Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

There are 38083 comments on the Worcester Telegram & Gazette story from Jun 4, 2007, titled Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says. In it, Worcester Telegram & Gazette reports that:

TEHRAN, Iran- Iran's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad yesterday said the world would witness the destruction of Israel soon, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported.

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grave digger

Ozark, MO

#40129 Nov 13, 2013
rtloder wrote:
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KKK and BPP are one is the toaster and the other one the toast.
Which would you rather be the hammer or the nail?.
That's what the debate is about in Islamic religion todayand is it better or necessary for everything to be hammer and nail scenario still after so much has happened.
You see no distinction between the two because romantic images are more appealing than real life.
Problem's with cranking up yesterday to be today are profound and 10 times out of 10 times impossible.
We could drive around the States and see everything we want to see , but it would be nothing like what is really there.
Agreed the US should be multi cultural.
Saudi Arabia doesn't have to, just because the US has to.
Everybody is different for different reasons.
In 2006 a prominent BPP organizer
Mumia Abu-Jamal made this public statement.
" We want freedom: A Life in the Black Panther Party and Live from Death Row ".
What do you think is meant by that.?.
its called,,,heis an idiot and a murderer and should be on death row,,,who caused alot of families to suffer cuz of his own actions,,,plus 99% of the black race in America dont like or support the black panther party,,,so thats what the grave digger knows bout that,,,and nobody said saudi arabia had to live like they do in America,,,said your preception of America and its lifetyles are way off,,,there is more good people in America then there ever will be bad,,,and thats why we have a prison system that keeps the jamal types locked away from the rest of us,,,he is nothing more then an idiot,,,what kind of real man wants to live life on death row and be proud of that,,,somebody else is raising his children,,,humping his old lady right now while the big bad ass jamal is locked away forever,,,ha haa haaa
w wmanuk

Nottingham, UK

#40131 Nov 13, 2013
Brit Expat wrote:
Why does my pet dalek continue to scream, EXTERMINATE, EXTERMINATE?????
Thats simple hes converted to islam .
nutjobs here

Israel

#40132 Nov 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
Jews were removed from land of Palestine more than 2000 years ago and only “nominal presence” of them was in the region.
That is now what you can call “continuous presence”.
Muslims took the land from Christians and not from Jews in 650 CE.
In fact Muslim ‘s total possession of land of Palestine has been much more than those of Jews.
Jews had total control of Palestine for only 100 years at the maximum and “were forced” to share it with other people for all the time.
We not blaming Israel for all our problems, but it is major source of violence and terrorism in this area.
And it is very strange that almost all Western nations, turn their eyes other way, when atrocities and wrong action of Zionists and Jews are brought before them.
It is “customary” to ask for a Muslim to pray Allah for any thing and every thing. If we beseech Allah to help us against Jews and Christians and others who are persecuting us, this is a very normal to a religious person.
That does not prove that Islam is against Jews or Christians as such. We invite every one to come into fold of Islam
So are you Indian? or Arab? Are you even indigenous to the region?
Jews have continuously returned often in their 10,000's. War and disease kept Jews from W.Palestine. Even in the 1800's thousands of Jews left the land to move to Australia due to disease and pogroms.

Jews have lived continuously on the land for thousands of years mostly in Jerusalem, Tzfat, Tiberias and Hebron.

In the 1600's Jews were 10% of the 100,000 or so inhabitants.

Each time the Christians and Muslims fought the Jews were massacred.

How is Israel the main source of violent and terror in the region? a closer look would lead to Iran, Saudi or Qatar as countries go.
The West condemns Israel on a daily basis. The majority of the hate coming from the Palestinians, and lies coming from NGO's are funded by the West.

You invite everyone into Islam but those who say no are killed or oppressed. I can't tell if you are seriously deluded or intentionally pretending. Are you really in denial about the Muslim attrocities on an hourly basis around the world. Raping, Massacres, female mutilation, burning churches, and so on.

What does Islam actually add to the world? What do Muslims add to the world. Most are uneducated and most support a Global Islamic Caliphate. While many wouldn't fight the battle they would certainly chear them on, and celebrate their victories.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40133 Nov 13, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

America's War on Islam 2.0

By Stephen Lendman

(Contd)
Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev are called Islamic terrorists.

Round-the-clock coverage pronounced guilt by accusation. What’s most important to know is suppressed. Managed news misinformation substitutes.

Both brothers were set up as patsies. One’s dead. The other’s seriously wounded. He remains hospitalized. He’s at Boston’s Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center. He’s under heavy guard.

He’ll be interrogated when able to respond. He won’t be read his Miranda rights. On April 20, the ACLU headlined a “Statement on Miranda Rights of Boston Bombings Suspect,” saying:

“The American Civil Liberties Union reacted to the apprehension of the suspect in the Boston Marathon bombing and statements from federal officials that he would be questioned without being read his Miranda rights.”

“Every criminal defendant is entitled to be read Miranda rights. The public safety exception should be read narrowly. It applies only when there is a continued threat to public safety and is not an open-ended exception to the Miranda rule.”

“Additionally, every criminal defendant has a right to be brought before a judge and to have access to counsel. We must not waver from our tried-and-true justice system, even in the most difficult of times. Denial of rights is un-American and will only make it harder to obtain fair convictions.”

The Center for Constitutional Rights headlined “CCR Condemns Miranda Exception in Boston Marathon Suspect Case,” saying:
“The Miranda warnings were put in place because police officers were beating and torturing ‘confessions’ out of people who hadn’t even been formally accused of a crime.”

“We cannot afford to repeat our mistakes. If officials require suspects to incriminate themselves, they are making fair trials and due process merely option and not a requirement. To venture down that road again will make law enforcement accountable to no one.”

“Like Obama’s expanded killing program and his perpetuation of indefinite detention without trial at Guantanamo, this is yet another erosion of the Constitution to lay directly at the President’s feet.”

“Obama’s Justice Department unilaterally expanded the ‘public safety exception’ to Miranda in 2010 beyond anything the Supreme Court ever authorized.”

“Each time the administration use this exception, it stretches wider and longer. However horrific the crime, continuing to erode constitutional rights invites continued abuse by law enforcement, and walks us down a dangerous path that becomes nearly impossible to reverse.”
Media straightaway convicted both brothers. They did so in the court of public opinion. Misreporting continues. FAIR’s Peter Hart calls it a “rush to misjudgment,” saying:

“We’ve seen reporting and commentary that talked about the Muslim or jihadist character of the bombs themselves: pressure cookers, ball bearings or nails used.”

“These are things that are not unique to al-Qaeda or al-Qaeda-inspired terror attacks.”

MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40134 Nov 13, 2013
“We saw references to the Times Square bombing, trying to put this in the context of Islamic terror or previous instances of what the media like to refer to as Islamic terror.”

“We even saw references to the fact that two bombs were there. It must have been a follow-up attack trying to hit the rescue workers when they show up – again, a Middle Eastern trait, we’re told.”

“This is actually what the United States government has done in places like Iraq and in drone strikes in Pakistan.”

“So we have seen this rush to characterize this bombing, without necessarily saying precisely that we know who the perpetrators are, but to put it in this context.”
“And I think that creates a climate of fear and suspicion, particularly directed toward certain communities.”

“We read headlines, you know, block letters across the front page of the USA Today, the day afterwards,“Terror Has Returned.”

“This idea that the United States has not seen a terrorist attack since 9/11. This is a unique event right now.”
On April 19, Media Matters headlined “Boston And The Right-Wing Media’s Collapse,” saying:

Glenn Beck’s web site (The Blaze) got it wrong saying a Saudi national student was “absolutely involved.” He called him a “dirt bag, possibly the ringleader.”

Fox News host Sean Hannity claimed he previously was “involved with a terrorist or terror activity.”

Media Matters said “too many players opted to just make stuff up. Prompting witch hunts, they cast innocents as would-be killers and then couldn’t be bothered with apologies.”
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40135 Nov 13, 2013
NJH wrote:
So are you Indian? or Arab? Are you even indigenous to the region?

Jews have continuously returned often in their 10,000's. War and disease kept Jews from W. Palestine. Even in the 1800's thousands of Jews left the land to move to Australia due to disease and pogroms.

Jews have lived continuously on the land for thousands of years mostly in Jerusalem, Tzfat, Tiberias and Hebron.

In the 1600's Jews were 10% of the 100,000 or so inhabitants.

Each time the Christians and Muslims fought the Jews were massacred.

How is Israel the main source of violent and terror in the region? a closer look would lead to Iran, Saudi or Qatar as countries go.

The West condemns Israel on a daily basis. The majority of the hate coming from the Palestinians, and lies coming from NGO's are funded by the West.

You invite everyone into Islam but those who say no are killed or oppressed. I can't tell if you are seriously deluded or intentionally pretending. Are you really in denial about the Muslim attrocities on an hourly basis around the world. Raping, Massacres, female mutilation, burning churches, and so on.

What does Islam actually add to the world? What do Muslims add to the world. Most are uneducated and most support a Global Islamic Caliphate. While many wouldn't fight the battle they would certainly chear them on, and celebrate their victories.
Ans.

I am an Indian working in Saudi Arabia, if that answers your question. If I am not from this region, so are you.

We are aware of Jews history, so there is no need to describe to me, how they were persecuted by Christians.

I want to ask you a simple question, "Were earlier Christians all made or inhuman to perpetrate all those atrocities on Jews"? Were Jews "innocent as snow"?

What is in Jews that makes them enemies of every nation they lived into?

The current problem in ME and relations between Muslims and West are only because of Jewish Zionist nation of Isreal.

In my view it was a very "poor site selection" by Western nations to "Plant" a Jewish Zionist state right in center of Muslim nations.

I "know" that west criticizes Isreal on "Daily Basis" , but that is only for show. They only talk and take no action while in the case of Muslim nations, they put economic embargo, and sanctions and even attack them.

Do you do the same thing to Isreal which "rejects" your Daily criticism with impunity?

So if Muslims did not contribute "any thing" to the world, they have no right to live? Will you apply the "same rule" on African nations and other "least developed nations"?

Are you in any way influenced by Hitler's Philosophy?

What present developed nations of the world contributed during those "dark ages"?

rtloder

Since: Nov 12

Sydney, Australia

#40136 Nov 14, 2013
w wmanuk wrote:
<quoted text>Thats simple hes converted to islam .
you've changed your name I see ,
You used to have a gap between wman and uk.
Does this mean you've finally closed your legs.?.
Actually I just worked out something I want you to know about.
Allah was the first accumulator who gave everything to everyone, with the provision not to usurp Him.
To be encumbered by happiness , the sorrow created by the ending of the perfection of station (fate) would have been put to the ultimate test , but Allah did it anyway.
See , get it , which you don't any more, apparently , perfection is the only thing that ever ended, but its not really ended , cuz fate is always trying to bring it back and end everything , that's probably why you closed up the shop.
Hope you can still make ends meet.

rtloder

Since: Nov 12

Sydney, Australia

#40137 Nov 14, 2013
grave digger wrote:
<quoted text>its called,,,heis an idiot and a murderer and should be on death row,,,who caused alot of families to suffer cuz of his own actions,,,plus 99% of the black race in America dont like or support the black panther party,,,so thats what the grave digger knows bout that,,,and nobody said saudi arabia had to live like they do in America,,,said your preception of America and its lifetyles are way off,,,there is more good people in America then there ever will be bad,,,and thats why we have a prison system that keeps the jamal types locked away from the rest of us,,,he is nothing more then an idiot,,,what kind of real man wants to live life on death row and be proud of that,,,somebody else is raising his children,,,humping his old lady right now while the big bad ass jamal is locked away forever,,,ha haa haaa

Bit he's not proud of being a criminal , he's proud of having the honour to challenge and confront tyranny.
Stokely Charmichael said in 1967.

Quote.
There are 30 million of us in the US. For the most part we live in sharply defined sections of the rural black- belt areas and the shanty towns of the South, and more and more in the slums of the Northern and Western industrial cities. With us there is hundreds and thousands of Puerto Ricans, Mexican Americans and American Indians.
American Cities are in essence populated by people of the Third World, while the white middle class flees.
The heart of commercial trade is in these cities - but though we live here we do not control our resources.
We do not control the land, the houses, or the stores. They are owned by whites who live outside the community.
Unquote.
I think some things have changed but statically dual society is little changed after half a century.
Only Gov. spending money it borrows with no intention of ever paying back keeps the US community functioning.
But that money the Gov. is spending is supplied by people much worse off ,working in sweat shop conditions offshore .
Allah says yes He will help , but it is dependant on Israel being shut down.
The Levites were the property of God , the Rabbi murdered them to inherit their position.
That's the problem.
nutjobs here

Israel

#40138 Nov 14, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
But as a Muslim you still feel you have the right to any land once controlled by Muslims? Even if its nothing to do with you?

I am not from the region.

You are obviously not aware of Jewish history as you have ignored the fact that there was much more than a 'nominal' Jewish presence in the region for 2000 years.

When does the West ignore an Israeli atrocity? on the contrary they ignore when a Jewish family are massacred in their beds including baby and children. The west ignores the DAILY attacks on Jews by Arabs throughout the country and territories.

Early Christian antisemitism stems from the fact that without disputing Judaism, Christianity will always be the second religion.
Jews were not to blame that is the reality. But everyone blames the Jews anyways. The reason Jews have been persecuted from many countries is firstly Christian antisemitism (which is still seen in the West today), Islamic Dhimmi laws, and the fact that the Jews often stayed apart from the population and were the perfect scapegoat. Blaming the Jews united the people and stops them from blaming the real culprits for whatever is happening whether it be drought, disease, starvation, weather etc.

So you are telling me that Hundreds of millions of people in the region call for Global Islamic Caliphate (as you do I believe) and the destruction of the free world is Israels fault?
All the bombings in western countries. What about the Barbary Muslim Pirates? Iran-Iraq war Israels fault? Iran spread of terrorism Israels fault? I suppose the father org of all the extremists the Muslim Brotherhood created in the 1920's was because of Israel.

The fact is that Islam is a threat to the world not just Israel. There are the 100millions of Jihadis, then their supporters and most of the rest of Islam is silent of their evil acts. Why has the Christian population in the region gone from 20%- under 5% in 100 years?

If anything it is that fact that giving the Arab/Muslim nations their own autonomy has led to the situation today. The people of the region are so interested in blame, killing, oppressing women and homosexuals, oppressing other religions, restricting freedom of speech and religion.

No-one planted Israel it was agreed upon by the countries of the world at the time in the same way India/Pakistan/Iraq/Syris/Leba non/Jordan and dozens of countries were created.
Israel is not surrounded by Muslims but on the edge of the region.

Israel is not threatening to wipe a country off the face of the earth.
Israel unlike most Arab countries is not calling to commit genocide on others.
It was the Arab league who refused to accept Israels existance and suffered the consequences.

I have just named dozens of things the west has done which harms Israel. You have still not given one example of what the West has done which benefits Israel.

You live in an Apartheid which oppresses women, other religions, freedom in general and spends Billions to spread Islamism around the world. How can you judge Israel? WHy has the West ignored all these things about Saudi Arabia?

Of course MUslims have a right to live. How can you even ask this? But the extremism and oppression of ALL unlike them has to go and those living the West must adapt to the culture or leave.

It was the Arabs who were buddies with Hitler especially the Palestinians Mufti of Jerusalem, Al-Husseini , Arafat's Uncle and Mentor. Mein Kampf is found throughout the Muslim world often a best seller. You are obviously ignorant of what is happening in the region and its history. Maybe Saudi only allows you on certain websites.

The Dark ages?? If you are speaking of the European Dark Ages there is plenty of evidence that the Islamic conquest and spread of disease (from them) led to this time. Remember reading about the coastal cities and the shipping routes seem to have a connection to this subject.
grave digger

Ozark, MO

#40140 Nov 14, 2013
rtloder wrote:
<quoted text>
Bit he's not proud of being a criminal , he's proud of having the honour to challenge and confront tyranny.
Stokely Charmichael said in 1967.
Quote.
There are 30 million of us in the US. For the most part we live in sharply defined sections of the rural black- belt areas and the shanty towns of the South, and more and more in the slums of the Northern and Western industrial cities. With us there is hundreds and thousands of Puerto Ricans, Mexican Americans and American Indians.
American Cities are in essence populated by people of the Third World, while the white middle class flees.
The heart of commercial trade is in these cities - but though we live here we do not control our resources.
We do not control the land, the houses, or the stores. They are owned by whites who live outside the community.
Unquote.
I think some things have changed but statically dual society is little changed after half a century.
Only Gov. spending money it borrows with no intention of ever paying back keeps the US community functioning.
But that money the Gov. is spending is supplied by people much worse off ,working in sweat shop conditions offshore .
Allah says yes He will help , but it is dependant on Israel being shut down.
The Levites were the property of God , the Rabbi murdered them to inherit their position.
That's the problem.
are you retarded or half retarded,,,cuz GOD never said to destroy his own creation,,,man,,,some nutjob muhamad friend wrote that,,,or was it his wife,,,this shows why islam is really evil and against GOD,,,kill kill kill,,,GOD didnt give islam this world,,,GOD didnt instruct islam muslims to kill kill kill everyone not muslim,,,muhamads freinds or wife did,,,cuz if that was the case,,,how come muslims are killing muslims,,,how come islam is split,,,how come?,,it would be a whole diffrent story if you could show everyone one muslim run country that lives in peace,,,but that doesnt exist or ever did,,,you can thank muhamads freinds or wife for that in todays world,,,try living in peace with everyone and see what happens,,,
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40141 Nov 14, 2013
Doctor REALITY wrote:
Amadineajad is evil enough to be the anti-christ, he just isn't smart enough.
You have wrong idea about qualities of Anti Christ, what abut GWB the Great as a qualifier?

He HAS bloods of hundred of thousands of innocent people on his hands.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40142 Nov 14, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

America's War on Islam 2.0

By Stephen Lendman

(Contd.)
Murdoch’s New York Post “seemed committed to getting as many stories wrong about the Boston attack as possible.”

Before an arrest was made, CNN’s breaking news headlined “Sources: Arrest made in bombings case.” Reporter John King erroneously called him “dark-skinned.”
NAACP President Benjamin Todd Jealous responded, saying:

“Our concern is that CNN used an overly broad, unhelpful and potentially racially inflammatory categorization to describe the potential suspect. History teaches us that too often people of color are unfairly targeted in the aftermath of acts of terrorism.”

Post-Boston bombings, media misreporting was deplorable. It didn’t surprise.“Rush to misjudgment” is commonplace. Washington Post editors headlined “In pursuit of terrorists.”

Official reports were accepted as fact. The Tsarnaev brothers were blamed. A Chechen “extremist,”“Al Qaeda” or other “foreign group” connection was suggested.

“Much as some in Washington might wish it, the war against terrorism is not over….The Tszrnaevs….may have intended more mayhem: They were reportedly carrying more bombs when they were cornered Thursday.”

Note: Media misreporting said at least older brother Tamerlan wore an explosives vest. Photos of his body showed him riddled with bullets and shrapnel head to toe. All limbs were intact. He wasn’t blown to pieces.

New York Post editors headlined “The unfinished war,” saying:

“….These have been scary days.(It was) chilling to see how successfully the suspects, Chechen Muslim immigrants, were – not just in allegedly killing people, but in instilling widespread fear, especially in the Northeast.”

“The week served as a painful reminder that this nation remains in an ongoing fight against terror – and that the homeland is still vulnerable.”
“The war on terror isn’t over. Alas, far from it.”

Boston Globe editors headlined “Boston after the bombings: a show of character,” saying:

“(L)aw-enforcement officials and political leaders….put aside turf wars and expressions of egotism to focus on the killers….”

“….Boston’s character needs no further validation. The city is strong, and getting stronger.”

Chicago Tribune editors headlined “Accomplishing….nothing,” saying:

“….Boston bombing suspects (may) have had no motivation more complex than joyful cruelty.”

“This level of preparation, though, suggests that they had some motive more sophisticated than merely marauding through the lives of innocents.”

“The Boston massacre no doubt will help authorities worldwide rethink security preparations for mass events.”

Numerous print and broadcast reports highlighted a Chechen Muslim connection. The New York Times was typical headlining “Boston Attacks Turn Spotlight on Troubled Region of Chechnya,” saying:

rtloder

Since: Nov 12

Sydney, Australia

#40144 Nov 14, 2013
grave digger wrote:
<quoted text>are you retarded or half retarded,,,cuz GOD never said to destroy his own creation,,,man,,,some nutjob muhamad friend wrote that,,,or was it his wife,,,this shows why islam is really evil and against GOD,,,kill kill kill,,,GOD didnt give islam this world,,,GOD didnt instruct islam muslims to kill kill kill everyone not muslim,,,muhamads freinds or wife did,,,cuz if that was the case,,,how come muslims are killing muslims,,,how come islam is split,,,how come?,,it would be a whole diffrent story if you could show everyone one muslim run country that lives in peace,,,but that doesnt exist or ever did,,,you can thank muhamads freinds or wife for that in todays world,,,try living in peace with everyone and see what happens,,,

Everybody is different.
Take two people and you have two sides.
We are the image of Allah and He is everything and the person of everything ,we are the same so we can create in our own way.
As Angels if we are accepted, by being trusted.
Islam is not about forcing itself on the anybody , except them that are born into Islamic community.
You got it all wrong grave digger.
Some Islamic Clerics are selling their personal aspirations as religion , they only can do that because the Wealthy World is wanting to have Jews and Saudi Arabia the same.
So they say Shi'ia is the enemy .
What can you do about that .
?.
Just point it out and hope for the best.
grave digger

Ozark, MO

#40145 Nov 15, 2013
rtloder wrote:
<quoted text>
Everybody is different.
Take two people and you have two sides.
We are the image of Allah and He is everything and the person of everything ,we are the same so we can create in our own way.
As Angels if we are accepted, by being trusted.
Islam is not about forcing itself on the anybody , except them that are born into Islamic community.
You got it all wrong grave digger.
Some Islamic Clerics are selling their personal aspirations as religion , they only can do that because the Wealthy World is wanting to have Jews and Saudi Arabia the same.
So they say Shi'ia is the enemy .
What can you do about that .
?.
Just point it out and hope for the best.
if the muslim will live in peace,,,then the rest of the world wouldnt be scared of islam,,,and then the world can enjoy learning the history of islam,,,or the muslim history,,,but no,,,you invoke fear to the world and destroy christian worship churches,,,until you stop that kind of crap,,,the islam muslim wont ever have peace,,,so what to do,,,live in peace with everyone and everyone will show you peace,,

rtloder

Since: Nov 12

Sydney, Australia

#40147 Nov 15, 2013
grave digger wrote:
<quoted text>if the muslim will live in peace,,,then the rest of the world wouldnt be scared of islam,,,and then the world can enjoy learning the history of islam,,,or the muslim history,,,but no,,,you invoke fear to the world and destroy christian worship churches,,,until you stop that kind of crap,,,the islam muslim wont ever have peace,,,so what to do,,,live in peace with everyone and everyone will show you peace,,

In Syria and Egypt it is only, Cameron, Hoande and Netanyahu destroying Christian Churches and killing , maiming, crippling raping Christians.
Because they pay, arm, and politically support the Brotherhood , al-Qa'eda and the FSA.
NATO want.
All Nations weak and divided so Israel be strong.
Israel is finished.
You support Israel you are finished too.
Libya was even worse .
Not so much Christians but Negroes.
I spit on these vermin dogs.
Obama,Cameron, Hollande, Netanyahu and Erdogen.
May Allah embark every suffering on them imaginable .
There is no place in civilization for NATO.
Jewish grubs every last one.
Still its not for us to judge, it all comes clean in the wash, every one dies alone.
grave digger

Ozark, MO

#40148 Nov 15, 2013
rtloder wrote:
<quoted text>
In Syria and Egypt it is only, Cameron, Hoande and Netanyahu destroying Christian Churches and killing , maiming, crippling raping Christians.
Because they pay, arm, and politically support the Brotherhood , al-Qa'eda and the FSA.
NATO want.
All Nations weak and divided so Israel be strong.
Israel is finished.
You support Israel you are finished too.
Libya was even worse .
Not so much Christians but Negroes.
I spit on these vermin dogs.
Obama,Cameron, Hollande, Netanyahu and Erdogen.
May Allah embark every suffering on them imaginable .
There is no place in civilization for NATO.
Jewish grubs every last one.
Still its not for us to judge, it all comes clean in the wash, every one dies alone.
what?,,,didnt you listen to what the grave digger said?,,,live in peace with everyone,,,and you just said the negroes of africa are vermin dogs?,,,why cuz that was their land and the muslims wanted it?,,,the christians are christians and the muslim dont want them to be christian so destroy the christians?,,,and then you blame isreal for this rampage the muslims are on,,,sorry,,,you muslims started a war that you wont ever win,,,your just making it harder for the future generations of muslims,,,cuz once the world hates a group it takes decades x 1,000 to change the worlds mindset,,,did you ever think that lucifer the devil is in control of the jihad terrorist part of the islam faith,,,cuz the devil wants ruin to all manking,,,sounds just like islam of today,,,the ruin of mankind,,,this is GODS world to decide when it ends not the muslims or islams,,,once again dog spitter negro hater,,,try livig in peace with the rest of the world and see what happens,,,you sure you muslims arnt really nazi's,,,cuz the nazi wanted all the jews dead,,,post a picture of muhamad so the grave digger can see if hitler looked like him,,,
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#40149 Nov 15, 2013
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The Boston Bombs Roused a Monster

An overreaction to the attacks could result in massive, self-important bodies wielding excessive powers and hounding the wrong people

By Patrick Cockburn

April 22, 2013 "Information Clearing House" -"The Independent" - The success or failure from the point of view of the perpetrators of an attack like the bombing of the Boston Marathon depends on the over-reaction of those targeted. The 9/11 attacks succeeded as an act of terror because it led to the US fighting disastrous wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and sanctioning the use of torture and imprisonment without trial. It turned the US into a more authoritarian state in which civil liberties are curtailed or discounted, and spawned an elephantine and costly security apparatus.

It was depressing to see heavily armed Swat teams with assault rifles and body armour debouching from armoured vehicles in Boston as they used to do in Belfast. Curfews, which people in Baghdad and Fallujah have become inured to, suddenly become acceptable in Massachusetts. In contrast to Northern Ireland and Iraq, this is done to the applause of local inhabitants. The reason for Swat teams and curfews is understandable, but measures like these get people cumulatively accustomed to accepting without protest an authoritarian government.

Much of the initial impact of the Boston bombing and the pursuit of Tamerlan and Dzhokar Tsarnaev, will dissipate. Unfolding stories like this swiftly shift from being over-covered to under-covered. Journalists know the feeling of relief and frustration when editors back home decide that the story to which they have been giving wall-to-wall coverage, is old news.

Unfortunately, this often happens at the very moment when the long-term significance of what has happened is becoming clearer. Pundits who have been making embarrassingly premature comments based on too limited evidence might at last have something revealing to say. Instead, they find that the media caravan has moved on and is no longer interested in their views.

An outcome of the bombings will be an enhanced sense of public insecurity, and support for those who claim to be doing something about it. Before the Boston attack there were signs of restiveness in the US at the excessive size of the post-9/11 security bureaucracy at a time of budget cuts.

The FBI, put in charge of investigating domestic terrorism by President Bush, has 103 joint terrorism task forces, supposedly linking local and state police to federal terrorism investigators. As a result of 9/11, the US has the services of the National Counterterrorism Centre, which analyses and collates intelligence information for the Office of the Director National Intelligence. This, in turn, is supposed to coordinate and oversee the work of America's 17 intelligence agencies. Then there is the sterling work of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) which unites the 22 federal departments and agencies that employ 240,000 people.

The creation of a bureaucratic Leviathan like this is more likely to impede than assist the gathering and analysis of intelligence. Too many people do not know what they are doing and there are too many layers of responsibility. Such vast organisations are on an endless quest to justify and expand their own influence and protect themselves
grave digger

Ozark, MO

#40150 Nov 15, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...
The Boston Bombs Roused a Monster
An overreaction to the attacks could result in massive, self-important bodies wielding excessive powers and hounding the wrong people
By Patrick Cockburn
April 22, 2013 "Information Clearing House" -"The Independent" - The success or failure from the point of view of the perpetrators of an attack like the bombing of the Boston Marathon depends on the over-reaction of those targeted. The 9/11 attacks succeeded as an act of terror because it led to the US fighting disastrous wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and sanctioning the use of torture and imprisonment without trial. It turned the US into a more authoritarian state in which civil liberties are curtailed or discounted, and spawned an elephantine and costly security apparatus.
It was depressing to see heavily armed Swat teams with assault rifles and body armour debouching from armoured vehicles in Boston as they used to do in Belfast. Curfews, which people in Baghdad and Fallujah have become inured to, suddenly become acceptable in Massachusetts. In contrast to Northern Ireland and Iraq, this is done to the applause of local inhabitants. The reason for Swat teams and curfews is understandable, but measures like these get people cumulatively accustomed to accepting without protest an authoritarian government.
Much of the initial impact of the Boston bombing and the pursuit of Tamerlan and Dzhokar Tsarnaev, will dissipate. Unfolding stories like this swiftly shift from being over-covered to under-covered. Journalists know the feeling of relief and frustration when editors back home decide that the story to which they have been giving wall-to-wall coverage, is old news.
Unfortunately, this often happens at the very moment when the long-term significance of what has happened is becoming clearer. Pundits who have been making embarrassingly premature comments based on too limited evidence might at last have something revealing to say. Instead, they find that the media caravan has moved on and is no longer interested in their views.
An outcome of the bombings will be an enhanced sense of public insecurity, and support for those who claim to be doing something about it. Before the Boston attack there were signs of restiveness in the US at the excessive size of the post-9/11 security bureaucracy at a time of budget cuts.
The FBI, put in charge of investigating domestic terrorism by President Bush, has 103 joint terrorism task forces, supposedly linking local and state police to federal terrorism investigators. As a result of 9/11, the US has the services of the National Counterterrorism Centre, which analyses and collates intelligence information for the Office of the Director National Intelligence. This, in turn, is supposed to coordinate and oversee the work of America's 17 intelligence agencies. Then there is the sterling work of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) which unites the 22 federal departments and agencies that employ 240,000 people.
The creation of a bureaucratic Leviathan like this is more likely to impede than assist the gathering and analysis of intelligence. Too many people do not know what they are doing and there are too many layers of responsibility. Such vast organisations are on an endless quest to justify and expand their own influence and protect themselves
they hunted them scumbag muslim brothers down to protect the people from these murdering animals,,,what cowerds to blow up innocent people,,,then the younger murdering muslim killed his older brother himself with his vehicle,,,what an idiot,,,the reason the one murderer is dead and the other locked up like an animal for life is cuz of islam pure and simple,,,and their mother the muslim whore should be in prison also,,,
grave digger

Ozark, MO

#40151 Nov 15, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
You have wrong idea about qualities of Anti Christ, what abut GWB the Great as a qualifier?
He HAS bloods of hundred of thousands of innocent people on his hands.
sorry muslim muq,,,hundred of thousands is the wrong number,,,bush didnt kill anyone except murdering muslims,,,your islam groups have all the blood on their hands,,,and the qualities of the anti christ was muhamad,,,killed raped and destroyed and then fools his wife and freinds to keep the following of murder rape and destruction,,,and the proof,,,what beleif or peoples try and do live in peace?,,,every beleif and peoples except the islam muslim peoples,,,you cant change the facts,,,you cant argue or blame the facts on anyone but yourselves,,,try living in peace and see what happens,,,then if you rid the earth of the jews,,,then what peoples you going after next?,,,the christians?,,,then who?,,,the atheist?,,,then who?,,,the buda beleivers?,,,then who?,,,the crippled and old within the muslim world?,,,then who?,,,aint nobody left or will you turn on the animals cuz their to stupid to bow down to islam?,,,

rtloder

Since: Nov 12

Sydney, Australia

#40152 Nov 15, 2013
grave digger wrote:
<quoted text>what?,,,didnt you listen to what the grave digger said?,,,live in peace with everyone,,,and you just said the negroes of africa are vermin dogs?,,,why cuz that was their land and the muslims wanted it?,,,the christians are christians and the muslim dont want them to be christian so destroy the christians?,,,and then you blame isreal for this rampage the muslims are on,,,sorry,,,you muslims started a war that you wont ever win,,,your just making it harder for the future generations of muslims,,,cuz once the world hates a group it takes decades x 1,000 to change the worlds mindset,,,did you ever think that lucifer the devil is in control of the jihad terrorist part of the islam faith,,,cuz the devil wants ruin to all manking,,,sounds just like islam of today,,,the ruin of mankind,,,this is GODS world to decide when it ends not the muslims or islams,,,once again dog spitter negro hater,,,try livig in peace with the rest of the world and see what happens,,,you sure you muslims arnt really nazi's,,,cuz the nazi wanted all the jews dead,,,post a picture of muhamad so the grave digger can see if hitler looked like him,,,

I did listen grave digger , but it went in one ear and out the other .
I got a feeling you really don't like this thread , it used to be better when that stupid w wman uk was here .
And we had a real poet before you come.
Tell you what , grave digger , have a stab at working out why you don't like this thread.
Then tell us in your next communication.
And please don't lie and say that you do.
I know you don't , if you did what you report would not go in one ear and out the other.
Agreed.?.

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