Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

There are 38083 comments on the Worcester Telegram & Gazette story from Jun 4, 2007, titled Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says. In it, Worcester Telegram & Gazette reports that:

TEHRAN, Iran- Iran's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad yesterday said the world would witness the destruction of Israel soon, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported.

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grave digger

Sparta, MO

#40217 Nov 20, 2013
MUQ wrote:
The reason that Guantánamo remains operational, and with so many stuck within it, has nothing to do with practical issues concerning release or transfer or how some should be tried. Instead, those trapped in Guantánamo are the victims of a political conflict, specifically between Congress and the White House over plans to house and try alleged terrorists in the US.
Congress cut off funds to move accused men to the US for detention and insisted on onerous conditions for the transfer of those remaining out of the US, including elaborate arrangements for monitoring.
Obama too must be held responsible for this continuing disgrace. It was the president, after all, who signed into law the National Defence Authorisation Act, jeopardising his ability to close Guantánamo after threatening to veto it.
As Amnesty International and others have pointed out, despite the ban on US funds for transfers contained in the NDAA, another clause, Section 1028, does give Obama the broad right to resolve some cases – such as Shaker Aamer's – whose return has been requested by the UK government. The resolution of the Shaker Aamer case, as Amnesty argued earlier this year, would be a symbolic step that would demonstrate that Obama has not abandoned his commitment to close Guantánamo.
The well-documented deployment of sustained and abusive interrogation techniques, sexual humiliation and extreme violence in Guantánamo is something that demeans America. That an American president has allowed these depraved practices to continue on his watch is more shocking still. Until America closes Guantánamo Bay, it cannot, as it likes to, assert its moral authority over the rest of the world.
© 2013 Guardian News and Media Limited
all them muslims in that place is an enemy,,,a terrorist,,,and they dont need to be housed on American soil prisons,,,cuz they dont deserve special nothing,,,like private cells so the other inmates wont get at them,,,forget that crap,,,keep them murders in cuba,,,and dont think for one second whatever you think bad is happening to them in cuba,,,times that by 100,000 thousand if an American inmate gets a hold of them scumbags,,,and if the muslims dont like that,,,you shouldnt of started the war,,,cuz islam isnt gunna ever be the only religion beleif in this world,,,ever,,,and America wont ever be a islam run country,,,never,,,either will isreal,,,either will cuba,,,all of south america,,,canada,,,99.999% of europe countris,,,china,,,japan,,,aus tralia,,,south african countries,,,the north pole south pole,,,so guess you muslims are stuck in the middle east,,,except for isreal,,,and turkey and india,,,so try living in peace and for your info,,,the President of the United States of America wont ever be held responsable to any nation except to the American people,,,and dont you ever forget that one,,,when you threaten our President,,,President Obama,,,you threaten 350+ Americans,,,and you will never be that tough to want a peice of that,,,so try living in peace with the world,,,
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40218 Nov 20, 2013
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50 Years After MLK’s “Letter from a Birmingham Jail,” What Can We Learn?

By Gary Corseri

April 22, 2013 "Information Clearing House" - It was April, 1963, and Martin Luther King, age 34, had five more years to live. And we have now had fifty years to answer his letter.
Seven to eight years before, he had come to national prominence as leader of the bus boycott staged by the black citizens of Montgomery, Alabama. The boycott had begun when Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat to a white man… and that small act of courage and defiance had jump-started the modern Civil Rights Movement.

Raised in Atlanta, the son, grandson and great-grandson of ministers, King was pastor of the Dexter Avenue Baptist Church, and president of the Montgomery Improvement Association. Smart, hip, articulate, gutsy, idealistic and charismatic, at 27, he had led the boycott for over a year until the Supreme Court had ruled that Montgomery’s segregation laws violated the Constitution’s 14th Amendment, guaranteeing equal rights to all citizens.

Now, President of the Atlanta-headquartered Southern Christian Leadership Conference, he sat in a jail cell in Birmingham, writing his thoughts on the margins of a newspaper, responding to eight white, Alabama clergymen who had criticized his “outsider” activism.

“I am here because injustice is here,” King wrote,“…compelled to carry the gospel of freedom beyond my own home town.… Moreover, I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states.” And, he declared:“Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality.… Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly.”

Thus, on the first page of what would become a 14-page testament, King has averred two of his life themes: that we are all connected; and, injustice must be confronted. Next, he takes on his fellow clergymen who have rebuked him as an “outside agitator.”“Birmingham is probably the most segregated city in the United States,” he reminds them, then recriminates about their own failure—and other white leaders’ failure--to “grapple with underlying causes.”

As antidote, he describes his methodology:(1) collect the facts; (2) negotiate; (3) purify the self; (4) take direct action. Again, he reminds his would-be counselors:“There have been more unsolved bombings of Negro houses and churches in Birmingham than in any other city in the nation.”

MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40219 Nov 20, 2013
A “friendly Negro trusty” provides him with scraps of paper, and in the following pages King annotates, illustrates and continues his “grappling.”

What can we learn 50 years later? For one thing (and not superficially!): the value of a Liberal Arts/Humanities education (and, of course, in King’s case, a theological one as well). Long before “no child left behind” and standardized testing and testing (and testing scandals!), we observe how a gifted, dedicated student, allied with dedicated teachers, can master the musical scales of rhetoric while plumbing the depths of logical analysis.

Among the sources King cites for his thoughts and actions are Socrates (his courage to challenge conventions); Reinhold Niebuhr; St. Augustine (on just and unjust laws); Martin Buber (on “I and Thou” relationships); John Bunyan, Jesus of Nazareth; St. Paul; Martin Luther; and T.S. Eliot.

King is a man who has read widely and thought deeply and he has learned to make distinctions. Between “justice” and “law,” for example. What is the difference? he wonders.“A just law is a man-made code that squares with the moral law or the law of God. An unjust law is a code that is out of harmony with the moral law.”

And, deeper, and loftier:“Any law that uplifts human personality is just. Any law that degrades human personality is unjust.” And, he will not be deceived:“Sometimes a law is just on its face and unjust in its application.”

“Collecting the facts,” and clearly expounding his moral position, King now describes the difficult processes of “negotiation,”“self-purificati on” and “direct action.” He understands the hard road ahead:“One who breaks an unjust law must do so openly, lovingly, and with a willingness to accept the penalty.” He understands the isolation he must face, the scorn from professed, but lukewarm, allies who “paternalistically” believe they can “set the time-table for another man’s freedom.”

He underlines the need for taking direct action and for seizing the moment:“Human progress never rolls in on wheels of inevitability; it comes through the tireless efforts… of [those] willing to be co-workers with God, and without this hard work, time itself becomes an ally of the forces of social stagnation. We must use time creatively, in the knowledge that the time is always ripe to do right.”
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40221 Nov 20, 2013
grave digger wrote:
<quoted text>all them muslims in that place is an enemy,,,a terrorist,,,and they dont need to be housed on American soil prisons,,,cuz they dont deserve special nothing,,,like private cells so the other inmates wont get at them,,,forget that crap,,,keep them murders in cuba,,,and dont think for one second whatever you think bad is happening to them in cuba,,,times that by 100,000 thousand if an American inmate gets a hold of them scumbags,,,and if the muslims dont like that,,,you shouldnt of started the war,,,cuz islam isnt gunna ever be the only religion beleif in this world,,,ever,,,and America wont ever be a islam run country,,,never,,,either will isreal,,,either will cuba,,,all of south america,,,canada,,,99.999% of europe countris,,,china,,,japan,,,aus tralia,,,south african countries,,,the north pole south pole,,,so guess you muslims are stuck in the middle east,,,except for isreal,,,and turkey and india,,,so try living in peace and for your info,,,the President of the United States of America wont ever be held responsable to any nation except to the American people,,,and dont you ever forget that one,,,when you threaten our President,,,President Obama,,,you threaten 350+ Americans,,,and you will never be that tough to want a peice of that,,,so try living in peace with the world,,,
They are strange type of terrorist, no case is filed and no one is convicted of any crime.

It is yours words against theirs.

same was as they kept nelson Mandella in a Terrorist prison, naming him as "Biggest terrorist of the world"....only to make him president of the country.

Is anyone "proven guilty" without any trail and without any conviction?

Is that what your law says?
w wmanuk

Bournemouth, UK

#40222 Nov 20, 2013
MUQ wrote:
A “friendly Negro trusty” provides him with scraps of paper, and in the following pages King annotates, illustrates and continues his “grappling.”
What can we learn 50 years later? For one thing (and not superficially!): the value of a Liberal Arts/Humanities education (and, of course, in King’s case, a theological one as well). Long before “no child left behind” and standardized testing and testing (and testing scandals!), we observe how a gifted, dedicated student, allied with dedicated teachers, can master the musical scales of rhetoric while plumbing the depths of logical analysis.
Among the sources King cites for his thoughts and actions are Socrates (his courage to challenge conventions); Reinhold Niebuhr; St. Augustine (on just and unjust laws); Martin Buber (on “I and Thou” relationships); John Bunyan, Jesus of Nazareth; St. Paul; Martin Luther; and T.S. Eliot.
King is a man who has read widely and thought deeply and he has learned to make distinctions. Between “justice” and “law,” for example. What is the difference? he wonders.“A just law is a man-made code that squares with the moral law or the law of God. An unjust law is a code that is out of harmony with the moral law.”
And, deeper, and loftier:“Any law that uplifts human personality is just. Any law that degrades human personality is unjust.” And, he will not be deceived:“Sometimes a law is just on its face and unjust in its application.”
“Collecting the facts,” and clearly expounding his moral position, King now describes the difficult processes of “negotiation,”“self-purificati on” and “direct action.” He understands the hard road ahead:“One who breaks an unjust law must do so openly, lovingly, and with a willingness to accept the penalty.” He understands the isolation he must face, the scorn from professed, but lukewarm, allies who “paternalistically” believe they can “set the time-table for another man’s freedom.”
He underlines the need for taking direct action and for seizing the moment:“Human progress never rolls in on wheels of inevitability; it comes through the tireless efforts… of [those] willing to be co-workers with God, and without this hard work, time itself becomes an ally of the forces of social stagnation. We must use time creatively, in the knowledge that the time is always ripe to do right.”
An unjust law is a code that is out of harmony with the moral law.
Just as islam denys the rights of woman, just as the wife beating instructions and the way muslims are instructed to treat the non believer as written in the koran are unjust .islam itself becomes an ally of the forces of social stagnation violence and couruption of the human spirit. Look to the middle east and see the justice and harmony caused by the teachings of moohamed the murdering the hatred he would be very they are following the book of hatred to the letter.
w wmanuk

Bournemouth, UK

#40223 Nov 20, 2013
Look to the middle east and see the justice and harmony caused by the teachings of moohamed the murdering the hatred he would be very proud they are following the book of hatred to the letter.
rio

Bromley, UK

#40225 Nov 21, 2013
w wman uk wrote:
<quoted text>

they are the only people with a legal right to their ancestral lands.
Can you imagine if everyone started claiming "ancestral land" going back 2000 (or so) Years back?

Why only the Jews have that "right", and why the internal community endorsed the creation of Israel on this pretext. It's absolutely crazy!!

Most of US citizen have roots all over the world; can you imagine them claiming their "rights" to England, Poland, Germany, Ukraine, Africa, etc...

The Brits could claim Hannover, Saxony, Denmark, etc...
The French could ask for Franconia, part of Germany...
The Australians could claim Britain, so could the New Zealanders...

You must be bonkers to believe such rubbish!!!
w wmanuk

Bournemouth, UK

#40226 Nov 21, 2013
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you imagine if everyone started claiming "ancestral land" going back 2000 (or so) Years back?
Why only the Jews have that "right", and why the internal community endorsed the creation of Israel on this pretext. It's absolutely crazy!!
Most of US citizen have roots all over the world; can you imagine them claiming their "rights" to England, Poland, Germany, Ukraine, Africa, etc...
The Brits could claim Hannover, Saxony, Denmark, etc...
The French could ask for Franconia, part of Germany...
The Australians could claim Britain, so could the New Zealanders...
You must be bonkers to believe such rubbish!!!
Or you could take the veiw of our twisted sisters mug and ratodour that the Jew should be exterminated and forget that they ever lived in the middle east. The arab land owners sold their lands to the Jews without regard to their own people. Then claimed it were all the fault of the Jew. They are liers decievers and traitors to their own.
w wmanuk

Bournemouth, UK

#40227 Nov 21, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
They are strange type of terrorist, no case is filed and no one is convicted of any crime.
It is yours words against theirs.
same was as they kept nelson Mandella in a Terrorist prison, naming him as "Biggest terrorist of the world"....only to make him president of the country.
Is anyone "proven guilty" without any trail and without any conviction?
Is that what your law says?
His people still are genociding the white farmer and they are bigger parasites to the blacks than the whites ever were.
Ali

Plettenberg Bay, South Africa

#40230 Nov 22, 2013
MUQ, still at it??? Poor old lost soul; I see you found another batch of sillies to argue with! They will all come to see you as an agent for the World-Wide Islamic Dept of Lies and Propoganda!!! lol If you were truly intelligent instead of plain 'ole brainwashed and fearful of SHIRK, you'd get out of Islam! Its a con, man!

Rio, if you deny the claims of history on any particular society or nation, then you are truly an ignorant person. You are equal to MUQ and the Holocaust Deny-ers. Then Muhammed and Stalin never lived and Jesus was just a fable. What an idiot!!!
rio

London, UK

#40231 Nov 22, 2013
Ali wrote:
Rio, if you deny the claims of history on any particular society or nation, then you are truly an ignorant person. You are equal to MUQ and the Holocaust Deny-ers.
What do I deny?

It's the zionists who deny Arabs a place in their own land!

And I am not denying the Holocaust either; I just find injust that the Arabs gets the blame for it!

Are you a propagandist for Israel too? Idiot ...
grave digger

Sparta, MO

#40232 Nov 22, 2013
iran has to go,,,iran needs to go,,,iran is the center of all earths evil deeds,,,iran aint even muslim,,,their name iran is right,,,I-RAN away when peace and freedom came a knocking,,,their leader is the one who started the whole wipe out everyone like isreal and the west,,,what an idiot loser that hell bound bastard is,,,I-RAN from all peace,,,sounds like a hillbilly iranian dude,,,I-RAN,,,so shut it iranian hillbilly camel gay boys,,,your land belongs to india if the truth be known
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40234 Nov 23, 2013
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He Is Comfortable with Bush’s Inferno

By Ralph Nader

April 22, 2013 "Information Clearing House" - George W. Bush is riding high. A megamillionaire, from the taxpayer-subsidized Texas Rangers company, he makes $150,000 to $200,000 per speech, receives a large presidential pension and support facilities and is about to dedicate the $500 million George W. Bush Presidential Library and Museum on April 25.

President Obama will be at the dedication, continuing to legitimize Mr. Bush, as he did from the outset by announcing in 2009 there would be no investigations or prosecutions of the Bush officials for their crimes.

In an interview with the New York Times, Mr. Bush continued to say he has no regrets about his Presidency.“I’m comfortable with what I did,” he said,“I’m comfortable with who I am.” He added,“Much of my presidency was defined by things that you didn’t necessarily want to have happen.”

But he and Dick Cheney made them happen, although Mr. Bush attributed some military events to Providence. One of the “things” he is comfortable with was his criminal, unconstitutional invasion and occupation of Iraq, which took over one million Iraqi lives – children, women and men – created 5 million refugees and committed overall sociocide on that country which posed no threat to the U.S. The carnage continues to this day by a militarized al-Qaeda-in-Iraq that didn’t exist before his invasion.

Apparently, Mr. Bush is “comfortable” with the price paid by the U.S. soldiers and their broken families – over 5,000 fatalities and suicides, 200,000 injuries, illnesses and traumatic syndromes – and by U.S. taxpayers, who over time will pay an estimated 3 trillion dollars according to Nobel Laureate and economist, Joseph Stiglitz.

Former Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) has said repeatedly that Bush and Cheney “lied us into invading Iraq.” Such an understatement. Bush and Cheney not only lied about Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction, they also deceived, covered-up, corrupted or intimidated the mass media, bullied an abdicatory Congress, and delivered a false address to the United Nations with the now regretful Secretary of State Colin Powell.

Two secretary generals of the UN subsequently declared Bush’s war of aggression against Iraq to be a violation of international law.
Bush suffers no qualms about the brutal realities of his war and his recidivist violations of our Constitution, federal statutes and international treaties.“One of the real challenges of life is when you complete a chapter, you don’t atrophy, that you continue to find ways to contribute,” said Bush in an interview with The Dallas Morning News.

Army veteran Tomas Young is atrophying from his massive wounds in Iraq. Before he decides to end his devastated life, possibly this month, he summoned his moral energy to write Mr. Bush a poignant letter calling him to account for his war crimes. Bush, however, never responds. After all he’s “comfortable” and that bloody “chapter” is closed.
w wmanuk

East Ham, UK

#40235 Nov 23, 2013
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
What do I deny?
It's the zionists who deny Arabs a place in their own land!
And I am not denying the Holocaust either; I just find injust that the Arabs gets the blame for it!
Are you a propagandist for Israel too? Idiot ...
Who blames the arabs for the holocaust idiot?
Although its a fact that the nazzi SS recruted some muslim SS divisions fool.
It is also a fact that there are startling simularities between the nazzies and extreem islam fool.
Ie the murhumna seek world domination so do the nazzies idiot.
Punishment and death to the non beliver common in both idiot.
Universal hatred of Jews common in both.
rio

London, UK

#40236 Nov 23, 2013
w wmanuk wrote:
<quoted text>

It is also a fact that there are startling simularities between the nazzies and extreem islam fool.
I find more similarity between the Nazis' treatment of Jews and Israel's treatm,ent of Arabs myself.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40237 Nov 23, 2013
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
I find more similarity between the Nazis' treatment of Jews and Israel's treatm,ent of Arabs myself.
Jews at least have "first hand" knowledge of what that persecution was, so it is "easy" in a sense for them to apply to others.

Arabs had no first hand info of Nazi persecution.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40238 Nov 23, 2013
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He Is Comfortable with Bush’s Inferno

By Ralph Nader (Contd.)

The American people have yet to come to terms with the reality that presidents are above the law. Presidents can commit repeated crimes in an outlaw presidency so long as they can invoke, however falsely and vaguely, national security.

Were presidents to engage in personal crimes or obstruction of justice, like Nixon with the burglary of the Democratic Party’s Watergate offices, the law and Congress can hold them accountable. But Bush and Cheney had bigger fish to fry with their destruction of justice. As the ancient Roman historian Tacitus wrote:“The worst crimes were dared by a few, willed by more, and tolerated by all.”

Fortunately, for our fragile democracy, there were dissenters. After 9/11, leading civil liberty groups objected to provisions in the Patriot Act that allowed searches of your home and businesses without telling you for 72 hours. And, the muzzling of librarians and custodians of your financial medical records from even telling you that the feds are retrieving them. And warrantless snooping on millions of Americans.

In the months leading to the invasion of Iraq in March 2003, more than three hundred retired generals, admirals, high ranking officers, national security officials and diplomats spoke out against any invasion.

Retired General and former Director of the National Security Agency Bill Odom called the invasion the most strategic military blunder in our history. Bush’s father was privately opposed to the invasion, urging his top retired advisors, James Baker and Brent Scowcroft to speak and write against the pending invasion.

The venerable, conservative American Bar Association weighed in with three White Papers declaring Bush’s many signing statements – that he was not bound by legislation – domestic surveillance and treatment of enemy combatants were unconstitutional actions. Bush never acknowledged these reports. And this week, a bipartisan report by the Constitution Project concluded that Bush/Cheney approved torture practices at Guantanamo.

All the above plus mass anti-war rallies in Washington, D.C. and elsewhere did not slow the march to war. The protests were not strong enough to penetrate the political and electoral systems. Until that happens, criminal unconstitutional actions regularly conducted at top levels of our government will not, as a practical matter, trigger either the application of the rule of law or the impeachment authority of the U.S. Congress. To the contrary, each succeeding President feels free to push the illegal, unconstitutional envelope further.

So the lawless legacy of George W. Bush continues under Obama – sometimes worse, sometimes not. Indefinite detention, arbitrary use of military rather than civil tribunals, secret evidence and secret laws, war crimes, secret courts, immunity from judicial review, continual snooping on citizens, extraordinary renditions to foreign countries and, for the first time, President Barack Obama claims to have the right to assassinate an American citizen, far from the battlefield, in his sole secret judgment as prosecutor, judge, jury and executioner. All shame the Obama Administration.

The above list comes from the great law professor, Jonathan Turley of George Washington University, who published a chilling article in the Washington Post on January 15, 2012.



On April 25, George W. Bush will bask in the fawning media sunlight of his presidential library and museum. The devastated people of Iraq and the soldiers of America, sent to kill and die in Bush’s illegal, boomeranging war, may have some exhibits, pictures and artifacts to suggest for the museum’s collection.
grave digger

Sparta, MO

#40239 Nov 23, 2013
YEEEEHAAAA! iran has just signed the contract with the UN of no more nukes,,,no more nukes,,,no more nukes,,,YEEEEHAAAAA! a win for isreal,,,they can sleep well,,,iran is gunna have no more nukes,,,no more nukes,,iran without nukes is a good thing for the world,,,and GOD has saved the middle east from the biggest threat of all called iran,,,I-RAN straight into peace,,,YEEEEHAAAAA!,,,GOD has put leaders in iran who want peace and used their brains to know the world is tired of dealing with the iranian idiots,,,
grave digger

Sparta, MO

#40240 Nov 23, 2013
NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! I-RAN WILL HAVE NO MORE NUKES,,,celebrate in the streets,,,I-RAN WILL HAVE NO MORE NUKES,,,guess GOD answerd the worlds prayers,,,NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! I-RAN WILL HAVE NO MORE NUKES,,,
grave digger

Sparta, MO

#40241 Nov 23, 2013
the middle east will have peace cuz i-ran has NO MORE NUKES,,,sleep and walk in peace isreal,,,i-ran will have no more nukes,,,

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