Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

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TEHRAN, Iran- Iran's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad yesterday said the world would witness the destruction of Israel soon, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported.

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MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#38142 Mar 4, 2013
04. Jesus "knew" why he was dieing:

Since I have no knowledge to go inside the heart and brain to find out what he knew, let it suffice that Jesus did not tell Matthew, Mark and Luke about it.

There is some hint of it in the Gospel of John.

But it was to Paul that Jesus opened his full heart and told him, what he did not tell any one else.

Again it comes to what Paul says why jesus died.

05. Paul was taught by Gamaliel:

This is again based on Paul's own claim and now it seems you have started giving too much importance to Gamaleil.

No one knows what he knew and what he taught and what he told to Paul.

I think every thing in Christianity (in its earliest days) was based on good will and assumptions.

May be Devil had taken his days off in "those blessed days"!!

05. My thoughts and my arguments are goofy:

You might think so, because there is no limitation on any one's thinking.

But to accept St. Paul as "True and Authentic" Apostle of jesus and start believing in his every statement and every teaching as "coming straight from Jesus" is real goofy thing, if you ask me.

And poor jesus has to share all the blame for mistakes and lies and innovations of Paul!!

This is real goofy thing!!
Gary

Columbus, OH

#38143 Mar 4, 2013
MUQ wrote:
04. Jesus "knew" why he was dieing:
Since I have no knowledge to go inside the heart and brain to find out what he knew, let it suffice that Jesus did not tell Matthew, Mark and Luke about it.
There is some hint of it in the Gospel of John.
But it was to Paul that Jesus opened his full heart and told him, what he did not tell any one else.
Again it comes to what Paul says why jesus died.
05. Paul was taught by Gamaliel:
This is again based on Paul's own claim and now it seems you have started giving too much importance to Gamaleil.
No one knows what he knew and what he taught and what he told to Paul.
I think every thing in Christianity (in its earliest days) was based on good will and assumptions.
May be Devil had taken his days off in "those blessed days"!!
05. My thoughts and my arguments are goofy:
You might think so, because there is no limitation on any one's thinking.
But to accept St. Paul as "True and Authentic" Apostle of jesus and start believing in his every statement and every teaching as "coming straight from Jesus" is real goofy thing, if you ask me.
And poor jesus has to share all the blame for mistakes and lies and innovations of Paul!!
This is real goofy thing!!
Good luck to you, Muq.

“bless the USA”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#38144 Mar 4, 2013
Gary wrote:
<quoted text> Actually, Muq, both Paul and Jesus "met" on the road to Damascus . You should be familiar with that account. Paul was temporarily blinded and instructed togo to a cerain building on a certain street in Damascus. God directed the writing of the gospels: Matthew ,Mark, Luke, and John as well as each book of the Bible. Each of those Gospels were intended for different audiences. Jesus knew exactly why he died on the cross for everyone's sins. Paul was just a mere mortal who was directed by God once Gamaliel taught him. Once again, your thoughts are totally goofy and false.
Gary, you have made a good effort at educating Muq, but you might as well be talking to a fire hydrant. While I respect your efforts, you have made some wide swings that make me wonder what denomination you claim. The first was your earlier claim that Catholicism was not considered a Christian religion, the kind of statement one hears up in the hills of Appalachia. What is your basis for the claim? The second seems to give more credit to Gamaliel than I can document: can you provide a scholarly reference to his having extensively tutored Paul? Your claim that our media is controlled by Zionists is false, and confuses being a Jew with being a Zionist as well. And, as I mentioned earlier, your intense hatred of Jews is hardly Christian and diminishes your credibility in my eyes. As for me, send all the Jews to the USA!
jim

United States

#38145 Mar 4, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
And Who made Jesus the part of Godhead?
jesus never said that he was part of Godhead.
Do you mean to say that Paul knew more than what Jesus knew?
And if Jesus knows every thing, then he knows how Jews treated him the first time, why should they treat him differently the second time.
I think that you people have been totally brain washed by these Jews. You are brainwashed to believe that they are a Super Race and no one can over power them.
While in reality they never held any much power in the world in their entire 4000 years old history. Palestine is a tiny part of the world and never was centre of International politics. It was only a local affair, which Bible has presented as "world changing events".
I like your "best wishes" for Islam that it would "end" before second coming of Jesus.
is that the reason for US and Europe attacking Iraq, Afghanistan , Pakistan , Libya, Iran and Syria and planning to attack other Muslim countries?
Thanks for baring your real intentions!!
Wish my boy, wish away, the same was the dream of those Crusaders 1000 years back, and what was the result?
Should I tell you?
I can see you really never securiosly study the bible, next time take your time, you really missed it, Jesus said before abraham was I AM, what the root meaning of just those Words, theres many many more like these, G-d is known by many names in the bible,(THE GREAT I AM)
jim

Oklahoma City, OK

#38146 Mar 4, 2013
w wman uk wrote:
<quoted text>Your coments show no education.
Id rather be uneducated an full of jesus, than be lost and go to hell
jim

United States

#38147 Mar 4, 2013
READ THE BOOK OF JOHN YOU Doubters really
jim

Oklahoma City, OK

#38148 Mar 4, 2013
MUQ wrote:
04. Jesus "knew" why he was dieing:
Since I have no knowledge to go inside the heart and brain to find out what he knew, let it suffice that Jesus did not tell Matthew, Mark and Luke about it.
There is some hint of it in the Gospel of John.
But it was to Paul that Jesus opened his full heart and told him, what he did not tell any one else.
Again it comes to what Paul says why jesus died.
05. Paul was taught by Gamaliel:
This is again based on Paul's own claim and now it seems you have started giving too much importance to Gamaleil.
No one knows what he knew and what he taught and what he told to Paul.
I think every thing in Christianity (in its earliest days) was based on good will and assumptions.
May be Devil had taken his days off in "those blessed days"!!
05. My thoughts and my arguments are goofy:
You might think so, because there is no limitation on any one's thinking.
But to accept St. Paul as "True and Authentic" Apostle of jesus and start believing in his every statement and every teaching as "coming straight from Jesus" is real goofy thing, if you ask me.
And poor jesus has to share all the blame for mistakes and lies and innovations of Paul!!
This is real goofy thing!!
you have more than likely have Cancer of the Brain, or you may very Stupid, if I were you I would go see a brain surgeon, but I really Doubt that he would find one there, monkeys have a higher I.Q. than you.
The Advocate

Mexico, Mexico

#38149 Mar 4, 2013
jim wrote:
<quoted text> you have more than likely have Cancer of the Brain, or you may very Stupid, if I were you I would go see a brain surgeon, but I really Doubt that he would find one there, monkeys have a higher I.Q. than you.
And both of you are just sliding into name calling rather than actually debating. Stay classy, folks!
Gary

Columbus, OH

#38150 Mar 4, 2013
Kenhunt wrote:
<quoted text>
Gary, you have made a good effort at educating Muq, but you might as well be talking to a fire hydrant. While I respect your efforts, you have made some wide swings that make me wonder what denomination you claim. The first was your earlier claim that Catholicism was not considered a Christian religion, the kind of statement one hears up in the hills of Appalachia. What is your basis for the claim? The second seems to give more credit to Gamaliel than I can document: can you provide a scholarly reference to his having extensively tutored Paul? Your claim that our media is controlled by Zionists is false, and confuses being a Jew with being a Zionist as well. And, as I mentioned earlier, your intense hatred of Jews is hardly Christian and diminishes your credibility in my eyes. As for me, send all the Jews to the SA!
First of all. I have never made a claim that our media is controlled by Jewish folks. I have always been supportive of the state of Israel . I really believe you have me confused with another contributir here. As far as Gamaliel is concerned, I have been emphasizing to Muq that Paul is just a mere mortal compared to Jesus. But you like you say. I might as well be talking to a fire hydrant.
Gary

Columbus, OH

#38151 Mar 4, 2013
Kenhunt wrote:
<quoted text>
Gary, you have made a good effort at educating Muq, but you might as well be talking to a fire hydrant. While I respect your efforts, you have made some wide swings that make me wonder what denomination you claim. The first was your earlier claim that Catholicism was not considered a Christian religion, the kind of statement one hears up in the hills of Appalachia. What is your basis for the claim? The second seems to give more credit to Gamaliel than I can document: can you provide a scholarly reference to his having extensively tutored Paul? Your claim that our media is controlled by Zionists is false, and confuses being a Jew with being a Zionist as well. And, as I mentioned earlier, your intense hatred of Jews is hardly Christian and diminishes your credibility in my eyes. As for me, send all the Jews to the USA!
as far as Catholicism is concerned, my comments were focusing on the office of the pope and stressing that he is more of a "scholar" rather than a prophet like many see him. Another aspect of Catholicism I do not care for is their adulation of Mary. Actually, this more of a statement you here in the Protestant ranks rather than confined to Appalachia. Your part of the country has quite a few Baptists and Southern Baptists if I am correct,Ken.
Gary

Columbus, OH

#38152 Mar 4, 2013
Kenhunt wrote:
<quoted text>
Gary, you have made a good effort at educating Muq, but you might as well be talking to a fire hydrant. While I respect your efforts, you have made some wide swings that make me wonder what denomination you claim. The first was your earlier claim that Catholicism was not considered a Christian religion, the kind of statement one hears up in the hills of Appalachia. What is your basis for the claim? The second seems to give more credit to Gamaliel than I can document: can you provide a scholarly reference to his having extensively tutored Paul? Your claim that our media is controlled by Zionists is false, and confuses being a Jew with being a Zionist as well. And, as I mentioned earlier, your intense hatred of Jews is hardly Christian and diminishes your credibility in my eyes. As for me, send all the Jews to the USA!
I would like you to show me where I said our media is controlled by Zionists. Otherwise, I believe your statement about me is false.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#38153 Mar 4, 2013
jim wrote:
READ THE BOOK OF JOHN YOU Doubters really
And "Which" John wrote that book?

John the Apostle of Jesus?

Or some other named John whom no one really knows?

Ask Pope if you do not know?
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#38154 Mar 4, 2013
The Advocate wrote:
<quoted text>
And both of you are just sliding into name calling rather than actually debating. Stay classy, folks!
Thanks for you "fair comment". These people have never studied their own bible.

They just remember a few "chosen verses" and drink in what is told to them by their priests and preachers.

And that deficiency they cover up by calling names and insulting their correspondences.

And when I hear these people talking like that, It seems to me that the debate is over.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#38155 Mar 4, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

How US Drones Forge as Many Foes as They Kill

World View: The enhanced use of unmanned attack planes is at the heart of American foreign policy

By Patrick Cockburn

October 29, 2012 "The Independent" -- Drones or their equivalent have long attracted political and military leaders dreaming of the surgical removal of their enemies. In 1812, the governor of Moscow, Count Rostopchin, devised a plan to get a hot-air balloon to hover over the French lines at Borodino and drop an explosive device on Napoleon. The source for this is the memoirs of the French writer, traveller and politician Chateaubriand and I have not read it anywhere else, but the story illustrates how, from the first moment man took to the air, he has seen it as a means of assassination.

President Barack Obama thinks much the same way as Rostopchin did 200 years ago. The enhanced and secret use of unmanned drones is one of the most striking features of his foreign policy. During his presidency they have been used against Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Afghanistan, Libya and Iraq. In Pakistan alone some 337 CIA strikes have killed 1,908 to 3,225 people since 2004, according to the Washington-based New America Foundation. Of these, between 1,618 and 2,769 are said to have been militants.

The precision of the numbers, combined with the great disparity between the highest and lowest figures, will send a chill through anybody who has examined US air attacks in Iraq and Afghanistan. Official mendacity about civilians killed has been a feature of every air war. Within days of the fall of the Taliban in 2001, the US military was trying to explain away why it had blown up Afghan wedding parties that it claimed were convoys of "terrorists".

What makes Obama's drone wars so important is that they are right at the centre of foreign policy in South Asia, the Middle East and North Africa. Drones were used by George W Bush between 2004 and 2008 on a smaller scale, but their mass use since is not just the fruit of technical developments or tactical convenience.

One of the most important changes in world politics over the past decade is that the US has failed to win two wars, one in Iraq, the other in Afghanistan, despite deploying large and vastly expensive land armies. Equally telling, these failures were against relatively puny forces of guerrillas. For American hardliners and neo-liberals these wars were designed to lay the ghosts of Vietnam and Somalia, enabling the open use of US military might, but they turned out to be Vietnam and Somalia revisited. American popular and establishment support for military intervention abroad using ground troops is at a low ebb.

The use of unmanned drones seems to avoid these problems. First of all there are no direct and immediate American casualties. The attacks also sound as if they are carrying the fight to the enemy in the shape of al-Qa'ida, with its top 20 operatives in north-west Pakistan being regularly eliminated – only to be mysteriously replaced by another top 20 operatives. Drone strikes have been difficult for the Republicans to criticise during the presidential campaign without opening themselves up to charges that they are soft on terrorism. In one of the few sensible remarks on foreign policy in the presidential debates, Mitt Romney said "we can't kill our way out of this", but later added that this did not mean he was anti-drone.
Gary

Columbus, OH

#38156 Mar 4, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
And "Which" John wrote that book?
John the Apostle of Jesus?
Or some other named John whom no one really knows?
Ask Pope if you do not know?
John the Apostle of Jesus
The Advocate

Mexico, Mexico

#38157 Mar 4, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for you "fair comment". These people have never studied their own bible.
They just remember a few "chosen verses" and drink in what is told to them by their priests and preachers.
And that deficiency they cover up by calling names and insulting their correspondences.
And when I hear these people talking like that, It seems to me that the debate is over.
Thank you, but this isn't a defense of anyone; I'm tired of seeing this imbecilic and infantile name calling and racism and general accusations; you all call yourself "knowledgeable adults," and yet no one bothers to get over their prejudice and actually frickin' research something for a change.

“bless the USA”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#38158 Mar 4, 2013
Gary wrote:
<quoted text> First of all. I have never made a claim that our media is controlled by Jewish folks. I have always been supportive of the state of Israel . I really believe you have me confused with another contributir here. As far as Gamaliel is concerned, I have been emphasizing to Muq that Paul is just a mere mortal compared to Jesus. But you like you say. I might as well be talking to a fire hydrant.
. I confused you and Gray. Oops. You did say Gamaliel tutored Paul, but I can find little support for that...

“bless the USA”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#38160 Mar 4, 2013
Gary wrote:
<quoted text> as far as Catholicism is concerned, my comments were focusing on the office of the pope and stressing that he is more of a "scholar" rather than a prophet like many see him. Another aspect of Catholicism I do not care for is their adulation of Mary. Actually, this more of a statement you here in the Protestant ranks rather than confined to Appalachia. Your part of the country has quite a few Baptists and Southern Baptists if I am correct,Ken.
I know of NO claim that the Pope is by definition a prophet. Where did you get that?

Mary is not worshipped by Catholics. That is a common misconception.

You did say Catholicism is not Christian, yes? Of course it is.
Gary

Columbus, OH

#38161 Mar 4, 2013
Kenhunt wrote:
<quoted text>
I know of NO claim that the Pope is by definition a prophet. Where did you get that?
Mary is not worshipped by Catholics. That is a common misconception.
You did say Catholicism is not Christian, yes? Of course it is.
I get the impression from some of the non-Christian folks that contribute here really don't understand the different denominations of Christianity and how differently they interpret the Bible and their perceptions of significance of the Pope.
I have always been a strong supporter of Israel even though I did not care too much dealing with their diplomatic personnel when I lived in Washington,D.C. I have Jewish friends,though as well as Muslim folks who are from Nablus in the West Bank.
Yes, I did say Roman Catholics are not Christians and I stand by it . Hitler grew up as a Catholic and had some unknown relation with them for years. Now that's something to "research" ! I believe it was the Catholics who sponsored the Crusades if I am correct. Have you found where I said the media is controlled by Jews and that I was against Jewry in general ? I don't believe you will because I did not say that. I'm here to defend them !
The Advocate

Mexico, Mexico

#38162 Mar 4, 2013
Kenhunt wrote:
<quoted text>
I know of NO claim that the Pope is by definition a prophet. Where did you get that?
Mary is not worshipped by Catholics. That is a common misconception.
You did say Catholicism is not Christian, yes? Of course it is.
Mary is venerated by Catholics in several different incarnations, each version of Mary a patron saint of a Catholic majority nation. Here she's La Vírgen de Guadalupe, in Peru Nuestra Señora de la Merced and in the Phillipines Nuestra Señora de Peñafrancia or "Ina."

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