his or her own Jihad.


04. How could Catholics remove books from Bible while their Bible consists of 73 books? Perhaps you got confused?

05. Please analyse the qualities of Comforter which Jesus mentioned and explain how it fits with Your understanding of Comforter.

06. You are misquoting the words of Jesus. No one comes to father except thru me, is not lierally possible.

It has to be interpreted allegorically. We Muslims believe in jesus also , therefore we are not excluded from this saying of Jesus.

Jesus coming back to save humans is the idea of Paul and not of jesus.

You are welcome to become a Disciple of Paul if you wish, we would like to stand by jesus and his teachings.

PS:

It is clear that your knowledge of your own scripture is very shallow.

How can we expect that you have anything but most shallow knowledge of other's religions and their beliefs.
Read THE BOOK

Belgrade, Serbia

#40595 Dec 23, 2013
LOL GTFO spits on Jews, saying they import Muslims into Europe, funny how he didnt say a thing about USA and majority of Western Europe supporting genocide over Christians and destruction of their Churches in Bosnia, Kosovo, supporting Muslims. You also supported Turks against Christian Armenians so cut the crap
Read THE BOOK

Belgrade, Serbia

#40596 Dec 23, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. Look at you post letter by letter and you called Allah a murderer or not? Allah is what God is in English. Why you got so much incensed?
So US and NATO forces are representing Satan, this is a news for me.
Why you use double standards, when we say that those involved in terror activities and no Muslims and they are not acting on Islamic teachings. Why have double standards?
I didn't call God a murderer you retard. Your own false book Quran does that- Read Sura a lil or should I as a non muslim teach you.

And yes they are satanic. Look at George Bush, Clinton, Barrack Obama, Tony Blair, John Kerry, Queen of England, various EU politicians, all of them are members of either secret societies or freemason/illuminati satanic cults.
Read THE BOOK

Belgrade, Serbia

#40597 Dec 23, 2013
And I also didnt say God will bring the end of the world like global cataclysm or whole world devoured in half. It's about Nuclear War, coming of the antichrist, false prophets persecution of Christians, mark of the beast as the global system of payment, I was talking about that kind of End Times

You don't recognize Jesus as The Son of God even though Holy Spirit gave Maria a child, what's there to discuss further with you. recognizing him as ordinary prophet wont do
USA Born

Claremont, CA

#40598 Dec 23, 2013
Gray wrote:
RE: YOUR FIRST POINT
<quoted text>
For nearly 60 years I have been reading what has been regarded as “Current Events” aka “The News”
It was only after I was discharged from the military that I found that “the News” had very little to do with reality. Additionally, I discovered the West’s most egregious pro Israqel/pro Zionist bias after returning from the Mid East (Islamic World in 1973) where I spent 10 -11 moths wandering from country to country, by myself,(via camelback, bus, foot etc) and living from the kindness of Muslim strangers.I discovered that everything (all the thought shaping etc) I had been told about those “Evil Muslims” was cruel and racist B.S.
To be brief, I was not surprised to discover the following:
“DECLASSIFIED SENATE INVESTIGATION FILES REVEAL CLANDESTINE, ISRAELI PR CAMPAIGN IN AMERICA”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/PrintArticle.php...
EXCERPT: "It is frightening how easily some in the American news media surrendered to a foreign public relations campaign.“CONTINUED
“The AZC's internal "Information and Public Relations Department" reports.”
http://irmep.org/ila/azc/
EXCERPT:“Between 1962-1963 the Senate Foreign Relations Committee subpoenaed internal reports of the American Zionist Council during its investigation into the activities of registered agents of foreign principals.”CONTINUED 
The following reports detail how the American Zionist Council used the funding in a sophisticated campaign to cajole and intimidate news media, subvert open debate about Israel and undermine reporting about key issues of the day...
The Senate investigation closed down the conduit, but the extensive propaganda activities still go on." CONTINUED
“SIX ZIONIST COMPANIES OWN 96% OF THE WORLD’S
MEDIA”
http://www.cnewsworld.com/world-news/six-zion... ’s-media/
“The power of lies, deceptions and disinformation as Americans pay the price of collective stupidity.”
QUOTE:
“I don’t care if Americans think we’re running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government.  I just care that we get to keep running them.”         Joel Stein, Los Angeles Times, December 18, 2008.
Because Israeli media are far more open and objective, I don't mean that "the Jews run all media" but ZIONISTS definitely dominate what has formed innocently gullible American minds for 60 years
So, when someone says they learned something, formed a opinion based on “the News” I can only wonder how long that person has believed everything that has poured into his head from bias Textbooks,“Best Sellers”,“History” books ( the real “History” Re: WW 2 etc is generally censored for now.
I also watch for the effect of what I “pour into my head” now and research the sources and the sources of the sources; everybody has an agenda & I’d be lying if I said I was always completely unbias.
Thanks,
Gray
I agree our media is lacking, It never tells the whole story.

I don't believe Muslims are evil. I believe good and evil exist in every facet of life. If a white person commits murder, it doesn't make sense that all white people are then murderers. I don't believe that about the Muslims or the Jews.

I do believe Israel has the right to exist.

.
USA Born

Claremont, CA

#40599 Dec 23, 2013
Read THE BOOK wrote:
And I also didnt say God will bring the end of the world like global cataclysm or whole world devoured in half. It's about Nuclear War, coming of the antichrist, false prophets persecution of Christians, mark of the beast as the global system of payment, I was talking about that kind of End Times
You don't recognize Jesus as The Son of God even though Holy Spirit gave Maria a child, what's there to discuss further with you. recognizing him as ordinary prophet wont do
I agree with you 100%. Some of the posters here are also posting on Blaming Israel for the Carniege.

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TG7CBME...

Hope to see you there.
USA Born

Claremont, CA

#40600 Dec 23, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
02. There is nothing like a "Begotten Son of God"
Can you explain to me, what you mean by the word "Begotten" here. How can God "beget" any one?
And why did He beget "Only" a Son and not Daughter?
03. Islamic Jihad:
What you know about Jihad? Jihad in Arabic means to struggle and to strive.
Every one is engaged in his or her own Jihad.
04. How could Catholics remove books from Bible while their Bible consists of 73 books? Perhaps you got confused?
05. Please analyse the qualities of Comforter which Jesus mentioned and explain how it fits with Your understanding of Comforter.
06. You are misquoting the words of Jesus. No one comes to father except thru me, is not lierally possible.
It has to be interpreted allegorically. We Muslims believe in jesus also , therefore we are not excluded from this saying of Jesus.
Jesus coming back to save humans is the idea of Paul and not of jesus.
You are welcome to become a Disciple of Paul if you wish, we would like to stand by jesus and his teachings.
PS:
It is clear that your knowledge of your own scripture is very shallow.
How can we expect that you have anything but most shallow knowledge of other's religions and their beliefs.
LOL. My knowledge of my scriptures is very shallow yet you don't understand begotten Son.
Sorry muq, your jeesus is not the begotten Son. That is why you don't understand.

Nobody said you were excluded by Jesus' sayings. Nobody is. The Jesus in the Bible is not the same Jesus of your qaran. You claim we got it wrong and mo got it right. I don't believe that. I believe the Bible.

Does your jeesus tell you what will happen before the battle of Armageddon? Just curious.
USA Born

Claremont, CA

#40601 Dec 23, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
These are "evergreen" prophesies. To be used when Jews gather at some place and get temporary power....and forgiven when the Jews are scattered as "dust" and loose their power.
Ready made prophesies to be used according to situation!!
See, you don't believe the prophets. You use their names in your new religion, that's all.
If you really knew my Bible like you claim, you'd know that Israel has been gathered never to be scattered again.
Ready made prophecy? You're making me laugh. Jeremiah was written 627 - 585 B.C. Way before islam. Back in the land as the scriptures promised.
Read THE BOOK

Belgrade, Serbia

#40602 Dec 23, 2013
Christianity is also way older than false religion Islam. Both Christians and Jews consider Mohammad a false prophet

Oh here's one interesting fact: what was Mohammad's religion before he grew up, before Islam?

It was Judaism :) and Islam = modified Judaism+Christianity
Read THE BOOK

Belgrade, Serbia

#40603 Dec 23, 2013
Here's Arab MUQ's best comment

"If you reject Islamic Jihad, then obviously you agree with michief and tyranny to be practised on the earth."

Who are you to take over the world and dictate people how to live their lives under your false copied religion? According to you all these murders of non muslims are justified. Do we Christians call for "Holy War" trying to eradicate you all? hell no. The tyranny you talk about comes from elite like Rockafellers, Rotschilds, Bush family, Queen of England etc not from religion. Your religion IS tyranny and Jihad is your excuse to rule the world. When I see those Islamists and Talibans on TV calling for Jihad it makes me puke. I bet God is real damn happy with you all and with what you do

No wonder countless Muslims convert to Christianity every year because majority of Muslims think and behave like you. Your religion is a slavery and primitive savagery.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40605 Dec 23, 2013
Read THE BOOK wrote:
Christianity is also way older than false religion Islam. Both Christians and Jews consider Mohammad a false prophet
Oh here's one interesting fact: what was Mohammad's religion before he grew up, before Islam?
It was Judaism :) and Islam = modified Judaism+Christianity
What is your comment about same Jews rejecting Jesus and cursing him?

How come you take Jews criticism of our prophet as "Authentic proof" of their Unbiased analysis?

What type of logic is this?
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40606 Dec 23, 2013
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

The Great Austerity Shell Game: Here's How the Capitalist Scam Works

Let government borrow for crisis bailouts, then insist cuts pay for them. Guess who loses.

By Richard Wolff

November 04, 2013 "Information Clearing House - Center-right governments in Britain and Germany do it. So do the center-left governments in France and Italy. Obama and the Republicans do it, too. They all impose "austerity" programs on their economies as necessary to exit the crisis afflicting them all since 2007. Politicians and economists impose austerity now much as doctors once stuck mustard plasters on the skins of the sick.

Austerity policies presume that the chief economic problems today are government budget deficits that increase national debts. Austerity policies solve those problems mainly by cutting government spending, and secondarily, by limited tax increases. Reducing expenditures while raising revenues does cut governments' deficits and their needs to borrow.

National debts grow less or drop depending on how much each government's expenditures decrease and its taxes increase. Obama's austerity policies during 2013 started 1 January, when he raised payroll taxes on everyone's annual incomes up to $113,700. Then, on 1 March, the "sequester" lowered federal expenditures. Thus, 2013's US deficit will drop sharply from 2012's.

Obama will likely impose more austerity: cutting social security and Medicare benefits to compromise with Republicans. Similarly, European governments maintain their "austerity" programs. Even France's government, officially "anti-austerity" and "socialist", has a new budget with typical austerity cuts in social expenditures.
The accumulated evidence shows that austerity programs usually make economic downturns worse. Why, then, do they remain the preferred policy for most capitalist governments?

When capitalist economies crash, most capitalists request – and governments provide – credit market bailouts and economic stimuli. However, corporations and the rich oppose new taxes on them to pay for stimulus and bailout programs. They insist, instead, that governments should borrow the necessary funds. Since 2007, capitalist governments everywhere borrowed massively for those costly programs. They thus ran large budget deficits and their national debts soared.

Heavy borrowing was thus capitalists' preferred first policy to deal with their system's latest crisis. It served them well.
Borrowing paid for government rescues of banks, other financial companies, and selected other major corporations. Borrowing enabled stimulus expenditures that revived demand for goods and services. Borrowing enabled government outlays on unemployment compensation, food stamps, and other offsets to crisis-induced suffering.

In these ways, borrowing helped reduce the criticism, resentment, anger, and anti-system tendencies among those fired from jobs, evicted from homes, deprived of job security and benefits, etc. Government borrowing had these positive results for capitalists – while saving them from paying taxes to get those results.

Nor is that all. Corporations and the rich used the money they saved by keeping governments from taxing them to provide the huge loans governments therefore needed. Middle- and lower-income people could lend little if anything to their governments. Corporations and the rich, in effect, substituted loans to the government instead of paying more in taxes. For those loans, governments must pay interest and eventually repay them.

MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40607 Dec 23, 2013
Read wrote:
1.

I didn't call God a murderer you retard. Your own false book Quran does that- Read Sura a lil or should I as a non muslim teach you.

And yes they are satanic. Look at George Bush, Clinton, Barrack Obama, Tony Blair, John Kerry, Queen of England, various EU politicians, all of them are members of either secret societies or freemason/illuminati satanic cults.

2.

And I also didn't say God will bring the end of the world like global cataclysm or whole world devoured in half. It's about Nuclear War, coming of the antichrist, false prophets persecution of Christians, mark of the beast as the global system of payment, I was talking about that kind of End Times

You don't recognize Jesus as The Son of God even though Holy Spirit gave Maria a child, what's there to discuss further with you. recognizing him as ordinary prophet wont do
Ans.

What is an "ordinary prophet"? You have no idea of what being a Prophet of God means.

Highest place for any human being is to be chosen by God as His Prophet and Messenger.

It is God who allocates the mission of each prophet, no one becomes an "ordinary prophet" just because his mission is for a particular country or for a limited time.

Their Reward is with their Lord and Creator.

And for your information, Jesus is included amongst the "Great Prophets of God"!!

He is in the same list that has Noah, Abraham, Moses and Our prophet.

Does that not satisfy you? You want to argue with God?

But please be assured that No Prophet will rise to the level of Creator!!

It is your faulty logic and excesses that is so "embarrassing for Jesus" on the last day!!
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40608 Dec 23, 2013
USA wrote:
1.

LOL. My knowledge of my scriptures is very shallow yet you don't understand begotten Son.

Sorry muq, your jeesus is not the begotten Son. That is why you don't understand.

02. Nobody said you were excluded by Jesus' sayings. Nobody is. The Jesus in the Bible is not the same Jesus of your Quran. You claim we got it wrong and mo got it right. I don't believe that. I believe the Bible.

03. Does your jesus tell you what will happen before the battle of Armageddon? Just curious.

2.

04. See, you don't believe the prophets. You use their names in your new religion, that's all.

05. If you really knew my Bible like you claim, you'd know that Israel has been gathered never to be scattered again.
Ready made prophecy? You're making me laugh. Jeremiah was written 627 - 585 B.C. Way before islam. Back in the land as the scriptures promised.
Ans.

01. Yes I do not understand what Begotten Son means, please explain it to me?

Why should God beget a Son? Why He NEEDS a Son? And why Son and not daughter? Why only a Single Son?

Unless you know what you mean by the word Begotten Son, all your arguments are vain.

02. Jesus in Quran is what is the true picture of a Prophet of God. A prophet that was born by a Special Miracle of God.

St. Paul's Jesus is not Jesus but "Risen Christ" and there is nothing in reality as this "Risen Christ".

Quran came to project the TRUE picture of Jesus.

03. What is this battle of Armageddon?

04. Who says we do not believe in prophets?

05. First of all, do you KNOW who wrote your Bible? Who are the real authors?

Most of the books were written by anonymous hands.

Read the History of Biblical books, before you take every word in them as Dogmatic!!

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#40609 Dec 23, 2013
Gray wrote:
RE: YOUR FIRST POINT
<quoted text>

http://www.cnewsworld.com/world-news/six-zion... ’s-media/
“The power of lies, deceptions and disinformation as Americans pay the price of collective stupidity.”

Gray
Why do you lie so much?

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#40610 Dec 23, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
What is an "ordinary prophet"? You have no idea of what being a Prophet of God means.
If we follow your beloved so called prophet of allah, the great "mo" then we see a man that had a huge sex drive, marrying a little child, encouraging rape, stealing and killing innocent children. We see a man very similar to Bin laden and had hatred like Hitler.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#40611 Dec 23, 2013
MUQ wrote:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...
The Great Austerity Shell Game: Here's How the Capitalist Scam Works
Let government borrow for crisis bailouts, then insist cuts pay for them. Guess who loses.
By Richard Wolff
November 04, 2013 "Information Clearing House - Center-right governments in Britain and Germany do it. So do the center-left governments in France and Italy. Obama and the Republicans do it, too. They all impose "austerity" programs on their economies as necessary to exit the crisis afflicting them all since 2007. Politicians and economists impose austerity now much as doctors once stuck mustard plasters on the skins of the sick.
Austerity policies presume that the chief economic problems today are government budget deficits that increase national debts. Austerity policies solve those problems mainly by cutting government spending, and secondarily, by limited tax increases. Reducing expenditures while raising revenues does cut governments' deficits and their needs to borrow.
National debts grow less or drop depending on how much each government's expenditures decrease and its taxes increase. Obama's austerity policies during 2013 started 1 January, when he raised payroll taxes on everyone's annual incomes up to $113,700. Then, on 1 March, the "sequester" lowered federal expenditures. Thus, 2013's US deficit will drop sharply from 2012's.
Obama will likely impose more austerity: cutting social security and Medicare benefits to compromise with Republicans. Similarly, European governments maintain their "austerity" programs. Even France's government, officially "anti-austerity" and "socialist", has a new budget with typical austerity cuts in social expenditures.
The accumulated evidence shows that austerity programs usually make economic downturns worse. Why, then, do they remain the preferred policy for most capitalist governments?
When capitalist economies crash, most capitalists request – and governments provide – credit market bailouts and economic stimuli. However, corporations and the rich oppose new taxes on them to pay for stimulus and bailout programs. They insist, instead, that governments should borrow the necessary funds. Since 2007, capitalist governments everywhere borrowed massively for those costly programs. They thus ran large budget deficits and their national debts soared.
Heavy borrowing was thus capitalists' preferred first policy to deal with their system's latest crisis. It served them well.
Borrowing paid for government rescues of banks, other financial companies, and selected other major corporations. Borrowing enabled stimulus expenditures that revived demand for goods and services. Borrowing enabled government outlays on unemployment compensation, food stamps, and other offsets to crisis-induced suffering.
In these ways, borrowing helped reduce the criticism, resentment, anger, and anti-system tendencies among those fired from jobs, evicted from homes, deprived of job security and benefits, etc. Government borrowing had these positive results for capitalists – while saving them from paying taxes to get those results.
Nor is that all. Corporations and the rich used the money they saved by keeping governments from taxing them to provide the huge loans governments therefore needed. Middle- and lower-income people could lend little if anything to their governments. Corporations and the rich, in effect, substituted loans to the government instead of paying more in taxes. For those loans, governments must pay interest and eventually repay them.
Yes we know you hate USA, why don't u go back to wonderful India? Mr Indian.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40612 Dec 23, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>If we follow your beloved so called prophet of allah, the great "mo" then we see a man that had a huge sex drive, marrying a little child, encouraging rape, stealing and killing innocent children. We see a man very similar to Bin laden and had hatred like Hitler.
That shows you are as ignorant about life history of our prophet, as you are ignorant of "Who planned and executed" 9/11.

Thanks for displaying your stupidity in front of every one.

You think that just by calling names you would be able to belittle the personality of our prophet?

If you spit on moon, it would only fall on your face.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40613 Dec 23, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Yes we know you hate USA, why don't u go back to wonderful India? Mr Indian.
I do not hate USA, USA was a great country, had it not being controlled by Jewish and Zionist lobby.

Why you people do not wake up and pretend that sleep is the best course for you?

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