Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

There are 38083 comments on the Worcester Telegram & Gazette story from Jun 4, 2007, titled Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says. In it, Worcester Telegram & Gazette reports that:

TEHRAN, Iran- Iran's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad yesterday said the world would witness the destruction of Israel soon, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported.

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grave digger

Kirbyville, MO

#40196 Nov 18, 2013
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
Before, Jerusalem was a Muslim town, and before that a Christian town after the Jews deserted it.
muslims never owned anything,,,ever,,,they dont even own the rights to the koran,,,the koran is a fictional book wrote from a jewish poet,,,and lost it on his travels and a desert wondering camel farmer found it and started the whole muslim beleif,,,he was yelling at his camel and was trying to say waslum,,,which means water but said muslim cuz he had sand in his mouth,,,and this camel farmers sons were camel farmers by day but desert bandits by night,,,and they heard the word muslim and it started by that,,,3 bandit camel farmers sons,,,one went north and recruted more bandits,,,the 2nd son went south and recruted more bandits,,,and the 3rd son went west and recruted more bandits,,,then they all met in the middle and headed east,,,but the oldest son kept falling down to the ground cuz he was pigeon toed and kept tripping over his own clodhopper feet,,,the 2nd son gave him a rug to fall down on so he would stop getting sand in his eyes,,,nose,,,mouth,,,ears,,, and the whole bunch of bandits started doing the same thing,,,falling down on a rug towerds the east,,,then the 3rd son said,,,f--k them egyptains,,,they build pointy buildings,,,let us muslims build rounded top buildings,,,and you will never guess what the 3 sons names were,,,thats right,,,moe,,,larry and curly,,,all because a jewish poet lost his book of poams in the stupid desert,,,the end,,,the video will be released next week on youtube,,,
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40197 Nov 18, 2013
nutjobs here wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't dismiss the claim Muslims have a right to Mecca but Jews have a right to Jerusalem.
Jews have been a majority in Jerusalem for 150 years. Jerusalem of today outside the old city has ALL been built in the past 150 years and Jews have almost continuously been the majority since then.
I don't claim to know what happened that far back in history. I have my opinions. Interesting though I have never heard that before. I only refute what I know to be lie or distortion. This I have no idea so can't really comment.
You should have the guts to speak white lie in front of every one and we see that you have those guts.

To say that Jews were in "majority" in Jerusalem for past 150 years is the "whitest lie" that any one can speak.

The matter is so new that most people do not need any convincing , but I do not know how brainwashed people get, when they constantly hear one sided propaganda day in and day out.

Jews were "Never" I repeat "Never" in majority since that fateful day in 68 or 70 CE, when they were removed from that city by Roman General Titus.

That was done by Pagan Roman General, but when Roman Empire accepted Christianity in year 330 CE, they did not allow Jews to come back to Jerusalem.

This situation continued till Muslim armies took control of Jerusalem from Byzantine Empire in 650 CE.

From that day till 1967, there was only a "marginal presence" of Jews in Jerusalem and elsewhere in Palestine.

And they have cheek to say that "jews were in majority in Jerusalem for past 150 years".

They might "invent" a new History making industry, to write whatever comes to their minds as "historical facts".

rtloder

Since: Nov 12

Villawood, Australia

#40198 Nov 19, 2013
Anxiety belief ambition conclusion, opposed to composure.
Allah was the beginning of epistemological development.
Children come from the conclusion within space , open and closed, only to coexist as function because there is intermittent conclusion, and they become the paradox in the Image of Allah.
When Allah was Singular, He was Him, to accept the conclusion of everything also to be Himself, was the ultimate betrayal, but He did it anyway.
Allah is all that everything is, the Accumulator and the Person of Accumulation.
He satisfied His Desire by acquisition to double cross, what He was to be what He became.
And we are the same conclusion is acquisition.
Space could not satisfy desire, Fate could not satisfy desire, the Random could not do it either.
So how come we can and not them three
Its because we conclude and they don't.

Since: Nov 13

Izmir, Turkey

#40199 Nov 19, 2013
It is not a wise thing to make such announcements. Declaring a state completely as evil and enemy and several time clarifying that it will come to end.

When Iran declares that does it mean it will kill all 6 million people in Israel? or only the military personel of Israel? or just the politicians?

Threats are nothing in international relations. During the 6-day-war when the history is searched noone can notice the name "Iran" among the other countries against Israel.

Addition: Israel never made an official declaration like "We will destroy all Iran".

http://irglobal.blogspot.com/
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40200 Nov 19, 2013
Iran does not say about massacres of Jews at all. It speaks about end of Zionist state of Isreal.

You can have an end of Isreal, without having a massacre at all.

The world was "used" to no state of Isreal for past 2000 years, what great change would come if the present Zionist state of Isreal is gone from the map?

Jews would be "re-distributed" into the land and live like they were living for past 2000 years.

Why there should be massacre of 6 Million Jews living in Isreal?

It is "Christian friends" of Jews, who have help all records of Massacres of Jews for past 2000 years.

Now they are posing as if "It were Muslims who were doing massacres of Jews, while the Christians were acting like White doves of peace".

People do not know their own histories, there has never been any major Muslim-Jews war for past 1400 years (I mean before that Zionist state of Isreal was created in 1948)
nutjobs here

Israel

#40201 Nov 19, 2013
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
Before, Jerusalem was a Muslim town, and before that a Christian town after the Jews deserted it.
More lies from you. The Jews were there first and last while staying or returning continuously over time.

When did the Jews ever desert Jerusalem?

It was the Christians and Muslims who continuously fought over it massacring the Jews there on a regular basis.

Again you do realize that until 150 years ago Jerusalem was tiny and consisted of the Old City. The Old City was majority Jewish.

So you don't care about majority rights but just Palestinian rights but not Jewish ones.

You spill more each post.
nutjobs here

Israel

#40202 Nov 19, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
You should have the guts to speak white lie in front of every one and we see that you have those guts.
To say that Jews were in "majority" in Jerusalem for past 150 years is the "whitest lie" that any one can speak.
The matter is so new that most people do not need any convincing , but I do not know how brainwashed people get, when they constantly hear one sided propaganda day in and day out.
Jews were "Never" I repeat "Never" in majority since that fateful day in 68 or 70 CE, when they were removed from that city by Roman General Titus.
That was done by Pagan Roman General, but when Roman Empire accepted Christianity in year 330 CE, they did not allow Jews to come back to Jerusalem.
This situation continued till Muslim armies took control of Jerusalem from Byzantine Empire in 650 CE.
From that day till 1967, there was only a "marginal presence" of Jews in Jerusalem and elsewhere in Palestine.
And they have cheek to say that "jews were in majority in Jerusalem for past 150 years".
They might "invent" a new History making industry, to write whatever comes to their minds as "historical facts".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_hist...

As usual you have no idea what you are talking about probably brainwashed by Saudi hate.

The link above gives plenty of evidence that Jews have been a majority in Jerusalem for around 150 years.

SO YOU HAVE CLEARLY BEEN SHOWN TO BE A LIAR AGAIN WELL DONE.

You clearly know nothing about the conflict, history at all and the best you post here is spam articles.

It was the Jews who built much of what is today Jerusalem starting around 1840. The Old City was Jerusalem until then.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40203 Nov 19, 2013
nutjobs here wrote:
<quoted text>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_hist...
As usual you have no idea what you are talking about probably brainwashed by Saudi hate.
The link above gives plenty of evidence that Jews have been a majority in Jerusalem for around 150 years.
SO YOU HAVE CLEARLY BEEN SHOWN TO BE A LIAR AGAIN WELL DONE.
You clearly know nothing about the conflict, history at all and the best you post here is spam articles.
It was the Jews who built much of what is today Jerusalem starting around 1840. The Old City was Jerusalem until then.
There is no cure for persons like you, who want to "manufacture" history.

The idea that Jews were in "majority" in Jerusalem, the third holiest Muslim city, when it was under the control of Ottoman Empire, is nothing but sheer madness.

Jews would have to take permission from Turkish Caliph to build any housing complex there.

But you drink every thing your biased media tells you, posting links to the sites which spread all those lies.

You live by links and you shall die by those links. Links mean nothing if they are not telling the truth.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40204 Nov 19, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

America Cannot Assert Moral Authority While Guantánamo Remains Open

For those not charged with any offence, their long detention is a most serious stain on the human rights record of the US

Guardian Editorial

April 22, 2013 "Information Clearing House" -"The Guardian" - In 2009, defending the promise he made to close Guantánamo Bay, President Barack Obama insisted: "The existence of Guantánamo likely created more terrorists around the world than it ever detained."

This weekend, the case for the closure of Guantánamo Bay, promised by Obama on his second day in office, has never been more compelling. A hunger strike by the camp's inmates, half of whom had been cleared for release, has underlined the growing desperation of those 166 still detained.

Of that number, some 86 had been approved for transfer (while the rest had been earmarked for trial) but have become stuck in a political and legal limbo that has seen such transfers almost completely halted in the last two-and-a-half years. A recent report by a bipartisan panel of experts has condemned both the conditions there and the use of abusive interrogation techniques.

One of those trapped in this Kafkaesque nightmare is Briton Shaker Aamer. As the Observer reports today, despite a skeleton deal that could pave the way for his release to Saudi Arabia, Aamer rightly insists he should be allowed to return to the UK to rejoin his family.

After 11 years, it is hard to see the rationale for keeping Guantánamo open. It is a fundamental principle of open and democratic societies that those accused or suspected of serious crimes should be submitted to due legal process within a reasonable time period. Indefinite detention of those cleared of any crime, or if those authorities have insufficient evidence to prosecute, is a gross violation of human rights.

The US government's decision last month that Sulaiman Abu Ghaith, Osama bin Laden's son-in-law and an al-Qaida spokesman, should be tried in a federal court rather than before a military commission at Guantánamo has underlined the principle that domestic courts are the best place to try terrorism suspects. Indeed, as Human Rights Watch has pointed out, military commissions in Guantánamo have been proved unreliable, unable to deliver real justice and subject to changes in rules and bogged down in procedure.

For those who have not been charged with any offence, their long detention has come to be one of the most serious stains on the human rights record of the US, amounting to open-ended and indefinite incarceration without charge or due process.

As David Ignatius argued compellingly in the Washington Post yesterday, there are strong arguments, too, for releasing and transferring Taliban detainees back to Afghanistan. The CIA's assessment is that even if those individuals returned to the battlefield, it would have no net impact on the military situation, while it might provide impetus in talks with the Taliban.

MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40205 Nov 19, 2013
The reason that Guantánamo remains operational, and with so many stuck within it, has nothing to do with practical issues concerning release or transfer or how some should be tried. Instead, those trapped in Guantánamo are the victims of a political conflict, specifically between Congress and the White House over plans to house and try alleged terrorists in the US.

Congress cut off funds to move accused men to the US for detention and insisted on onerous conditions for the transfer of those remaining out of the US, including elaborate arrangements for monitoring.

Obama too must be held responsible for this continuing disgrace. It was the president, after all, who signed into law the National Defence Authorisation Act, jeopardising his ability to close Guantánamo after threatening to veto it.

As Amnesty International and others have pointed out, despite the ban on US funds for transfers contained in the NDAA, another clause, Section 1028, does give Obama the broad right to resolve some cases – such as Shaker Aamer's – whose return has been requested by the UK government. The resolution of the Shaker Aamer case, as Amnesty argued earlier this year, would be a symbolic step that would demonstrate that Obama has not abandoned his commitment to close Guantánamo.

The well-documented deployment of sustained and abusive interrogation techniques, sexual humiliation and extreme violence in Guantánamo is something that demeans America. That an American president has allowed these depraved practices to continue on his watch is more shocking still. Until America closes Guantánamo Bay, it cannot, as it likes to, assert its moral authority over the rest of the world.

© 2013 Guardian News and Media Limited
nutjobs here

Israel

#40206 Nov 19, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no cure for persons like you, who want to "manufacture" history.
The idea that Jews were in "majority" in Jerusalem, the third holiest Muslim city, when it was under the control of Ottoman Empire, is nothing but sheer madness.
Jews would have to take permission from Turkish Caliph to build any housing complex there.
But you drink every thing your biased media tells you, posting links to the sites which spread all those lies.
You live by links and you shall die by those links. Links mean nothing if they are not telling the truth.
So you obviously have ignored the link I posted which gives dozens of census reports which agree with me. You are living a lie. Maybe in Saudi Arabia they block these websites from you.
Yes it was a problem to own land and build for Jews in certain periods under Ottoman Rule. We are talking about a city of 15-20,000 people which was mostly inside the Old City walls.

What media and when do I ever post a link to media?? You lie as usual even when the link I posted proves you wrong.

SO THAN EXPLAIN WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THE SOURCES I POSTED IN THE LINK?
nutjobs here

Israel

#40207 Nov 19, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
But you drink every thing your biased media tells you, posting links to the sites which spread all those lies.
You live by links and you shall die by those links. Links mean nothing if they are not telling the truth.
LOOK IN THE MIRROR.
As soon as you wrote the above post you added more spam from some alternative media.

Idiot

I posted a link with population statistics in Jerusalem over the past 1000 years from a number of sources which can't be considered bias.
nutjobs here

Israel

#40208 Nov 19, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Iran does not say about massacres of Jews at all. It speaks about end of Zionist state of Isreal.
You can have an end of Isreal, without having a massacre at all.
The world was "used" to no state of Isreal for past 2000 years, what great change would come if the present Zionist state of Isreal is gone from the map?
Jews would be "re-distributed" into the land and live like they were living for past 2000 years.
Why there should be massacre of 6 Million Jews living in Isreal?
It is "Christian friends" of Jews, who have help all records of Massacres of Jews for past 2000 years.
Now they are posing as if "It were Muslims who were doing massacres of Jews, while the Christians were acting like White doves of peace".
People do not know their own histories, there has never been any major Muslim-Jews war for past 1400 years (I mean before that Zionist state of Isreal was created in 1948)
and the 7 million Jews will just disappear like the millions Jews who lived in Arab countries 80 years ago. They lived in the region before Islam and the Arab invasion.

There were no countries 200 years ago nearly every country in the world is new. Israel has given more to the world in advancements that every Muslim and Arab nation put together.

The tech you use to write here was created by Israelis. So was the Intel Chip some cell phones, and a large part of the medical breakthroughs.

As usual a Muslim denying that his people continuously massacred EVERYONE else, with breaks in the middle mind you. There were pogroms throughout the Muslim world years before Israel.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Gu3-w5uvB_o/TTxg-13...
above is a map with massacres against Jews in the Arab-Muslim world.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/m...
in depth information about history of Jews treatment by Arabs.

Notice how you wrote "people don't know their own history", it is amazing how many times you and others like Grey write things which can only be directed at themselves based on the information they post at the same time.

There was no Jewish nation since Roman Times so how could a non-existent country fight? Idiot. But Jews were oppressed under most Arab-Muslim leaders. Didn't you say that under ottoman control there is no way they would allow Jews to be majority in Jerusalem? Even though you were wrong as in the late 1800's there is a clear Jewish majority and by 1948 Jews were 2/3 of the city population, you made the point that Muslim would never allow Jewish control.

As soon as the idea of a Jewish country came into play the Arab-Muslim world rose to wipe it out. They tried numerous times but failed.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40209 Nov 19, 2013
nutjobs here wrote:
<quoted text>
and the 7 million Jews will just disappear like the millions Jews who lived in Arab countries 80 years ago. They lived in the region before Islam and the Arab invasion.
There were no countries 200 years ago nearly every country in the world is new. Israel has given more to the world in advancements that every Muslim and Arab nation put together.
The tech you use to write here was created by Israelis. So was the Intel Chip some cell phones, and a large part of the medical breakthroughs.
As usual a Muslim denying that his people continuously massacred EVERYONE else, with breaks in the middle mind you. There were pogroms throughout the Muslim world years before Israel.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Gu3-w5uvB_o/TTxg-13...
above is a map with massacres against Jews in the Arab-Muslim world.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/m...
in depth information about history of Jews treatment by Arabs.
Notice how you wrote "people don't know their own history", it is amazing how many times you and others like Grey write things which can only be directed at themselves based on the information they post at the same time.
There was no Jewish nation since Roman Times so how could a non-existent country fight? Idiot. But Jews were oppressed under most Arab-Muslim leaders. Didn't you say that under ottoman control there is no way they would allow Jews to be majority in Jerusalem? Even though you were wrong as in the late 1800's there is a clear Jewish majority and by 1948 Jews were 2/3 of the city population, you made the point that Muslim would never allow Jewish control.
As soon as the idea of a Jewish country came into play the Arab-Muslim world rose to wipe it out. They tried numerous times but failed.
6 or 7 or any number of millions of Jews, scattered around in the country is perhaps the "best" and "most time tested" way to deal with Jews.

But you bring them together, they start causing mischief to the people and to the land they live in.

Why were they persecuted in EVERY country they lived in large numbers for past 2000 years. You can find fault with one or two countries, but not with ALL countries.

And when they did come back to Palestine, they started the way they left it in years 68 or 70 CE.

The land has not seen a day of peace since, there are persecutions, lies, land grabbing and mischief every where.

Perhaps Jews are not made to rule any country, they would be best as subjects.

It is not a hate message for Jews, it is the way their long history has shown.
grave digger

Kirbyville, MO

#40210 Nov 19, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no cure for persons like you, who want to "manufacture" history.
The idea that Jews were in "majority" in Jerusalem, the third holiest Muslim city, when it was under the control of Ottoman Empire, is nothing but sheer madness.
Jews would have to take permission from Turkish Caliph to build any housing complex there.
But you drink every thing your biased media tells you, posting links to the sites which spread all those lies.
You live by links and you shall die by those links. Links mean nothing if they are not telling the truth.
good lord,,,you muslims arnt getting the land called isreal back,,,ever,,,it will never be a muslim country,,,ever,,,cuz you muslims will just destroy it like you do every other country you live and breed in,,,
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40212 Nov 20, 2013
grave digger wrote:
<quoted text>good lord,,,you muslims arnt getting the land called isreal back,,,ever,,,it will never be a muslim country,,,ever,,,cuz you muslims will just destroy it like you do every other country you live and breed in,,,
Have you not seen James Bind Movie "Never say Never again"!!

It is only fools who have these words Impossible and Never in their dictionaries.

It was not long ago when people were saying "Jews would Never have their country".

Now you are saying that Muslims will Never get back their lands.

You need a lot of hindsight to talk like that.

That Isreal is root cause of most problems in ME is becoming clearer and clearer every day.
rio

London, UK

#40213 Nov 20, 2013
nutjobs here wrote:
<quoted text>
Jews have been a majority in Jerusalem for around 150 years.
.
Statistics about land ownership in Palestine in 1945, under the British Mandate show that between 60 and 70% of land was in Arab hands:
Haifa 42%
Nazareth 52%
Jaffa 52%
Hebron 97%
Jerusalem 84%.

Worth noting that only 2% of Jerusalem was under Jewish ownership and 14% under Christian ownership then.
The Jewish population in Jerusalem in 1945, was only 40%.

That refutes completely your argument that Jews were in majority in Jerusalem for the last 150 years. Another lie!!

rtloder

Since: Nov 12

Sydney, Australia

#40214 Nov 20, 2013
To.
wo (e) wman uk .
I've just had a wonderful thought.
A good characteristic for it to be synthesised into something new and different must be fused with its opposite ,
Hegel said that and Marx believed him.
So why shouldn't I.
And you too.
That's not my wonderful thought, this is.
As , like in glass, it's good to let the light in but it breaks easily.
I know I just bike my fu ckern Vegemite.
Still , every cloud has a good message.
I am a good characteristic looking to fuse with a bad one , that's why I'm looking for a dumb bitch.
Get it dumb arse.
grave digger

Ozark, MO

#40215 Nov 20, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you not seen James Bind Movie "Never say Never again"!!
It is only fools who have these words Impossible and Never in their dictionaries.
It was not long ago when people were saying "Jews would Never have their country".
Now you are saying that Muslims will Never get back their lands.
You need a lot of hindsight to talk like that.
That Isreal is root cause of most problems in ME is becoming clearer and clearer every day.
no,,its only the fool who calls james bond james bind,,,and isreal is not a muslim country now,,,and if your stupid ass iran nukes isreal,,,it wont ever be anyones land for thousands of yrs to come,,,are you a mad man or just need some meds and anger managment group sessions,,,why dont you try this,,,take a few deep breaths,,,clear your mind of all thoughts,,,keep saying to yourself to clear your mind,,,do this with your eyes closed,,,and when you see a red image,,,and you will,,,say to yourself,,I shall live in peace with the world,,,say this over and over until the red image fades out of your sight,,,then open your eyes and live in peace with the world and everybody,,,and when a nagetive thought comes into your mind,,,pinch your self and think of peaceful thoughts,,,peace in the world,,,everybody happy,,,try this my muslim freind who really is a hateful little prick cuz of your brainwashing you were taught from some hater bitter old prick,,,when you want peace,,,peace shall come,,,your red image minds eye will open a whole nother world for you my freind,,,can solve all problems you have,,,and how cool will it be if a christian and a muslim can sit down at a soccer or football game together enjoying a game,,,how cool will that be?,,,
w wman uk

Oxford, UK

#40216 Nov 20, 2013
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
Statistics about land ownership in Palestine in 1945, under the British Mandate show that between 60 and 70% of land was in Arab hands:
Haifa 42%
Nazareth 52%
Jaffa 52%
Hebron 97%
Jerusalem 84%.
Worth noting that only 2% of Jerusalem was under Jewish ownership and 14% under Christian ownership then.
The Jewish population in Jerusalem in 1945, was only 40%.
That refutes completely your argument that Jews were in majority in Jerusalem for the last 150 years. Another lie!!
The clue is in the name Jerusalem so you agree that the arabs sold their from under their own people betrayed their own . According to the arab creed "I against my brother, my brothers and I against my cousins, then my cousins and I against strangers".
History did not begin with the British Mandate, nor with 1948-9 war, not when the Ottomans conquered the region, nor when the Romans conquered the region, nor when Cyrus the Persian conquered the region, it goes thousands of years back, long before any Arab ever lived there, yet the Jews did live there from day one through today. The land of Judah is the root for the term Jew.

Palestine is a word that is made up and is not even Arabic, and derives from the Roman era where they renamed the land, based on Philistia. The Philistines were not Arabs either, they were from Greek roots. Arabs have never had any right to the land. They came to fill the void created when the Jews were pushed out by the Romans as late as 70 A.D. The name does not matter really, what matters is that those lands are not the ancestral lands of any Arab, including Lebanon. You and the rest of your people need a serious history lesson, the true history, history that pre-dates the Muslim seizure of these lands at the hand of Muhammadens and other INVADERS.

The Israelis, and the Jews you call peoples of other nationalities are such because they were kicked out by force from THEIR ancestral lands. They had to move to areas across the globe to evade persecution right up through Nazism. So how can they be invaders, or occupiers when they are the only people with a legal right to their ancestral lands. Arabs come from Arabia, hence the reason we use names. Changing a name of a land does not change its history.

Just stating something as a fact does not make it so, it must be backed up by documentation, that is why we write and keep records, so people do not just make things up to support their erroneous claims like yours. By the way, Arabs have full rights in Israel and VOTE there. Can any Jew vote in an Arab country where they may live? NO! Get your facts straight!

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