Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

There are 38083 comments on the Worcester Telegram & Gazette story from Jun 4, 2007, titled Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says. In it, Worcester Telegram & Gazette reports that:

TEHRAN, Iran- Iran's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad yesterday said the world would witness the destruction of Israel soon, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported.

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nutjobs here

Israel

#40314 Nov 28, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
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I have not heard Canada or Saudi Arabia oppose that deal. It was announced only a few hours ago and israel is the ONLY country on earth to oppose it.
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Just shows that you jump to conclusions with no knowledge.

Canada was very clear about its position. Maybe stick with a subject you can follow?

Both Christianity and Islam basically took Judaism and changed it. They are not their own religions.
Christianity was created by Jews. They got rid of the commandments, promised salvation. Who wouldn't sign up.
Islam took the Talmud and many of its laws and adapted them. Than massacring or oppressing anyone who opposed them.

The only reason that the land is holy to Christians and Muslims is because of Judaism.

So the Muslim oppression on the land for hundreds of years never happened?? The fact that Jews were consistently massacred by both sides and when under Muslim rule they were treated as Dhimmis.

Even as late as the 1800's Jews were treated differently to Muslims in W.Palestine.

Muslims have been massacring Jews and other continuously for centuries. Live in your dream world if you like but this is the reality.

Muslims are never happy with what you get, you want everything. Mecca and Medina not enough for you?

Amazing how you deny Jewish rights to the Temple Mount, Hebron and other locations. Another little fact for you. The only time in the history of Jerusalem where there has been freedom of religion for all is now under Israelis rule.

The claim the Jews have on the land is based on numerous things. Firstly the historic connection, secondly the fact that Jerusalem is seem throughout Jewish history. In songs, prayers etc, Thirdly the Mandate for Palestine gives the legal right for Israel to exist on all the land, lastly Jerusalem was a run down tiny city until the Jews started to return in numbers in the 1840's. At the time maybe 15000 residents. Now near 1,000,000.

Israel has agreed to a Palestinian state a number of times and also autonomy in the middle. It is the Arab nations who refuse to give human rights to Palestinians inside their borders.

South Africa is now just as racist as it was but often from the other side. The country is still split into regions by ethnic group.

Israel on the other hand has equal rights for all its citizens.

Under Muslim Jordanian rule over 50 synagogues in Jerusalem alone were destroyed. Gravestones were used as latrines and too pave the streets. What you claim is bulls&^t. Jews were not allowed in at all.
What about non-Muslims in Saudi Arabia where they have separate roads for infidels.

100 years ago there were nearly 900,000 Jews living throughout the Arab world, 20% of the region was Christian. Now there are barely a handful of Jews left in Arab countries and the Christian population has dropped to 2-5%.

You speak of freedom while targeting homosexuals. More hypocrisy. So only the freedoms you think should be? Another problem with Islam.

Palestinian BR 3.5
Israeli Arab BR 3.2
Israeli Jewish BR 3.0

Jewish BR is rising for the past decade while Arab BR is dropping.
The Surprising thing is that the secular Israeli Jews are having many more kids than those in other Democracies.

The Palestinian population figures generally stated were predictions and not the real figures. They also double counted many Arab Israelis and those living in Jerusalem. The Figures are off by 1,000,000 Palestinians.

This whole scare tactic that Jews will be the minority in Israel is ridiculous and has no basis in reality either.
rio

London, UK

#40315 Nov 28, 2013
nutjobs here wrote:
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the Mandate for Palestine gives the legal right for Israel to exist on all the land,
Never!!

The British Mandate in Palestine was never destined to give the land to Jewish settlers to create their homeland.
It never intended to expel the Arabs, nor endorse ethnic cleansing of the Arab population.
That's something the zionists decided themselves.

The British intended to maintain a balance of population between Arabs and Jews, and to favour no ine.

Many British politicians had second thought about the Balfour Declaration and didn't want to implement it. They saw how the zionist settlers treated the indinegous Arabs already. The zionists terrorises the Arabs, with the Irgun, the Stern gangm the Hannagah, etc... killing plenty and attacking the British soldiers sent to protect them too.

The Mandate for Palestine never gave the right for Israel to be declared as a Jewish state. That is a blatant lie!!!
It's pure zionist propaganda.
nutjobs here

Israel

#40316 Nov 28, 2013
rio wrote:
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Never!!
The British Mandate in Palestine was never destined to give the land to Jewish settlers to create their homeland.
It never intended to expel the Arabs, nor endorse ethnic cleansing of the Arab population.
That's something the zionists decided themselves.
The British intended to maintain a balance of population between Arabs and Jews, and to favour no ine.
Many British politicians had second thought about the Balfour Declaration and didn't want to implement it. They saw how the zionist settlers treated the indinegous Arabs already. The zionists terrorises the Arabs, with the Irgun, the Stern gangm the Hannagah, etc... killing plenty and attacking the British soldiers sent to protect them too.
The Mandate for Palestine never gave the right for Israel to be declared as a Jewish state. That is a blatant lie!!!
It's pure zionist propaganda.
More ignorant arrogance from you.

BEFORE WE START ANSWER ME THIS. IF THE POINT OF MANDATES WAS NOT TO CREATE COUNTRIES WHY DID EVERY MANDATE CREATE A COUNTRY?

Article 2
The Mandatory shall be responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home, as laid down in the preamble, and the development of self-governing institutions, and also for safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion.
Article 6
The Administration of Palestine, while ensuring that the rights and position of other sections of the population are not prejudiced, shall facilitate Jewish immigration under suitable conditions and shall encourage, in co-operation with the Jewish agency referred to in Article 4, close settlement by Jews on the land, including State lands and waste lands not required for public purposes.

It is clear from above the idea was to create a Jewish state as soon as they were able to.

It never intended to expel nor endorse ethnic cleansing. It was the Palestine Arabs who began in the 1920's to ethnically cleanse Jews from the West Bank. Again you don't seem to care about Ethnic cleansing against Jews only Arabs. It is something the Arabs brought on themselves by started a war after dozens of massacres against Jews and thousands of attacks.

It was not the British job to decide what to do. As trustees of the Mandate their job was to follow the Mandate. While they were supposed to encourage Jewish immigration to public land as is clear above in the Article, they did the opposite. They encouraged Arab immigration and gave 50% of the arable land to them while giving only 5% to the Jews. The League of Nations even sent a delegation in 1929-30 which made it clear that the Brits were going against the Mandate. So while institutions White Papers from 1921 against Jewish immigration they encouraged Arabs from surrounding areas to come to the land. Even giving the arable land meant for Jews according to the text of the Mandate.

British politicians? Jews treating Arabs bad? YOU ARE MAKING THINGS UP AS USUAL. If you have any evidence of this go ahead. On the contrary no land was stolen from Arabs, it was the Arabs who carried out the massacres not Jews. Search for the HEBRON MASSACRE 1929 for starters.

YOU REALLY NEED A HISTORY LESSON AS LECHI, HAGANAH, AND STERN WERE CREATED TO COUNTER THE ARAB MASSACRES AGAINST JEWS.

When did the British soldiers ever protect the Jews in Palestine. They took away their weapons, arrested them, even helping the Arabs to kill Jews. You again have no idea what you are talking about.

So then please explain what Mandates were and why every other Mandate created a country but according to your logic the Jews don't have the same rights? IDIOT.

STILL WAITING FOR ANY LEGAL BASIS FOR A PALESTINIAN STATE ON THE LAND?
USA Born

Claremont, CA

#40317 Nov 28, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Jesus never lied, it were his biographers, none of whom were his chosen disciples, lied in his name and put statements which Jesus never made.
Like Paul passing off his philosophy in the name of Jesus.
When Jesus Christ shall come for second time, very near to end of time, he will expose the falsehood which these people did in his name and that will "confirm" what Quran was saying all this time.
That Jesus was after all a human and chosen prophet of God.
If you live to see the third temple built in Israel, put down your false god and read the Bible. Things get real interesting.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40320 Nov 28, 2013
USA Born wrote:
<quoted text>
If you live to see the third temple built in Israel, put down your false god and read the Bible. Things get real interesting.
The advice is to you also. All these generations before you, were they living or were they dead?
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40321 Nov 28, 2013
The so called Mandate was "taken by force" by Britain, they had no power of mandate in the first place.

It was a Joint conspiracy by Britain and Zionists to get their toe hold in Palestine by hook and by crook and then implement the agenda agreed by "Lord Bilfour" even before the start of WW-1.

The Jewish and Zionist lobby "opened up their purses" to Britain after getting this "secret agenda" agreed to.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40322 Nov 28, 2013
RF wrote:
01. And Jesus will say he was sorry for all those miracles he did and for saying he was the great I am. And then Jesus will say the prophet was really mo, the womanizer with the little girl wife and all his rapes and stealing is justified.....LOL Wake up dude, mo was false. Just look what Islam produces today. Nothing but hate and violence. Muhammad in his Quran permits husbands to beat their wives.

4:34 Husbands should take full care of their wives, with [the bounties] God has given to some more than others and with what they spend out of their own money. Righteous wives are devout and guard what God would have them guard in the husbandsÂ’ absence. If you fear high-handedness from your wives, remind them [of the teaching of God], then ignore them when you go to bed, then hit them. If they obey you, you have no right to act against them. God is most high and great.(Haleem)
Ans.

Jesus will not say that he was sorry for the miracles what he showed, in fact he is recorded to have scolded "hard hearted Jews" of his time, that is the same miracles were showed to people of Sodom and Gomorrah, they would have become believer!!

And certainly he would ask his followers, why did you reject the "Comforter" which I so clearly prophesized!!

And what is your "objection " to the Quranic verse you mentioned?

You did not like the phrase "beat them"? And have you said what Paul said to women who attend Churches with their heads "uncovered"?

Using double standards again I see, which is becoming standard trait for most of Western people.

PS:

You changing colors, I have noticed many time.

While talking to Muslims, you pose as a Christian and while talking to Christians you pose as an Atheist!!
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#40323 Nov 29, 2013
USA Born wrote:
<quoted text>
If you live to see the third temple built in Israel, put down your false god and read the Bible. Things get real interesting.
Israel is not interested in building the 3rd Temple. Even though it can, it will not build. This is a fact, which you do not know.

The 3rd Temple has to be built only by the Messiah as only he knows the exact boundary coordinates. No one knows the exact and precise location.

Till then, we will look after the Temple Mount. You can go to the wall and wail.

The Christian Bible is not trustworthy. I have read it many times and find it full of hocus pocus.
nutjobs here

Israel

#40324 Nov 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
The so called Mandate was "taken by force" by Britain, they had no power of mandate in the first place.
It was a Joint conspiracy by Britain and Zionists to get their toe hold in Palestine by hook and by crook and then implement the agenda agreed by "Lord Bilfour" even before the start of WW-1.
The Jewish and Zionist lobby "opened up their purses" to Britain after getting this "secret agenda" agreed to.
Stop making things up, THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS, 52 NATIONS OF THE WORLD GOT TOGETHER IN 1920 IN San Remo and created numerous Mandates.
Britain as the trustee of the mandate for Palestine was supposed to follow the articles of the agreement.

Instead of following the Mandate and encouraging Jewish immigration it did the opposite. It restricted Jewish immigration while encouraging Arab IMMIGRATION. Look up White Paper of 1921 for starters.
It was Britain's job to help the Jews create institutions and a governing capability.
They gave 50% of the arable land to Arabs and gave 5% to Jews.

If Britain was working with the Jews it would have done the exact opposite. What you say as usual makes no logical sense.
nutjobs here

Israel

#40325 Nov 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Using double standards again I see, which is becoming standard trait for most of Western people.
PS:
You changing colors, I have noticed many time.
While talking to Muslims, you pose as a Christian and while talking to Christians you pose as an Atheist!!
It is the Muslim nation who use a double standard. Most of their countries being at the least semi-apartheid's, oppressing anyone unlike them. Than they go to the West and expect people to bow to their will.

You also clearly realize that this person doesn't represent all Westerners.
USA Born

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#40326 Nov 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
The advice is to you also. All these generations before you, were they living or were they dead?
I don't get your question. How can someone be a part of a generation if they did not live in it?
rio

London, UK

#40327 Nov 29, 2013
nutjobs here wrote:
<quoted text>
More ignorant arrogance from you.
BEFORE WE START ANSWER ME THIS. IF THE POINT OF MANDATES WAS NOT TO CREATE COUNTRIES WHY DID EVERY MANDATE CREATE A COUNTRY?
Article 2
The Mandatory shall be responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home, as laid down in the preamble, and the development of self-governing institutions, and also for safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion.
Article 6
The Administration of Palestine, while ensuring that the rights and position of other sections of the population are not prejudiced, shall facilitate Jewish immigration under suitable conditions and shall encourage, in co-operation with the Jewish agency referred to in Article 4, close settlement by Jews on the land, including State lands and waste lands not required for public purposes.
It is clear from above the idea was to create a Jewish state as soon as they were able to.
It never intended to expel nor endorse ethnic cleansing. It was the Palestine Arabs who began in the 1920's to ethnically cleanse Jews from the West Bank. Again you don't seem to care about Ethnic cleansing against Jews only Arabs. It is something the Arabs brought on themselves by started a war after dozens of massacres against Jews and thousands of attacks.
It was not the British job to decide what to do. As trustees of the Mandate their job was to follow the Mandate. While they were supposed to encourage Jewish immigration to public land as is clear above in the Article, they did the opposite. They encouraged Arab immigration and gave 50% of the arable land to them while giving only 5% to the Jews. The League of Nations even sent a delegation in 1929-30 which made it clear that the Brits were going against the Mandate. So while institutions White Papers from 1921 against Jewish immigration they encouraged Arabs from surrounding areas to come to the land. Even giving the arable land meant for Jews according to the text of the Mandate.
British politicians? Jews treating Arabs bad? YOU ARE MAKING THINGS UP AS USUAL. If you have any evidence of this go ahead. On the contrary no land was stolen from Arabs, it was the Arabs who carried out the massacres not Jews. Search for the HEBRON MASSACRE 1929 for starters.
YOU REALLY NEED A HISTORY LESSON AS LECHI, HAGANAH, AND STERN WERE CREATED TO COUNTER THE ARAB MASSACRES AGAINST JEWS.
When did the British soldiers ever protect the Jews in Palestine. They took away their weapons, arrested them, even helping the Arabs to kill Jews. You again have no idea what you are talking about.
So then please explain what Mandates were and why every other Mandate created a country but according to your logic the Jews don't have the same rights? IDIOT.
STILL WAITING FOR ANY LEGAL BASIS FOR A PALESTINIAN STATE ON THE LAND?
More false zionist propaganda.

Do you rxpect to convince your detractors, or do you try to justify yourself perhaps?

Waste of time.

We know all there is to know about the zionists.
Uzi

Herzliya, Israel

#40329 Nov 29, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Israel is not interested in building the 3rd Temple. Even though it can, it will not build. This is a fact, which you do not know.
The 3rd Temple has to be built only by the Messiah as only he knows the exact boundary coordinates. No one knows the exact and precise location.
Till then, we will look after the Temple Mount. You can go to the wall and wail.
The Christian Bible is not trustworthy. I have read it many times and find it full of hocus pocus.
and the quoran is full of shit
rio

London, UK

#40331 Nov 29, 2013
Uzi wrote:
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and the quoran is full of sh*t
what does that makes the Bible then?

The Qu'ran is based upon it, don't you know?
All the Jewish prophets are in the Qu'ran.

Judaism, Christianity and Islam are 3 Abrahamic religions sharing the same God and most of the same beliefs.
USA Born

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#40332 Nov 29, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Israel is not interested in building the 3rd Temple. Even though it can, it will not build. This is a fact, which you do not know.
The 3rd Temple has to be built only by the Messiah as only he knows the exact boundary coordinates. No one knows the exact and precise location.
Till then, we will look after the Temple Mount. You can go to the wall and wail.
The Christian Bible is not trustworthy. I have read it many times and find it full of hocus pocus.
Really? Personal opinion won't stop the scriptures from being fulfilled.

No preparations for the temple have been made? You're living in denial.


You don't look after the Temple Mount, you temporarily occupy what a King of Israel built. Your allah and mo had nothing to do with it. They weren't around then and they are not around now. The world is on G-d's time, not yours, mine or any false god's.
USA Born

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#40333 Nov 29, 2013
rio wrote:
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what does that makes the Bible then?
The Qu'ran is based upon it, don't you know?
All the Jewish prophets are in the Qu'ran.
Judaism, Christianity and Islam are 3 Abrahamic religions sharing the same God and most of the same beliefs.
The writers of the qaran did use the Judeo-Christian scriptures to created their own god. The people of the Bible and the qaran may have the same names but that is all.

The muslim god and jeesus were created by men. We can see scripture being fulfilled. Believe it or not, we are all in one way or another, a part of that.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#40334 Nov 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
Jesus will not say that he was sorry for the miracles what he showed, in fact he is recorded to have scolded "hard hearted Jews" of his time, that is the same miracles were showed to people of Sodom and Gomorrah, they would have become believer!!
And certainly he would ask his followers, why did you reject the "Comforter" which I so clearly prophesized!!
It was very very clear that the comforter was not "mo". The only one mo comforted was little girls and many women. JOHN 16:13-15: "But when he, the Spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own, he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will bring glory to me by taking from what is mine and making it know to you. All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will take from what is mine and make it known to you."



Clearly not mo. The Comforter is the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit came during Pentecost, and the disciples received Him. As the disciples continued to live, the words Jesus spoke about the Comforter's ministry were fulfilled. Christians today experience the Comforter in their lives as Jesus said that they would.



The suggestions of various Muslim writers that Muhammad could be the Comforter have been shown to be inaccurate, implausible, or unworkable due to ignorance of the Greek language, poorness of thought, or deliberate deception of their readership.



DonÂ’t you, being a Muslim reader, deserve better than the deceptive ideas Muslim writers have fed you?
rio

London, UK

#40335 Nov 29, 2013
USA Born wrote:
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The writers of the qaran did use the Judeo-Christian scriptures to created their own god. The people of the Bible and the qaran may have the same names but that is all.
The muslim god and jeesus were created by men. We can see scripture being fulfilled. Believe it or not, we are all in one way or another, a part of that.
Jews, Christians and Muslims pray the same God, but observe different religions doing so. Men may create religions around their beliefs, but they don't create God.

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#40338 Nov 29, 2013
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
Jews, Christians and Muslims pray the same God, but observe different religions doing so. Men may create religions around their beliefs, but they don't create God.
Muslims and Jews believe God as One, Christians as three in one.
USA Born

Claremont, CA

#40339 Nov 29, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Muslims and Jews believe God as One, Christians as three in one.
Never met anyone who said God was three in one. Just because someone believes in one God doesn't mean it's the same one.

What about Messianic Jews, what would you call them?

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