Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

There are 38083 comments on the Worcester Telegram & Gazette story from Jun 4, 2007, titled Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says. In it, Worcester Telegram & Gazette reports that:

TEHRAN, Iran- Iran's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad yesterday said the world would witness the destruction of Israel soon, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported.

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grave digger

Ozark, MO

#40153 Nov 16, 2013
rtloder wrote:
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I did listen grave digger , but it went in one ear and out the other .
I got a feeling you really don't like this thread , it used to be better when that stupid w wman uk was here .
And we had a real poet before you come.
Tell you what , grave digger , have a stab at working out why you don't like this thread.
Then tell us in your next communication.
And please don't lie and say that you do.
I know you don't , if you did what you report would not go in one ear and out the other.
Agreed.?.
have you read the title of this thread?,,,its sick and twisted coming out of the mouth of a beedy eyed little idiot,,,and if you support the destruction of any peoples of this earth,,,your an idiot,,,and the muslims do all harm to themselves cuz if the muslims wanted peace they would live peace like all other peoples and belifs in this world trys to,,,if you want to teach islam or promote islam,,,then shut down all the evil deeds the muslims do,,,then maybe the world will listen,,,now what is a muslim of today?,,,lets see,,,bombs,,,murder,,,terror, ,,pain,,,suffering,,,destructi on,,,whaen you act like a locust your treated like a locust,,,and if the grave digger remembers right,,,the locust were a curse from GOD in the past,,,you figure it out and try living in peace with everyone,,,cuz you already done lost the war you started,,,and leave isreal alone,,,its their country not the muslims,,,

rtloder

Since: Nov 12

Toukley, Australia

#40154 Nov 16, 2013
grave digger wrote:
<quoted text>have you read the title of this thread?,,,its sick and twisted coming out of the mouth of a beedy eyed little idiot,,,and if you support the destruction of any peoples of this earth,,,your an idiot,,,and the muslims do all harm to themselves cuz if the muslims wanted peace they would live peace like all other peoples and belifs in this world trys to,,,if you want to teach islam or promote islam,,,then shut down all the evil deeds the muslims do,,,then maybe the world will listen,,,now what is a muslim of today?,,,lets see,,,bombs,,,murder,,,terror, ,,pain,,,suffering,,,destructi on,,,whaen you act like a locust your treated like a locust,,,and if the grave digger remembers right,,,the locust were a curse from GOD in the past,,,you figure it out and try living in peace with everyone,,,cuz you already done lost the war you started,,,and leave isreal alone,,,its their country not the muslims,,,

Ahmadinejad didn't even say that , I don't think he even speaks English.
I don't say he's a dumb arse because he doesn't, mind you he has been called that by himself.
That's right someone said he said that he was a dumb arse .
Why would he call himself a fund arse.
There is only one explanation ,
What happened was there was a mistranslation.
Actually he didn't say it but I believe it.
There is no country in all of history that lived in complete hostility with all its neighbours.
Not one.
And when you consider Israel is one one hundredth of the size of its neighbours it goes from being an absurdity to an infringement of sanity .
And that's only the beginning of the story.
Then you got the religious questions.
The economic questions.
And now the internet exposing Anne Frank as a fraud , along with countless other bullshit stories the jew State was built on.
Yanks won't come to fight for jews.
Nobody will . The Jews will threaten to blow up the world.
The world is not going to accept that .



nutjobs here

Israel

#40155 Nov 16, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>

But as a Muslim you still feel you have the right to any land once controlled by Muslims? Even if its nothing to do with you?

I am not from the region.

You are obviously not aware of Jewish history as you have ignored the fact that there was much more than a 'nominal' Jewish presence in the region for 2000 years.

When does the West ignore an Israeli atrocity? on the contrary they ignore when a Jewish family are massacred in their beds including baby and children. The west ignores the DAILY attacks on Jews by Arabs throughout the country and territories.

Early Christian antisemitism stems from the fact that without disputing Judaism, Christianity will always be the second religion.
Jews were not to blame that is the reality. But everyone blames the Jews anyways. The reason Jews have been persecuted from many countries is firstly Christian antisemitism (which is still seen in the West today), Islamic Dhimmi laws, and the fact that the Jews often stayed apart from the population and were the perfect scapegoat. Blaming the Jews united the people and stops them from blaming the real culprits for whatever is happening whether it be drought, disease, starvation, weather etc.

So you are telling me that Hundreds of millions of people in the region call for Global Islamic Caliphate (as you do I believe) and the destruction of the free world is Israels fault?
All the bombings in western countries. What about the Barbary Muslim Pirates? Iran-Iraq war Israels fault? Iran spread of terrorism Israels fault? I suppose the father org of all the extremists the Muslim Brotherhood created in the 1920's was because of Israel.

The fact is that Islam is a threat to the world not just Israel. There are the 100millions of Jihadis, then their supporters and most of the rest of Islam is silent of their evil acts. Why has the Christian population in the region gone from 20%- under 5% in 100 years?

If anything it is that fact that giving the Arab/Muslim nations their own autonomy has led to the situation today. The people of the region are so interested in blame, killing, oppressing women and homosexuals, oppressing other religions, restricting freedom of speech and religion.

No-one planted Israel it was agreed upon by the countries of the world at the time in the same way India/Pakistan/Iraq/Syris/Leba non/Jordan and dozens of countries were created.
Israel is not surrounded by Muslims but on the edge of the region.

Israel is not threatening to wipe a country off the face of the earth.
Israel unlike most Arab countries is not calling to commit genocide on others.
It was the Arab league who refused to accept Israels existence and suffered the consequences.

I have just named dozens of things the west has done which harms Israel. You have still not given one example of what the West has done which benefits Israel.

You live in an Apartheid which oppresses women, other religions, freedom in general and spends Billions to spread Islamism around the world. How can you judge Israel? Why has the West ignored all these things about Saudi Arabia?

Of course Muslims have a right to live. How can you even ask this? But the extremism and oppression of ALL unlike them has to go and those living the West must adapt to the culture or leave.

It was the Arabs who were buddies with Hitler especially the Palestinians Mufti of Jerusalem, Al-Husseini , Arafat's Uncle and Mentor. Mein Kampf is found throughout the Muslim world often a best seller. You are obviously ignorant of what is happening in the region and its history. Maybe Saudi only allows you on certain websites.

The Dark ages?? If you are speaking of the European Dark Ages there is plenty of evidence that the Islamic conquest and spread of disease (from them) led to this time. Remember reading about the coastal cities and the shipping routes seem to have a connection to this subject.

CAN I GET A REPLY OR ARE YOU UNABLE TO ANSWER? TOO BUSY WITH SPAM? GREY IN DISGUISE?
grave digger

Ozark, MO

#40157 Nov 16, 2013
rtloder wrote:
<quoted text>
Ahmadinejad didn't even say that , I don't think he even speaks English.
I don't say he's a dumb arse because he doesn't, mind you he has been called that by himself.
That's right someone said he said that he was a dumb arse .
Why would he call himself a fund arse.
There is only one explanation ,
What happened was there was a mistranslation.
Actually he didn't say it but I believe it.
There is no country in all of history that lived in complete hostility with all its neighbours.
Not one.
And when you consider Israel is one one hundredth of the size of its neighbours it goes from being an absurdity to an infringement of sanity .
And that's only the beginning of the story.
Then you got the religious questions.
The economic questions.
And now the internet exposing Anne Frank as a fraud , along with countless other bullshit stories the jew State was built on.
Yanks won't come to fight for jews.
Nobody will . The Jews will threaten to blow up the world.
The world is not going to accept that .
the little beedy eyed iranian did say that many many times,,,isreal is not the islam muslims land,,,and every country run by other then muslim has no problems with eachother,,,but every muslim run country always has and always will,,,and that aint nobodys fault but the muslims,,,you cant walk around this earth and just take what you want like muhamad did,,,the times are diffrent,,,so try living in peace with the world and the world will respect your islam faith,,,but it will take awhile for the world to trust the muslim,,,cuz the muslim done lost that trust with the world all by themselves through fear and murder,,,the grave digger saw a video of some muslim animals in a country by russia somewhere,,,and in this video were muslim animals tearing up that countries soilders tombstones in a cemetery and also knocking down a big statue of JESUS,,,and everyone of them muslim animals were just laughing it up,,,this video just shows your muslim peace talk is full of shit,,,muslims act like dis-respected animals and will be treated like dis-respected animals,,,simple,,,thats why it will take a while for the world to respect islam or muslims for a long long time,,,have your jihad terrorist muslims surrender,,,then the forgiving will start or keep acting like animals and keep getting treated like animals,,,but whats funny is,,,in America,,,canada,,,almost all european countries,,,all the south american countries,,,australia,,,have never heard of them countrymen abusing muslims that live in them countries,,,but always hear of the destruction and terror them muslims bring to them countries,,,its your muslim islam faith thats your enemy,,,its like a cancer cell eating away at itself,,,try living in peace,,,
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40159 Nov 16, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

The Boston Bombs Roused a Monster

An overreaction to the attacks could result in massive, self-important bodies wielding excessive powers and hounding the wrong people

By Patrick Cockburn (Contd.)

from rivals. Power delegated to them because of a single crime is seldom reclaimed.

The World Trade Center's destruction on 9/11 is the obvious example of an event used to justify the expansion of security agencies. But for a compendium of these events it is well worth reading the newly published The Annals of Unsolved Crime by Edward Jay Epstein, one of the greatest American investigative journalists, a compelling and informed account of how crime and the needs of power and politics intertwine.

Epstein recalls that the kidnapping of the child of the aviator Charles Lindbergh in 1932 enabled J Edgar Hoover "to expand the FBI, which he had headed since its creation, into a national police agency". Police arrested a carpenter called Bruno Hauptman, who had part of the ransom paid by Lindbergh in his garage. He was found guilty of kidnapping and murder. It is likely he was a member of a gang of swindlers cashing in on a crime they had not committed themselves.

No fingerprints, fibres, footprints or witnesses ever showed that Hauptman was in the Lindbergh house. Executed in 1936, he rejected an offer of $50,000 from Hearst newspapers, and another by the governor of New Jersey, to commute his death sentence in return for a confession.

Criminal investigations have become far more sophisticated. But Epstein's account of the FBI's pursuit of the person responsible for the anthrax attacks in 2001 suggests that this investigation was even more perverted by the need to show results. The anthrax, of a particularly virulent strain, was sent by letter and killed five people. Having decided early on that the sender was a "lone wolf" American scientist, the FBI pursued several scientists who seemed to fit this profile.

One, Dr Steven Hatfill, was so closely investigated (the press alerted to the FBI's suspicions), that he lost his job, contracts, and many associates. He sued the government, a federal judge expressing outrage that the FBI had pursued him for five years without "a scintilla of evidence". He was awarded $5.8m in compensation.

Undaunted, the FBI went after another scientist, Dr Bruce Ivins, offering $2.5m to his twins to testify against their father. Under pressure, bankrupted by legal fees, drinking heavily and having suffered a mental breakdown, Dr Ivins killed himself in 2008. A week later, the FBI declared Dr Ivins the sole perpetrator of the anthrax attacks, though its gargantuan investigation had turned up nothing conclusive against him and its presumption of his guilt depended on dubious scientific evidence.

The case remains a telling example of how security agencies adopt faulty preconceptions, which become too embedded within the institution to be abandoned without loss of credibility and prestige. The worst damage stemming from the Boston bombing will be if the security behemoths created or enlarged after 9/11, whose effectiveness is in doubt, were rejuvenated and expanded.
grave digger

Ozark, MO

#40160 Nov 16, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...
The Boston Bombs Roused a Monster
An overreaction to the attacks could result in massive, self-important bodies wielding excessive powers and hounding the wrong people
By Patrick Cockburn (Contd.)
from rivals. Power delegated to them because of a single crime is seldom reclaimed.
The World Trade Center's destruction on 9/11 is the obvious example of an event used to justify the expansion of security agencies. But for a compendium of these events it is well worth reading the newly published The Annals of Unsolved Crime by Edward Jay Epstein, one of the greatest American investigative journalists, a compelling and informed account of how crime and the needs of power and politics intertwine.
Epstein recalls that the kidnapping of the child of the aviator Charles Lindbergh in 1932 enabled J Edgar Hoover "to expand the FBI, which he had headed since its creation, into a national police agency". Police arrested a carpenter called Bruno Hauptman, who had part of the ransom paid by Lindbergh in his garage. He was found guilty of kidnapping and murder. It is likely he was a member of a gang of swindlers cashing in on a crime they had not committed themselves.
No fingerprints, fibres, footprints or witnesses ever showed that Hauptman was in the Lindbergh house. Executed in 1936, he rejected an offer of $50,000 from Hearst newspapers, and another by the governor of New Jersey, to commute his death sentence in return for a confession.
Criminal investigations have become far more sophisticated. But Epstein's account of the FBI's pursuit of the person responsible for the anthrax attacks in 2001 suggests that this investigation was even more perverted by the need to show results. The anthrax, of a particularly virulent strain, was sent by letter and killed five people. Having decided early on that the sender was a "lone wolf" American scientist, the FBI pursued several scientists who seemed to fit this profile.
One, Dr Steven Hatfill, was so closely investigated (the press alerted to the FBI's suspicions), that he lost his job, contracts, and many associates. He sued the government, a federal judge expressing outrage that the FBI had pursued him for five years without "a scintilla of evidence". He was awarded $5.8m in compensation.
Undaunted, the FBI went after another scientist, Dr Bruce Ivins, offering $2.5m to his twins to testify against their father. Under pressure, bankrupted by legal fees, drinking heavily and having suffered a mental breakdown, Dr Ivins killed himself in 2008. A week later, the FBI declared Dr Ivins the sole perpetrator of the anthrax attacks, though its gargantuan investigation had turned up nothing conclusive against him and its presumption of his guilt depended on dubious scientific evidence.
The case remains a telling example of how security agencies adopt faulty preconceptions, which become too embedded within the institution to be abandoned without loss of credibility and prestige. The worst damage stemming from the Boston bombing will be if the security behemoths created or enlarged after 9/11, whose effectiveness is in doubt, were rejuvenated and expanded.
listen muq,,,if osama bin laden and his band of murdering idiots didnt do the 911 attack,,,how come they kept saying they did it?,,,cuz they knew for a fact they were being hunted and there was nowhere to hide on GODs green earth,,,and the boston bomber brothers were raised by a muslim whore and did what they thought was right,,,but in reality ruined their young lives,,,and by the way,,,if a suicide bomber muslim gets 72 virgins when they die,,,is a muslim woman suicide bomber a lezbian or child molester?,,,cuz muhamads wife and freinds done warped your muslim brains with writting the koran,,,try living in peace with the rest of the world and see what happens,,,
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40161 Nov 16, 2013
grave digger wrote:
<quoted text>listen muq,,,if osama bin laden and his band of murdering idiots didnt do the 911 attack,,,how come they kept saying they did it?,,,cuz they knew for a fact they were being hunted and there was nowhere to hide on GODs green earth,,,and the boston bomber brothers were raised by a muslim whore and did what they thought was right,,,but in reality ruined their young lives,,,and by the way,,,if a suicide bomber muslim gets 72 virgins when they die,,,is a muslim woman suicide bomber a lezbian or child molester?,,,cuz muhamads wife and freinds done warped your muslim brains with writting the koran,,,try living in peace with the rest of the world and see what happens,,,
Listen buddy, if there was no Isreal in the ME, there would not have been any PLO, no Alqaeda, no 9/11.

Why not solve the root cause of the problem?
w wmanuk

Reading, UK

#40163 Nov 17, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Listen buddy, if there was no Isreal in the ME, there would not have been any PLO, no Alqaeda, no 9/11.
Why not solve the root cause of the problem?

If there was no evil the moohamadan cult would not have been concocked and the book of unreason and hatered would fabricated to poison the minds of the simple.
Its so lame to blame the Jews for the murder and hatred that radical islam causes. Just why a pakistani like you should feel such comitment to the ME and ignore the evil that islam causes in your home land is puzzling . Please explane why or perhape your twisted sister ratodour could elaborate ?
grave digger

Kirbyville, MO

#40164 Nov 17, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Listen buddy, if there was no Isreal in the ME, there would not have been any PLO, no Alqaeda, no 9/11.
Why not solve the root cause of the problem?
the grave digger can prove your full of camel crap,,,cuz if the west and isreal all turned muslim,,,you muslims would then go after the asia countries who follow buda and blame your own created problems on them peoples,,,so save your camel crap for some cave hideout meeting of a room full of devils,,,you know,,,your meeting places,,,try living in peace with the world and see what happens,,,the past is the past but a begining is the start,,,

rtloder

Since: Nov 12

Toukley, Australia

#40165 Nov 17, 2013
w wmanuk wrote:
<quoted text>
If there was no evil the moohamadan cult would not have been concocked and the book of unreason and hatered would fabricated to poison the minds of the simple.
Its so lame to blame the Jews for the murder and hatred that radical islam causes. Just why a pakistani like you should feel such comitment to the ME and ignore the evil that islam causes in your home land is puzzling . Please explane why or perhape your twisted sister ratodour could elaborate ?

Perhaps nothing , just ask and its yours..
So glad we are talking again , that cave dweller was giving me the shits.
Now what's this you say, concocted, poison the simple, you stupid bitch the log you been licking is full of fungus and most of it is hallucinogenic your tripping off your face.
What would I be today with no fall back position provided by the Holy Koran.
I'd be fu ckern Lionel, that bastard has never got one thing right in his whole miserable criminal life.
Bitch is not a bad name , your a dumb arse, for thinking that , amongst a lot of other things.
nutjobs here

Israel

#40166 Nov 17, 2013
Rational Tulsans wrote:
White Jews are phony, and did not come into existence until 740AD. The original Jews were Black, like the great Falasha Jews of Ethiopia. White boys are lying scums that are always trying to steal cultures.
The original Jews if anything were brown skinned and according to the bible came from Mesopotamia (Iraq).

This whole Jews were Blacks is BS and racist also.

So you are a historical expert on ancient Jewry??

The darker skin is also prevalent from certain Western Jewish communities. While I have light skin by brother by birth looks more Middle eastern.
nutjobs here

Israel

#40167 Nov 17, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Listen buddy, if there was no Isreal in the ME, there would not have been any PLO, no Alqaeda, no 9/11.
Why not solve the root cause of the problem?
Is there any logic to your posts?

Muslim Brotherhood created 1920's probably because the Muslims in the region were just starting to get their autonomy. before this the Ottomans must have kept them in check.

So the root cause of the trouble in the middle east was giving the Arabs control of their own lands.

So I suppose the Barbary Muslim pirates were because of Israel also?

Whats AL-Qaeda got to do with Israel it was because of the Cold War that many of these things and orgs occurred or were created.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40168 Nov 17, 2013
grave digger wrote:
<quoted text>the grave digger can prove your full of camel crap,,,cuz if the west and isreal all turned muslim,,,you muslims would then go after the asia countries who follow buda and blame your own created problems on them peoples,,,so save your camel crap for some cave hideout meeting of a room full of devils,,,you know,,,your meeting places,,,try living in peace with the world and see what happens,,,the past is the past but a begining is the start,,,
The problem it seems is in you own mind. It is your inbuilt hate and hatred against Islam, that does not allow you to think logically.

You are expert only in one thing and that is name calling. That is your only quality I am able to see so far.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40169 Nov 17, 2013
nutjobs here wrote:
<quoted text>
Is there any logic to your posts?
Muslim Brotherhood created 1920's probably because the Muslims in the region were just starting to get their autonomy. before this the Ottomans must have kept them in check.
So the root cause of the trouble in the middle east was giving the Arabs control of their own lands.
So I suppose the Barbary Muslim pirates were because of Israel also?
Whats AL-Qaeda got to do with Israel it was because of the Cold War that many of these things and orgs occurred or were created.
What Al Qaeda had to with Cold War Mr. Sherlock Holmes?

You are hallucinating, not seeing the "root cause" of problem. If Muslim Brotherhood was founded in 1920, it was to check the "World Zionist congress" created in 1899.

The Root cause of all problems in ME is Jews and Zionists, what we are seeing are the evil fruits of that evil tree.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40170 Nov 17, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

Pit Of Hopelessness: Guantanamo Grows Tense, Inmates Suicidal

By RT

April 22, 2013 "Information Clearing House" -"RT" - At least two Guantanamo Bay detainees have attempted suicide since the confrontation between guards and prisoners in February that brought about the ongoing hunger strike, AP reports.


A team of journalists, including from AP, have been allowed into the facilities. They testify the atmosphere has grown tense and heavy in the prison where 166 men are indefinitely held with little to no hope of release. Still they were not allowed to gather more information on the two suicide attempts.

At least seven people have managed to kill themselves since Guantanamo was first set up in 2002.

The fact that Gitmo has turned into a pit of hopelessness is confirmed both by the detainee's lawyers and some US officials. While the number of officially-acknowledged hunger strikers is growing, most prisoners are isolated from each other and the world.

"How can the military, even the military, hope to maintain discipline over a prison camp where there is absolutely no hope for those men confined here?" Lieutenant Commander Kevin Bogucki, a US Navy Military Lawyer who was visiting his clients at the base this week, told AP.

"Until such time as our government starts to do the right thing in connection with Guantanamo Bay, the frustration is only going to continue to build and I can't imagine that the outcome will be good," he added.

Out of 86 Guantanamo prisoners cleared for the release, the overwhelming majority - 56 of them - are Yemeni nationals, RT's Gayane Chichakyan points out. However, three years ago the US suspended all transfers of detainees to Yemen. It may well mean dying in Guantanamo, Omar Farah, petitioner for the Center of Constitutional Rights, believes.

"Our clients are coming to grips with the cold fact: they may well die in Guantanamo not because the state is unable to transfer them, but because it's unwilling to do so. The transfer restrictions are difficult, for example, they would require the secretary of defense to personally certify that a receiving state are taking steps to ensure that a prisoner can never threaten the United States in the future, whatever threat it might mean in that context. Obviously no state can guarantee that a future event will or will not occur, but that was the point - to discourage transfers from Guantanamo," Farah said.

US officials say there is no reason to lose hope, as they are working to make transfers happen. However, this pledge lacks action.

"The indefinite detention that they're asking for or are justifying is under the laws of war," Kristina Kuskey, petitioner for Physicians for Human Rights said. "In US minds that war ends at the end of hostilities. Against who? Al-Qaeda and associative forces. What does that mean? That's indefinite! That is the epitome of indefinite."

US military has acknowledged 84 prisoners have currently joined the hunger strike, 16 of them are being force-fed, while five have been hospitalized. The strike started early in February over guards' alleged interference with the inmates' private belongings, raising anger over 'mishandling' of Korans. No efforts on the part of the US military authorities to stop the strike have so far been successful.

Multiple human rights and medical associations have condemned force-feeding, the UN Human Rights commission even labeling the practice of force feeding a form of torture.

See also
Over Half the Prisoners at Guantanamo Are Now on a Hunger Strike: The latest report from United States officials puts the number of inmates on hunger strike at 84 — there are 166 total inmates at Guantanamo — with at least 17 of them being force fed.
nutjobs here

Israel

#40171 Nov 17, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
What Al Qaeda had to with Cold War Mr. Sherlock Holmes?
You are hallucinating, not seeing the "root cause" of problem. If Muslim Brotherhood was founded in 1920, it was to check the "World Zionist congress" created in 1899.
The Root cause of all problems in ME is Jews and Zionists, what we are seeing are the evil fruits of that evil tree.
Nothing
"Whats AL-Qaeda got to do with Israel? It was because of the Cold War that many of these things and orgs occurred or were created. "
just put a question mark between Israel and it.

You keep making the claims it all Jews fault but you have failed to give any evidence. The furthest you can go it a general statement.

So what about the Barbary Pirates?
What about the Muslim Slave trade from Africa and Europe?

You are looking so hard to blame the Jews (still haven't proven anything) that you ignore what happens in Arab countries when they are given freedom. Egypt, Libya, Lebanon, Tunisia, Iraq, they want violence and terror.
You live in an Apartheid and you continuously judge Israel based on lies.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40172 Nov 17, 2013
nutjobs here wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing
"Whats AL-Qaeda got to do with Israel? It was because of the Cold War that many of these things and orgs occurred or were created. "
just put a question mark between Israel and it.
You keep making the claims it all Jews fault but you have failed to give any evidence. The furthest you can go it a general statement.
So what about the Barbary Pirates?
What about the Muslim Slave trade from Africa and Europe?
You are looking so hard to blame the Jews (still haven't proven anything) that you ignore what happens in Arab countries when they are given freedom. Egypt, Libya, Lebanon, Tunisia, Iraq, they want violence and terror.
You live in an Apartheid and you continuously judge Israel based on lies.
So you want to discuss the whole history?

Saying Al Qaeda and PLO had nothing to with Isreal is like saying Christianity has nothing to do with Jesus Christ!!

Why trying to be a fool ? And that too in front of everybody.

Your real hate and hatred for Islam and Muslim is now on display. How mean minded are you, every one can see.
grave digger

Kirbyville, MO

#40173 Nov 17, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem it seems is in you own mind. It is your inbuilt hate and hatred against Islam, that does not allow you to think logically.
You are expert only in one thing and that is name calling. That is your only quality I am able to see so far.
its always name calling when someone doesnt agree with islam,,,but islam murders and slams everyone not islam,,,and for your info,,,never said anything about the hate of islam,,,only post why you dont try living in peace with the world and see what happens,,,cuz the world wont ever be all islam,,,the world wont ever be any one faith,,,you say islam is the only way but yet there is no islam run country that lives in peace,,,the muslims main message they claim islam is,,,,peace with who?,,,this past 50+yrs or so islam has shown the world what its really about,,,and that my freind is the reason islam will never be the only faith or beleif in this world,,,your generation of islam has put a black mark on islam in the eyes of the world,,,try living in peace with the world and see what happens,,,
nutjobs here

Israel

#40174 Nov 17, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
So you want to discuss the whole history?
Saying Al Qaeda and PLO had nothing to with Isreal is like saying Christianity has nothing to do with Jesus Christ!!
Why trying to be a fool ? And that too in front of everybody.
Your real hate and hatred for Islam and Muslim is now on display. How mean minded are you, every one can see.
So what does Al-Qaeda have to do with Israel?
Al-Qaeda has more of a connection to the Cold War as that is when any why it originated. Russia in Afghanistan, US support.

I am here to discuss the whole history the question is if you are ready to admit that most Arab and Muslim countries do not have equality. They oppress the minorities, women, gays, and other religions, there is also no freedom of speech. While Israel amongst its citizens gives more freedom than most democracies.

Obviously the PLO has something to do with Israel. Its own charter calls for Israels destruction from before 1967.

What has the fact that Muslims were a large part of the slave trade while also carrying out Jihad against infidels on the high seas long before Israel or modern Zionism got to do with hating Muslims or Islam. They were even at war with America.

I have admitted I have a problem with Islam but I also have a problem with religion in general. The problem with Islam unlike Judaism is that it calls for world domination and conversion, death or if you are lucky Dhimmitude. It calls to force others to follow its will. That is fascism not democracy.
I have no problem with individual Islam and actually have a very conservative view on personal actions so support some of it. But to impose these things on others is unthinkable and I stand against that.

If you don't call for Muslims to rule the world and oppress or kill the infidel than I would have no problem with you being a Muslim and good luck to you. But when you continuously incite against Jews when your religion and the country you live in are 100 times worse this doesn't give you much credibility. On top of that you blame the Jews for the Muslim acts.

So you are in denial of the evil in your religion and chose to blame it on the Jews like many Muslims in the region.

YOU HAVE NEVER GIVEN ANY EVIDENCE OR CONTEXT TO DISPUTE WHAT IS SAID ABOUT ISLAM HERE.

Does Islam not call to control or convert the infidel??
Are there not dozens of evil passages in the main Islamic text WHICH ARE STILL PRACTICED TODAY (unlike Judaism for example where only a insignificant minority follow the bigoted parts of the religion.)
nutjobs here

Israel

#40175 Nov 17, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Saying ... PLO had nothing to with Isreal is like saying Christianity has nothing to do with Jesus Christ!!
Never said that you are making things up.

The PLO was created by the Arab league and the Soviets to discredit Israel. Looks like it worked.

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